Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Mikhail Liebestein]

Once the public are realing to get the vaccine l, expect scenes like this at the hospital:

 

[DarianF]

Dr. Fauci wants to test the vaccine on the adult population first, before we force it on children. He's such a caring bloke.

VIDEO: https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/fauci-it-s-going-to-be-months-before-vaccine-is-approved-for-children-96815173876

[numnuts]

6 hours ago, SimonTV said:

Those death statistics shot up in April, I checked after May and it was showing as lower than Jan 2018. As I made a series of posts pointing out that in Jan 2018 total deaths was higher than April 2020. It possible that the death counts are changed in the months that follow but i find it unlikely that they added in 30000 additional deaths since May. I would be interesting to do a FOIA to the ONS and request all the death reports and independently verify every one and the type as well. I don't trust the government one bit with these statistics. I did find out the way it works the reports are submitted from around the country on a computer system and they receive them and then do the statistics.  I don't know if dominion is running their system at ONS though.

 

All of those, who were already living right on the edge, would have sadly perished in April. This is the spike in deaths that the PTB wanted and are still, in terms of directly connecting them with Coronavirus, clinging on to. Now, with Lockdown 2, it won't have been so bad. This is why they recently plugged the 'Lockdown worked this time around' spiel. Funny how it worked better in winter, when fewer people were adhering to the rules as well.

 

3 hours ago, Shy Talk said:

This has been touched on on and off in this thread but it's probably worth bringing up again given today's announcement. There has to be a chance the initial rollout - and possibly the first few weeks' worth of what will no doubt be an over the top media extravaganza -will be a placebo in order to 1 placate a few doubters. 2 increase pressure on the rest of us. Stay firm everyone.

 

I am not saying that the PTB wouldn't do anything they thought they could get away with. They did 9/11 for God's sake. I just don't know if they could get away with that. Anyone else have a view on this point?

 

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

to be followed by a decade of action....

A Decade of Action

With just under ten years left to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals, world leaders at the SDG Summit in September 2019 called for a Decade of Action and delivery for sustainable development, and pledged to mobilize financing, enhance national implementation and strengthen institutions to achieve the Goals by the target date of 2030, leaving no one behind. The UN Secretary-General called on all sectors of society to mobilize for a decade of action on three levels: global action to secure greater leadership, more resources and smarter solutions for the Sustainable Development Goals; local action embedding the needed transitions in the policies, budgets, institutions and regulatory frameworks of governments, cities and local authorities; and people action, including by youth, civil society, the media, the private sector, unions, academia and other stakeholders, to generate an unstoppable movement pushing for the required transformations.

 

https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

 

The way Guterres was talking earlier on today, I got the impression that the PTB want to declare a Western NWO sooner rather than later. Like pre-2023.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

money is irrelevant in a digital world because its not pegged to anything and therefore its an abstraction. thats why no expense will be spared to get the vaccines into you

 

Indeed and the lure of personal debt reduction will be used to gain support for giving up what little sovereignty we have left.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

in magic there is a technique called 'bud will' where the magician seeks, whilst in the correct state of consciousness, to pass their desired wish into their subconscious. The desired wish then manifests into our 'physical' reality. lets consider that television places a person into an alpha brainwave states which is a suggestive, hypnagogic state into which symbols and ideas can be passed into the subconscious of the viewer so that they may then manifest into our physical reality

 

This is why the PTB always introduce unpopular notions into the public consciousness, via the mass media, with a 'it will never happen though' caveat attached. Cancelling Brexit being a prime example. Literally all of this year, Laura 'OT Cheese Grater' Kuenssberg has begun every Brexit progress report with 'Don't forget we have already left sheeple!'. Well, until not so long ago, when she dropped that line. Hmm... 

 

1 hour ago, Shy Talk said:

This may deserve another thread, but ever since this obvious attempt to transform society started I've been wondering about all those ancestry/23andme etc businesses that suddenly appeared a few years ago, asking for your DNA in return for a vague stab at where you may have come from.

 

For sure, and this was discussed on the old forum. Personally, I think that Peloton is also a PTB front, with sinister motives.

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

The host Karlie Kloss, who replaced Heidi Klum, is married to Joshua Kushner, Jared’s brother.

 

Another judge, Elaine Welteroth, seems like a blatant Marxist too.

