AndyJ Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I know there are a lot of important questions right now but the one I have is do the panic buyers from March still have any bog roll left? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 These days are long gone... On C4's nineties series 'The Word' there was a segment called "I'll do anything to get on TV". "You wanna be on TV? You'll have to do anything we say, including snogging grannies." All the women in care homes without any physical contact for months who are currently used for propaganda reminded me of this. Apologies in advance. I'll grab my coat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) A riposte to the creatures in the WHO Scientists Question Safety of Vaccines (WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit December 2019) 0.29 seconds ''without good science we can't have good communication'' If you don't have the 'science' then why are you rolling out vaccines on a massive scale? 0.58 seconds ''we really don't have good safety monitoring systems'' If you don't have good safety monitoring systems then how can you assess if the vaccines are safe or not? 1 minute 10 seconds ''we are not able to give clear cut answers about the deaths that have occurred with particular vaccines'' If your vaccines are killing people and you can't understand why then why are you using them? 1 minute 20 seconds ''there is some obfuscation at that level'' If you are about 'science' then why would you hide anything? Surely you should lay all the facts on the table so that science can be more accurate. By failing to do that you are anti-science 1.57 ''how do we build confidence in this?'' If you have identified that the ADJUVANTS eg aluminium are toxic to health then the question is not how you get people to maintain confidence in a toxic product the question is how you make your product non toxic or you remove it from the market altogether. Why would you look to build confidence in a product that you know is causing harm? 2 minutes 50 seconds ''[adjuvants] multiply the reactogenicity, in many instances, and therefore it seems to me that it is not unexpected if they multiply the incidence of adverse reactions that are associated with the antigen, but may not have been detected through lack of statistical power in the original studies'' If your studies lack the necessary data to identify the risks involved in your vaccine then how can you then make an accurate cost to benefit analysis? If they are causing adverse reactions and you don't fully understand why then why are you not pulling the products off the market and why did you use them in the first place? 3.20 you say you see local reactogenicity immediately after the vaccine is applied and therefore accept those as vaccine induced adverse reactions and yet sound dismissive of more long term effects which you describe as 'accusations'; that smacks of criminally negligent irresponsibility to me 5.07 ''better mechanistic understandings of how these things work'' if you don't understand the mechanisms of your own vaccines then why would you ever inject them not a live human being as you can't be sure what impact that will have on them? You are essentially using people as your guinea pigs 5.18 ''if you struggle with the length of follow up'' So you are admitting that you do not look at the long term impacts on the people you vaccinate 5.35 ''its also the subject population that you administer the adjuvant to...'' Yes that is why applying a one size fits all approach to medicine is deeply flawed and dangerous and criminally irresponsible 6.18 ''a child is being given different antigens from different companies, and these vaccines have different adjuvants and preservatives and so on....something crosses my mind...is there a possibility of these adjuvants, preservatives cross-reacting amongst themselves?'' Yes of course there is. There is also the possibility that vaccine ingredients could react synergistically with other environmental factors such as fluoride, glyphosate and even microwaves, so you have to ask yourself why this doesn't 'cross the mind' of the scientists who make the vaccines and the doctors who administer them? Are they retards or criminals? 6.36 ''has there ever been a study on the possibility of cross-reactions?'' from 6.48 Dr Chen then goes on to admit that they lack that data and want to give people barcodes which is an admission that upto now they haven't studied the possibility of cross-reactivity and also that even if they create barcodes and use them to look into that the people who are vaccinated during that time will still not have the protection of the knowledge of those studies and will be guinea pigs demonstrating that they are knowingly flying blind 7.40 Dr Chen welcomes the emergence of 'large data sets' which means large amounts of people who are acting as guinea pigs 8.47 ''in medical school you are lucky if you have a half day on vaccines'' If doctors are lucky to have a half day on vaccines then isn't it about time that we stopped referring to them as 'experts' on the subject of vaccines? I have had more than a half day on vaccines therefore i am more of an expert on vaccines than the GP's who are so eager to inject them into our children Edited December 9, 2020 by Macnamara 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 