Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Newbiebrbr said: The public would need to wake up as a whole to avoid this which is not happening. yeah and we have been trying to immunise them against ignorance but they have been refusing their information uploads! Quote EDIT: Also, what if the vaccine just triggers an immune response? We'll sadly not know the results of this until much later when it's already too late. which is the point of long term health studies but according to the british government and its bill gates owned regulatory body we don't need to take those kind of precautions when it comes to the british public obviously we are not very important to the elites...(some of us knew that already.....its all there in our history) Edited December 4, 2020 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staeld Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Basket Case said: The News on BBC6 radio are dissing no-vaxxers every hour... I really can't listen to any BBC radio channels because of this. Even Radio 4 extra which I used to like for old comedy shows has become woke. The BBC is basically the Covid broadcasting service now. TalkSPORT is riddled with covid/vaccine propaganda and all the simp presenters are scared to say anything controversial. Laura Woods was in total ecstasy the other morning saying how happy she was that the vaccine was being released. Edited December 4, 2020 by Staeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Newbiebrbr said: I understand all of this. I get it. But I'm talking mainly about the end of the lockdown in my original comment and looking forward to that. I want to live my life to the fullest before its taken away again at 30. the lockdown will never end because the technocracy turns our country into a giant gulag in which we are constantly monitored and micro-managed and every 'smart' appliance will be feeding back data to the technocrats so that they know exactly what you are doing, saying, feeling and even thinking from one moment to the next its the death of freedom....that's what is at stake here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Newbiebrbr said: I'll be honest. I expect Agenda 2030 to be the last paving stone to the Great Reset. I do think it's too early for them to do all of this. I think this has been a grand experiment to collect lots of people behaviour for the next big thing in 2030. Lockdown cannot carry on forever. Otherwise people will wake up. I'd expect that regarding the huge debt burden built up during this crisis will simply be left alone mostly and carry on business as usual. The things you mentioned regarding petrol and diesel cars would be by 2030. Not this year. Because if they did that they probably taken the final straw. I'd probably see things as somewhere in the middle of yourself and Macnamara. I think they've now done too much damage to the old system to patch it up entirely, but if they start to get some serious pushback they will have to row it back a bit. However, even if we manage to avoid things like immunity passports and mandatory vaccines for now it will still just be a waiting game, all they'll be doing is regrouping and waiting for an opportunity to roll out the next big "crisis". They're not completely stupid, and we're not at the point yet where machines can do 99% of our jobs making us entirely obsolete. But whatever happens over the next few months it's a wake-up call, we're fighting for all our futures and all our childrens' futures here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete675 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Illmatic said: The greatest trick of the media is to make us think we are all alone and everybody is in agreement except us. We should try to remember it's all a crock of shit and its getting more obvious to everybody where their loyalties lie every single day. Au contraire, it is the media that is all alone and sinking fast. Covid/Conjob 19 seems to be oddly prevalent in their cosy, incestuous circles - with journos, celebs and politicians (and their pets) contracting it while ordinary people seem immune..most odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbiebrbr Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: the lockdown will never end because the technocracy turns our country into a giant gulag in which we are constantly monitored and micro-managed and every 'smart' appliance will be feeding back data to the technocrats so that they know exactly what you are doing, saying, feeling and even thinking from one moment to the next its the death of freedom....that's what is at stake here May as well just kill myself with the amount of doom and gloom you bring. Stop putting it all on me! I'm one man and I can't do everything no matter how much effort I put in. EDIT: So please stop... I'm literally only 20 years old dealing with as many retards in the world that the older generation didn't think to sort out. Goodnight. Edited December 4, 2020 by Newbiebrbr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Staeld said: all the simp presenters are scared to say anything controversial. Laura Wood was in total ecstasy the other morning saying how happy she was that the vaccine was being released. They have created a culture of fear where people parrot the official