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I did a quick scan of the headlines last night before bed and i saw the daily mail was writing a piece about a study (see it at the bottom of this post) that shows people exhibiting the symptoms that are being labelled 'covid 19' which the government is telling us are caused by a brand new coronavirus are being found to have autoantibodies in their system which means that their own immune systems turn on them

 

Please read this snippet from a piece written by the world mercury project YEARS ago that was speaking about a phenomenon that occurs with some vaccines including the flu vaccine whereby through a process they don't really understand which they call 'molecular mimicry' the flu vaccine creates autoantibodies that then make the persons immune system turn on itself

 

We also know that the places worse hit by 'covid' are the places that had previously had big roll outs of the flu vaccine particularly amongst their elderly who are the people developing the covid symptoms

 

So imo we need to be looking at this link between the flu vaccination and covid symptoms:

 

Molecular Mimicry—Understanding the Link between Vaccines and Autoimmune Disease
March 20, 2018
By the World Mercury Project Team

Autoimmune diseases have become increasingly common in the United States and other high-income countries over the past several decades and now affect an estimated 5%-10% of the population in those countries.....when the body’s immune responses get misdirected against itself.

The pathogenic hallmark of autoimmune disease is the production of proteins called autoantibodies, whereby the immune system mistakenly attacks the body’s own organs, tissues and cells instead of fighting external pathogens. Vaccines can prompt autoantibody production through a mechanism called “molecular mimicry.”

'Autoantibodies' make some people more likely to suffer severe coronavirus symptoms and cause 'long Covid', scientists say

  • People with coronavirus have high numbers of 'autoantibodies' in their blood
  • Block body's Covid-tackling antibodies and attack several areas, including brain 
  • Could account for why some Covid sufferers experience long-lasting symptoms 

By Jemma Carr For Mailonline

Published: 20:53, 13 December 2020 | Updated: 22:50, 13 December 2020

Extreme levels of 'friendly fire' antibodies in the immune system could trigger severe coronavirus symptoms and cause 'long Covid', scientists say.

Coronavirus patients have high numbers of 'autoantibodies' in their blood which block the body's Covid-tackling antibodies and attack several areas, including the brain, blood vessels and liver.

This could account for why some Covid sufferers experience long-lasting symptoms - such as fatigue, breathlessness and brain problems, a study found. 

Researchers at Yale University counted the number of 'autoantibodies' in the blood of 194 hospital workers and patients with Covid - compared to 30 healthy staff members.

They found that non-infected people had far fewer autoantibodies than those who had the virus. 

Another set of tests discovered that people with more autoantibodies - which attack the same organs known to be damaged in Covid sufferers - experienced worse Covid-19 symptoms.

Scientists fear the negative effects of the 'friendly fire' could continue for an extended period of time, causing long Covid.

Yale immunobiologist and the study's senior author Aaron Ring told The Guardian: 'Covid-19 patients make autoantibodies that actually interfere with immune responses against the virus.  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9049201/Extreme-levels-friendly-fire-bodys-immune-cause-long-Covid.html

 

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3 minutes ago, Staeld said:

So they have conveniently discovered a new variant of the virus in order to justify London going into Tier 3 lockdown.

 

they will keep moving the goal posts until one of two things happen:

 

either they manage to remould the economy and society into a top down, totalitarian technocracy that will micro-manage every aspect of your life OR the public stop buying into the BS and start asserting their personal sovereignty by peaceful NON compliance on a MASS scale

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37 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they will keep moving the goal posts until one of two things happen:

 

either they manage to remould the economy and society into a top down, totalitarian technocracy that will micro-manage every aspect of your life OR the public stop buying into the BS and start asserting their personal sovereignty by peaceful NON compliance on a MASS scale

My concern though is that countries in the west have not lived under any recent authoritarian dictatorships and therefore are less aware of the patterns/tactics used to usher in such a society. You see protests in much higher numbers in countries that have....Germany for example, they know all too well where this is all headed! My fear is that we'll need to feel a lot more pain before enough resist...and that could take decades to then turn around. In addition, I worry about our ability to revolt once a technical enforcement solution is in place from surviallance.....AI merged with robotics is no longer Sci Fi realm.....it's not that far away. As soon as we have stable quantum computers, AI will take off expotentially I think....and on the robotics side, bostom dynamics have come on leaps and bounds! Unfortunately the negative forces of the world will want to use such solutions to control us where the power of 'no' is not really a viable option.

