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2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I read elsewhere the other day that avian flu is doing the rounds again and making a lot of wild birds ill.

 

The 'solution' to 'stop the spread' of avian flu appears to be to cull a large number of birds.

 

Recently in Denmark, they started to 'cull' a number of mink, because it was believed they had a type of coronavirus that could 'spread' to humans.

 

 

Its funny isn't it, will there be a point where governments announce that the only way to 'stop the spread' of this coronavirus will be to 'cull' a large number of the human population?

 

You can already imagine the virtue-signallers lining up to support this...

 

There were Yellow signs up near a chicken farm "Warning you entering an area where bird flu is beng monitored"  or somesuch - Midlands

 

Em radiation ?

 

I have been trying to find out if there are EM spectrum monitoring sites anywhere that log changes to activity in the spectrum? 

 

 

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14 hours ago, banjo dog said:

Heard on radio that Mike Pence, Trumps right hand man and his wife have had the vaccine live on T.V. He said the vaccine is safe and effective. He should know, he's a politician. I for one hope we go into lockdown in the new year. This will confirm once and for all that Boris is a fool. Only a fool does the same thing again and again hoping for a different outcome.

 

We will go back into lockdown. Shit is going to hit the fan soon. What form that takes is the main question. 

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STUDY: Flu Vaccine Raises Risk Of COVID Death

Published on December 18, 2020

Written by Jim Hoft

 

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Back in May we reported on The Gateway Pundit website a curious and emphatic correlation between the flu jab and Covid-19 mortality. Comparing data from across Europe, we found that countries with high coverage of influenza vaccination in the elderly had the highest death toll from the coronavirus pandemic.

Correlation, of course, is not causation, and we presented our findings tentatively. Our article drew smears of ‘fake news’ and ‘anti-vax conspiracy theory’. However, this putative risk of the flu vaccine should be taken seriously, particularly after our findings were corroborated by a peer-reviewed scientific analysis.

Christian Wehenkel, in the journal PeerJ (1 October 2020), studied 26 European countries and found a strong correlation (r = 0.62) between flu jab uptake and Covid deaths in older people. This result is slightly lower than ours (= 0.7).  Conducting his analysis after the ‘first wave’ of the virus in spring 2020, Wehenkel was able to compare countries by their public health response, but he found no significant differences due to lockdown or mandatory masks.

Our earlier study arose from observing stark contrasts in Covid-19 mortality in Europe. Why were the UK, Belgium, Italy and Spain so high, and Germany, the Nordic countries and eastern Europe so low? A multitude of ecological, demographic and diagnostic factors may explain this, but on searching for answers we were struck by flu vaccination data. Could this be a case of iatrogenic medicine; in other words, a medical intervention that does more harm than good?

The flu vaccine is administered annually, in early autumn. A new preparation is needed every year, due to the volatility of the virus. Often the strains that become most virulent over winter are not anticipated by the vaccine, thus lowering protection. Nonetheless, in 2009 health ministers across the EU agreed to a target of vaccinating 75% of older people against influenza. However, ten years later, no country had achieved this, the average being 44.3%. . . . .

 

 

The rest of the article  - https://principia-scientific.com/study-flu-vaccine-raises-risk-of-covid-death/

 

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5 hours ago, truther79 said:

Two bits of news I've heard today...

 

Brian Rose is running for Mayor of London in 2021.

 

Everton FC are making tests for the 'ol Miley Cyrus mandatory before entry for fans.

 

Make of this what you will.

He has been running for a while i did notice this Ad below on the youtube app today

i find him interesting to watch

 

Brians unrestricted self love breakdancing skills and Email harvesting won me over

 

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2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

The 'solution' to 'stop the spread' of avian flu appears to be to cull a large number of birds.

 

Its funny isn't it, will there be a point where governments announce that the only way to 'stop the spread' of this coronavirus will be to 'cull' a large number of the human population?

 

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35 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

We will go back into lockdown. Shit is going to hit the fan soon. What form that takes is the main question. 

