webtrekker Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Trump's first move in office (if he wasn't just another in a long line of owned puppet actors without a speck of discretionary choice) should have been to tear up the Biden Fauci pardon. Make it a big deal too. Indict Biden as complicit and arrest both Biden and Fauci. Totally owned!! Make America The Same Or Worse (MATSOW). Trump can't do that, unfortunately. No new President can reverse pre-emptive pardons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 16 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: In my mind the most absurd idea is the head of a huge crime syndicate (US gov) issuing pardons to his co-conspirators. Are we to believe Biden was/is above reproach himself to sit on some high horse and craft clemencies for unrepenting mass murderers? What next..Trump issuing a pardon for Biden's systematic thievery, lies, and incitements, encouraging folk to get vaxxed? One thing is made clear by all these clusters of pardons across the millenia, the USA government has been a crime syndicate almost from day one. Honest governments don't pardon hardened killers of their constituents and don't issue clemencies for drug czars that conspire to poison and kill their consituents, they try them and sentence them. The whole reason we have a collective judicial redress process is to prevent folks from taking the law into their own hands. If any of us plain folk took syringes filled with toxic waste and assaulted citizens randomly and massively with those, we would be most detested as we sat on death row and described by mainstream media as monsters that make the savageries of Gingus Khan pale by comparison. If we assured our victims that the needles were to save them from a greater invisible killer that doesn't really exist, we get a presidential pardon. Enjoy your stay in clownworld y'all. Trump is now advocating mrna vax, something he previously spoke against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: We are at the mercies of world swarms of transgenerational masters of illusion. To illustrate this reality, lets think of another thing that is subliminally suggested in the Fauci pardon. The pardon assumes a robust judiciary working their fingers to the bone trying to dig up something incriminating on Fauci. Suggesting an obsession bordering on mental instability. The pardon is a metaphorical way for big daddy warbucks to put his foot down and order a cessation of this obsession of finding Fauci at fault during AIDS and covid. Leave our 'hero' alone. Poor man is being inconvenienced by all the nonsense misinformation. Law enforcement are put to sleep with such mantras. Obtaining salaries under false pretenses is in the law books. You see, another subliminal suggestion is that if anything exists to incriminate Fauci it must be rare, obscure, trivial, so, let's cover that possibility. The subliminal suggestion is that the judicial and it's enforcement arms are not owned. That they represent a constant threat to unlawful behavior. Competant. Nothing was more obvious during the commission of the covid crime of genocide than the total dereliction of those processes. Police and courts, judges...out to lunch...many owning pharma stock..took a powder as they say in gangster lingo. Owned. The pardon suggests the judiciary and it's enforcement/intelligence arms are competant and vigilent, not totally owned. The pardon is a psychological grooming political tool. The biggest assumption made by this worthless pardon is that the hoardes taking the law into their own hands for lack of a functional public redress mechanism won't simply wipe their behinds with any presidential pardons, that's the big assumption here, that the paper will have any shred of value when time comes for the entrenched devils to face the music. Great observation. They have separated "the creation of the virus" from "the response to the virus". Fauci's pardon was for the creation but as it happens it also encompasses the response. As such they have created a dichotomy in the mind of the sheep that it is impossible to bridge. If you remember, in the middle of the shitshow, we were all screaming about the response... and all the Americans were doing is complaining about Fauci's coverup of the Chinese lab. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, webtrekker said: Trump can't do that, unfortunately. No new President can reverse pre-emptive pardons. Yes but Biden did not pardon himself. If they really wanted to, they could go after him. But they will not. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Pfizer used a ghostwriter to explain away the “hot lots,” the deadly batches of covid vaccines https://expose-news.com/2025/01/23/pfizer-used-a-ghostwriter/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Trump's first move in office (if he wasn't just another in a long line of owned puppet actors without a speck of discretionary choice) should have been to tear up the Biden Fauci pardon. Make it a big deal too. Indict Biden as complicit and arrest both Biden and Fauci. Totally owned!! Make America The Same Or Worse (MATSOW). That pardon worked wonderfully for Trump and his bosses. When his voters would expect him and RFKjr to go after Tony F, it would have created many problems with his own part in it. Now he can say Fauci has been pardoned before he had chance to deal with it, end of discussion, all loose ends tied, few grumbles from voters, business is business, meh blah blah. