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47 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

Yes it's interesting that China is the largest Gold producer in the world and exports I believe next to nothing! They have been accumulating gold for a long time now. Strategically they are well ahead of the game. And they are quite advanced in their digital currency - so would not be a surprise at all if that happened

 

I think the other thing they are tying to explore is a "basket" of currencies, rather than having the dollar as the only denominator during trading exchanges - have multiple currency denominators. Think facebook tried this - but it got scrapped or whatever - could still happen as an alternative to the dollar system.

 

Bitcoin was £5,000 this time last year......£17,250 as I type this.

Gold was £1200 an ounce then and is now £1,385.

I would suggest it's the digital currency that's being invested in, not gold.

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

and the more they print the less value the currency in circulation will have

 

that means any responsible people in society who have saved money for things like educating their children or starting a business or buying a home will find that the currency in their bank accounts will lose its value over time

 

Bitcoin now at over £20,000 = INFLATION

 

You meant $20,000

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31 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Bitcoin was £5,000 this time last year......£17,250 as I type this.

Gold was £1200 an ounce then and is now £1,385.

I would suggest it's the digital currency that's being invested in, not gold.

 

Don't invest in crypto I would say, or at least private crypto since part of the NWO playbook is to confiscate bitcoins and others from the general population by the banks under the guise of "stopping criminal activity"

 

Already started in Russia this year

 

Dunno what the alternative would be but gold and jewellery is probably the best bet. Also silver since the UN needs it for solar panels in the agenda 21 scheme to control our lives. You want something physical in hand really considering anything used over the internet can be swiped by Israel or the central banks in the blink of an eye.

 

Russia to confiscate crypto, central bank against private digital currency

 

https://www.ledgerinsights.com/russia-confiscate-crypto-private-digital-currency/

 

Yesterday, two pieces of commentary on digital currencies came from Russian authorities, neither particularly supportive. The head of the Bank of Russia said that it is against private currencies in any form, as they threaten financial sovereignty. Meanwhile, the Ministry of Internal Affairs plans to implement measures allowing it to seize digital currencies in the case of criminal activity.

 

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Bank of England doesn't know how the economy is going to fair. It's not rocket science.

 

Force businesses to shut for months on end, give TENS OF BILLIONS POUNDS OF TAXPAYERS

MONEY to big pharma for useless tests and potentially dangerous vaccines and the country in heading

for a GREAT DEPRESSION, like nothing seen in most of our lifetimes.

 

Also note how the dishonest bastards try to blame Brexit.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Don't invest in crypto I would say, or at least private crypto since part of the NWO playbook is to confiscate bitcoins and others from the general population by the banks under the guise of "stopping criminal activity"

 

Bitcoin doesn't have an obfuscated public ledger like Monero.

 

It won't be easy to hide the Bitcoin stolen through Twitter
https://www.engadget.com/twitter-hack-bitcoin-money-laundering-140031258.html

 

'Bitcoin is a great currency to use for criminal transactions because it has no central bank or overarching authority to resolve disputes or combat fraud. One thing it does have in its favor, however, is that the ledger of all Bitcoin transactions is public, and searchable. Which means that, while difficult, it’s entirely possible to follow the source and destination of the money handed over. 

 

In this, like with every other major Bitcoin scam, it’s relatively easy to trace the source of any transaction back to an exchange. That’s the place where people can turn their US dollars into Bitcoin (or back again), which can then be investigated by authorities. This is how the Department of Justice tracked down the Russian agents involved in the 2016 elections. '

 

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This is the reason why there isn't more dissent imo.  The government keeps using taxpayer's

money to pay for furlough. Not just in the UK, but in many countries.

 

Don't get me wrong ... I don't want people to suffer money problems, but whilst there is not

so much financial hardship, most people won't complain and will comply.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Pinkman said:

This is a Facebook group I was in with over 20K members, but it was removed. The admins have remade the group recently. It's full of like minded people who want the truth to come out. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/206303747630710/?ref=share

 

Same as...

