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4 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

Again don't think the government will impose this, but private industry may.

 

Private industry polices cannot override (what is meant to be) UK law.

 

A firm can say that "You MUST have a vaccine" but if that is not (supposed) law then it means nothing and the firm can be taken to task.

 

It is like a firm saying "Our policy is to allow the use of slave labor and class 1 drugs" It doesn't override what is meant to be law.

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Just been to my local shop and the guy who works there was wearing a mask! He wasn't wearing one this morning and hasn't worn one since March! I walked in and laughed at him! 

 

"What on earth are you doing you stupid twat?" 

"Tier 4 now, gotta wear a mask."

"Why now? You didn't wear a mask before."

He did, from what I could see of his face, look a bit embarrassed! The poor sod has succumbed to the propaganda after all this time.

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3 hours ago, SimonTV said:

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Ivermectin for parasite control?  Doxycycline is an antibiotic that penetrates the cell wall and kills off the bacteria from within rather than the other way of attacking from outside.  Kills off micoplasma.  Zinc known to reduce the length of a cold but can also interfere with other drugs... basic analysis....just trying to figure out what it will do re: the elusive covid

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26 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

Everyone is seriously pissed off with these restrictions and now Christmas has been cancelled in some areas. My take, which is very different to others in here, is that the vaccine should not be public enemy no. 1. The vaccine is the one thing that is going to put a stop to this in the near future. I know about problem reaction solution. Don't think it applies here. The theories about what the plan is for this vaccine just don't hold up to scrutiny. The trials were done and now around 350,000 people have had take it. When do you expect the adverse reactions to start? (by adverse reactions I mean anything above the statistically norm). After 1 million? 5 million? There will be no significant adverse reactions. 

 

Next couple of months will be tough. And we need to look after our mental health. Obsessing over evil vaccines isn't going to help you and you will see in 3-4 months, the anxiety was not warranted. Get outside, take up a hobby, call a friend. Stay safe.

 

So what is public enemy no. 1 then if not the vaccine?

 

That is also a very bold claim about 'no significant adverse reactions', time will tell I guess whether you are right or not.

 

I certainly won't be queuing up to 'take the jab', not for a 'deadly virus' that has a 98% survival rate. I'll take my chances in the real world, not in the fake reality being presented in the media.

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2 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

So what is public enemy no. 1 then if not the vaccine?

 

That is also a very bold claim about 'no significant adverse reactions', time will tell I guess whether you are right or not.

 

I certainly won't be queuing up to 'take the jab', not for a 'deadly virus' that has a 98% survival rate. I'll take my chances in the real world, not in the fake reality being presented in the media.

 

It's a shill....been here a week.....look at its posts.

Please get rid of.

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2 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

So what is public enemy no. 1 then if not the vaccine?

 

That is also a very bold claim about 'no significant adverse reactions', time will tell I guess whether you are right or not.

 

I certainly won't be queuing up to 'take the jab', not for a 'deadly virus' that has a 98% survival rate. I'll take my chances in the real world, not in the fake reality being presented in the media.

 

 

Exactly, and its not like they are going to advertise the fact that there are reactions. Just simply say the person suffers allergies or reacts to pain etc etc.... same old bullshit that the masses will eat faster than their Christmas turkey ( if they're allowed to have any.)

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Israel leading the way with the vaccine passports....no doubt all monitored by AI...

Health chief confirms ‘green passport’ for those who get vaccinated

Health Ministry Director-General Chezy Levy confirms widespread reports that Israel will issue a “green passport” for Israelis who get two doses of the coronavirus vaccine.

Speaking with Channel 12, Levy says the document will allow its carriers not to be quarantined and to enter restaurants, culture events and other public gatherings.

Levy adds that this will lead to a form of international card that would presumably allow global travel for those who are vaccinated.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/health-chief-confirms-green-passport-for-those-who-get-vaccinated/

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

 

I have been told to be 'nice' and so just a question.

 

Do you know anything about vaccines?

Have you researched the history of vaccines?

 

And, as this is NOT a vaccine by definition, what do you know about this injection that makes you happy to take it?

 

Yes, I know a fair bit about virology and vaccines. Not an expert by any strengh. But more importantly I work with people that are experts and work on viruses, and have worked on sar-cov-2. And I trust them. So when you hear people say you can't isolate a virus... well, it's just false at the end of the day.

 

It is a vaccine. The argument that it isn't is pure semantics and disingenuous.

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There are now 4 tiers. 

 

1 - Medium

2 - High

3 - Very High

4  - Lockdown

 

People are begging to be put into tier 2 as if it is something good.