 

The vaccine roll out will cause a wave of adverse effects. The government will call this a 'third wave' of covid and the NHS will declare a 'state of emergency'

 

The government will then deploy the army to roll out the vaccines at warpspeed and will retable the idea of mandatory vaccinations

 

They will also clamp down hard on 'anti-vax' 'conspiracy theories' online using the online harms act to shut down online platforms (such as this one we are on)

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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

The vaccine roll out will cause a wave of adverse effects. The government will call this a 'third wave' of covid and the NHS will declare a 'state of emergency'

 

The government will then deploy the army to roll out the vaccines at warpspeed and will retable the idea of mandatory vaccinations

 

They will also clamp down hard on 'anti-vax' 'conspiracy theories' online using the online harms act to shut down online platforms (such as this one we are on)

 

I think there may be a softer approach than that, but when we start reaching the idea of mandatory vaccines serious pushback needs to start or its all over bar the shouting.

 

Theres a lot of people out there who don't like any of this one bit but put up with it becuase they live in a bubble of ignorance and mistakenly believe we'll all be back to normal some day soon. When they're forced to confront the reality that that isn't going to happen some will find a way to stay asleep and some will finally see the reality. We have to hope that enough fall into the second camp to be able to put up a real fight.

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10 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

The vaccine roll out will cause a wave of adverse effects. The government will call this a 'third wave' of covid and the NHS will declare a 'state of emergency'

 

The government will then deploy the army to roll out the vaccines at warpspeed and will retable the idea of mandatory vaccinations

 

They will also clamp down hard on 'anti-vax' 'conspiracy theories' online using the online harms act to shut down online platforms (such as this one we are on)

 

And dont worry about the elderly and infirm dying by the bucket load!

It OK - Its expected. The elderly die!

 

Media Warns Public To EXPECT Deaths After COVID Vaccines!

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

I think there may be a softer approach than that

 

The guys at the Uk Column said in their christmas round up that they have been told by people within the NHS that they are being prepared to handle a 'state of emergency'

 

We know that the flu vaccinations cause the immune systems of people to turn on themselves so much of what is being called 'covid 19' is probably people suffering an adverse reaction from the flu jabs that they got earlier in the year

 

The covid jabs will similarly cause a wave of health problems and its my belief that the 'state of emergency' that the NHS is being prepped for is the fall out of the covid vaccination roll out except they of course won't say it is due to the vaccinations but will likely blame it on a 'mutated strain' of the coronavirus

 

4 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

Theres a lot of people out there who don't like any of this one bit but put up with it becuase they live in a bubble of ignorance and mistakenly believe we'll all be back to normal some day soon.

 

Yes there are many that will line up for the vaccine because they believe what they have been told that it is going to be the path back to normality. That is a lie. The great reset is well underway and the world will never be the same again PERIOD

 

All there is now is a choice whether to submit to the davos elites vision for a corporate technocracy or to push back and create a decentralised alternative

 

If you listen to what people are saying they fell under pressure to do certain things because of pressure from their employers and in a corporate world where everyone is either employed by mega-corporations or is unemployed and dependent on state handouts in the form of UBI, no one will be in a position to refuse to comply with any dictats eg accept an experimental vaccine, wear a mask in your own home and car, stay away from family etc

 

Its only when people are self employed that they can't be fired for non compliance and the great reset is about destroying self employment so that the corporations can take over all market share which then leads to everyone losing individual autonomy

 

4 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

When they're forced to confront the reality that that isn't going to happen some will find a way to stay asleep and some will finally see the reality. We have to hope that enough fall into the second camp to be able to put up a real fight.

 

if they come to the realisation that they have been had but in the meantime have accepted the vaccine then it might be too late for them. The vaccine will affect their health and also make them a walking antenna within the 5G system.

 

The 5G system uses beam forming phased array and if you are a walking antenna then you can have a beam aimed at you anywhere, anytime with the resulting health collapse that will cause which they will simply blame on 'bad luck'

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Are people going to stand for this or finally take a stand against it?

 

27 minutes ago.

