Mr H Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 14 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: And how real pain is It is a real experience, and the majority find it unpleasant. But ultimately you cannot be harmed by pain, nor fear. I'd prefer to read a book admittedly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 https://rumble.com/v53b37f-hidden-influence-the-forces-that-convinced-so-many-david-charalambous.html?mref=umbzp&mc=dprv6 Hidden Influence: David Charalambous shows how beliefs are installed and then defended. He will demonstrates how false beliefs were created during the "pandemic", and how those beliefs formed an unconscious web that then drove behaviour and thinking. David is a behaviour and communication expert and founder of ReachingPeople.net, a project dedicated to helping people communicate with those of differing views and showing people how institutions and corporations manipulate us. He has spent the last four years assisting many groups in understanding how governments and institutions have used behavioural science knowledge to influence people. David believes we can improve our effectiveness by understanding certain principles of behaviour and communication 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted July 26, 2024 Author Share Posted July 26, 2024 God knows. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24479849.teenage-girl-taken-hospital-suspected-medical-episode/ 'Teenage girl taken to hospital after 'suspected medical episode'.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XelNaga Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 13 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Humanity is a creation within a creation. If you look at the physical world and it's flowers and butterflies and puffy white clouds you see evidence of love everywhere. At least in my mind, majoritarily. I find man is the creature that imports injustice and strife and needless suffering. This said, and returning to your stated premise, we can wonder if both the physical earth and it's inhabitants are the result of two distict and seperate creative architects. The physical world designed with love and confered to AI for management and perhaps another creator specializing in designing humans and managing the ratios of humans predisposed to good and/or bad behaviour. Whatever the case, though, there must be plenty of controversy to keep us interested and I believe the creator or creators considered this when deciding the ratios. Of course this is speculation based on how I would manage creation if it was my design. I agree with you that humans are the beings, who among other things, bring the most evil to this place. But on the other side, in Mother Nature, there is so much unimaginable cruelty, within plant, insect and especially animal life. If this place is a school for us to grow, learn and evolve, for example, why create prey and predator animals, where pray animals get torn apart alive. Imagine the pain! It has nothing to do with love, and nothing to do with us. Some would say it's the circle of life, it needs to happen for this place to function properly, but we are speaking here about the almighty, alpowerful, benevolent creator. Surely "he" could have designed it differently. I think Gnostics are right... 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XelNaga Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 13 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Reflecting on the species normally described as disease vectors. Rats, bats, birds, mosquitos, swine, cows, cats and dogs, maybe even ferrets but never mad-snake or reptile-flu. Might be because we seldom encounter them. Not often enough to pin a hoax pandemic on perhaps. Just guessing at the reasons why but the conspicuous absence of reptilian-to-human disease may conceal a truth of some kind. After reading this post of yours, I got a crazy ringing sound in my right ear. Think of it what you will PS: some say that unusual ringing in ones ear is a message of sort, left ear meaning one thing and right ear the other thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, XelNaga said: But on the other side, in Mother Nature, there is so much unimaginable cruelty, within plant, insect and especially animal life. These may not be sentient creatures that experience pain as we do. For all we know the pain we can observe them experiencing is a simulacronic mimickry of authentic pain and the poor things are just projections. In a simulacron (simulated reality processor) there can exist humans that have this same window-dressing characteristic as their creature counterparts. Synth beings and creatures do not feel emotion and most likely pain either, what would be the point, but they must not betray that they are different because the whole idea is selling the reality to those sentients experiencing the construct. Speculation, granted, I know, but this time driven, at least in my mind, by mounting and compelling circumstantial evidence and a teaspoon of inductive reasoning. Wild eh? Edited July 26, 2024 by Avoiceinthecrowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XelNaga Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 14 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: These may not be sentient creatures that experience pain as we do. For all we know the pain we can observe them experiencing is a simulacronic mimickry of authentic pain and the poor things are just projections. In a simulacron (simulated reality processor) there can exist humans that have this same window-dressing characteristic as their creature counterparts. Synth beings and creatures do not feel emotion and most likely pain either, what would be the point, but they must not betray that they are different because the whole idea is selling the reality to those sentients experiencing the construct. Speculation, granted, I know, but this time driven, at least in my mind, by mounting and compelling circumstantial evidence and a teaspoon of inductive reasoning. Wild eh? Interesting idea. If I understood you, animals are like NPC's. But trust me my friend, my beloved dog Luna, experiences almost all emotions as myself. When you look into her eyes, there is something there, something greater, something "divine". PS: you can find online videos of animals crying and getting depressed after their animal friends die, or when their "owner" (I would say guardian) dies. They even cry at their graves. Something is seriously wrong with this part of the creation, in my humble opinion. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XelNaga Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 It could even be that it is our mission, our duty, to fix this creation, maybe that is the reason why we came here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, XelNaga said: Interesting idea. If I understood you, animals are like NPC's. But trust me my friend, my beloved dog Luna, experiences almost all emotions as myself. When you look into her eyes, there is something there, something greater, something "divine". PS: you can find online videos of animals crying and getting depressed after their animal friends die, or when their "owner" (I would say guardian) dies. They even cry at their graves. Something is seriously wrong with this part of the creation, in my humble opinion. Crows practice funeral rites but is the actual mourning aspect of the ritual a mimickery? Feelings we mistakenly attribute to them because they are going through motions we associate with grieving? As for the dog, well, knowing what they will eat makes me seriously question whether they feel anything, please don't press me into providing examples, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 25 minutes ago, XelNaga said: It could even be that it is our mission, our duty, to fix this creation, maybe that is the reason why we came here. My guess is we are here to contemplate and apply our will to shaping the path in our journey of self discovery. This broken world you describe is exactly the way we like it. Make it too easy and people will grow to hate that. Make it too hard and they will abandon it in droves. Controversy is critical to our feelings of having accomplished something and surmounting those obstacles gives meaning to our lives. Utopians rarely consider this primal need of our species and I suspect there may be, as part of the creation design, a hardwired mechanism monitoring controversy levels and adjusting seamlessly to prevent stagnation or a full derailment of civilization. Mankind always seems to recover no matter how disturbed the optimal balance has become. This place is a serious piece of work, that much I am certain. All this to say that perhaps the world is not really broken but just chugging along mocking our longings for stability. We thrive in worlds filled with obstacles to overcome. Edited July 26, 2024 by Avoiceinthecrowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 11 hours ago, Mr H said: I love cat food, so personally I'm pretty sorted My cats are raw fed with a species appropriate diet. You'd love it (well, perhaps not the mice and quail) - lots of chicken beef and pork, plus liver and kidney and bones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 Moderna Confirms Link Between COVID mRNA Vaccines and Cancer By The Exposé on July 26, 2024 https://expose-news.com/2024/07/26/moderna-confirms-link-between-covid-mrna-vaccines-and-cancer/ Interesting video! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjm9gez8e8mo The BBC explains why everyone is feeling grotty. More total bullshit for the masses to ingest and then regurgitate. Got to keep that wagon rolling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Yoyo said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjm9gez8e8mo The BBC explains why everyone is feeling grotty. More total bullshit for the masses to ingest and then regurgitate. Got to keep that wagon rolling. The proverbial rollercoaster racing down the tracks for mile after mile yet never really goes anywhere. An infinite looping of ups and downs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 10 hours ago, Mr H said: https://rumble.com/v53b37f-hidden-influence-the-forces-that-convinced-so-many-david-charalambous.html?mref=umbzp&mc=dprv6 Hidden Influence: David Charalambous shows how beliefs are installed and then defended. He will demonstrates how false beliefs were created during the "pandemic", and how those beliefs formed an unconscious web that then drove behaviour and thinking. David is a behaviour and communication expert and founder of ReachingPeople.net, a project dedicated to helping people communicate with those of differing views and showing people how institutions and corporations manipulate us. He has spent the last four years assisting many groups in understanding how governments and institutions have used behavioural science knowledge to influence people. David believes we can improve our effectiveness by understanding certain principles of behaviour and communication Brilliant presentation. The psychological version of the David Icke quote 'and you think the few cannot control the many, it is a doddle mate'. This presentation and Mattias Desmut's work explain what happened in a complete sense. Interesting that once again a number of around 20% crops up where David Charalambous says that 20% are beyond the brainwashing. That rough figure of 15-20% crops up time and again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsika Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 10 hours ago, XelNaga said: But on the other side, in Mother Nature, there is so much unimaginable cruelty, within plant, insect and especially animal life. When left alone, Mother Nature represents an exquisite "way to be". I have to admit I am glad I'm not e.g. an antelope and prey to a hungry lion that needs to find food for himself and his family, but generally speaking animals kill for a good reason. The various amazing birds then come to clean up. Ants are always busy and reveal a great deal about the quality of the current and future season. Again generally speaking, large and small felines have mastered the art of a quick and clean kill however I daresay domestic cats kind of enjoy tormenting the small mouse because they are not living a natural life. May I ask what you see as unimaginable cruelty with plants life? The Hyena gets a very bad rap as far as I am concerned 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 10 hours ago, XelNaga said: Interesting idea. If I understood you, animals are like NPC's. But trust me my friend, my beloved dog Luna, experiences almost all emotions as myself. When you look into her eyes, there is something there, something greater, something "divine". PS: you can find online videos of animals crying and getting depressed after their animal friends die, or when their "owner" (I would say guardian) dies. They even cry at their graves. Something is seriously wrong with this part of the creation, in my humble opinion. This is so true. I literally fell in love with a dog who is owned by someone I did work for. I looked into her eyes and I saw what I thought to be a human staring back at me. She’d get excited and jump on me bowling me over everytime I saw her, I’d always spend time making a fuss of her and larking around, and we’d both be sad at the end of every workday when I had to leave. She was amazing, a big bulldog/staff cross I think. I still miss her to this day. Totally changed the way I think about dogs. Also, a while ago I was shooting at pigeons that were destroying my food crops. I killed one, and instead of dumping the body I decided to scoop out the breast meat, sauté it up with some onions and garlic for my dinner. It was quite delicious, but it’s mate-another pigeon, was following me around when I went outside. It could sense I had its partner in my belly, and would just perch next to me wherever I went. After eating it somehow I felt like I’d tuned into the birds, I saw a flock of pigeons and felt their movements, felt the trees and the wind like a bird would. It was weird, and made me not want to shoot these creatures anymore. They have emotions and intelligence. To this day that pigeons partner has made its new nest right outside my house, and isn’t scared of me. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) Have you noticed that dogs (in general) always have the same mood and are always happy to see you? Edited July 27, 2024 by Freaky Dragonfly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 Legislation should be passed to control the abuse of “nudging” techniques that can border on psychological and even physical torture https://expose-news.com/2024/07/27/legislation-should-be-passed-to-control-the-abuse-of-nudging/ Peter Hotez Calls On NATO And Homeland Security To ‘Deal’ With ‘Anti-Vaxxers’ https://principia-scientific.com/peter-hotez-shill-for-pharma-calls-on-nato-and-homeland-security-to-deal-with-anti-vaccine-aggression/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XelNaga Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 4 hours ago, Katsika said: When left alone, Mother Nature represents an exquisite "way to be". I have to admit I am glad I'm not e.g. an antelope and prey to a hungry lion that needs to find food for himself and his family, but generally speaking animals kill for a good reason. The various amazing birds then come to clean up. Ants are always busy and reveal a great deal about the quality of the current and future season. Again generally speaking, large and small felines have mastered the art of a quick and clean kill however I daresay domestic cats kind of enjoy tormenting the small mouse because they are not living a natural life. May I ask what you see as unimaginable cruelty with plants life? The Hyena gets a very bad rap as far as I am concerned Poisonous plants The fact that they are poisonous shows that even they, life with lovest level of consciousness on this planet, wants to live and protect itself. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frankieboy Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 What's wrong with the world, mama? People livin' like they ain't got no mamas I think the whole world's addicted to the drama Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma Overseas, yeah, we tryna stop terrorism But we still got terrorists here livin' In the USA, the big CIA The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK But if you only have love for your own race Then you only leave space to discriminate And to discriminate only generates hate And when you hate, then you're bound to get irate, yeah Madness is what you demonstrate And that's exactly how anger works and operates Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight Take control of your mind and meditate Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all People killin', people dyin' Children hurt, hear them cryin' Can you practice what you preach Or would you turn the other cheek? Father, Father, Father, help us Send some guidance from above 'Cause people got me, got me questionin' Where is the love (love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love, the love, the love? It just ain't the same, old ways have changed New days are strange, is the world insane? If love and peace are so strong Why are there pieces of love that don't belong? Nations droppin' bombs Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young So ask yourself, is the lovin' really gone? So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin' in Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug If you never know truth then you never know love Where's the love, y'all, come on? (I don't know) Where's the truth, y'all, come on? (I don't know) Where's the love, y'all? People killin', people dyin' Children hurt, hear them cryin' Can you practice what you preach Or would you turn the other cheek? Father, Father, Father, help us Send some guidance from above 'Cause people got me, got me questionin' Where is the love (love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love? (The love) Where is the love, the love, the love? I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder Most of us only care about money makin' Selfishness got us followin' the wrong direction Wrong information always shown by the media Negative images is the main criteria Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema, yo' Whatever happened to the values of humanity? Whatever happened to the fairness and equality? Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under Gotta keep my faith alive 'til love is found Now ask yourself Where is the love? Where is the love? Where is the love? Where is the love? Father, Father, Father, help us Send some guidance from above 'Cause people got me, got me questionin' Where is the love? Sing with me y'all (one world, one world) We only got (one world, one world) That's all we got (one world, one world) And something's wrong with it (yeah) Something's wrong with it (yeah) Something's wrong with the wo-wo-world, yeah We only got (one world, one world) That's all we got (one world, one world) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 (edited) Have any of you seen this fine piece of predictive programming from the 1992 Barcelona Olympic games? 28 years before the covid scam was hoisted on humanity. A ship sailing on a sea of cells and attacked by viruses and a black hydra representing the goo they were injecting into people. Circular virus-like orbs with spike-like sword-wielding corpses in the virus swinging wildly as it attacks the ship ; It's the other bookend to the London Olympics gloom and doom spectacular. Edited July 28, 2024 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 On 7/26/2024 at 11:16 PM, Freaky Dragonfly said: Moderna Confirms Link Between COVID mRNA Vaccines and Cancer By The Exposé on July 26, 2024 https://expose-news.com/2024/07/26/moderna-confirms-link-between-covid-mrna-vaccines-and-cancer/ Interesting video! Yes. Now same companies want to bring us MRNA cancer vaccines. After giving folks cancer. Crazy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Mr H said: Yes. Now same companies want to bring us MRNA cancer vaccines. After giving folks cancer. Crazy It's mindboggling how much status and prestige and reverance these charlatans enjoy in the company of their peers in their sphere of like-minded and monied interests. A big private bubble of hypocracy and hubris. People outside that bubble simply are unworthy of the considerations normally extended to respectable folk. The best of them are psychiatrists that help the lost masses find their way, ushering the sheep to slaughter without a second thought. Edited July 29, 2024 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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