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5 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

I don't think they're funny, but they're at least giving people like Bhakdi a platform which I think you have to commend them for.

 

I could start a Youtube channel tomorrow talking all about zionist agendas to transform the western world, I suspect I probably wouldn't make it very far. So in the current climate I think you've got to cut people a bit of slack for only going as far as they think they can go. There's plenty of uncensored opinion on Bitchute or Brand New Tube, but they're unfortunately far inferior platforms with a far smaller user base which is why many are still hanging on to Youtube for dear life.

 

I hear you. It was more the way they said it that frustrated people to be honest, but people should still check things out for info and ignore the spin, I agree that there is nothing wrong with that. I definitely don't endorse everything I share anyway.

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5 hours ago, Carol Harmer said:

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Carol Harmer said:

I work in Finance....I have been a Forex, Futures, Options and stock market trader for 38 years....It is usually my aim to predict where financial markets are going to be heading in a few days/weeks and trade accordingly...Nothing in these markets is making sense at the moment...nothing...The recession that should follow this will make anything in mankinds history look tame or a blip...However...look at the crypto currencies and Gold...they are at record highs....So I think we will, as a world, run out of money, be bankrupt, and that will induce the world to change over to crypto currencies....and then thats when the nightmare begins 

 

Gold stood at £1524 an ounce 12 weeks ago and is now down to £1396 as I type this.

 

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I hear you. It was more the way they said it that frustrated people to be honest, but people should still check things out for info and ignore the spin, I agree that there is nothing wrong with that. I definitely don't endorse everything I share anyway.

 

Yeah I get you. They don't have the best interviewing technique either. It's just that I'm seeing a lot of seeing a lot of these types who are asking some question getting a lot of stick for "not going all the way" or being "gatekeepers" or "shills". It's not a big group speaking out in any way, even slightly. I think we'd be better off focusing on the people who are pushing the reset agenda.

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3 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

I'm wondering whether in the coming weeks/months there will be a rise in deaths in care homes

because of the vaccine, but they will test the elderly person and it will be falsley attributed to

Covid.

 

Earlier this year, people were dying for all sorts of reasons, but the deaths were being falsely attributed to 'covid'.

 

The same thing will happen this time around, but the other way round: the 'vaccinated elderly' will be dying from 'natural causes', ie pneumonia, bronchitis, heart failure etc etc. Won't be any 'covid' mentioned on the death certificate, and certainly deaths won't be attributed to 'vaccination' or 'adverse reactions' either.

 

It's all about PR and marketing from this point, TPTB won't want any vaccine to be portrayed in a bad light.

 

"Sorry for your loss, but at least Granny didn't die from Covid so the vaccine works!"

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7 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Yeah I get you. They don't have the best interviewing technique either. It's just that I'm seeing a lot of seeing a lot of these types who are asking some question getting a lot of stick for "not going all the way" or being "gatekeepers" or "shills". It's not a big group speaking out in any way, even slightly. I think we'd be better off focusing on the people who are pushing the reset agenda.

 

No likes, but agreed. I haven't watched their stuff on covid to be fair.

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18 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

The same thing will happen this time around, but the other way round: the 'vaccinated elderly' will be dying from 'natural causes', ie pneumonia, bronchitis, heart failure etc etc. Won't be any 'covid' mentioned on the death certificate, and certainly deaths won't be attributed to 'vaccination' or 'adverse reactions' either.

 

 I agree G owl, they will be saying the opposite, they have to in order to save face. We can't win with these evil b**tards.:classic_angry:

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4 hours ago, numnuts said:

 

Indeed, but those who lived in that time were at least free to wander around their sheep pens. Not so now.

This is true, to a certain extent but back then, we did not have social media and 24/7 propaganda beamed through the TV. Believe me, if TPTB had tried this crap on back then, they would have had a bloody revolution on their hands. 40+ years of dumbing down have reduced the population to near dependency on the state and its fellow travellers.

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Grass roots football banned in Lancashire.

 

"This decision was taken under the professional recommendation of Public Health for Lancashire, Public Health for Blackburn and Darwen, Public Health England and the Local Resilience Forum (LRF) in Lancashire, which identifies potential risks and produces emergency plans to prevent or mitigate the impact of any incident on the local communities."

 

"Based on ONS North West data and local experience of managing outbreaks in children, Public Health England estimates that up to 1 in every 33 people could be carrying COVID-19 without symptoms in the East Lancashire areas.

 

"Dr Sakthi Karunanithi, Lancashire County Council's Director of Public Health, said: "I know that this news has been disappointing for many people, but it is important that we contain the spread of coronavirus, especially as we go into the Christmas period when more households will be mixing."

 

Full article: https://www.lancashirefa.com/news/2020/dec/06/further-update-on-lancashire-grassroots-football

 

These public health directors are not elected, and they have no legal powers to enforce this. Also notice the 33...

 

https://twitter.com/LancashireCC/status/1335630741355573250

 

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On 12/6/2020 at 8:46 PM, Velma said:

Our 'National Treasures' (euphamism for cunts) are lining up for vaccines, to set an example.