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1 minute ago, TechGeekDee said:

My fear is that we'll need to feel a lot more pain before enough resist...and that could take decades to then turn around. In addition, I worry about our ability to revolt once a technical enforcement solution is in place from surviallance.....AI merged with robotics is no longer Sci Fi realm.....it's not that far away.

 

the technocracy is being built around us as we speak; we have no time left for ignorance

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

the technocracy is being built around us as we speak; we have no time left for ignorance

Yup, and if you want a glimse of what society it will likely lead too...this is a scary read - https://www.amazon.co.uk/have-been-harmonised-Kai-Strittmatter/dp/1913083004/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OYR27WXCE90L&dchild=1&keywords=we+have+been+harmonised&qid=1607963437&sprefix=we+have+been+h%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1

 

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listened to ken bruce "popmaster" today and got waylaid with stuff and accidentally left the channel on at 12pm

 

Jeremy effin Vine came on and i heard the moronic voice of aunty.

holy shit.. i was throwing stuff at my radio. its moronic discussion for morons and #the crowning turd in the water pipe# was a some arsewipe scientist talking about how everyone needs to be veyr scared and can have a christmas drink with family on the street side socially distanced ... the mutha fooka was from imperial college and the sub-editor of the magazine "vaccine"

 

i was raging like a teenager

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3 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Is this a light at the end of the tunnel? Are the walls starting close in on them? I must admit some of the stories coming out in the MSM is quite surprising at this time. 

Hopefully but probably a distraction from a worse evil being committed as usual. Don’t think genocide is not horrendous just thinking he probably did a worse one somewhere else

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2 hours ago, Pinkman said:

What do we all think will happen after this 'Christmas grace period' ? Is the inevitable 'third wave' on its way? I don't know how I'm supposed to enjoy Christmas when I know we will all shortly be told to stay away from each other again. 

Hancock just saying about new variant of covid found. Reckons vaccine will sort it. There your new bullshit to justify carrying on. Not that they need any!

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2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

an orchestrated cold war against china doesn't mean that the chinese communist party haven't infiltrated the west

 

But to get context to that we need to understand that the chinese communist party was CREATED by the sabbatean network. James Corbett explains from 18 minutes in the clip below that Mao was educated by a Yale offshoot establishment and was then groomed by the skull and bones network for a life in politics. They helped him into power. When he died the 8 'immortals' took over the running of china whilst the british had also been involved in setting up 'triad' criminal networks to distribute the opium that britain was growing in other territories and then pushing into china

 

When the 8 immortals died their families took over and its them who run the communist party in china. Meanwhile the rothschild-cabals transnational corporations had moved into china and built it up into the powerhouse that it is today

 

Modern china was not created by the chinese. It was 100% built into its current configeration by the rothschild-cabal which prof sutton would have called 'wall street' because they are the same people behind the big wall street banks and the cartel of those banks that then made up the 'federal reserve' bank which is neither federal (because its a cartel of private banks in partnership with the US government) nor is it a 'reserve' because it has nothing on deposit

 

 

 

 

This.

 

Meanwhile puppet Boris is saying we should import shit loads of Chinese people from Hong Kong. There are rumours about Chinese troops in Canada, and the US placing SAMs on the border. At the same time people like Schwab are saying China should lead the Great Reset. China is a golem.

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6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

This.

 

Meanwhile puppet Boris is saying we should import shit loads of Chinese people from Hong Kong. There is rumours about Chinese troops in Canada, and the US placing SAMs on the border. At the same time people like Schwab are saying China should lead the Great Reset. China is a golem.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

This.

 

Meanwhile puppet Boris is saying we should import shit loads of Chinese people from Hong Kong. There are rumours about Chinese troops in Canada, and the US placing SAMs on the border. At the same time people like Schwab are saying China should lead the Great Reset. China is a golem.

 

Yes Britain a country that was just 60 million-ish people not that long ago has seen all the following in recent times...and 'replacement theory' is just a conspiracy theory is it?....meanwhile they euthanise the older half of the population with the covid jab and are looking to jab everyone

UK population 'to top 70 million in 12 years'

29 October 2015

The UK population is to increase beyond 70 million in the next 12 years, official projections suggest.

The Office for National Statistics said the population was expected to increase by 4.4 million in the next decade, before reaching 70 million in 2027.