soundbites through pasted on smiles that's what happens when freedom of speech is destroyed. people become puppets Edited December 4, 2020 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Newbiebrbr said: May as well just kill myself with the amount of doom and gloom you bring. Stop putting it all on me! I'm one man. Goodnight. Its not on you, its on all of us That's the point of discussing it isn't it? So that we can see the problem, understand it and then take the right action to avoid it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbiebrbr Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: Its not on you, its on all of us That's the point of discussing it isn't it? So that we can see the problem, understand it and then take the right action to avoid it It's easy to say that but you literally kill my spirit for the future. I'm quiting this website, since I can't stand attending misery. Goodluck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Illmatic said: They're not completely stupid, and we're not at the point yet where machines can do 99% of our jobs making us entirely obsolete. But whatever happens over the next few months it's a wake-up call, we're fighting for all our futures and all our childrens' futures here. got no more 'likes' but totally agree automation is a problem on the horizon because then the workers become obsolete so you are right we can't rest on our laurels. We need to build an alternative to the technocracy of the elites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Newbiebrbr said: It's easy to say that but you literally kill my spirit for the future. I'm quiting this website, since I can't stand attending misery. Goodluck. maybe its not the right forum for you this one was created by a guy who is telling us the world is run by a satanic cult that is trying to merge us all with machines. Not sure how to sugar coat that goodluck Edited December 4, 2020 by Macnamara 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, pete675 said: Au contraire, it is the media that is all alone and sinking fast. Covid/Conjob 19 seems to be oddly prevalent in their cosy, incestuous circles - with journos, celebs and politicians (and their pets) contracting it while ordinary people seem immune..most odd. Sure, I totally agree with you actually. They are resorting to being paid propaganda mouthpieces for the state because they know they are fucked and independent online media is winning. Covid has been a life-saver for them, before this everyone had been switching off in their droves. It's not going to save them in the long run. Despite all this you can't deny the influence it's had. Not only has it kept some convinced that they'll die of a deadly virus if they step outside their front door, it's also made a lot of people on here believe these people are 99% of the population and nobody else is thinking like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Macnamara said: got no more 'likes' but totally agree automation is a problem on the horizon because then the workers become obsolete so you are right we can't rest on our laurels. We need to build an alternative to the technocracy of the elites Yeah, it's been a worry for quite a while. Even when they were making movies like Terminator back in the 80s it was known what was coming, but we are getting pretty close now. I've actually thought for quite a bit that Covid is possibly a psyop that's gone way further than they originally intended, mostly due to comments by Fauci and many others around the beginning of the "crisis" rejecting the idea of mandatory masks or lockdowns. I think they were probably a bit shocked by the effectiveness of their fearmongering and the actions of the general public in voluntarily demanding closure of society. It wouldn't surprise me if the original intention was only to make it a bit of a bigger SARS-type scare and push the public health agenda on just a little bit. It seems very out of line with their usual tiptoe pace. Maybe in a few years we'll see it as a blessing in disguise, an overstep that allowed for a real societal awakening. Because no matter what happens from here there are a lot of people who know now what is really going on and are never going to see the world in the same way again. Edited December 4, 2020 by Illmatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesuitsdidit Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Putin orders start of mass vaccination against Covid-19 in Russia, will begin NEXT WEEK with key workers given priority https://www.rt.com/russia/508460-putin-orders-mass-vaccination/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Illmatic said: I think they were probably a bit shocked by the effectiveness of their fearmongering and the actions of the general public in voluntarily demanding closure of society. It wouldn't surprise me if the original intention was only to make it a bit of a bigger SARS-type scare and push the public health agenda on just a little bit. It seems very out of line with their usual tiptoe pace. i think with psychopaths if you give an inch they will take a mile 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Macnamara said: i think with psychopaths if you give an inch they will take a mile Absolutely, and that's always been their