 

20k+ users, all polite, never any major dramas..... deleted by Facebook overnight.

 

This is what we're up against in case there was any doubt.

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5 minutes ago, Pinkman said:

This is a Facebook group I was in with over 20K members, but it was removed. The admins have remade the group recently. It's full of like minded people who want the truth to come out. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/206303747630710/?ref=share

 

 

2 minutes ago, NewNotNew said:

Same as...

 

20k+ users, all polite, never any major dramas..... deleted by Facebook overnight.

 

This is what we're up against in case there was any doubt.

 

If you are on facefuck then I question why?

 

Really, if you think it a good idea then you have learnt nothing!

 

Honey Pot comes to mind (along with data gathering ) ilndksgc.gif.6d188eb1cb7ff087a8b6d3074178d973.gif

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33 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Bank of England doesn't know how the economy is going to fair. It's not rocket science.

 

Force businesses to shut for months on end, give TENS OF BILLIONS POUNDS OF TAXPAYERS

MONEY to big pharma for useless tests and potentially dangerous vaccines and the country in heading

for a GREAT DEPRESSION, like nothing seen in most of our lifetimes.

 

Also note how the dishonest bastards try to blame Brexit.

 

 

This is all part of the plan. 'They' know that the UK economy is going to tank next year, and when it does, Brexit will be a  handy scapegoat. And of course the catalyst to get the UK to rejoin the EU again.

 

 

A couple of people mentioned earlier about "where is the money coming from".

 

There's no money being printed, its all being 'borrowed', in other words conjured up out of thin air.

 

Money 'borrowed' by Governments to be paid back with interest, but many people never question who this money is owed to, or even loaned from.

 

And as is stated above, this money being 'borrowed' by the Government is being funnelled off into the hands of private companies, whose chief executives, senior management and shareholders are all benefitting nicely financially.

 

It is barely a year ago when Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party were being roundly ridiculed about their 'magic money tree'.

 

We don't just have a 'magic money tree' now, we seem to have a whole forest of them.

 

And yes, this 'furlough' scheme can't go on forever, and when it comes to an end, there will be a hell of a lot of people who find themselves redundant and out of a job, so the 'furlough' scheme will seamlessly transition into a new Universal Basic Income. And by then, a large number of people will be used to the idea of being paid to 'do nothing'.

 

There's also a reason why the Government have been pushing 're-skilling' over the last few months, there will be many jobs that people will be unable to go back to, but new 'industries' have already been established, namely in testing centres and 'Covid marshalls'. And this also explains why in recent years, there has been a lot of promotion and encouragement of people learning 'digital skills'.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

This is the reason why there isn't more dissent imo.  The government keeps using taxpayer's

money to pay for furlough. Not just in the UK, but in many countries.

 

Don't get me wrong ... I don't want people to suffer money problems, but whilst there is not

so much financial hardship, most people won't complain and will comply.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, a lot of people are not smart enough to be prescient, they will be happy as long as the have Netflix and wine, and are ignore of the fact that the economy is eating itself.

 

They'll only get angry once they are starving and broke.

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16 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

A couple of people mentioned earlier about "where is the money coming from".

 

There's no money being printed, its all being 'borrowed', in other words conjured up out of thin air.

 

Money 'borrowed' by Governments to be paid back with interest, but many people never question who this money is owed to, or even loaned from.

At risk of sounding like a broken record but usury banking is a jewish construct and is written in judaism as a way to control the world.

 

DEUTERONOMY 15:6

For the Lord thy God blesseth thee as He promised thee; and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.

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15 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Yeah, a lot of people are not smart enough to be prescient, they will be happy as long as the have Netflix and wine, and are ignore of the fact that the economy is eating itself.

 

They'll only get angry once they are starving and broke.

