Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Bombadil]

You know. Thinking about this just now. Don’t think I can recall a time when a doctor advised a change in lifestyle, diet etc before writing a prescription. Fully aware the money, big pharma evolvement etc. Maybe with people being more open to environmental issues, better living this might be a good track to try with sheep. Plenty of normal people who don’t think like we on this site do, have unpleasant at minimum side effects to medicine. Maybe challenging their/your doctor to treat the illness instead of medicating it might get them to remember why in theory they became doctors in the first place.

[Illmatic]

55 minutes ago, zarkov said:

 

I agree.

2020 vision  :)

 

It felt rushed and desperate from the start - obviously, as they pushed very unnatural behaviours on us collectively!

 

Anti vaccine sentiment has been growing strongly in recent years - the window of opportuniy has been and is rapidly diminishing for their evil.

 

What really kills my pig is that they wont loose a penny in all this in the event they amass enourmous losses, the fiat usury illusion that governs global machinations is that we end up paying for with real value output. 

 

Awareness can only increase and we will get windows of opportunity too!

 

 

 

Yeah my hope for 2021 is we will have some more pushback and more counter-movements gaining a bit of traction, because this year has been nothing but wins for the establishment. At this stage I think we're very unlikely to see the mass awakening we all hope for, but the time is coming to choose a side and I reckon there are far more of us than you would think. It's not going to be long before they have to reveal that this is meant to be the future and not just a temporary measure, and all the fence sitters will have to make up their minds.

[alexa]

5 hours ago, Basket Case said:

We need to keep away from these people for our own safety and we should definitely not be giving them our business / money...

 

I agree BC, you don't know what the hell they've been vaccinated with, but it'll be hard if it's friends or family.

[allymisfit]

Just had a pretty awful convo with my mum. My cousin's son has been very badly injured (touch and go) in a car crash. 

The amount of friends and family this year who have been affected by car accidents (both mine and my partner's families) is ridiculous. 

A good friend lost a son only a month ago to one. 

 

So here we are, worrying about a stupid virus when clearly there are worse things out there happening on a more frequent basis. 

 

The only person I know who supposidly had Covid had a runny nose. 

Let's lock everything up, someone has a runny nose!

 

Unreal. It's hard to not get angry. 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

3 hours ago, Bombadil said:

How do people here feel about mandatory voting? Always imagined if everyone voted a lot of the idiots would not hold positions in parliament/ government etc. Feel especially in the U.K. vast majority who don’t vote wouldn’t vote for the Conservatives. Would also give more potential to viable decent alternatives. Maybe then we could have some non establishment representation that would fight back against this covid crap as well as other pressing issues. 

 

If voting changed anything it wouldn't be allowed.

[Ziggy Sawdust]

3 hours ago, eddy64 said:

my next door neighbour sheila has had the jab she's ok according to my mum who spoke to her on the phone this morning. she's 80 something and had it done at the northern general yesterday,

 

Great news!

I'm off out now to book mine!

[FrankVitali]

Tell you why I am concerned. They government have stupidly bought more vaccines from Tom Dick and Harry than there are people that make up the population of the UK.

 

If the uptake of vaccines isn't to their satisfaction, and lets face it, it won't be (or maybe it will, but I dont think so).  They are not going to want to be left with all these unused vaccines, I fear they will make it mandatory.

 

If not mandatory, then as been advised previously they will force bushinesses and supermarkets to only let the vaxxed in. There are ways around this, but it ain't half gonna be a nightmare.

 

A lot of people are worried about going shopping without getting the vax. My solution to this (and its crap) would be to have shopping delivered by whatever supermarket you normally go.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by FrankVitali

[Ziggy Sawdust]

3 hours ago, FrankVitali said:

 

I think the issues will come much later on.

 

Made me laugh the other day actually as seems the protocol at the hospitals is to give the jab, then ask them how they are feeling 15 minutes after.   Like wtf is going to happen in 15 minutes.

 

In 15 minutes?

Anaphylactic shock?

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by Ziggy Sawdust

[FrankVitali]

24 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

In 15 minutes?

Anaphylactic shock?

 

 

Yeah Zig I know, but what I was trying to say is that, if nothing happens in 15 minutes then you're deemed all well, and you can be on your way. They don't take into account any long term issues that may develop in months or years to come.

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[truther79]

39 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

If voting changed anything it wouldn't be allowed.