3:09 PM, Maddmoo said: Latest updates from the Mrs, removed the names and email addresses for their own good. Dear all, We have been asked as a Care Group to develop a vaccination rota of volunteer staff to administer the vaccine. The rota is expected to be a mixture of clinical and non-clinical workforce, and training will be provided for all staff who volunteer. The rota has to be cost neutral for the department, so we will be expected to deliver within our establishment. Any staff who would like to volunteer should have clearance from their line manager that they are supportive and can be released for this. There will be designated vaccination hubs across both Denmark Hill and PRUH sites – we are still waiting for confirmation of these hub bases, it is assumed Unit 2 will be the hub for Denmark Hill. The request is for the Radiology Care Group to cover 48hrs per week over an 8 week period. We are suggesting a minimum of a 4-hour shift in the first instance, so rostering is more manageable across the department. We have also assumed our week 1 will start on Monday the 14th of December. **** and ***** will coordinate the rota centrally for the Radiology Care Group, so please can you email them both with the hours you can cover over the next 8 weeks. ****@nhs.net or ****@nhs.net **** is away this week, but has requested we develop this rota to be developed in her absence. We will update you with more information as and when we get it. Thanks ***** Head of **** King’s College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust _________________ Make of all this what you will. This sentence jumped out at me from your image: "In accordance with these guidelines, tomorrow we will begin vaccinating people aged 80 and over (both inpatients who are being discharged and those with outpatient appointments) as well as care home workers and clinically vulnerable healthcare staff who are at serious illness from COVID-19." Over 80s are the first group in line. How is this going to play out with the latter groups, over 65s, over 50s, the vulnerable, etc, who visit King's, I wonder? Being self centered here, I've got an operation due at King's that's being kicked down the road due to this crap and I can foresee a scenario where they won't operate unless I take the vax... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, wingwang said: Being self centered here, I've got an operation due at King's that's being kicked down the road due to this crap and I can foresee a scenario where they won't operate unless I take the vax... Your allergic to egg's, is that right ? Edited December 10, 2020 by alexa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, alexa said: Your allergic to egg's, is that right ? Yep, I almost forgot about that! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FVCK BILLY G4TES Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Politician for the london assembly David Kurten spits facts in a great talk. Gives me hope that not all politicians are completely clueless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said: "And the Lord said, Thou shalt make tiktok videos in empty hospitals" Strange symbolism on this vid at 2:19, looks a bit sinister to me. Edited December 10, 2020 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said: Politician for the london assembly David Kurten spits facts in a great talk. Gives me hope that not all politicians are completely clueless. I listened to that clip of him speaking at the protest recently. He knows the score and hopefully he can shake things up a bit in london Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 10:14 AM, BridgeBuilder said: After 594 pages, nobody mentioned of 'Operation Moonshot'. I bet they chose 'Moon' to trigger us. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 10:14 AM, BridgeBuilder said: After 594 pages, nobody mentioned of 'Operation Moonshot'. I bet they chose 'Moon' to trigger us. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 As the UK rolls out Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine, the next stage of research begins https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-12-10/covid-vaccine-safety-monitoring-phase-4-studies/12967010 I love how they just openly and casually admit that they are using the population for research. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zArk Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Noctua said: New York legislation could make COVID-19 vaccination mandatory By FOX 5 NY Staff Published 19 hours ago Coronavirus Vaccine FOX 5 NY Facebook Twitter Print Email article (Courtesy of AstraZeneca/University of Oxford) NEW YORK - A New York lawmaker has proposed mandating vaccination against COVID-19 if not enough residents voluntarily get the shot once it is available. Assembly member Linda Rosenthal, who represents parts of Manhattan's West Side, earlier this month introduced a bill that would require the state to "safely and effectively" distribute an FDA-approved vaccine "in accordance with the department [of health]'s COVID-19 vaccination administration program," according to the language of the legislation. "While steps have been taken to reduce the spread of COVID-19, epidemiologists and public health experts have concluded that a vaccine will be necessary to