 

It’s a club, and you’re not a member.

[DarianF]

"If someone is going to have a bad reaction to a vaccine, it is likely to occur in the first six weeks after vaccination, according to medical experts. But experts still don’t know the long-term effects of the vaccines and won’t know until after the trials are completed and researchers monitor participants in the real world for years after."  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/12/02/covid-vaccine-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-what-to-know/6476436002/

[oneantisworthtenofyou]

 

[oddsnsods]

Will an RNA Vaccine Permanently Alter My DNA?

https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/11/27/will-an-rna-vaccine-permanently-alter-my-dna/

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[DarianF]

14 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

 

I bet it has something to do with the easing of advertising restrictions:

 

4. Vaccine promotion

 

"Currently there is a prohibition on promoting an unlicensed medicine to healthcare professionals and the public. The UK government is proposing that this prohibition is disapplied to allow (subject to the other restrictions in the HMRs) advertising of any temporarily authorised products under regulation 174, including a COVID-19 vaccine. There will also be amendments to allow for some easements from the other restrictions in Part 14 of the HMRs – for example the prohibition on advertising prescription-only medicines. Some of these restrictions – which deal essentially with advertisements to the public, are already disapplied in the case of vaccination campaigns, and that approach is extended to all products given temporary authorisations under regulation 174. The disapplications would be restricted to advertising as part of a campaign approved by ministers and would permit the supplier to participate in any public or healthcare professional information campaign relating to the use of the medicine. These amendments on the easement of advertising restrictions are not limited to unlicensed vaccines only, but are intended to apply to all the public health purposes that would justify temporary authorisation of the distribution of an unlicensed vaccine or other treatment listed in regulation 174. This means that, in relation to medicines advertising, the permitted campaigns could relate to any medicinal product use in response to “…the suspected or confirmed spread of… pathogenic agents… toxins… chemical agents or…nuclear radiation…”. A number of changes have also been made to the special requirements for advertisements wholly or mainly directed at qualified prescribers. These have also been adapted to take into account the new arrangements for temporary authorisations. Overall, the amendments proposed will ensure that the use of the vaccine and treatments that have been temporarily authorised for sale or supply can be promoted as part of national campaigns in each of the 4 countries of the UK."

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines#vaccine-promotion

[DarianF]

7 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

well who needs safety studies when it's only the genetic coding of the british people  at stake?

 

your genetic coding is only the thing passed down by your ancestors going all the way back to the first and is only the thing that you then use to construct your children and every successive generation of your descendants for the rest of time so why not play fast and loose with it?

 

who needs longterm health studies anyway?

 

Perhaps it's just a 'coincidence' that the British Government has decided to go with a Chinese company that specializes in DNA data and sequencing, to manage all Covid rapid testing on the UK population – including the English Premier League.

[EnigmaticWorld]

26 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

I bet it has something to do with the easing of advertising restrictions:

 

4. Vaccine promotion

 

"Currently there is a prohibition on promoting an unlicensed medicine to healthcare professionals and the public. The UK government is proposing that this prohibition is disapplied to allow (subject to the other restrictions in the HMRs) advertising of any temporarily authorised products under regulation 174, including a COVID-19 vaccine. There will also be amendments to allow for some easements from the other restrictions in Part 14 of the HMRs – for example the prohibition on advertising prescription-only medicines. Some of these restrictions – which deal essentially with advertisements to the public, are already disapplied in the case of vaccination campaigns, and that approach is extended to all products given temporary authorisations under regulation 174. The disapplications would be restricted to advertising as part of a campaign approved by ministers and would permit the supplier to participate in any public or healthcare professional information campaign relating to the use of the medicine. These amendments on the easement of advertising restrictions are not limited to unlicensed vaccines only, but are intended to apply to all the public health purposes that would justify temporary authorisation of the distribution of an unlicensed vaccine or other treatment listed in regulation 174. This means that, in relation to medicines advertising, the permitted campaigns could relate to any medicinal product use in response to “…the suspected or confirmed spread of… pathogenic agents… toxins… chemical agents or…nuclear radiation…”. A number of changes have also been made to the special requirements for advertisements wholly or mainly directed at qualified prescribers. These have also been adapted to take into account the new arrangements for temporary authorisations. Overall, the amendments proposed will ensure that the use of the vaccine and treatments that have been temporarily authorised for sale or supply can be promoted as part of national campaigns in each of the 4 countries of the UK."