downfall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) This is from Sinobiological.com. Was trying to find out about the link to infertility Spike protein-based vaccines and antiviral therapies against SARS-CoV Vaccines* Advantages Disadvantages Full-length S protein Induces effective neutralizing-antibody and T-cell responses, as well as protective immunity Might induce harmful immune responses that cause liver damage or enhanced infection DNA-based Easier to design; induces immunoglobulin G, neutralizing-antibody and T-cell responses and/or protective immunity Might have low efficacy in humans; repeated doses may cause toxicity Viral vector-based Induces neutralizing-antibody responses, protective immunity and/or T-cell responses Might induce ADE effect; possibly present pre-existing immunity Recombinant S protein-based Induces high neutralizing-antibody responses and protective immunity Mainly humoral responses; need repeated doses and adjuvants RBD Induces highly potent neutralizing-antibody and T-cell responses and protective immunity Not identified DNA-based Induces neutralizing-antibody and T-cell responses and/or protective immunity Induces low responses; might not neutralize mutants Viral vector-based Induces neutralizing-antibody responses, protective immunity and/or T-cell responses Possible genomic integration of foreign DNA; viral vector instability Recombinant RBD protein-based Safer and more effective than other RBD vaccines; induces neutralizing-antibody and T-cell responses, protective immunity and cross protection Needs repeated doses and adjuvants Edited December 4, 2020 by Bombadil Website address mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) I’m by no means an expert on the spike protein stuff in the post above. Had to look up a lot of medical terms etc. Looked into the company, all seems above board to me. If the info is correct and from a respected company/source I consider the above info and the other info on the same page to be pretty convincing argument material to not take this vaccine. I know some of you are much better researchers than I am so verification would be cool. I won’t be taking it anyway obviously. But maybe people on the fence might react to unquestionable evidence. Edited December 4, 2020 by Bombadil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Thousands Show Up To Protest de Blasio's Goons Shutting Down Mac's Public House Bar https://vidmax.com/video/199890-revolution-thousands-show-up-to-protest-de-blasio-s-goons-shutting-down-mac-s-public-house-bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jesuitsdidit Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jesuitsdidit said: 5 Interaction with other medicinal products and other forms of interactionNo interaction studies have been performed And they are the ones who need it most. No? Or will they just give it to them anyway without testing first for adverse interactions with existing Medications? Edited December 4, 2020 by jesuitsdidit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesuitsdidit Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, jesuitsdidit said: Or will they just give it to them anyway without testing first for adverse interactions with existing Medications? Maybe that is why they are expecting so many ADRs (Adverse Drug Reactions)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneantisworthtenofyou Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, wingwang said: I've spent plenty of time in hospital and the motto I always remind myself of is: "Doctors bury their mistakes." i found it interesting to discover that medical scales only weigh in metric doctors can be a bit stupid paying attention to which unit of measurement they are using easy mistake i guess :) in the past doctors using medical scales that weigh in both imperial and metric have confused metric and imperial systems taking a patients weight in one unit then giving a dosage of medication in another unit a patient was weighed to be 250lb then is given medication for someone weighing 250kg resulting in (overdose) Edited December 4, 2020 by oneantisworthtenofyou 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snail Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I just want to vent a little after being forced to be around the NPCs all day. I would be quite happy if people like us could form a kind of breakaway civilisation, because living alongside those people is impossible and intolerable. There's no getting through to them. I can barely view them as human anymore since they lack the innate spark of what it means to be a human - curiosity, the ability to search for information, to think and question - none of it is there. They pay lip service to "compassion and empathy" then spew hatred at anyone who doesn't go along with the groupthink - "one death is too many!" to "I hope you catch it an die!" in the blink of an eye. They would drag everyone down with them. There has to be a way to set to a new nation somewhere in the world, away from the insanity and evil. On another note, I know I'm "new" here (I was back on the old forum until 2012 when I went hermit for some years) and I don't post much, but I'm truly thankful you all exist! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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