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the reason icke isn't allowed to speak on mainstream media is because hes saying there is no virus and that is beyond the pale for the mainstream media

 

the people they talk to like dr yeadon and prof heneghan are saying there is a virus but that the response to it is disproportionate to the threat posed

 

personally i would like to see some of those heavy hitters, from the field of science, explore the possibility that the flu vaccine is harming people through 'molecular mimicry' and then when they fall ill it is being called 'covid 19'

 

the problem with the current approach of the doctors is that they are saying the death figures don't support the claim of a pandemic. this then becomes very dangerous because if there suddenly IS an uptick in deaths for example due to adverse reactions to the covid jab the government will simply point to that as proof of a deadly third wave of a novel virus and the good doctors will find that their argument has gone down the swanny

 

davids case will still stand however (as  will mine)

 

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So here we are. They are at it again! You can be with friends and family over Christmas but not in London.

What is Tier 4? Will they ever keep on increasing the number of tears in the future?

What is the difference between Tier 4 and a lockdown?

 

 

 

Q: (Boris) How to contain the new variant Covid strain?

A: Ignore? We can't keep up with this. Just give it a rest.

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5 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

The mask manufacturers are raking it in, especially with the disposable masks that are really only good for a couple of hours before they need to be replaced. Even some of the reusable 'washable' masks are only apparently designed to last 30 to 50 washes.

 

It is said that over 100 million disposable masks are used in the UK alone each week!

 

I have read what is allowed to be seen regarding disposable mask use over the coming years (I am not spending $3000 on an 80 page report and there are many reports all in the £1000's to buy) and the masks are here for sometime.

After which either they are not needed, become non disposable or the population shrinks?

 

Stuff like this (but there are many selling this report)

 

Disposable Face Mask Market Size, Share & Trends Analysis Report By Product (Protective, Dust, Non-woven), By Application (Industrial, Personal), By Distribution Channel, And Segment Forecasts, 2020 - 2027

 

Report Overview

The global disposable face mask market size exceeded a value of USD 74.90 billion in Q1 of 2020 and is expected to grow at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 53.0% from 2020 to 2027. The unprecedented spread of coronavirus worldwide, most notably in Europe and North America, is driving the demand for disposable face masks. Disposable face covers are extensively used in the healthcare sector. The proliferating OPD sessions and surgeries on a daily basis across the globe are anticipated to drive product demand within the healthcare sector. The function of disposable face masks is to reduce or eliminate the chances of being affected by potential environmental contaminants.  Disposable face covers are typically made from non-woven fabric and are usually available in a multi-layer (two- or three-layer) form.

 

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and on it goes

 

https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/disposable-face-masks-market

 

As said, it seems to be the same report being sold for different amounts by different websites but all in the thousands.

 

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5 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

Downing St Briefing chart for areas with a higher infection rate, blamed on the VUI variant (purple).

 

To my view it looks like it is coming in from the sea.

 

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https://www.earth.com/news/godzilla-evolved-faster/

 

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Godzilla has evolved 30 times faster than any other animal on Earth

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By Kay Vandette

Earth.com staff writer

 

Godzilla has evolved 30 times faster than any other animal on Earth. Ever since their humble beginnings on the silver screen,

 

(Sub Ed - Except Covid19......oops, viruses aren't animals)

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18 minutes ago, Odie Hatzcats said:

It is said that over 100 million disposable masks are used in the UK alone each week!

 

I have read what is allowed to be seen regarding disposable mask use over the coming years (I am not spending $3000 on an 80 page report and there are many reports all in the £1000's to buy) and the masks are here for sometime.

After which either they are not needed, become non disposable or the population shrinks?

 

Wow, so people are making money just from selling 'reports'? 😷

 

As I've said here before, the company I work for sells on eBay, and we used to get numerous 'spam' emails from multitudes of Chinese manufacturers offering us products. Just as the Chinese were coming out of their own lockdown earlier this year, we started getting loads of these junk mails from several Chinese factories offering these disposable non-surgical masks that are now ubiquitous.

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing; instead of binning them all, I wish I'd kept a few for 'future posterity' so you could all understand how little these cost, and just how quick and ready these Chinese companies were to start mass producing them. Some of the wording used was quite interesting to read, but I can't remember specific details now, though it did raise suspicions of how long this was all going to last and gave me an idea of what was to be expected in the near future...

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9 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

Downing St Briefing chart for areas with a higher infection rate, blamed on the VUI variant (purple).