Absolutely.

 

I've never really held to any party over the years, but now recently, I have come to the conclusion and decision that I'll never vote again. 

[Morpheus]

2 minutes ago, truther79 said:

Absolutely.

 

I've never really held to any party over the years, but now recently, I have come to the conclusion and decision that I'll never vote again. 

I never voted until Brexit and the last vote and i'm almost 40! I didn't vote Conservative that's for sure. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Voted Labour all my life, but abandoned them around 2016. I could never bring myself to vote Tory and votes for other parties feel like a wasted vote, so I just didn't vote last election.

[Sit down, Waldo]

10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

[JamesX]

The vaccine may be the true bio-weapon. Adequate testing is needed before forcing it upon children. 

 

https://humanrealitymatrix.wordpress.com/the-human-reality-matrix/

 

Just a short note to suggest that the coronavirus vaccine may be the true bio-weapon and the coronavirus a simple decoy. The chinese have been trying to develop a coronavirus vaccine since 2001 and have repeatedly noted that vaccines often make the disease process worse. They largely confined the outbreak locally in Wuhan whilst allowing it to spread widely throughout the world.

 

It should be noted that there is NO vaccine against HIV more than 30yrs after discovery as the virus complicates the immune system just like the coronavirus does that has been modified as a bioweapon. A bioweapon would naturally be developed to make immunization difficult or dangerous. Below the links is just text that I posted in a forum related to this issue, although it does contain a paragraph on the recent interview with Bill Gates and the significance of the upside down cross worn be Melinda that may be of interest.

 

'But a vaccine designed to produce cellular immunity against HIV faces a challenge, as central memory T-cells are the most important reservoir of HIV-infected cells in the body. A vaccine that stimulated the production of central memory T-cells might actually increase susceptibility to infection (as appears to have happened in one trial).'

 

http://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/search-hiv-prevention-vaccine

 

Coronavirus attacks Tcells just like HIV

 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200413/Novel-coronavirus-attacks-and-destroys-T-cells-just-like-HIV.aspx

 

China to give first sars immunisation (2003)

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4417-china-to-give-first-sars-vaccine-to-people/

 

Caution raised over sars vaccine (2005)

https://www.nature.com/articles/news050110-3

 

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” 

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” 

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” 

― Sun Tzu, The Art of war

“Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.” 

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” 

― Sun tzu, The Art of War

 

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Coronavirus vaccine or potential depopulation bioweapon

 

This post contains an important concept not really understood or appreciated by humanity at present so please take the time if available to understand the contents. (IMHO) :)

I was recently faced with a situation of how to deal with children and the up-coming coronavirus vaccine when one parent is provaccine and the other is anti. For the older one I simply suggested it should be a personal decision after studying the relevant details however I am wondering what others think the best approach would be for the younger child?

 

Here are some of the details I provided to the older child and if anyone has any other relevant points I would love to hear them.

 

1/ Association with Bill Gates, vaccines, planned parenthood, eugenics, population control etc.

b/ previous bHCG depopulation experimental vaccine used. Originally developed in 1972 and used experimentally in third world countries without consent to control populations. Imagine the level of depopulation vaccine technology available 50yrs on.

2/ Potential mRNA vaccine. Currently none approved for human use (wikipedia)?  with plans to vaccinate the entire planet on an emergency basis.  Are we really in some AI simulation?

3/ Rushed experiental vaccine, 18months to delivery, usually 5yrs for normal vaccines.

4/ Huge market worth trillions to vaccinate a planet yearly. Corporations (nonsentient machines) have legal protection if any side effects so only concern is profit.

5/ Viral vaccine with issues of high mutagenicity - ?11 coronavirus strains already.

6/ Coronavirus is a bioweapon. Part of weapons development would make vaccine development and use difficult or dangerous. We must entertain the possibility that the global emergency experimental vaccine may infact be the real bioweapon whilst the virus is simply a decoy.

7/ HIV insertions in coronavirus as part of bioweapon. No HIV vaccine available despite being present for over 30 years. HIV complicates the immune system and vaccine development.