That increase is roughly the size of the Irish Republic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34666382

Almost one million more EU citizens have applied to stay in the UK after Brexit than had been expected as applications hit 4.2 million

  • EU citizens living in UK have until June 30 next year to apply for settled status
  • The UK's EU Settlement Scheme has now had more than 4.2 million applications 
  • Official estimates had previously suggested there were 3.4m EU citizens in UK

By Jack Maidment, Deputy Political Editor For Mailonline and David Wilcock, Whitehall Correspondent For Mailonline

Published: 17:33, 26 November 2020 | Updated: 18:24, 26 November 2020

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8991037/Applications-UKs-EU-Settlement-Scheme-4-2-million.html

UK offers British citizenship to nearly 3m people living in Hong Kong after China's security crackdown 

Foreign Secretary tells Commons that UK has 'got a specific historic responsibility' and there 'won't be any quota'

 

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1 hour ago, Staeld said:

So they have conveniently discovered a new variant of the virus in order to justify London going into Tier 3 lockdown. 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/new-variant-of-coronavirus-identified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416

 

Probably just Hancock misreading some random virology preprint.

https://www.virology.ws/2020/05/07/there-is-one-and-only-one-strain-of-sars-cov-2/

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

I did a quick scan of the headlines last night before bed and i saw the daily mail was writing a piece about a study (see it at the bottom of this post) that shows people exhibiting the symptoms that are being labelled 'covid 19' which the government is telling us are caused by a brand new coronavirus are being found to have autoantibodies in their system which means that their own immune systems turn on them

 

Please read this snippet from a piece written by the world mercury project YEARS ago that was speaking about a phenomenon that occurs with some vaccines including the flu vaccine whereby through a process they don't really understand which they call 'molecular mimicry' the flu vaccine creates autoantibodies that then make the persons immune system turn on itself

 

We also know that the places worse hit by 'covid' are the places that had previously had big roll outs of the flu vaccine particularly amongst their elderly who are the people developing the covid symptoms

 

So imo we need to be looking at this link between the flu vaccination and covid symptoms:

 

Molecular Mimicry—Understanding the Link between Vaccines and Autoimmune Disease
March 20, 2018
By the World Mercury Project Team

Autoimmune diseases have become increasingly common in the United States and other high-income countries over the past several decades and now affect an estimated 5%-10% of the population in those countries.....when the body’s immune responses get misdirected against itself.

The pathogenic hallmark of autoimmune disease is the production of proteins called autoantibodies, whereby the immune system mistakenly attacks the body’s own organs, tissues and cells instead of fighting external pathogens. Vaccines can prompt autoantibody production through a mechanism called “molecular mimicry.”

'Autoantibodies' make some people more likely to suffer severe coronavirus symptoms and cause 'long Covid', scientists say

  • People with coronavirus have high numbers of 'autoantibodies' in their blood
  • Block body's Covid-tackling antibodies and attack several areas, including brain 
  • Could account for why some Covid sufferers experience long-lasting symptoms 

By Jemma Carr For Mailonline

Published: 20:53, 13 December 2020 | Updated: 22:50, 13 December 2020

Extreme levels of 'friendly fire' antibodies in the immune system could trigger severe coronavirus symptoms and cause 'long Covid', scientists say.

Coronavirus patients have high numbers of 'autoantibodies' in their blood which block the body's Covid-tackling antibodies and attack several areas, including the brain, blood vessels and liver.

This could account for why some Covid sufferers experience long-lasting symptoms - such as fatigue, breathlessness and brain problems, a study found. 

Researchers at Yale University counted the number of 'autoantibodies' in the blood of 194 hospital workers and patients with Covid - compared to 30 healthy staff members.

They found that non-infected people had far fewer autoantibodies than those who had the virus. 

Another set of tests discovered that people with more autoantibodies - which attack the same organs known to be damaged in Covid sufferers - experienced worse Covid-19 symptoms.

Scientists fear the negative effects of the 'friendly fire' could continue for an extended period of time, causing long Covid.

Yale immunobiologist and the study's senior author Aaron Ring told The Guardian: 'Covid-19 patients make autoantibodies that actually interfere with immune responses against the virus.  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9049201/Extreme-levels-friendly-fire-bodys-immune-cause-long-Covid.html

 

 

 

“The new mRNA vaccine is completely different. It actually injects (transfects) molecules of synthetic genetic material from non-humans sources into our cells. Once in the cells, the genetic material interacts with our transfer RNA (tRNA) to make a foreign protein that supposedly teaches the body to destroy the virus being coded for. Note that these newly created proteins are not regulated by our own DNA, and are thus completely foreign to our cells. What they are fully capable of doing is unknown.”  source https://principia-scientific.com/about-informed-vaccine-consent-frank-shallenberger-md-hmd/

 

 

If particles classified as viruses are in fact exosomes generated by our own cells in response to some insult, toxic or otherwise then the vaccine will in fact then be targeting our bodies as if it is the “virus”.