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines#vaccine-promotion

 

No reactions, but good point.

[DarianF]

6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

No reactions, but good point.

 

Here is another version (I think this is the updated version):

 

5. Promotion

 

"We proposed to make amendments to ensure that vaccines and treatments used in response to a public health emergency, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, could be promoted as part of national vaccination or treatment campaigns. Some respondents expressed concerns about individual pharmaceutical companies advertising these products to the public. This included comments on advertising bias, and the generation of profit from promoting the vaccines which many stated would be unethical. These proposals are not designed to facilitate promotion by individual pharmaceutical companies. Rather, they are designed to facilitate government-backed public or healthcare professional information campaigns relating to the use of these medicines. The campaigns have a critical public health role and are not intended to promote or 'sell' the vaccine, which will be free at point of care. The promotion of unlicensed medicines will remain prohibited, unless it is in accordance with the safeguards proposed in this consultation. Pharmaceutical company materials must be approved in advance by ministers. They would only permit a medicine supplier to participate in public or healthcare professional campaigns relating to the use of a given product. They would not allow the supplier to promote a product independently unless the limitations required for any medicinal product are adhered to. If the campaigns relate to Scotland or Wales, a clarificatory amendment has been made to make it clear that the Scottish and Welsh governments will be consulted before approval is given. Northern Ireland is already a joint signatory to the legislation. Some respondents stated that promotion should be balanced and informed, put forward the benefits and risks, and address vaccine myths. DHSC, in collaboration with NHS England and Improvement (NHSE-I) and Public Health England (PHE) are currently developing plans to ensure the public in England receive high quality information from trusted sources on any COVID-19 vaccine when it is deployed. Some respondents emphasised that any promotion or advertising by suppliers should fall within the principles set out in the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI) code of practice for the Pharmaceutical Industry, 2019. These proposals do not change the important role of self-regulation in the control of medicines advertising. There was some confusion as to whether the proposals related to advertising to qualified prescribers or to the general public. To clarify, these proposals relate to both advertising to the public and materials targeted at health care professionals."

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/outcome/government-response-consultation-on-changes-to-the-human-medicines-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines#promotion

[DarianF]

Grab the popcorn for this one ...

 

 

[BossCrow]

Sorry if this was posted already-

 

[DarianF]

1 minute ago, BossCrow said:

Sorry if this was posted already-

 

 

This is deeply sick shit.

[DarianF]

 

NOTE: Yes, she does confirm that infants will be targeted for the vaccine early next year. INFANTS!

Edited December 3, 2020 by DarianF
Additional comment

[DarianF]

 

Transcript:

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-12-01/debates/27DE3E44-807A-4596-AD7C-946314AC3E2A/details#contribution-069FF0BE-677F-4F87-9583-B423A1CAC05D

[DarianF]

"The sooner, the better," said Dr. Flor Munoz-Rivas, an associate professor of pediatric infectious disease at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. Given early data gathered in late-stage adult trials, which include thousands of participants, vaccine developers could launch trials for older children ages 12 to 17, she said. If a vaccine appears safe and effective in this group, the trials could then continue in younger and younger children. In a commentary, published Sep. 18 in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, Munoz-Rivas and her colleagues argue that coronavirus vaccine trials for children "should begin now." To delay such trials could mean delaying "our recovery from COVID-19 and unnecessarily prolong[ing] its impact upon children's education, health and emotional well-being," they wrote."

https://www.livescience.com/children-coronavirus-vaccines.html

[DarianF]

9 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

As in the Telegraph today.

 

Covid Liberation Day is coming, and Britain should be the first to declare it

 

Boris must accelerate the rollout of the vaccine, and end lockdown when the vulnerable are protected

 

ALLISTER HEATH

 

Rejoice, rejoice: after a calamitous year, Covid Liberation Day is finally in sight. We don’t quite know when it will be yet, and Boris Johnson is seeking to manage expectations, to emphasise that there are still dark, deadly winter weeks ahead. But our stunningly early approval of the vaccine offers the tantalising prospect of a full return to normality by Easter, and ideally even earlier....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/02/covid-liberation-day-coming-britain-should-first-declare/

 

[alexa]

 

3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

@EnigmaticWorld Just change the name Santa to Satan, this is pure evil at it's finest.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orange Alert]

9 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

They claimed 18 months for their vaccine, done in half the time.