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 A presidential pardon has no power in a prosecution by the International Criminal Court. Which is where Fauci should be tried. His deadly advice incited people all over the world. In fact, the presidential pardon applies only to federal crimes. Individual states within the union can prosecute a felon regardless if he carries a presidential pardon. When I think of all the needless suffering and death and economic chaos fuelled by that man's use of his medical credentials to incite people to get culled mercilessly. I consider the presidential pardon an affront to every ideal of civilization and justice. Monumental corruption that goes right up to the top. Fauci was a facilitator of genocide and economic pandemonium but receives leniency from the highest office in the USA. Trump doesn't even clean the feces off that throne before sitting on it himself. Totally disgusting. Make america great...yeah, right...start by making america a civilized nation first then once out of the sewers, aim for greatness. Otherwise it's just a big pile of sugar coated manure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 20 minutes ago, NeoScota said: That pardon worked wonderfully for Trump and his bosses. When his voters would expect him and RFKjr to go after Tony F, it would have created many problems with his own part in it. Now he can say Fauci has been pardoned before he had chance to deal with it, end of discussion, all loose ends tied, few grumbles from voters, business is business, meh blah blah. There is the International Criminal Court and any country on earth could have Fauci extradited and tried. These crimes are international crimes, not just an issue facing Americans. Fauci was a central international figure greasing the wheels of that horrific murder spree. I find it very odd this conspicuous absence of outrage from the international community. Just so much more evidence that national sovereignties are bogus. Not one nation dares step out of line and non fail to tow the line. An astonishing thing to observe. Edited January 23 by Avoiceinthecrowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: A presidential pardon has no power in a prosecution by the International Criminal Court. Which is where Fauci should be tried. His deadly advice incited people all over the world. In fact, the presidential pardon applies only to federal crimes. Individual states within the union can prosecute a felon regardless if he carries a presidential pardon. When I think of all the needless suffering and death and economic chaos fuelled by that man's use of his medical credentials to incite people to get culled mercilessly. I consider the presidential pardon an affront to every ideal of civilization and justice. Monumental corruption that goes right up to the top. Fauci was a facilitator of genocide and economic pandemonium but receives leniency from the highest office in the USA. Trump doesn't even clean the feces off that throne before sitting on it himself. Totally disgusting. Make america great...yeah, right...start by making america a civilized nation first then once out of the sewers, aim for greatness. Otherwise it's just a big pile of sugar coated manure. Anno. Astonishing is the word. But then with all the laws broken by Is-nae-real as their lil genocide carries on, and for all the telling off, all those condemning it in these meetings, it still goes on. It's a global rot for sure, because they are all on board with the global cull. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) The devil's advocate just stepped in the door and offers this in defence of Fauci... Fauci did not forcibly inject people. Fauci did not manufacture the contents of those witch's brews. Fauci did not pin down people and force them to wear masks and he never assaulted anyone for breaching the social distancing rules and he never showed up at people's homes with police to break up a curfew party at christmas where the allowable quota of people had been breached. In fact, all he did was show his face on the telly and influence people to go along with the protocols by vouching for their efficacy. That, of course can be interpreted as benevolent unless it can be clearly demonstrated he knew there was harm involved. Good luck proving what anybody thought in a trial. Now, that's how the devils advocate would frame his opening statements. So, seen from the devil's advocate point of view, a pardon for Fauci becomes actionable slander and wreckless endangerment of that man. You see, as damning and angering it was to hear the authorities claim they never forced a jab on anyone and considering the immense pressures brought to bear to force compliance, legally speaking it was still a personal choice. In court that aspect would eat up the lion's share of debate and cause outrage drama in the courtroom. The devil's advocate just parks his engines on the fact that people were not forced and let the ensuing pandemonium play in his favour. He would sit firm on the fact that jabs were a matter of choice regardless how devastating or irresponsible the choice was. He will argue that choice was still there. Did Fauci request or lobby for a pardon..nope. Did Fauci ever express himself in ways suggesting he needed a pardon? It just materialized. So, you learned folk reading this...don't be surprised to see Fauci sue for damages to his reputation caused by any insinuation of guilt built into the pardon. Perhaps that's how they planned to give him his retirement treasure before he falls off the public radar for good. Who knows. They never tell us