 

'Would you rather be in tier 2 or 3?' is something which I get asked. That's like saying Would you rather be kicked in the face or kicked in the bollocks? 

 

There are no low tiers. No hope. People need to stop accepting this bull sh*t 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

 

Yes, I know a fair bit about virology and vaccines. Not an expert by any strengh. But more importantly I work with people that are experts and work on viruses, and have worked on sar-cov-2. And I trust them. So when you hear people say you can't isolate a virus... well, it's just false at the end of the day.

 

It is a vaccine. The argument that it isn't is pure semantics and disingenuous.

 

So you trust the people you work with are telling you the whole truth?

 

Are you saying that it is impossible to isolate a virus? Have you seen any evidence of a virus being isolated?

 

If a virus hasn't / cannot be isolated, then how can any vaccine be developed to act against it?

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37 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

The big question is where is the evidence-based scientific data to back up these claims of a 'new variant'?

 

At the moment it all just seems to exist on someone's say so.

 

It's not 'more deadly', but is 'more contagious'. On what basis?

 

Has this new 'variant' been isolated and purified?

 

Of course, any 'real journalists' who would dare to ask questions like this won't be allowed anywhere near any press conferences.

 

Well, apparently no one is looking at the scientific data except Johnson and his circle.  This is not even going to a vote.  It's officially a dictatorship move.

 

No10 has indicated that the measures will come into effect without a vote in Parliament because of the 'incredibly fast moving' events, and there are 'no plans' to recall MPs.

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10 minutes ago, vinny79 said:

when do we riot?

 

Protesters are out there today in London...but have been 'dispersed'.  Basically demonizing them and blaming them for the lockdowns. Unless people deal with the oppression they will keep oppressing. I think this is what the bastards want...civil war. That way they have the weaponry, tanks and tazers plus the sectioning card. The people have no weapons ( they make sure of that) But people have numbers...and numbers matter. Problem is do they have balls.

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7 minutes ago, Noctua said:

 

 

Well, apparently no one is looking at the scientific data except Johnson and his circle.  This is not even going to a vote.  It's officially a dictatorship move.

 

No10 has indicated that the measures will come into effect without a vote in Parliament because of the 'incredibly fast moving' events, and there are 'no plans' to recall MPs.

 

But they are only ever looking at one side of the scientific data, that's always been the problem.

 

And yes, this is a dictatorship move, but this has been the case over the last few months here in the UK, because there is NO opposition in Parliament, not while we have the 'opposition' Labour party singing from the same hymn sheet and calling the shots equally.

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24 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

 

Yes, I know a fair bit about virology and vaccines. Not an expert by any strengh. But more importantly I work with people that are experts and work on viruses, and have worked on sar-cov-2. And I trust them. So when you hear people say you can't isolate a virus... well, it's just false at the end of the day.

 

It is a vaccine. The argument that it isn't is pure semantics and disingenuous.

Oh please give it a fucking rest honestly.

 

Everyone knows what you're about, trying to sow seeds of doubt in people who know better than to trust a complete shill.

 

I hope when the communist dictatorship drags you out of your house that you get discarded by your masters like the shit stained toilet paper that you are.

 

Was gonna say you're a tampon but at least tampons are useful...

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7 year old daughter went to spec savers for an eye test last week. Usual bullshit invented prescription for money making. Insisted she wear a mas k as it was company policy. Meant to get glasses next week sometime.

only found out about the mask insistence this morning from my lady.

So I rang them up this morning and calmly explained to them that is our household policy to tell you to fuck off. Keep your glasses.

Sorry about bullshit lockdown changes guys. Fortunately they don’t effect me at all, but I know for a lot of you not seeing loved ones at any time of year is a bag of shite.

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5 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

7 year old daughter went to spec savers for an eye test last week. Usual bullshit invented prescription for money making. Insisted she wear a mas k as it was company policy. Meant to get glasses next week sometime.

only found out about the mask insistence this morning from my lady.

So I rang them up this morning and calmly explained to them that is our household policy to tell you to fuck off. Keep your glasses.

Sorry about bullshit lockdown changes guys. Fortunately they don’t effect me at all, but I know for a lot of you not seeing loved ones at any time of year is a bag of shite.

For sure they're in cahoots with it all.

I worked for them briefly (worst experience of my life. Awful, awful staff. No training and expected to do retinal photography and other pre examination tests.)

I have never been so boggled!

 

Anyway, when I did eventually get my training before I decided to leave, they said on the website  "Welcome to the green blood family!"

Wtf is that supposed to mean?! 

Sorry - off topic, but it was good to hear someone telling them where to shove their crap :D 

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