'But a vaccine designed to produce cellular immunity against HIV faces a challenge, as central memory T-cells are the most important reservoir of HIV-infected cells in the body. A vaccine that stimulated the production of central memory T-cells might actually increase susceptibility to infection (as appears to have happened in one trial).'

http://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/search-hiv-prevention-vaccine

Coronavirus attacks Tcells just like HIV

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200413/Novel-coronavirus-attacks-and-destroys-T-cells-just-like-HIV.aspx

8/ Minimal (almost zero) risk of coronavirus to children extending to those in their 60's. Uncertain risk from experimental vaccine. Perhaps 100's of times more dangerous. Many cases in history like thalidomide of trusted medical intervention causing harm.

9/ Virus interference. Recent study showed that having a flu vaccine increased the risk of coronavirus.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-19-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk.html

10/ Plenty of movies from the unconscious about depopulation scenarios involving vaccines. 12 Monkeys. Children of men.

11/ Personal synchronicities that suggest this is a possible timeline. The whole antivax movement developed over decades may be an attempt to modify this timeline. The largest impacts on a timeline are often the hardest to modify or change.

12/ Issues of timeline modification. These things are so obviously part of an artificial scenario or simulation. The important question is why? Almost certainly there was a timeline which involved global war, depopulation and eventual extinction. The issue is one of natural laws involved in timeline modification. If there is no collective change in behaviour or consciousness it may be possible to modify certain outcomes but not others. For instance there may have been a WW1 type scenario involving a global war however phase shifted a century. This is replaced by a global pandemic also phase shifted by a century. This targets the sickest people in their 80's rather than the best of humanity in their 20's however a certain number of people are still forced into an early death by natural laws. There are probably things that can only be consciously changed by humanity in the present using free will, such as the number of deaths and freedom of information or average level of consciousness or vibratory frequency. This would involve the widespread appreciation and acceptance that we are collectively as a planet in a reorganisaiton of timeline scenario involving advanced alien technology.

However these things are also a system of communication and information transfer through time which can further help modify the timeline. For such a scenario involving thousands of years and advanced AI it is easy to accept that previous World Wars are simple mechanisms of information transfer through time. For instance there is the WW2 timeline, the nazis and their use of technology to control humans (IBM), nazi biological weapons development, rise of nationalism, death camps (muslims and Jews) and eventual use of nuclear weapons against Japan or (China) in 2045. These changes are almost certainly going to be associated with the return of Jesus and the apocalypse as previously documented.

 

Links.

 

Plandemic

https://www.brighteon.com/45c1558c-4163-4961-9f92-11c7c4c1af21

Nobel Prize winner associated with disovery of HIV confirms the coronavirus is a bioweapon with HIV inserts.

https://greatgameindia.com/nobel-prize-winner-french-virologist-confirm-covid-19-hiv-study/

https://wearechange.org/is-covid-19-man-made-hiv-discoverer-says-could-only-have-been-created-in-a-lab/

Indian scientists confirm same

https://greatgameindia.com/indian-scientists-discover-coronavirus-engineered-with-aids-like-insertions/

 

what they arent telling you

https://greatgameindia.com/indian-scientists-discover-coronavirus-engineered-with-aids-like-insertions/

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-02-coronavirus-bioweapon-chinese-vaccine-experiment-gone-wrong-pshuttle-sn-gene-sequence.html

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-20-full-transcript-smoking-gun-interview-prof-frances-boyle-coronavirus-bioweapons.html

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-19-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk.html

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200312/Could-rushing-a-coronavirus-vaccine-cause-more-harm.aspx

 

The Pseudoscience of Vaccines

https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb56ace086bd2007913612f

https://youtu.be/Rc6_QudIwqA

https://banned.video/watch?id=5ebafca0244ac5001d21b078

 

Forced Vaccinations

https://banned.video/watch?id=5ebb5cf4244ac5001d2332d0

https://banned.video/watch?id=5ebeb603244ac5001d2732ea

Rushed experimental vaccine (around minute 37) "safer to sit this one out"

https://youtu.be/PF4BzDYsXTc

 

The Red Pill Reality Matrix Ebook

Redundant links due to shadow banning.

https://ln.sync.com/dl/-biy4merm7ee9a20/7bauggt9-9t3rhayu-

https://humanrealitymatrix.wordpress.com/the-human-reality-matrix/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D-zuwq4ww7L72g1e72JILjQU9OPUWZAG/view?usp=sharing

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Edited December 11, 2020 by JamesX

[Ziggy Sawdust]

1 hour ago, FrankVitali said:

 

Yeah Zig I know, but what I was trying to say is that, if nothing happens in 15 minutes then you're deemed all well, and you can be on your way. They don't take into account any long term issues that may develop in months or years to come.

