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[SimonTV]

 

[HAARPING_On]

17 hours ago, AndyJ said:

 

I carry a letter around with me which states how many discrimination, equality and human rights laws someone would be breaking if they tried to stop me entering their shop because I'm exempt from wearing a mask. Never had to use it so far but it would be funny to see the look on a jobsworth's face when they realise that I could actually sue them for being a cunt. 

 

Any chance you can share that with us on here? Be good to have something to refer to / copy / download.

 

Cheers

[HAARPING_On]

20 hours ago, TechGeekDee said:

My concern though is that countries in the west have not lived under any recent authoritarian dictatorships and therefore are less aware of the patterns/tactics used to usher in such a society. You see protests in much higher numbers in countries that have....Germany for example, they know all too well where this is all headed! My fear is that we'll need to feel a lot more pain before enough resist...and that could take decades to then turn around. In addition, I worry about our ability to revolt once a technical enforcement solution is in place from surviallance.....AI merged with robotics is no longer Sci Fi realm.....it's not that far away. As soon as we have stable quantum computers, AI will take off expotentially I think....and on the robotics side, bostom dynamics have come on leaps and bounds! Unfortunately the negative forces of the world will want to use such solutions to control us where the power of 'no' is not really a viable option.

 

Peter Hitchens has made this point repeatedly on his live phone in chats with Mike Graham on Talk Radio every Monday... Hitchens had spells in Russia and East Germany I believe, and therefore has first hand experience of living in this environment under authoritarian rule...

[Noctua]

35 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

I find it impressive in a strange way that there are people out there who have been living in constant fear since March. How could you not just find it fucking boring at this stage? Its the same old shite over and over and over again 

Especially as there are no over-flowing morgues, people losing their neighbours and entire swathes of relatives to 'The Covid', no endless waitlists for funerals.  TV series are still being filmed, we had Strictly and I'm a Celeb, game shows are still on every Saturday.

 

The only things we've lost is our freedom, our jobs, the ability to plan, to travel, to hug, to be spontaneous.

The list goes on, but a pandemic it is not.

Edited December 15, 2020 by Noctua

[Mr H]

20 hours ago, TechGeekDee said:

My concern though is that countries in the west have not lived under any recent authoritarian dictatorships and therefore are less aware of the patterns/tactics used to usher in such a society. You see protests in much higher numbers in countries that have....Germany for example, they know all too well where this is all headed! My fear is that we'll need to feel a lot more pain before enough resist...and that could take decades to then turn around. In addition, I worry about our ability to revolt once a technical enforcement solution is in place from surviallance.....AI merged with robotics is no longer Sci Fi realm.....it's not that far away. As soon as we have stable quantum computers, AI will take off expotentially I think....and on the robotics side, bostom dynamics have come on leaps and bounds! Unfortunately the negative forces of the world will want to use such solutions to control us where the power of 'no' is not really a viable option.

 

I think there is some truth in this, but not sure about the case for Germany.

 

German people are probably one of the most obedient people's in the Western World. I think the increase in protesters in Germany is more likely due to them being a nation that is extremely interested in health and science, and therefore more likely that the people have read a bit more about it. Still saying that, although there have been some large protests there, by and large, most people there are being compliant.

[Orange Alert]

4 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

 

 

Unless it is a life or death situation you don't use a baton to strike someone's head, not unless you are a Mafia henchman. The telescopic steel batons which most police use, in my opinion are highly dangerous.

 

[Illmatic]

9 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

I think there is some truth in this, but not sure about the case for Germany.

 

German people are probably one of the most obedient people's in the Western World. I think the increase in protesters in Germany is more likely due to them being a nation that is extremely interested in health and science, and therefore more likely that the people have read a bit more about it. Still saying that, although there have been some large protests there, by and large, most people there are being compliant.

 

Yeah I've been living in Germany about 3 months now and I think that's a pretty good description. When there are laws they are followed to the letter by most, but on the flipside there is a greater culture of skepticism than other European cultures with fascism fresher in the memory than most.

 

Unfortunately I'm a bit less optimistic about Germany than I was when I arrived here. The people are being told that the fascists are out in the protests when the reality is that the real ones are passing new enabling acts and putting resistance groups under surveillance, and by and large they are falling for it.