mortals anything. Ok...I'm stepping out of the devil's advocate character now..whew..was making me ill Edited January 24 by Avoiceinthecrowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 46 minutes ago, NeoScota said: ...It's a global rot for sure, because they are all on board with the global cull. For my part I see a world decomposing further and further as we approach critical levels of irresponsibility on the part of the masses which is inviting every manner of the most vile opportunists to feed on. We (the people) are the ones that need to reign in our derelictions and start taking our responsibilities more seriously. We let these nightmares grow as we luxuriated and worshipped scientific prowess and ideological decay, moral drift and abandonment of ethics. When we close down the opportunities the devils will migrate back to the murkey depths from where our complacency hailed them from. We allow things that make us sick. Does anyone think the utilities would have blacked out the whole world for refusing smartmeters? Would heathy and fit of mind and body need most of those pharma toxins? If anyone...anyone at all..was watching and guarding the public treasuries would we be so destitute and feeling helpless in the face of big money? We have the power and we can take it back without one shot fired or anyone hurt. We must stop waiting for opportunists to make our lives better, thats not up to them. The first and most critical step is closing down public schools. Thats a main pillar of the evil. Eavesdropping our dialogue is the second pillar. We have seen enough branch trimmers, lets see some razor-sharp axes striking roots for a change. Protect our youth because they are our future. The way we treat them now is disgraceful..criminal even..satanic. Edited January 24 by Avoiceinthecrowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 13 hours ago, RobinJ said: Trump is now advocating mrna vax, something he previously spoke against. They are transfering vast amounts of public treasure in that direction. Another swindle that further expands the pool of billionnaires worldwide. Doesn't mean anything will come of it. It's just another scientific longcon racket. The whole mrna thing could be bogus from day one. Invented to pad the coffers of unscrupulous scientific researchers. If we had to prove mrna is a valid claim, how would we go about that? The evidence of it's existance could have been contrived. Saying it is some kind of exotic gene therapy shot enables them to charge more per dose. Thats part of the racket too. Personally, I think mrna is a fully bogus claim. Edited January 24 by Avoiceinthecrowd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: The devil's advocate just stepped in the door and offers this in defence of Fauci... Fauci did not forcibly inject people. Fauci did not manufacture the contents of those witch's brews. Fauci did not pin down people and force them to wear masks and he never assaulted anyone for breaching the social distancing rules and he never showed up at people's homes with police to break up a curfew party at christmas where the allowable quota of people had been breached. In fact, all he did was show his face on the telly and influence people to go along with the protocols by vouching for their efficacy. That, of course can be interpreted as benevolent unless it can be clearly demonstrated he knew there was harm involved. Good luck proving what anybody thought in a trial. Now, that's how the devils advocate would frame his opening statements. So, seen from the devil's advocate point of view, a pardon for Fauci becomes actionable slander and wreckless endangerment of that man. You see, as damning and angering it was to hear the authorities claim they never forced a jab on anyone and considering the immense pressures brought to bear to force compliance, legally speaking it was still a personal choice. In court that aspect would eat up the lion's share of debate and cause outrage drama in the courtroom. The devil's advocate just parks his engines on the fact that people were not forced and let the ensuing pandemonium play in his favour. He would sit firm on the fact that jabs were a matter of choice regardless how devastating or irresponsible the choice was. He will argue that choice was still there. Did Fauci request or lobby for a pardon..nope. Did Fauci ever express himself in ways suggesting he needed a pardon? It just materialized. So, you learned folk reading this...don't be surprised to see Fauci sue for damages to his reputation caused by any insinuation of guilt built into the pardon. Perhaps that's how they planned to give him his retirement treasure before he falls off the public radar for good. Who knows. They never tell us mortals anything. Ok...I'm stepping out of the devil's advocate character now..whew..was making me ill He didn't have to accept the pardon which is an admission of guilt. A J6 hostage didn't accept the pardon from Trump. But I have also mulled over the valid argument that people could have said no to the jab. They prob wanted to but others went along with it when it needed to be more standing together saying no for it to be effective. Tptb would have calculated this likely response also, so there's some gaslighting going on too. Kudos to anyone who said no and lost job and house. Unsung heros. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: They are transfering vast amounts of public treasure in that direction. Another swindle that further expands the pool of billionnaires worldwide. Doesn't mean anything will come of it. It's just another scientific longcon racket. The whole mrna thing could be bogus from day one. Invented to pad the coffers of unscrupulous scientific researchers. If we had to prove mrna is a valid claim, how would we go about that? The evidence of it's existance could have been contrived. Saying it is some kind of exotic gene therapy shot enables them to charge more per dose. Thats part of the racket too. Personally, I think mrna is a fully bogus claim. Well no mrna was found in shots just graphene according to la Quinta Columna. I remember reading about mrna and they initially called it gene editing....guess that sounded too obvious and it was swapped for therapy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, NeoScota said: He didn't have to accept the pardon which is an admission of guilt. A J6 hostage didn't accept the pardon from Trump. Very interesting point. In my mind the most perplexing cluster of pardons was President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam War draft dodgers. 200,000 pardons. What were we being told there? That refusal to go was criminal but understandable and forgivable? Or were these pardons an admission by the government that the draft and the war had been contrived, deliberate and a crime against humanity? I recall Herbert Hoover's nearly 4000 pardons issued during his short presidency and without knowing precisely I assume a few of those pardons were directed at people accused of being communist sympathisers during the so-called Cold War era witch hunt crusades. Only two presidents never issued clemency orders during their tenure. I believe they were president Garfield and president Harrison. I was tempted to think that was back when crime was taken seriously and the notion of a free pass obscure but history tells us the notion of a royal pardon is not a new thing. Didn't the Pope also issue clemencies for certain types of heretics? Is clemency old as the earth? Adam and Eve were granted no such pardon for transgressing that holiest of ordinances not to eat from the apple tree? If anyone ever deserved a pardon right? Apples are tasty and boost immunity and metabolic efficiency. That part of the Bible had to be a pharma edit. Eat the fruit of the poisoned tree instead. Edited January 24 by Avoiceinthecrowd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, NeoScota said: Well no mrna was found in shots just graphene according to la Quinta Columna. Because of it's (graphene) potential as a binary weapon when exposed to microwave energy I find this claim more plausible. Nanoparticulate structures building in the bloodstream in accordance with emf stimulus. The issue I have with certain exotic claims like gene therapy/editing mrna is they are often uttered by pathological liars adept at obtaining big grants with sophisticated illusions and tricky peer review papers. Especially if pharma is heavily invested and encourages any or all research whether imagined or not to justify charging a small fortune for the shots. The more it appears exotic the more they can charge. We are confronted on all sides by master illusionists proven liars. Nobody is guarding the public treasury. Billions being funneled into bogus research pretexts. The threshold of evidence just keeps dropping. My minds stays open but my skepticism switchboards light up like a christmas tree around claims that push a simple and even perhaps reasonable thing to the furthest reaches of science fiction. Take that liquified graphene for instance...then recall X-Files alien black goo episodes Edited January 24 by Avoiceinthecrowd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsika Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: legally speaking it was still a personal choice. What about the "Informed Consent" aspect - (I suppose it was just assumed that those lining up for their jabs were giving "consent" but for sure it wasn't "Informed" - at least I don't know of one single recipient whose jabber gave any info about the jab and none were asked to sign anything). The stage 3 safety trials of the emergency only approved experimental vax weren't even due to end until Jan 2023 I think - 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, Katsika said: What about the "Informed Consent" aspect - (I suppose it was just assumed that those lining up for their jabs were giving "consent" but for sure it wasn't "Informed" - at least I don't know of one single recipient whose jabber gave any info about the jab and none were asked to sign anything). The stage 3 safety trials of the emergency only approved experimental vax weren't even due to end until Jan 2023 I think - My mother (may she RIP) was jabbed in a visit to her flat. Nurses came in produced the needle, jabbed and left. No paperwork or discusiion at all. It was all over in less than a minute 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) I understand that legions of injured or maimed jab recipients, stewing hot at the events of the covid half-decade and would very much appreciate some kind of closure like the prosecution of Anthony Fauci. One important facet here is the fact that pharma influencers are seen all over television pushing drugs that are jam-packed with adverse reactions yet not a soul wants to see those tried. Fauci is just a celebrity figure representing a widespread yet questionable practice of promoting harmful stuff. In a high profile prosecution with pharma harm as the centerpiece we can expect pharma will liberally bankroll Fauci's defense resulting in the defendant's corner looking