 

If ever they said as well, then three come along with high levels of protection.

 

 

 

Scientists fear the hunt for a coronavirus vaccine will fail and we will all have to live with the 'constant threat' of COVID-19

Adam Bienkov

Apr 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

 

Scientists fear that it may prove impossible to produce a working coronavirus vaccine and believe the world may have to simply learn to adapt to the permanent threat of COVID-19.

The UK's Chief Medical Officer, Christopher Whitty, told a Parliamentary committee on Friday that there was "concerning" evidence suggesting that it may not be possible to stimulate immunity to the virus.

"The first question we do not know is 'do you get natural immunity to this disease if you have had it, for a prolonged period of time?'" Whitty said.

"Now if we don't then it doesn't make a vaccine impossible but it makes it much less likely and we simply don't know yet.

 

Doubts about the possibility of a viable vaccine are based largely on the fact that no vaccine has ever been approved for use in the US or UK against other forms of coronavirus.

Whitty told the committee the evidence from other forms of coronavirus was that "immunity [to the virus] wanes relatively quickly."

He said that the world needs "to be careful that we don't assume that we are going to have a vaccine for this disease as we have had for, let's say measles, which once you have it you're protected for life."

"We cannot guarantee success," he added.

"Vaccines are looked for, for every infectious disease, they are not found for all of them."

The World Health Organisation on Saturday also threw doubt on the possibility that immunity to the virus could be induced.

In a statement about plans by some governments to introduce so-called "immunity passports," for those previously infected with the virus the organisation said in a statement that: "there is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection."

Other scientists have also raised the possibility that a working virus may never emerge to deal with COVID-19.

In an interview with The Observer David Nabarro, professor of global health at Imperial College, London said the world had to realise that a vaccine may not be possible.

"You don't necessarily develop a vaccine that is safe and effective against every virus," he told the paper.

"Some viruses are very, very difficult when it comes to vaccine development - so for the foreseeable future, we are going to have to find ways to go about our lives with this virus as a constant threat."

Even if a fully effective vaccine proves impossible, Whitty believes that a partially effective vaccine would still be worth pursuing.

"You can have vaccines that are not capable of providing [high levels of] immunity, but they provide enough protection that people don't get severe disease. 

"So we might get a vaccine that is rather less effective but is sufficiently effective, that if we vaccinated everyone at a high level of dying from this... we might well be able to massively reduce fatalities even if there was still natural infections."

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-vaccine-may-be-impossible-to-produce-scientists-covid-2020-4?op=1&r=US&IR=T

[wingwang]

Just for the record. Scumbags aint even hiding it...

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55163009

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by wingwang

[alexa]

Military carry out dry run for UK's biggest-ever vaccination programme as locations of 50 hospitals where jabs will be rolled out from next week are revealed - but care homes will have to WAIT because vaccine packs cannot be separated

Initial batches of the Pfizer/BioNTech jab are already heading to Britain after it was approved by UK regulators

Vaccine will be distributed at hospitals first, and then GPs and city hubs in stadiums and conference centres 

The UK has ordered 40million doses in total, with 10m due by the end of 2020 and the rest coming next year 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9010097/Pfizer-jab-distributed-hospitals-GP-surgeries-stadiums.html

[alexa]

 

+21

A lorry leaves Pfizer's manufacturing plant in Puurs, Belgium, after the American firm's Covid-19 vaccine was approved in the UK. It's not clear if the lorry pictured was transporting the jabs

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/12/02/2638727228942170943/640x360_MP4_2638727228942170943.mp4

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by alexa

[rideforever]

I am so fucking pissed off with this evil.

But you know what ... the braindead sheep of the world, they have no life without their fucking phones and belief systems.  Without injecting themselves they don't exist, because they have no life anymore.

That is the sad goddam truth.

 

 

2 weeks ago the Sun and Mail started exposing the lies behind the Uk Gov's fucking statistics.  Now the drugs have been pushed through even faster before people wake up.

Edited December 3, 2020 by rideforever