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53 minutes ago, allymisfit said:

Pfft. So another letter from my daughter's school telling us what we can and cannot do during the holidays.

Well, it says "do not sing!" 

Now, I remember my daughter telling me they weren't allowed to sing at school anymore..

But on your own home in christmas?! 

Ain't going to stop me, that's for sure!! All the more reason to sing loud. They want our voices silenced literally. 

 

" Pardon: So, experts tell us that when you have to project your voice people spray more droplets which can carry the virus. Remember to keep the noise down and don’t sing!" 

 

Genuine shitty text. 

 

 My God!

 

The sad fact is some parents are going to go along with this ridiculous advice.😡

 

Singing and dancing is known to help depression, anxiety and dementia, but they want

to make everyone demoralized and unhealthy.

 

I think the people in this clip are able bodied and it was all a laugh ...

 

This is what care homes should be encouraging elderly people to do. Have some fun!

 

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

He/she will file it under 'chicken shit'

MPs  are only puppets of the vermin running the country/world right now.

Too busy virtue signalling to their peers about 'Climate Change' and other fake issues.

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37 minutes ago, Oakwise said:

 

Thanks for advancing the conclusion so succinctly. 

 

It's not like there isn't a precedent for hysterical contagions and mass sociogenic illness.

 

A well-known example from recent history is the June Bug Epidemic, 1962:

 

 

I'm not sure if this kind of mass hysteria can directly cause death. But as you said, it could start an iatrogenic chain-reaction that leads to death or serious injury. 

 

 

Yes they’re open that they think it is the bodies own inflammatory response and yet in the same breath they want to pump things into us that give us an inflammatory response. Stress can raise white cell levels as though the body is responding to an infection as well as an infection.  Which would lead to all the things that an infection would. DVT heart attacks, stroke. 
 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315133

https://plugin.cbd.how/education/deep-vein-thrombosis-dvt/#.X9jyr-TfX7o

 

And then it could also effect your blood sugar levels making you more inflamed 

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-destress.html
 

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

Something I've been wondering for a while is why exactly the general public is reacting this way. Why were people begging for authoritarian lockdowns in March and why have so many been willing to follow the rules ever since. It doesn't seem like something that would have happened even a few years ago.

 

I came accross an old Bill Cooper video which made me think. In it he talks about how CNN managed to interview Osama Bin Laden in his hideout, after the CIA had apparently been unsuccessfully looking for him for months. He makes a point about how stupid and blindly trusting the American public has to be not to find it strange that some of the top minds in intelligence were apparently at a dead end while a news network was able to just waltz into Iraq and find him straight away. He also predicted there would be an event that was blamed on Bin Laden, and was shot in cold blood by uncover police at the beginning of September 2001 a few days before said event.

 

I was quite young during 9/11 and the Bush administration but I remember that most people in my home country of Ireland at the time laughed at the Americans and how easily they were falling for the bs. There was some support for the war in our media, sure, but also many critical voices. The key difference between then and now I think was this and also the fact that very few people in Europe watched or even had access to the likes of CNN. So probably the answer is a mass dumbing down via smart devices and unlimited media, where every news channel is forced to become the kind of lowest common denominator rubbish people used to ridicule in 2001.

 

 

 

 

The majority are accepting and acting this way because most have literally been brainwashed for decades.

Repetition, repetition, repetition. It works for learning multiplication and the disinformation, misinformation and lies of TPTB

 

They repeat the message until you are brainwashed 

 

The media repeat the messages that serves them over and over again. After years of immersion in to this system we unconsciously passively accept a world controlled by corporations. They dictate how we think what we eat and how to behave.

 

What can we do?

 

The media propaganda is blatantly obvious now and many our trying to understand situations by doing their own research and not taking everything they see on the major media for granted. It sometimes takes year of personal research to understand the media propaganda model and admit your ignorance. Corporations controlling governments and the media don´t want a population that is well educated and informed and capable of critical thinking. Voicing your opinion and communicating with others about this subject is the one thing that you can do to raise awareness. It is important for people to become aware of the effects of the propaganda.

 

 


 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

The majority are accepting and acting this way because most have literally been brainwashed for decades.

Repetition, repetition, repetition. It works for learning multiplication and the lies of TPTB

 

They repeat the message until you are brainwashed 

 

The media repeat the messages that serves them over and over again. After years of immersion in to this system we unconsciously passively accept a world controlled by corporations. They dictate how we think what we eat and how to behave.

 

 

 

What can we do?