Christmas 'cancelled for London and the South East': Boris Johnson is set to plunge millions of people into new Tier 4 lockdown with blanket 'stay at home' order and NO festive bubbles after news 'mutant' Covid strain IS more infectious

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9069521/London-south-east-cut-rest-UK.html

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

The guys at the Uk Column said in their christmas round up that they have been told by people within the NHS that they are being prepared to handle a 'state of emergency'

 

We know that the flu vaccinations cause the immune systems of people to turn on themselves so much of what is being called 'covid 19' is probably people suffering an adverse reaction from the flu jabs that they got earlier in the year

 

The covid jabs will similarly cause a wave of health problems and its my belief that the 'state of emergency' that the NHS is being prepped for is the fall out of the covid vaccination roll out except they of course won't say it is due to the vaccinations but will likely blame it on a 'mutated strain' of the coronavirus

 

 

Yes there are many that will line up for the vaccine because they believe what they have been told that it is going to be the path back to normality. That is a lie. The great reset is well underway and the world will never be the same again PERIOD

 

All there is now is a choice whether to submit to the davos elites vision for a corporate technocracy or to push back and create a decentralised alternative

 

If you listen to what people are saying they fell under pressure to do certain things because of pressure from their employers and in a corporate world where everyone is either employed by mega-corporations or is unemployed and dependent on state handouts in the form of UBI, no one will be in a position to refuse to comply with any dictats eg accept an experimental vaccine, wear a mask in your own home and car, stay away from family etc

 

Its only when people are self employed that they can't be fired for non compliance and the great reset is about destroying self employment so that the corporations can take over all market share which then leads to everyone losing individual autonomy

 

 

if they come to the realisation that they have been had but in the meantime have accepted the vaccine then it might be too late for them. The vaccine will affect their health and also make them a walking antenna within the 5G system.

 

The 5G system uses beam forming phased array and if you are a walking antenna then you can have a beam aimed at you anywhere, anytime with the resulting health collapse that will cause which they will simply blame on 'bad luck'

 

Yeah, no doubt its going to get ugly. But we have to stay positive, there will be ways to fight this and fight we must.

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15 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

The guys at the Uk Column said in their christmas round up that they have been told by people within the NHS that they are being prepared to handle a 'state of emergency'

 

The thing is that this has been a story every year in the run up to Christmas, "winter pressure" on the NHS, how the hospitals "can't cope" etc etc, and this always precedes the usual demands for "more money for the NHS", most noticeably in winter periods preceding a general election, for which then the empty 'promises' start falling out the mouths of politicians on the campaign trail.

 

The NHS gets more money every year, but the frontline doctors and nurses don't get their payrise.

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On 12/14/2020 at 5:21 PM, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

She was able to walk one minute, then they put her in a wheelchair for the staged clapping scene,

with a different mask?

 

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Three different masks during the same morning seems odd to me and the fact that Margaret Keenan`s daughter appears very young considering her mother is 90 years of age.

 

Mask number three ... I don't know if there is any significance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Noctua said:

I went and had a look.  Big mistake.  There's a thread on David Icke over there.  Not pretty reading.  I despair!

David Icke | Mumsnet 

The good thing is though you get people who make replies like this:

 

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If someone told me a year ago, it would be illegal to have people for other households in my home, I'd thing they were mentally ill...

I think some of what Icke has said holds water.

That poster was then ridiculed and patronised a bit so hopefully they will think screw these tossers and come to have a read here.

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8 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

The thing is that this has been a story every year in the run up to Christmas, "winter pressure" on the NHS, how the hospitals "can't cope" etc etc

 

i suspect that this time its going to be something more

 

if they need to get us from A to B and A is a public that thinks mandatory vaccines are a step too far whilst B is a public so shit scared that it won't rise up en masse adainst mandatory vaccines then they need something big to happen in order to make that happen

 

so the three big things i see on the horizon are:

 

-massive wave of adverse reactions to the covid jab that will be blamed on 'mutant strain'

-cyber attack being blamed on russians and 'ant-vaxxers' then tied into that as 'agents of putin'

-hyper inflation of dollar as china dumps dollar reserves whilst pushing digital yuan as the new world reserve currency

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5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Three different masks during the same morning seems odd to me and the fact that Margaret Keenan`s daughter appears very young considering her mother is 90 years of age.

 

The mask manufacturers are raking it in, especially with the disposable masks that are really only good for a couple of hours before they need to be replaced. Even some of the reusable 'washable' masks are only apparently designed to last 30 to 50 washes.

 

I convinced myself that this 90 year old lady is a crisis actor, and this whole story is just 'theatre' for the media.

 

Its difficult to judge the age of the 'daughter' and 'grandson' because they're both wearing face coverings (how convenient), but I agree it does look odd.

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