 

I've read a fair bit about the history of Germany philosophy and politics, and it was interesting to note the moral fallout after WWII. There was and still is huge amounts of national guilt about how this could be allowed to happen, and then the Critical Theory movement even started to ask if it was something inherent in their genetics. It's also interesting how this same movement has now grown into the far left, possibly one of the biggest factors in Germany spearheading an authoritarian movement in Europe again. History repeating itself.

[TechGeekDee]

44 minutes ago, HAARPING_On said:

 

Peter Hitchens has made this point repeatedly on his live phone in chats with Mike Graham on Talk Radio every Monday... Hitchens had spells in Russia and East Germany I believe, and therefore has first hand experience of living in this environment under authoritarian rule...

Yes, I do not miss any of his Talk Radio appearances. I still dearly miss his brother the late Christopher Hitchens. I was moved very powerfully by a talk he did about Saddam Hussein and his regime. And this line resonated with me 'If you think SH is a bad guy...then you don't know what you are talking about'. I think there is much truth to this. Unless you have seen first hand what real evil is can you really comment? It's investigative journalism that I respect most, those who are prepared to take risks to present other narratives. John Pilger is one of my longer term favourite journalists, and while I find some of his film making harrowing to watch (Coming War on China) it does serve to open your eyes...there are no such things as the good guys and the bad guys (that's just propaganda)...there is a mix of both everywhere from within your own family and applied to every grouping you care to mention.

[TechGeekDee]

25 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Yeah I've been living in Germany about 3 months now and I think that's a pretty good description. When there are laws they are followed to the letter by most, but on the flipside there is a greater culture of skepticism than other European cultures with fascism fresher in the memory than most.

 

Unfortunately I'm a bit less optimistic about Germany than I was when I arrived here. The people are being told that the fascists are out in the protests when the reality is that the real ones are passing new enabling acts and putting resistance groups under surveillance, and by and large they are falling for it.

 

I've read a fair bit about the history of Germany philosophy and politics, and it was interesting to note the moral fallout after WWII. There was and still is huge amounts of national guilt about how this could be allowed to happen, and then the Critical Theory movement even started to ask if it was something inherent in their genetics. It's also interesting how this same movement has now grown into the far left, possibly one of the biggest factors in Germany spearheading an authoritarian movement in Europe again. History repeating itself.

Thank you for sharing. This is part of why I think free speech and maintaining historical artefacts is so so important. We need to keep the conversation going, remember the past, the lessons learned, else we are doomed to repeat.

[Illmatic]

32 minutes ago, TechGeekDee said:

Thank you for sharing. This is part of why I think free speech and maintaining historical artefacts is so so important. We need to keep the conversation going, remember the past, the lessons learned, else we are doomed to repeat.

 

No problem.

 

I think the old system is to tinker with the narrative and only give a partial truth or conceal some of the inconvenient facts. Part of the "Great Reset" is to destroy that narrative completely, retrospectively judging everything by how "racist" or "un progressive" it was as a supposedly pure post-history society.

[SimonTV]

 

[Illmatic]

1 hour ago, TechGeekDee said:

Yes, I do not miss any of his Talk Radio appearances. I still dearly miss his brother the late Christopher Hitchens. I was moved very powerfully by a talk he did about Saddam Hussein and his regime. And this line resonated with me 'If you think SH is a bad guy...then you don't know what you are talking about'. I think there is much truth to this. Unless you have seen first hand what real evil is can you really comment? It's investigative journalism that I respect most, those who are prepared to take risks to present other narratives. John Pilger is one of my longer term favourite journalists, and while I find some of his film making harrowing to watch (Coming War on China) it does serve to open your eyes...there are no such things as the good guys and the bad guys (that's just propaganda)...there is a mix of both everywhere from within your own family and applied to every grouping you care to mention.

 

Yeah I have some time for Peter but Christopher was a great speaker. I don't think you could really say with any conviction that Saddam Hussein was a "nice" guy but he certainly was not what the US tried to portray him as, the same with Assad and it was the same with Gaddafi.

 

The greatest evil in our world are the intelligence agencies, in particular the CIA and Mossad. They will stop at nothing to consolidate their power and control business and society, hiding behind their anonymity to commit atrocities with no morals or scruples whatsoever. 