 

The media propaganda is blatantly obvious now and many our trying to understand situations by doing their own research and not taking everything they see on the major media for granted. It sometimes takes year of personal research to understand the media propaganda model and admit your ignorance. Corporations controlling governments and the media don´t want a population that is well educated and informed and capable of critical thinking. Voicing your opinion and communicating with others about this subject is the one thing that you can do to raise awareness. It is important for people to become aware of the effects of the propaganda.

 

 

 

Yeah I mean all of that is true, there has always been propaganda and big government has never been honest.

 

However, there is something different to this. I've never seen people accept and even welcome such blatant crap before. It would be very hard to believe if it wasn't happening. I'm personally of the opinion that they may have considered masking and mass lockdowns before with the likes of SARS and Bird Flu, but realised that the public wasn't softened up enough yet so they came and went without much actually happening.

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20 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

This really brings home the song 'Sound of Silence'

 

 

 

 

"Silence like a cancer grows"  

 

How did they do this to most of the world?

 

I still get can't over how I was under house arrest for nearly two months, except to buy groceries and medication for my mother.  In Spain we weren't allowed out for a walk or any exercise.  Police were all over the place fining, arresting and in some cases assaulting citizens for being outside.

 

Rockefeller centre features in this video and possibly other clues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Oakwise said:

It's not like there isn't a precedent for hysterical contagions and mass sociogenic illness.

 

A well-known example from recent history is the June Bug Epidemic, 1962

The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief

By Fiona Macrae for the Daily Mail
Updated: 01:23, 18 January 2010

The swine flu outbreak was a 'false pandemic' driven by drug companies that stood to make billions of pounds from a worldwide scare, a leading health expert has claimed.

Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, accused the makers of flu drugs and vaccines of influencing the World Health Organisation's decision to declare a pandemic.

This led to the pharmaceutical firms ensuring 'enormous gains', while countries, including the UK, 'squandered' their meagre health budgets, with millions being vaccinated against a relatively mild disease.

A resolution proposed by Dr Wodarg calling for an investigation into the role of drug firms has been passed by the Council of Europe, the Strasbourg-based 'senate' responsible for the European Court of Human Rights.

An emergency debate on the issue will be held later this month.

Dr Wodarg's claims come as it emerged the British government is desperately trying to offload up to £1billion of swine flu vaccine, ordered at the height of the scare.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242147/The-false-pandemic-Drug-firms-cashed-scare-swine-flu-claims-Euro-health-chief.html

WHO exposed: How health body changed pandemic criteria to push agenda

THE WHO's investigations into the Swine Flu pandemic of 2009 have since found that the virus was largely overplayed, with many questioning whether it was foul play to push H1N1 onto the global stage as a serious crisis.

PUBLISHED: 13:02, Tue, May 12, 2020 | UPDATED: 13:03, Tue, May 12, 2020

In the years following the pandemic, the World Health Organisation (WHO) faced fierce criticism over its handling of the situation.

Some medical experts doubted whether the H1N1 outbreak was really a pandemic at all.

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, a German doctor and former member of parliament, had been watching the spread of swine flu in Mexico City – where the virus was first recorded – and was puzzled at the reaction of the WHO.

 

In 2010, he said: "What we experienced in Mexico City was a very mild flu which did not kill more than usual – which killed even fewer people than usual.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1281081/who-world-health-organisation-coronavirus-latest-swine-flu-covid-19-europe-politics-spt

 

''just get your damn vaccine!!'' ***screeches like a demented harpy***

 

 

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Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t

 

Dr. Brooke Herndon of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, shown at left this month, was told last spring that she appeared to have whooping cough.Credit...Jon Gilbert Fox for The New York Times

By Gina Kolata

2007

 

Dr. Brooke Herndon, an internist at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, could not stop coughing. For two weeks starting in mid-April last year, she coughed, seemingly nonstop, followed by another week when she coughed sporadically, annoying, she said, everyone who worked with her.

Before long, Dr. Kathryn Kirkland, an infectious disease specialist at Dartmouth, had a chilling thought: Could she be seeing the start of a whooping cough epidemic? By late April, other health care workers at the hospital were coughing, and severe, intractable coughing is a whooping cough hallmark. And if it was whooping cough, the epidemic had to be contained immediately because the disease could be deadly to babies in the hospital and could lead to pneumonia in the frail and vulnerable adult patients there.

It was the start of a bizarre episode at the medical center: the story of the epidemic that wasn’t.