develop herd immunity and ultimately stop the spread of the disease," the bill's support memo states. "[T]he State must make efforts to promote vaccination and ensure that a high enough percentage of the population is vaccinated against COVID-19 to develop sufficient immunity." Once the vaccination program has been rolled out for a while, the Department of Health would have the authority to "mandate vaccination" to anyone who can "safely receive the vaccine" if public health officials see that New Yorkers aren't developing "sufficient immunity from COVID-19." The bill doesn't define "sufficient immunity," so presumably public health officials would have to set that benchmark. HEH so if the majority honourably refuse the fantastic offer of an unrequired vaccine, the state will mandate it against 51% or more of the population heh the police/health service and army vs 51% of the population... do me a favour... its no competition its clear that at this point those saying no to the vaccine will become quite upset this is not going to be upset teenagers wearing stupid masks and holding blm/extinction rebellion/antifa flags this is the adult population... those that work hard all week, those that have children, those who put up with shit from their boss and the state day after day after day there will be a surprising outcome at this point 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jesuitsdidit Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:06 PM, Velma said: That it is all playacting? Pure theatre! Next in line Comment Re William Shakespeare ----------- Well we can't discount the possibility that it's just water. How likely that is I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 British scientists yesterday attempted to quash public panic about the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine which is currently being rolled-out across the country, following reports that two NHS staff suffered an 'anaphylactoid reaction' just after being immunised on V-Day yesterday. It reccomends anyone with allergies not to have the vaccine. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9034115/Allergy-risk-Pfizer-jab-TWO-patients-fall-ill-V-Day-rollout.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneantisworthtenofyou Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Maybe the breakdancing email harvesting Mr rose can save us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, alexa said: It reccomends anyone with allergies not to have the vaccine. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9034115/Allergy-risk-Pfizer-jab-TWO-patients-fall-ill-V-Day-rollout.html Had they conducted the lengthy clinical trials necessary to produce a vaccine, they could have established that it was unsuitable for people with allergies, before they began administering it to NHS staff and other guinea-pigs. Edited December 10, 2020 by Velma 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oneantisworthtenofyou Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, jesuitsdidit said: Comment Re William Shakespeare ----------- Well we can't discount the possibility that it's just water. How likely that is I don't know. Perhaps some of the vaccines that some people receive are extra special Perhaps all sorts of different experiments could be conducted on different groups of people all thinking they're taking the same vaccines If they can't be held accountable legally they are free to play god with genetic manipulation Some folk maybe part of secret experimental trails of genetic modification unsuspectingly helping the globalists to perfect their biological genetic control weapons and super soilders 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctua Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Velma said: Had they conducted the lengthy clinical trials neccessary to produce a vaccine, they could have established that it was unsuitable for people with allergies, before they began administering it to NHS staff and other guinea-pigs. I also am suspicious that the anaphylactic shock they experienced after the vaccine was due to their previous allergic reactions. Anyone with an allergy knows damn well to mention it to doctors. Any nurse/doctor should always ask before administering any medication whether the patient has had a previous allergic reaction. The fact that they are reporting that these two NHS (how convenient) staff had a history of allergic reactions and yet were still given the vaccine, just doesn't sound feasible to me. The only thing I am really surprised at is that they actually reported it and didn't keep it quiet. Which makes me think they are keeping something else quiet. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col22 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 hours ago, DarianF said: As the UK rolls out Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine, the next stage of research begins https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-12-10/covid-vaccine-safety-monitoring-phase-4-studies/12967010 I love how they just openly and casually admit that they are using the population for research. Yes, its like it didn't cross their minds to test for allergic reactions during the trials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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