 

Esther Rantzen, Maureen Lipman, Bob Geldof, Gloria Hunningford, Eamonn Holmes, Michael Palin, Christopher Biggins and fucking Lulu.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/uk-biggest-stars-unite-declare-23121477

 

I can't stop swearing today!

 

 

 

Oh yes, you play fantasy dress up for a living and read other people's script lines all day. Wow, I'm so impressed, I'll trust you with medical advice.

 

You fkn tools.

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5 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Geldof FFS. There isn't a bandwagon he won't jump on.

 

At least fisherman won't be taking the vaccine now.  Remember his champage "Stay in the EU" flotilla

when he stuck two fingers up at the fisherman, when they sprayed his boat.  Love it.

 

SIR YOB Bob Geldof abuses hard working fisherman as his flotilla attracts fury from even his own side

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Lol really is gutter journalism there. I don't know what the lady in this video thinks she is going to achieve to be brutally honest. You could be the most eloquent well spoken person with facts and they would still twist the narrative and edit you. I bet she sat down for about an hour as well. 

 

Joe normie must be able to see this is just trying to divide. Sky really are disgusting. At least with channel 4 news (haven't watched for years and was always too lefty for me) usually put out interviews unedited a bit like the Jordan Peterson interview. 

 

I can't remember who made the comment here last month but it was brilliant about the MSM inviting you to either be pro Vax or anti. For BLM or against. With no room for intelligent public discourse. It was an excellent comment and speaks volumes to where we are at with these cretins pushing poisonous propaganda. 

 

Trying to divide us further if we haven't been already that's what I fear. The public pressure of those who want the Vax will turn to people like me who won't take it and turn on us. 

 

I had a taste of this when an elderly relative said "they won't force you to take it if you don't want it". I said what about the passports and ID cards? "You just won't be able to shop for food" he proceeded to laugh. Thanks for that mate. I didn't sleep that night. A philosophical angst overcame me about the morals and I realised this is what people can do when in fear. I wished that conversation never took place. 

 

 

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On 12/6/2020 at 9:31 PM, Golden Retriever said:

Exactly the same with my circle of friends and relatives, but I do know a private neurologist who told my mother and I, that she was paraylsed within hours of having the influenza vaccine about 5/6 years ago. She was confined to a wheelchair for almost two years and only with extensive physiotherapy and the help of her family is she now able to walk short distances unaided.  She's in her late forties.

 

Did she get a compensation payout?

 

21 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

“I’d like to emphasise the highest standards of scrutiny, safety and effectiveness of quality have been met to international standards."

 

Nah I'm good thanks. I will stick to the local, others can embrace the global. Seriously though, imagine trusting these internationalist hyenas with your life.

 

Why am I not feeling reassured...

 

17 hours ago, DarianF said:

How desperate are you to attend a football match? Desperate enough to accept a mandatory digital health passport?

 

I don't watch live football, but if I did, then I would stop going.

 

11 hours ago, Morpheus said:

I wonder how they will do this. Letters in the post asking you to book an appointment? Text, emails? Then what happens if you ignore the communications, will someone follow up? Thereafter, what will they do if you don't get it or refuse? Is this the point the stasi are sent round? Will be interesting to see how this unfolds. 

 

Covid Rangers. Let's be honest, they aren't being created to solely 'remind' over-friendly folks in the High Street about responsible social distancing.

 

3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

The same thing will happen this time around, but the other way round: the 'vaccinated elderly' will be dying from 'natural causes', ie pneumonia, bronchitis, heart failure etc etc. Won't be any 'covid' mentioned on the death certificate, and certainly deaths won't be attributed to 'vaccination' or 'adverse reactions' either.

 

We should be on hand to help conduct some dodgy PCR tests. 😀

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9 hours ago, Illmatic said:

I think there's room for skepticism about the likes of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies... but I found it interesting when shortly before this whole thing started the Fed launched their own crypto and it unsurprisingly absolutely bombed.

 

Almost like they realised the game was getting away from them so they had to press the panic button to force us all onto their new platform

 

The difference with the central bank blockchains is that they operate on their own closed blockchains whereas bitcoin is decentralised

 

Was bitcoin ever a genuine attempt to disentangle from the central banks or was it really just the gateway drug to get people hooked to cryptos?

 

Digital currency was always the goal of the NWO though because with digital currency they can monitor every single transaction as well as controlling how much digital currency everyone has in their account. They can also block transactions at the moment of sale thereby actively selecting what you are or are not permitted to purchase

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7 hours ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

An immune system overreaction causes food allergies. For egg allergy, the immune system mistakenly identifies certain egg proteins as harmful. When you or your child comes in contact with egg proteins, immune system cells (antibodies) recognize them and signal the immune system to release histamine and other chemicals that cause allergic signs and symptoms.

Both egg yolks and egg whites contain proteins that can cause allergies, but allergy to egg whites is most common.

 

The allergies have been caused by vaccinations which have used various proteins thereby making the body develop an immune response against those proteins

 

When people talk about the success of vaccines they have not accounted for all the 'non specific effects' caused by vaccines such as the rise in autoimmune disorders

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