For months, nearly everyone involved thought the medical center had had a huge whooping cough outbreak, with extensive ramifications. Nearly 1,000 health care workers at the hospital in Lebanon, N.H., were given a preliminary test and furloughed from work until their results were in; 142 people, including Dr. Herndon, were told they appeared to have the disease; and thousands were given antibiotics and a vaccine for protection. Hospital beds were taken out of commission, including some in intensive care.

Then, about eight months later, health care workers were dumbfounded to receive an e-mail message from the hospital administration informing them that the whole thing was a false alarm.

Not a single case of whooping cough was confirmed with the definitive test, growing the bacterium, Bordetella pertussis, in the laboratory. Instead, it appears the health care workers probably were afflicted with ordinary respiratory diseases like the common cold.

Now, as they look back on the episode, epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists say the problem was that they placed too much faith in a quick and highly sensitive molecular test that led them astray.

Infectious disease experts say such tests are coming into increasing use and may be the only way to get a quick answer in diagnosing diseases like whooping cough, Legionnaire’s, bird flu, tuberculosis and SARS, and deciding whether an epidemic is under way.

There are no national data on pseudo-epidemics caused by an overreliance on such molecular tests, said Dr. Trish M. Perl, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins and past president of the Society of Health Care Epidemiologists of America. But, she said, pseudo-epidemics happen all the time. The Dartmouth case may have been one the largest, but it was by no means an exception, she said.

There was a similar whooping cough scare at Children’s Hospital in Boston last fall that involved 36 adults and 2 children. Definitive tests, though, did not find pertussis.

“It’s a problem; we know it’s a problem,” Dr. Perl said. “My guess is that what happened at Dartmouth is going to become more common.”

Many of the new molecular tests are quick but technically demanding, and each laboratory may do them in its own way. These tests, called “home brews,” are not commercially available, and there are no good estimates of their error rates. But their very sensitivity makes false positives likely, and when hundreds or thousands of people are tested, as occurred at Dartmouth, false positives can make it seem like there is an epidemic.

“You’re in a little bit of no man’s land,” with the new molecular tests, said Dr. Mark Perkins, an infectious disease specialist and chief scientific officer at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit foundation supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. “All bets are off on exact performance.”

Of course, that leads to the question of why rely on them at all. “At face value, obviously they shouldn’t be doing it,” Dr. Perl said. But, she said, often when answers are needed and an organism like the pertussis bacterium is finicky and hard to grow in a laboratory, “you don’t have great options.”

Waiting to see if the bacteria grow can take weeks, but the quick molecular test can be wrong. “It’s almost like you’re trying to pick the least of two evils,” Dr. Perl said.

At Dartmouth the decision was to use a test, P.C.R., for polymerase chain reaction. It is a molecular test that, until recently, was confined to molecular biology laboratories.

“That’s kind of what’s happening,” said Dr. Kathryn Edwards, an infectious disease specialist and professor of pediatrics at Vanderbilt University. “That’s the reality out there. We are trying to figure out how to use methods that have been the purview of bench scientists.”

The Dartmouth whooping cough story shows what can ensue.

To say the episode was disruptive was an understatement, said Dr. Elizabeth Talbot, deputy state epidemiologist for the New Hampshire Department of Health and Human Services.

“You cannot imagine,” Dr. Talbot said. “I had a feeling at the time that this gave us a shadow of a hint of what it might be like during a pandemic flu epidemic.”

Yet, epidemiologists say, one of the most troubling aspects of the pseudo-epidemic is that all the decisions seemed so sensible at the time.

Dr. Katrina Kretsinger, a medical epidemiologist at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who worked on the case along with her colleague Dr. Manisha Patel, does not fault the Dartmouth doctors.

“The issue was not that they overreacted or did anything inappropriate at all,” Dr. Kretsinger said. Instead, it is that there is often is no way to decide early on whether an epidemic is under way.

Before the 1940s when a pertussis vaccine for children was introduced, whooping cough was a leading cause of death in young children. The vaccine led to an 80 percent drop in the disease’s incidence, but did not completely eliminate it. That is because the vaccine’s effectiveness wanes after about a decade, and although there is now a new vaccine for adolescents and adults, it is only starting to come into use. Whooping cough, Dr. Kretsinger said, is still a concern.

The disease got its name from its most salient feature: Patients may cough and cough and cough until they have to gasp for breath, making a sound like a whoop. The coughing can last so long that one of the common names for whooping cough was the 100-day cough, Dr. Talbot said.

But neither coughing long and hard nor even whooping is unique to pertussis infections, and many people with whooping cough have symptoms that like those of common cold: a runny nose or an ordinary cough.