[Golden Retriever]

2 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

You have to try and work out the motive behind this article.

The Daily Fail is ultimately owned by the same people that are perpetrating the scamdemic and the ushering in of the NWO.....They have been at the very forefront  of the pushing of daily fear porn and government lies from the start.

 

It does make you wonder who exactly Lord Rothermere is there to serve.

 

Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Fourm used to be a Director of .... wait for it!

 

DAILY MAIL AND GENERAL TRUST P L C

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/CQBR2o5QdcP9HIrmyGu8jHu9oQQ/appointments

Edited December 15, 2020 by Golden Retriever

[Noctua]

From reason.com

 

A New Warning That International Pandemic Responses Are Eroding Freedom

Authoritarian-minded officials have found opportunity in public health fears.

J.D. TUCCILLE | 12.14.2020 11:00 AM

...

"The first global pandemic of the digital age has accelerated the international adoption of surveillance and public security technologies, normalising new forms of widespread, overt state surveillance," warned Kelsey Munro and Danielle Cave of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute's Cyber Policy Centre last month.

"Numerous governments have used the COVID-pandemic to repress expression in violation of their obligations under human rights law," United Nations Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Expression David Kaye noted in July.

"For authoritarian-minded leaders, the coronavirus crisis is offering a convenient pretext to silence critics and consolidate power," Human Rights Watch warned back in April.

There's widespread agreement, then, that government officials around the world are exploiting the pandemic to expand their power and to suppress opposition. That's the case not only among the usual suspects where authorities don't pretend to take elections and civil liberties seriously, but also in countries that are traditionally considered "free."

It's wildly optimistic to expect that newly acquired surveillance tools and enforcement powers will simply evaporate once COVID-19 is sent on its way. The post-pandemic new normal is almost certain to be more authoritarian than what went before.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Nation Of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan Calls The Vaccine ‘Toxic Waste,’ Refers To White People As ‘Crackers’
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/14/louis-farrakhan-coronavirus-vaccine-skeptic/

 

The ‘Terrorgram’ Plot by Neo-Nazis to Seduce Anti-Vaxxers
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-vaxxer-panic-about-the-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-meets-neo-nazi-fantasies-in-corona-chan

 

Gutter journalism trying to shame Muslims and white people.

 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

26 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

It does make you wonder who exactly Lord Rothermere is there to serve.

 

Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Fourm used to be a Director of .... wait for it!

 

DAILY MAIL AND GENERAL TRUST P L C

 

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/CQBR2o5QdcP9HIrmyGu8jHu9oQQ/appointments

 

Exactly.

[TechGeekDee]

Interesting that I have just stumbled on a series covering rise and fall of civilizations and the first part covering the height of the Roman Empire and the attempts in the 1st Centruy BC to invading Britania , eventually successfully by Emperor Claudius, the failure to take the north and errection of hadrians wall to mark the controlled territory....and then around AD 249, a disease brough back from campaigns in the East caused a significan pandemic for the empire. The Plaque at it's height killing many thousands a day in Rome and that went on to decimate the Roman armies across Europe...some 5 Million.......that puts the Covid19 pandemic into some perspective does it not?

[oneantisworthtenofyou]

3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

I'd take a hammer to the radio and fuck the consequences.

Noise cancelling ear buds 

[Oakwise]

Okay. Here's a real-life anecdote. 

 

A family I know told me they had covid. They said they've had colds in the past which were worse. In fact, they were fit enough to continue working from home. They did so really to keep their minds off the worry. 

 

And here's the rub, the nanny-state vapour rub. They kept getting bombarded with patronising phone calls from the health authorities asking things like, 'Are you alright? Do you feel isolated? Can we help you in anyway?' And they were like, 'We're grown adults, thank you. We're capable of looking after ourselves'. They also kept getting texts urging them to download the app. I'm glad to report they all refused it. 

 

But the rub gets rubbier. When you phone 111 with some mild concerns, you will get told something like, 'Oh, you'll know by day seven if you might die or not.' What a thing to say to someone!

 

This friend of mine said: 'It got close to day seven and I really started to worry. Will I take that dreaded turn? Started to wonder if I was short of breath or not, started to panic a bit'. It turned out to be symptoms of anxiety because the idea had been planted into her head. Everything was fine. They got over it. Nothing to write home about they said. 