 

To my view it looks like it is coming in from the sea.

 

D3787E07-297C-4202-A96C-1632AD1D62EC.jpeg

 

Hmm, south-east England. Isn't that where all the recent 'arrivals' from France have been landing by dinghy?

 

Very strange about south Wales.

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35 minutes ago, BridgeBuilder said:

So here we are. They are at it again! You can be with friends and family over Christmas but not in London.

What is Tier 4? Will they ever keep on increasing the number of tears in the future?

What is the difference between Tier 4 and a lockdown?

 

 

 

Q: (Boris) How to contain the new variant Covid strain?

A: Ignore? We can't keep up with this. Just give it a rest.

 

 

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Tier 3 is the dark mark

 

Tier 4 the wiper.

 

Lockdown - The Unsolved Crime!

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LOL ... Good ole Tom Cruise knows it's all BS and yet here he is throwing his weight around against the lowly 'common man' aka people that believe in GOD. Enjoy your power now Tom, the ending has already been written ! 

 

Special thanks to this plan-demic and forum for helping red pill more people than ever before ! #learntherisk.org

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Everyone is seriously pissed off with these restrictions and now Christmas has been cancelled in some areas. My take, which is very different to others in here, is that the vaccine should not be public enemy no. 1. The vaccine is the one thing that is going to put a stop to this in the near future. I know about problem reaction solution. Don't think it applies here. The theories about what the plan is for this vaccine just don't hold up to scrutiny. The trials were done and now around 350,000 people have had take it. When do you expect the adverse reactions to start? (by adverse reactions I mean anything above the statistically norm). After 1 million? 5 million? There will be no significant adverse reactions. 

 

Next couple of months will be tough. And we need to look after our mental health. Obsessing over evil vaccines isn't going to help you and you will see in 3-4 months, the anxiety was not warranted. Get outside, take up a hobby, call a friend. Stay safe.

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10 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Wow, so people are making money just from selling 'reports'?

 

Oh yes. Where do you think all these 'managers' in firms get 'their' ideas oaeemqeo.gif.801c3866b9553a33ba7892cf16fef712.gif

 

11 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

so you could all understand how little these cost

 

They are cheap aren't they.

The first result on Alibaba is:

 

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7 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

Everyone is seriously pissed off with these restrictions and now Christmas has been cancelled in some areas. My take, which is very different to others in here, is that the vaccine should not be public enemy no. 1. The vaccine is the one thing that is going to put a stop to this in the near future. I know about problem reaction solution. Don't think it applies here. The theories about what the plan is for this vaccine just don't hold up to scrutiny. The trials were done and now around 350,000 people have had take it. When do you expect the adverse reactions to start? (by adverse reactions I mean anything above the statistically norm). After 1 million? 5 million? There will be no significant adverse reactions. 

 

Next couple of months will be tough. And we need to look after our mental health. Obsessing over evil vaccines isn't going to help you and you will see in 3-4 months, the anxiety was not warranted. Get outside, take up a hobby, call a friend. Stay safe.

 

Where would you stand on mandatory vaccination/vaccine passports? 

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4 minutes ago, Free_your_mind said:

The vaccine is the one thing that is going to put a stop to this in the near future.

 

I have been told to be 'nice' and so just a question.

 

Do you know anything about vaccines?

Have you researched the history of vaccines?

 

And, as this is NOT a vaccine by definition, what do you know about this injection that makes you happy to take it?

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I think they are doing this to expediate the delivery of vaccines. Get people fed up enough so they will just take it, also ruin the economy at it's busiest time in some sectors. This is a real big push by them I have to say. Feel so sorry for all the folks who have already spent a load on travel plans etc 

 

Think it's probably unenforcable realistically, hope people ignore it!

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From the DailyMail - loads of blah blah blah about the new Tier 4 and then this...

 

Although it does not appear to be any more deadly, it is believed to be much more contagious, accounting for an incredible 60 per cent of new cases in London over the past week.

 

So once again, manipulation.   No increased risk to life.

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

The mask manufacturers are raking it in, especially with the disposable masks that are really only good for a couple of hours before they need to be replaced. Even some of the reusable 'washable' masks are only apparently designed to last 30 to 50 washes.

 

I convinced myself that this 90 year old lady is a crisis actor, and this whole story is just 'theatre' for the media.

 

Its difficult to judge the age of the 'daughter' and 'grandson' because they're both wearing face coverings (how convenient), but I agree it does look odd.

 

The 'daughter' has the body of a 35 year old.

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