like a legal battalion. A huge wall of intrepid and seasoned litigators. The legal equivalent of a scorched earth policy. To start, in purely legalistic terms, plaintiffs must prove that they suffered loss or injury because they believed Fauci's endorcements and took all the jabs offered. Good luck pinning the injury or loss on Fauci in any court of law, civil or criminal. The judge is bound by the rule of law. All of it spinning on that crucial hub of reasonable doubt and perhaps a sceance to invoke the ghost of that beloved reasonable man we should all emmulate. Fauci's legal battalion will hypothesize that it was perhaps some unrelated preexisting condition that might be responsible for the suffering and loss. The legal ballion will work that reasonable doubt like packs of hungry wolves. Greasing the hub of reasonable doubt until even the plaintiffs start believing it too. The finest plausible denial brigade money can buy, flown in from the four corners. Try introducing mediacized evidence refuted in the mainstream as disinformation into the court record. All of it would collide with a tsunami of objections. Ultimately, after epic legal orations from both sides, the evidence seen by us as damning becomes inadmissible in that other perspective dimension. Every medical opinion or utterance must originate from a court-approved expert to be considered a valid entry to the record. If that were not enough, we must imagine the drama of selecting a judge that the public respects...do any of those still exist? So, in the end, the plaintiffs would experience firsthand what a scorched earth attack feels like. A magistral defeat compounded by a Fauci countersuit for punitive damages. In the final analysis and considering the elements outlined above, seems the pardon can be seen also as a tool to spare us seeing this class of obliterating legal defeat. Edited January 24 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Professor of Evidence Based Medicine at the University of Oxford, Carl Heneghan, criticises Chris Whitty’s choices during the Covid-19 pandemic. “You didn’t do your job… did more harm than good!” England’s chief medical officer has told the UK Covid-19 Inquiry it was “volunteer spirit” which drove the success of the UK’s vaccination programme during the pandemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimonTV Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I noticed my father started stuttering never struggled with speaking in my life. Stuttering has been described as a symptom of stroke in both the dominant1-7 and nondominant2,5,8-10 hemispheres, and in all lobes except the occipital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, SimonTV said: I noticed my father started stuttering never struggled with speaking in my life. Stuttering has been described as a symptom of stroke in both the dominant1-7 and nondominant2,5,8-10 hemispheres, and in all lobes except the occipital. It could also be a parkinsons symptom. Get it checked out soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 15 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Because of it's (graphene) potential as a binary weapon when exposed to microwave energy I find this claim more plausible. Nanoparticulate structures building in the bloodstream in accordance with emf stimulus. The issue I have with certain exotic claims like gene therapy/editing mrna is they are often uttered by pathological liars adept at obtaining big grants with sophisticated illusions and tricky peer review papers. Especially if pharma is heavily invested and encourages any or all research whether imagined or not to justify charging a small fortune for the shots. The more it appears exotic the more they can charge. We are confronted on all sides by master illusionists proven liars. Nobody is guarding the public treasury. Billions being funneled into bogus research pretexts. The threshold of evidence just keeps dropping. My minds stays open but my skepticism switchboards light up like a christmas tree around claims that push a simple and even perhaps reasonable thing to the furthest reaches of science fiction. Take that liquified graphene for instance...then recall X-Files alien black goo episodes My bad, I remember they also found other bots of tech in them, stuff that explains the mac addresses. Either way, they're conducting electricity and the signal is radiating them from the inside out 24/7/365. I have done my own scanning and the unidentified mac addresses are something else. Can't connect to them either. If they have this micro tech in them, then they are capable of reprogramming DNA and the spike protein BS without any mRNA in the jabs themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, SimonTV said: I noticed my father started stuttering never struggled with speaking in my life. Stuttering has been described as a symptom of stroke in both the dominant1-7 and nondominant2,5,8-10 hemispheres, and in all lobes except the occipital. I'm having stroke symptoms prob cos of cervical spine issues but who knows if it's shedding or actual stroke. I'm saying the wrong words, like I have DEI temps now running my brain. It's quite funny but also not. Please keep eye on your dad and his face, and heavy arms. If his face droops, but can still raise his eyebrows evenly its not bells palsy. That nasolabial fold from nose to corner of mouth will disappear/look flat along with drooping/lopsided mouth. Praying for him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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