“Almost everything about the clinical presentation of pertussis, especially early pertussis, is not very specific,” Dr. Kirkland said.

That was the first problem in deciding whether there was an epidemic at Dartmouth.

The second was with P.C.R., the quick test to diagnose the disease, Dr. Kretsinger said.

With pertussis, she said, “there are probably 100 different P.C.R. protocols and methods being used throughout the country,” and it is unclear how often any of them are accurate. “We have had a number of outbreaks where we believe that despite the presence of P.C.R.-positive results, the disease was not pertussis,” Dr. Kretsinger added.

At Dartmouth, when the first suspect pertussis cases emerged and the P.C.R. test showed pertussis, doctors believed it. The results seem completely consistent with the patients’ symptoms.

“That’s how the whole thing got started,” Dr. Kirkland said. Then the doctors decided to test people who did not have severe coughing.

“Because we had cases we thought were pertussis and because we had vulnerable patients at the hospital, we lowered our threshold,” she said. Anyone who had a cough got a P.C.R. test, and so did anyone with a runny nose who worked with high-risk patients like infants.

“That’s how we ended up with 134 suspect cases,” Dr. Kirkland said. And that, she added, was why 1,445 health care workers ended up taking antibiotics and 4,524 health care workers at the hospital, or 72 percent of all the health care workers there, were immunized against whooping cough in a matter of days.

“If we had stopped there, I think we all would have agreed that we had had an outbreak of pertussis and that we had controlled it,” Dr. Kirkland said.

But epidemiologists at the hospital and working for the States of New Hampshire and Vermont decided to take extra steps to confirm that what they were seeing really was pertussis.

The Dartmouth doctors sent samples from 27 patients they thought had pertussis to the state health departments and the Centers for Disease Control. There, scientists tried to grow the bacteria, a process that can take weeks. Finally, they had their answer: There was no pertussis in any of the samples.

“We thought, Well, that’s odd,” Dr. Kirkland said. “Maybe it’s the timing of the culturing, maybe it’s a transport problem. Why don’t we try serological testing? Certainly, after a pertussis infection, a person should develop antibodies to the bacteria.”

They could only get suitable blood samples from 39 patients — the others had gotten the vaccine which itself elicits pertussis antibodies. But when the Centers for Disease Control tested those 39 samples, its scientists reported that only one showed increases in antibody levels indicative of pertussis.

The disease center did additional tests too, including molecular tests to look for features of the pertussis bacteria. Its scientists also did additional P.C.R. tests on samples from 116 of the 134 people who were thought to have whooping cough. Only one P.C.R. was positive, but other tests did not show that that person was infected with pertussis bacteria. The disease center also interviewed patients in depth to see what their symptoms were and how they evolved.

“It was going on for months,” Dr. Kirkland said. But in the end, the conclusion was clear: There was no pertussis epidemic.

“We were all somewhat surprised,” Dr. Kirkland said, “and we were left in a very frustrating situation about what to do when the next outbreak comes.”

Dr. Cathy A. Petti, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Utah, said the story had one clear lesson.

“The big message is that every lab is vulnerable to having false positives,” Dr. Petti said. “No single test result is absolute and that is even more important with a test result based on P.C.R.”

As for Dr. Herndon, though, she now knows she is off the hook.

“I thought I might have caused the epidemic,” she said.

Correction: 

The credit for pictures last Monday with the continuation of a front-page article about a whooping cough scare at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center omitted the photographer's surname. He is Jon Gilbert Fox.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

A lot of ultra-orthordox Jewish people don't like vaccinations. Some are waiting for the Moshiach to save them too, not a vaccine.

 

Being a faithful JW is blown since Velma told us about the synthetic vaccine.

May be I ought to convert to Jewish now. You guys don't blame me for being one. Shalom I am all kosher. lol

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11 minutes ago, Mr H said:

"According to a YouGov poll, a majority of people (57%) in Great Britain believe the relaxation of coronavirus restrictions over Christmas should be scrapped."

 

so that's 57% of people who are brainwashed enough or malicious enough to want to cancel christmas and lets say that the bulk of them would also accept a vaccine....that still isn't the 75% they say they need for herd immunity, so that's when the motion of mandatory vaccines will get tabled again...spring next year

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1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

 

 

The mass media would spin that as the day they heard the vaccine was soon coming.

 

23 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

YouGov poll of 10 fuckin morons. 

 

Govidiots.

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2 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

He/she will file it under 'chicken shit'

MPs  are only puppets of the vermin running the country/world right now.

True , i completely agree. I think flooding their inbox with emails declaring disagreement plants seeds 

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