We are the virus!

 

Aluminium hydroxide - adjuvant - is a common factor in virtually all vaccines  - causes mini strokes all around the body, heightened immune response by way of antibody stimulation.

Fully agree and suspicious that Flu vaccines have been part of the issue that in all probability has contributed significantly to this in the lead up to launching the "pandemic"

 

iirc Kaufman or Cowan mentioned months ago that all those who were hard hit by covid symptoms were in fact previous recipients of flu vacc's.

 

It would be interesting to be able to see numbers of flu vaccine uptake comparison charts over the past decades and overlay that with mortality figures!

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

yes britain a country that was just 60 million-ish people not that long ago has seen in recent times...and 'replacement theory' is just a conspiracy theory is it?...

 

A conspiracy theory that they can't refute.

 

 

Edit: Mods can delete if they feel it's off topic, but personally I think this all ties in to this Covid/Great Reset agenda.

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Just now, zarkov said:

iirc Kaufman or Cowan mentioned months ago that all those who were hard hit by covid symptoms were in fact previous recipients of flu vacc's.

 

It would be interesting to be able to see numbers of flu vaccine uptake comparison charts over the past decades and overlay that with mortality figures!

 

sorry i have no more 'likes'...i only seem to get a handful a day but totally agree that the vaccinations themselves are the problem

The Influenza Vaccine and COVID-19

What connects the countries of Belgium, Peru, the UK, Spain, Italy, Chile, Sweden, the US, Mexico, and France?  These countries, the top ten in COVID-19 mortality (as of August 24, 2020, according to Johns Hopkins), all injected more than 49% of their elderly populations with the flu vaccine.  This stands in stark contrast to the countries on the low end, with fatality rates/popuation up to four orders of magnitude smaller: Rwanda, Thailand, Mozambique, Sri Lanka, Papau New Guinea, Uganda, Tanzania, Taiwan, and Vietnam - with the exception of a 49% vaccination rate in Taiwan, the flu vaccination rates in these countries is extremely low.  While one might object that these countries may lack in testing ability, careful serological study of multiple countries in Africa has shown that while in fact many cases were missed, this is because the residents were in fact not very ill - while the number of individuals with COVID antibodies in Kenya, for example, was similar to Spain, the hospitals were never overwhelmed and excess deaths were not reported.   However we look at the data - either between or within continents - higher rates of flu vaccination clearly appears to transform large numbers of COVID cases from mild to severe disease.  As flu vaccines are being pushed aggressively and even mandated in fall 2020, it is critical for citizens and medical professionals to review the issue.  Please read on for data, references, and sources.

https://homevaccineeducationnetwork.com/flu-vaccine-and-covid-19

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

A conspiracy theory that they can't refute.

 

 

Edit: Mods can delete if they feel it's off topic, but personally I think this all ties in to this Covid/Great Reset agenda.

 

of course it ties into the covid agenda because the jabs are a bioweapon aimed at turning peoples immune systems against themselves and causing infertility

 

Its absolutely just the latest blow in the takedown of the british people

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Hello

dont know if you already Have these papers but some interesting reading here and should be read in order if you  don’t understand it. 
1) Adenoviral vectors are the new COVID-19 vaccine front-runners. Can they overcome their checkered past?

 

https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/Adenoviral-vectors-new-COVID-19/98/i19

 

2) Sarah Gilbert’s paper on the vaccine dated 2012 

 

A Novel Chimpanzee Adenovirus Vector with Low Human Seroprevalence: Improved Systems for Vector Derivation and Comparative Immunogenicity

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0040385

 

3) MVA.HTI and ChAdOx1.HTI B/ES/18/21
SUMMARY NOTIFICATION INFORMATION FORMAT FOR THE RELEASE OF GENETICALLY MODIFIED ORGANISMS OTHER THAN HIGHER PLANTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 11 OF DIRECTIVE 2001/18/EC

https://gmoinfo.jrc.ec.europa.eu/bsnifs-gmo/B-ES-18-21.pdf

 

Originally intended for gene therapy 

contains two illuminated pieces  red and green

has 16 parts hiv in it.  Lots of reading. I’ve read it once but will need to go over it all a few more times.  It’s been around since at least 2012 

 

 

 

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