 

But it got me wondering: How many of the symptoms out there are the result of panic? Is it possible that panic can exacerbate an otherwise mild respiratory infection? 

 

Take a look at panic attack symptoms: 

 

• "Racing" heart
• Feeling weak, faint, or dizzy
• Tingling or numbness in the hands and fingers
• Sense of terror, or impending doom or death
• Feeling sweaty or having chills
• Chest pains
• Breathing difficulties
• Feeling a loss of control

 

I think some people could be dying of sheer panic. 

[zArk]

3 hours ago, Mr H said:

 

 , by and large, most people there are being compliant.

They keep voting for merckle and the fact she was in office when the infamous new year rapes occurred and shes still in office says alot about the majority of the public

 

 

[SimonTV]

5 minutes ago, Oakwise said:

Okay. Here's a real-life anecdote. 

 

A family I know told me they had covid. They said they've had colds in the past which were worse. In fact, they were fit enough to continue working from home. They did so really to keep their minds off the worry. 

 

And here's the rub, the nanny-state vapour rub. They kept getting bombarded with patronising phone calls from the health authorities asking things like, 'Are you alright? Do you feel isolated? Can we help you in anyway?' And they were like, 'We're grown adults, thank you. We're capable of looking after ourselves'. They also kept getting texts urging them to download the app. I'm glad to report they all refused it. 

 

But the rub gets rubbier. When you phone 111 with some mild concerns, you will get told something like, 'Oh, you'll know by day seven if you might die or not.' What a thing to say to someone!

 

This friend of mine said: 'It got close to day seven and I really started to worry. Will I take that dreaded turn? Started to wonder if I was short of breath or not, started to panic a bit'. It turned out to be symptoms of anxiety because the idea had been planted into her head. Everything was fine. They got over it. Nothing to write home about they said. 

 

But it got me wondering: How many of the symptoms out there are the result of panic? Is it possible that panic can exacerbate an otherwise mild respiratory infection? 

 

Take a look at panic attack symptoms: 

 

• "Racing" heart
• Feeling weak, faint, or dizzy
• Tingling or numbness in the hands and fingers
• Sense of terror, or impending doom or death
• Feeling sweaty or having chills
• Chest pains
• Breathing difficulties
• Feeling a loss of control

 

I think some people could be dying of sheer panic. 

 

Yes I think this is very likely, the media has created a hypochondriatic population through the constant fear propaganda. People that are living shielded lives and are easily panicable will have become hyper sensitive to getting any form of cold or flu and a panic attack could be enough for them to call the ambulance. Once they arrive, the doctors test for covid and PCR winner it is, positive result. Then they are stuck on drugs and a ventilator because NHS cares. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by SimonTV

[allymisfit]

Pfft. So another letter from my daughter's school telling us what we can and cannot do during the holidays.

Well, it says "do not sing!" 

Now, I remember my daughter telling me they weren't allowed to sing at school anymore..

But in your own home on christmas?! 

Ain't going to stop me, that's for sure!! All the more reason to sing loud. They want our voices silenced literally. 

 

" Pardon: So, experts tell us that when you have to project your voice people spray more droplets which can carry the virus. Remember to keep the noise down and don’t sing!" 

 

Genuine shitty text. 

 

Edited December 15, 2020 by allymisfit

[EnigmaticWorld]

[zArk]

1 minute ago, allymisfit said:

Pfft. So another letter from my daughter's school telling us what we can and cannot do during the holidays.

Well, it says "do not sing!" 

Now, I remember my daughter telling me they weren't allowed to sing at school anymore..

But on your own home in christmas?! 

Ain't going to stop me, that's for sure!! All the more reason to sing loud. They want our voices silenced literally. 

Rattle off an email to your mp

 

[sickofallthebollocks]

4 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

You have to try and work out the motive behind this article.

The Daily Fail is ultimately owned by the same people that are perpetrating the scamdemic and the ushering in of the NWO.....They have been at the very forefront  of the pushing of daily fear porn and government lies from the start.

Indeed, agree ziggy,  I too see that side, the dailyfail gve with one hand and take with the other - followed by a big middle finger - but can't help but feel that if it wakes up a few misguided daily mail readers then not a compeltely bad thing...