 

While there are a number of people who have been furloughed who are itching to get back to work, I do equally think there are a lot of people who are quite happy to be sitting around at home doing fuck all while being paid to do so.

 

Its about getting more people used to the idea of 'state dependency' and living on handouts.

 

But I do genuinely applaud those people who've taken the time during their 'furlough' to rediscover some purpose in their life, either through doing voluntary work or finding new hobbies or learning new skills.

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9 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

While there are a number of people who have been furloughed who are itching to get back to work, I do equally think there are a lot of people who are quite happy to be sitting around at home doing fuck all while being paid to do so.

 

Its about getting more people used to the idea of 'state dependency' and living on handouts.

 

But I do genuinely applaud those people who've taken the time during their 'furlough' to rediscover some purpose in their life, either through doing voluntary work or finding new hobbies or learning new skills.

 

Yeah, I've always had very little patience for lazy twats. Live and let live I suppose but we only get one shot at this incredible experience of life, at least as this version of ourselves. Why the fuck would you aim to spend that time blobbing out on your sofa on the dole?

 

Doesn't seem a good way to grow or expand your consciousness to me, and isn't that what it's all about? 

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1 hour ago, SimonTV said:

My Christmas is ruined now, hotels closed and family terrified. I am going to have to stay at home the entire holiday period. Thanks Boris. 

 

These tiers are bullshit. 

 

Yes, it is 100% pure grade BS.  This is seriously getting out of hand, messing everyone about with the tightening and relaxing of tiers and ever changing restrictions every 2 to 3 weeks.  They are trying to grind people down.

 

My reply to them.

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34 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

At risk of sounding like a broken record but usury banking is a jewish construct and is written in judaism as a way to control the world.

 

 

Well yes of course, I know this, so do you, as do a number of other members here. When I mentioned 'people' I meant the broader population in general, most people don't understand about where money is 'borrowed' from when it comes to government 'spending'.

 

But this money that is 'borrowed' has to be paid back. With interest. And it is the taxpayers who ultimately have to pay this back, but there is simply never enough money available to be able to do so.

 

The bankers get rich, the wealthy get even wealthier, while us 'poor folk' are left with the scraps.

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On 12/16/2020 at 1:18 AM, Macnamara said:

 

the IRA might disagree with that

 

Other European countries have been openly fascist / authoritarian, or have been occupied, etc. That's the difference. People in Britain broadly still have a positive view of the UK's institutions and establishment because its never been openly fascist. And because Britain has never been occupied in recent years, and there hasn't been any form of war within the borders of the UK in recent years, there is this general feeling that Britain is enduring and based on dignified values. 

 

The older generation in particular still think of Britain as "the country of long shadows on county [cricket] grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers, and — as George Orwell said — old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist," as John Major put it. Of course, it has evolved somewhat from when I was younger, but there is still this feeling that we're all in it together, that I believe emanates from the war years, and that the establishment in good-old-Britain could never be corrupt; after all, we fought against fascism.

 

I have seen this with my own parents. It would be impossible for me to explain to my mum and her husband that in acting in response to the Covid-19 virus, the government may not have the best interests of the general population in mind; in fact, it may be deliberately acting against the interests of the majority of people. My mum's husband absolutely 100% believes that Britain is a 'good' country, doesn't have any knowledge that contradicts this, and indeed won't even entertain any. 

 

While I'm sure this applies in many countries, I do think it's different in virtually all other European nations, because they have experienced open fascism and authoritarianism, and they don't believe that everything is in stasis as they've witnessed countries collapsing, civil wars, military juntas, the Berlin Wall falling, the end of the Iron Curtain, etc. People in Britain haven't experienced that; my mum's husband's entire impression of current affairs can be summed up by the phrase...and now on BB1 - the News at Ten.

 

That's why something like this is so dangerous in Britain because most people wouldn't recognise fascism or authoritarianism if it poked them up the bum, whereas that doesn't apply in Berlin, for example.

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