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3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I know you are joking here but we KNOW how it started

 

It started as an exercise called EVENT 201 in which the bill and melinda gates along with john hopkins university ran an exercise for a global pandemic of a novel coronavirus

 

Immediately after the exercise the chinese announced that they were experiencing a pandemic of a novel coronavirus

 

Three things about the location of the alleged outbreak caught the attention of 'conspiracy theorists' (the term used by the media for people who don't blindly believe the official narratives) were that the epicentre of the outbreak was said to be the city of wuhan which just happened to be the pilot city in china for a FULL ROLL OUT of 5G

 

The other noteworthy things were that near to the Wuhan wet market was a biowarfare laboratory that had been linked to chinese scientists working with various bioweapons in both the US and canada who had been let go of those labs in the americas and then finally that just prior to the alleged outbreak china had held a world military games where teams from militaries all around the world had been sent to china to compete and of course if any of them had nefarious intent then the games would provide them with the perfect cover to carry out some sort of skullduggery such as releasing a bioweapon that could be transported to china in the diplomatic bag

 

Good Event 201 coverage in the intro to the Plandemic documentary: https://79days.news/watch?id=5f5fe441dc50dc07a1fbe5c1

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You wont believe this.   I just went down Lidls to get some steak.   Security guard calls me out as I walk past & I ignore him. Gets my steak walks to the credit only till

Fuck the fuck off.

Bit weird saying this. But, Merry Christmas to my friends/family on here, even though I know none of you personally. Good riddance to the sheeples. Here we stand together. So Merry Xmas & A Happy

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6 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

God, is this prick pretending to be really thick?? 

 

 

 

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“Considering the damage inflicted by lockdown measures, including unemployment, poverty, delayed surgical procedures, delayed cancer diagnosis, neglected chronic disease, social isolation, and increased mental health burden and suicides, the Swedes could still fare better with their policy than more restrictive countries in the long run – while preserving the civil liberties of their citizens.”
Dr Horst Herb, The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/gp-opinion/was-the-swedish-approach-to-covid-19-really-a-mist

 

The interviewer is a true moron.

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15 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

God, is this prick pretending to be really thick??  Props to Corbyn, he maintains his composure so well. I don't know how he does it.

 

Do you know what, I wish I was next to Piers whilst he was on this call because I'd took this clown to to town. No proof of any deaths in Africa? Sorry to say Ian, but its on the WHO website you fuckin tosser, add in he's being sued by India. And if anyone's mental its you Ian. Funny how these shit bags don't go near anyone who can construct this properly and I wish Piers would get his shit together when he does these calls because he could do some proper damage. Or is this by design? God I'm such a sceptic lately. 

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3 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Do you know what, I wish I was next to Piers whilst he was on this call because I'd took this clown to to town. No proof of any deaths in Africa? Sorry to say Ian, but its on the WHO website you fuckin that, add in he's being sued by India. And if anyone's mental its you Ian. 

 

Oh yes, but Dr. Bill's "intentions were good" I'm sure this moron would argue.

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Just now, Morpheus said:

Listen Ian, go fuck ya self and your good intentions. 😅

 

I love my computer. I don't want to punch its screen. But god help me, when I see these scumbags pushing this propaganda so blatantly, my poor computer is in mortal danger.

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27 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

God, is this prick pretending to be really thick?? 

 

 

 


All the comments below the video are absolutely SLATING Collins..
So good to see people waking up  😍 

 

And by far - more thumbs down;
 
 

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Nhs staff no longer first in line for vaccines.  Too many dissenters?

 

 

NHS staff no longer top priority for Covid vaccine despite fear of third wave

Health officials warn infections at Christmas gatherings could lead to overwhelmed hospitals

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NHS staff will no longer get the coronavirus vaccine first after a drastic rethink about who should be given priority, it emerged last night.

The new immunisation strategy is likely to disappoint and worry thousands of frontline staff – and comes amid urgent warnings from NHS chiefs that hospitals could be “overwhelmed” in January by a third wave of Covid-19 caused by mingling over Christmas.

Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said: “If we get a prolonged cold snap in January the NHS risks being overwhelmed. The Covid-19 restrictions should remain appropriately tough.

“Trust leaders are worried about the impact of looser regulations over Christmas.”

Frontline personnel were due to have the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine when the NHS starts its rollout, which is expected to be next Tuesday after the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) approved it on Wednesday.

However, hospitals will instead begin by immunising care home staff, and hospital inpatients and outpatients aged over 80. The new UK-wide guidance on priority groups was issued by the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation (JCVI) amid uncertainty over when the rest of the 5m-strong initial batch of doses that ministers ordered will reach the UK.

Boris Johnson under pressure to prioritise vaccine for care homes

 

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NHS personnel will be able to take the vaccine into care homes to immunise residents later this month if, as expected, the MHRA agrees that the batches of 975 doses it comes in can be subdivided and the stability and safety of the drug be maintained.

Dr Chaand Nagpaul, the leader of the British Medical Association, said it backed care home residents getting the jab first. However, that means NHS staff will be left at higher risk of getting infected and potentially dying, he added.

“Doctors and other healthcare staff will recognise the need to vaccinate care home residents and older patients first, but will likely be frustrated at the government’s inconsistent messaging changing from yesterday to today.