 

Yeah, you're right.

Sorry mate.

[BridgeBuilder]

11 hours ago, Mr H said:

 

No, just answering a question............

 

I find yours and Ziggy's mentality intriguing. So often people on here accuse the cabal of divide and rule - and you guys are willing to judge and then express such vileness towards someone you have no idea about - or do not have the maturity to understand an alternative position to your own. No wonder everyone is fighting each other in this new world of tribalism without understanding. Sad times.

Think what you will.

Not everyone judges you by reading what you type. ;)

[BridgeBuilder]

5 hours ago, Velma said:

Big Pharma and it's propagandists are getting desperate, the backlash to the vaxx is substantial, far greater than anticipated. Folk are not as dumb as they look, in masks. There are only a few willing takers, among those who can't withdraw consent, like elderly care home residents, with dementia.

 

The press will have to lie harder and tell the public we are welcoming it, with upper-arms. They will post old library footage of breadlines in the Great Depresssion and claim they are vaccine queues outside the Nightingale Hospitals. Hoping followers will jump on the bandwagon, incase they miss out. LOL!

 

Well it's been a hard work today.

We are in trouble and we need to up our game. There are so many clueless. It's like I have to start from Conspiracy 101....I mean that should have been at least 5 years ago.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I agree, definitely not a wise move. Doesn't it also show that the Constitution is useless if Americans can't speak about defending themselves against government tyranny though?

Perhaps, but the Supreme Court has always struggled with what constitutes a "true threat" as opposed to hyperbole, no matter how crudely expressed. The Watts case in the 1960s provides some guidelines (man threatened, at an anti-draft rally, to shoot LBJ). Watts did not define a true threat though. However, Virginia v. Black ( a KKK cross-burning case) the SCOTUS  did provide a definition:  ‘True threats’ encompass those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals.. the speaker need not actually intend to carry out the threat. Rather, a prohibition on true threats ‘protect[s] individuals from the fear of violence’ and ‘from the disruption that fear engenders,’ in addition to protecting people ‘from the possibility that the threatened violence will occur.’ ” So using that test, the tweet contained nothing that can be construed as a true threat and is protected speech. The police overreacted.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

13 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

Please consider editing this post so it's not 2 miles long.

I just nearly broke my wrist trying to scroll it for 10 minutes.

lt's been sorted.
BC  :O)

[oneantisworthtenofyou]

10 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

Please consider editing this post so it's not 2 miles long.

I just nearly broke my wrist trying to scroll it for 10 minutes.

PgDn button (page down) will scroll at a variable speed depending on how long its pressed

much less effort than a mouse wheel :)

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

2 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Great news!

I'm off out now to book mine!

Let us know how you get on. Assuming you can still talk, write, and read.

[bamboozooka]

bbc dumb arse article of the day

 

Covid drives record emissions drop in 2020

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55261902

no fkin shit sherlock

 

i'm waiting for the "record number of cashless payments" article

[BridgeBuilder]

10 hours ago, allymisfit said:

 

It's weird you mention this as minutes before I had been thinking about this. I do believe they will falsely project the Messiah in the sky, but it won't be the real Messiah. 

I feel this will happen soon.. I can feel it in my bones. 

They want to deceive us greatly now...but innately, we will know the truth so it's pointless on their behalf :) 

 

10 hours ago, BlueSky said:

Jung's Christ a symbol of self makes more sense to me. God working through us. If ever there's a massive vision in the sky be it Jesus, Allah or a space craft. My first thought won't be something coming to help. Remember the Independence day film when a big crowd gathered on the top of a skyscraper waiting to be collected by the alien craft. It didn't end well. 

 

There will be nobody coming to save us.

That concept of Jesus coming back to save us all....did much harm.

But didn't he save us already? If that's what you call saving us. lol

 

Yeah I agree with allymisfit and people will be fooled. These are the people who would meet Jesus/Allah when they die and get conned to return to the prison.

[Illmatic]

7 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

bbc dumb arse article of the day

 

Covid drives record emissions drop in 2020

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55261902

no fkin shit sherlock

 

i'm waiting for the "record number of cashless payments" article

 

Yes, according to our overlords Covid is helping us solve the climate crisis and cash is riddled with it so we must give is up forever and transition to contactless immediately.

 

Go back to sleep everybody.