“In the first wave, we saw far too many health and social care workers become incredibly sick with Covid – with many tragically dying – and therefore those working on the frontline need to be given the opportunity to get protected early,” he said.

NHS bosses have warned the 800,000 doses that comprise the UK’s first consignment from Pfizer’s manufacturing plant in Belgium may be “the only batch we receive for some time”, raising questions about how soon further supplies will arrive and how long frontline personnel and vulnerable groups will have to wait for their two jabs.

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The change in priorities came as NHS Providers, which represents health service trusts in England, warned hospitals would struggle to maintain normal care in January if a fresh spike in infections after Christmas leads to beds again filling up with Covid patients, just as they are trying to manage their winter crisis.

NHS Providers and senior doctors made clear their anxiety that the government’s decision to allow up to three households to mix indoors in England between 23 and 27 December may prove ill-advised and backfire, because people will pass the infection on to vulnerable relatives. They pleaded with the public to exercise caution about how they socialise.

Dr Susan Crossland, the president of the Society for Acute Medicine, which represents hospital doctors, said they shared concerns “about the possibility of a Christmas wave of Covid in January, as well as the potent threat of this combined with ‘normal’ winter pressures exacerbated by cold weather”.

“In my opinion the relaxation of rules at Christmas is crass in the extreme. Combined with the bickering among politicians we have seen in recent days over the tiered system, it further weakens the importance of maintaining safety measures,” she said.

The NHS already being “on a knife-edge” due to intense demand and under-staffing means “it is the responsibility of everyone to limit contact and follow safety measures over the coming weeks and months to avoid mass stress burdening the NHS in the difficult winter months,” Crossland added.

One hospital boss said: “Normally people give their elderly relatives colds and flu and respiratory disease over Christmas and they end up in hospital in January. This year that’s more complicated. [There is a] very necessary relaxation over Christmas as people need a break, but recognise that there will potentially be an impact.” Their trust assumes January will be “really tough”, despite the vaccine’s imminent rollout, they added.

The World Health Organization on Thursday also advised that the threat of a “Christmas wave” emerging just after the new year should make people think twice before using the festive break from restrictions to attend gatherings with other people.

“We are looking, many of us, towards the holiday season, towards Christmas, whether it is called a third wave or a Christmas wave,” said Dr Hans Kluge, the WHO’s regional director for Europe. “The question we have to ask ourselves if we are going to come together, or we are thinking about an activity during which transmission can happen, we have to ask the question, is it really necessary?

“Because if the restrictive measures are being eased and the basic public health measures are not adhered to, whatever the country in the region or globally, absolutely there will be again an increase because the vaccine will come too late for this winter.”

A government spokesperson said: “This Christmas, families and friends can meet up in a limited and cautious way thanks to a balanced and workable set of rules. We agreed these UK-wide measures based on scientific and clinical advice on how best to minimise the risks, and following Sage advice we have introduced strengthened local restrictions to protect the progress gained during national restrictions and continue to suppress the virus.”

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Meanwhile, Prof Jonathan Van-Tam, England’s deputy chief medical officer, has raised the prospect of people needing annual vaccination against coronavirus, in the same way they get immunised against winter flu. It is important to have further Covid vaccines available in case revaccination is required, he told the BBC.

“It is really unknowable at this point. But it is very much something that I see now as one of the goals only just over the horizon to get my head around, what if – and if – we will at any point in the future need to think about revaccination,” he said.

 

 

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1 minute ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

 

Indeed! Very good to see so many  agreeing with Piers. I can't believe talkRadio employ such people as  Collins. 

 

Hopefully enough subscribers leaving will convince them to get rid of morons like this guy. When you see this, you can't take them seriously; and it pollutes any good content they may have.

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"Should the changes pass, providers will face a $6660 penalty for not reporting newly administered vaccines to the Australian Immunisation Register."

 

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"‘The need for the Australian Immunisation Register Amendment (Reporting) Bill 2020 arose from the need to provide Australians with information about their immunisation history, to support the rollout of a COVID-19 vaccine and the ongoing administration of the NIP [National Immunisation Program],’ he said.‘There is currently no statutory mechanism by which the Government can require vaccination providers to report all vaccines administered. Without such a mechanism on which to rely, the Government will be unable to enforce the mandatory reporting of COVID-19 vaccines administered, once a vaccine becomes available for clinical use."

 

Government to push ahead with mandatory vaccination reporting Bill

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/professional/government-to-push-ahead-with-mandatory-vaccinatio

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"Noting the significant investment to be made by the Australian Government in the purchase and introduction of a COVID-19 vaccine, and the National Immunisation Program more generally, tracking and tracing of all vaccines administered to the Australian public will be essential."

Australian Immunisation Register Amendment (Reporting) Bill 2020

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6643

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14 minutes ago, kj35 said:

NHS staff will no longer get the coronavirus vaccine first after a drastic rethink about who should be given priority, it emerged last night.

 

This translates as:

 

'NHS staff will no longer get the coronavirus vaccine first after a drastic rethink about whether they would be dumb enough to take it en masse, it emerged last night.'

 

The government can hardly afford to go to war with NHS staff right now, especially after bigging them up all year as heroes.

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I watched a few minutes of a Dateline NBC program about the vaccines. A doctor on there says that after being vaccinated, precautions against spreading the virus must still be taken because the vaccine doesn't prevent you from infecting someone else!

Interestingly, the episode was tagged as #crime #murder #mystery.

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