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Re short fat Police, they could be the non-English-speaking "people" who are here to beat us up. BTW there are lots of people wearing Police uniforms who are not Police.

 

Re Flu jab early December, I had an uncle who was a very Senior Civil Servant and when he was about 85 he suddenly got cancer and died after 6 months. He absolutely refused point blank to get the Flu shot even though very ill. Ever since I have surmised that the Flu vaccine is a depopulation tool for the elderly.

He was very fit and would have gone on for another 10 years to help his arthritic wife. Very disciplined with his diet and health.

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6 minutes ago, jesuitsdidit said:

the Flu vaccine is a depopulation tool for the elderly.

He was very fit and would have gone on for another 10 years to help his arthritic wife. Very disciplined with his diet and health.

 

The version given to over 65s is four times stronger than the basic version. 

 

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20 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

It is?

I still won't be  getting it.

Since flu has vanished now what would be the point 😉

 

So are we saying there was nothing and it was all just media-hype? Plus a few orchestrated cases like PM BJ for show?

 

Or a more deadly version induced by last year's Flu vaccine?

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If anyone has not seen this great information on the masks. Here you go:

 

An Evidence Based Scientific Analysis of Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

 

Small excerpt from link:

 

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-10-10-an-evidence-based-scientific-analysis-of-why-masks-are-ineffective-unnecessary-and-harmful/

 

Public Health Authorities changed their minds, but the science did not change. So, what changed their minds?

More than 40 years of science has consistently concluded that masks don’t work. No new science emerged to counter this conclusion. So, what is the basis for the change in direction that emerged from our public health experts?

 

The following is the Twitter post from Deborah Cohen, UK correspondent for BBC Newsnight and 2019 British Journalism Award winner, indicates that her investigation of the WHO change from not recommending masks to recommending masks had everything to do with politics and lobbying:

Deborah Cohen @deb_cohen

Medically qualified, UK Correspondent @BBCNewsnight | 2019 British Journalism Award winner

“We had been told by various sources WHO committee reviewing the evidence had not backed masks but they recommended them due to political lobbying. This point was put to WHO who did not deny. We said some people think we should not wait for RCTs before putting policies in place”

4:25 AM · Jul 12, 2020

The ineffectiveness of face masks in stemming the spread of viral respiratory diseases, including Covid-19, is widely known and acknowledged in the scientific and medical literature and scientific communities. Therefore, it seems that the transition in public health recommendations to promote widespread mask mandates was based on a combination of low-level observational studies, speculative mechanistic studies, fear, and, most of all, POLITICS, NOT SCIENCE.

 

To clear up the confusion, I will argue that the scientific evidence not only does not support the community wearing of face masks, but the evidence shows that healthy people wearing face masks pose serious health risks to wearers.

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9 minutes ago, jesuitsdidit said:

Apparently Flu used to be called 'The Old Man's Friend' presumably because it carted you off when you got too decrepit saving one years of decline.

But of course Rockefeller Medicine had to jump in and upset the balance..!

 

I have been researching Germ Theory and Terrain Theory lately and it is quite amazing to find that possibly viruses aren't even transferred from human to human:

 

Covid Assumptions Are Based On FearNot Fact

 

– Viruses Come From Inside The Body, Not From Outside The Body

 

The biggest assumption of this entire scamdemic is that viruses are indiscriminate killers which can cross species and jump bodies through the air to infect people. In fact, the nature of the humble virus has been totally misunderstood by mainstream science, fueled by the Medical Industry which promotes germ theory and the myth of contagion to keep you in fear and to raise demand for its toxic products (Big Pharma petrochemical drugs and vaccines).

 

If You Tell A Lie Big Enough, Often Enough, Many Will Come To Believe It.

 

You May Know The latest Lie As Covid19. Viruses Are Not Alive, Viruses

 

Are Not Contagious. Viruses Cannot Be Transmitted Between People.

 

– Viruses are created from within your cells; they do not come from outside the body

 

– They arise as a result of systemic toxicity, not because the body has been invaded
by an external threat

 

– Viruses dissolve toxic matter when body tissue is too toxic for living bacteria or microbes
to feed upon without being poisoned to death. Without viruses, the human
body couldn’t achieve homeostasis and sustain itself in the face of systemic toxicity

 

– Viruses are very specific. They dissolve specific tissues in the body. They do this
with the assistance of antibodies

 

– The more toxicity you have in your body, the more viral activity you will have

 

– The only vector transmission of a virus is through blood transfusion or vaccines;
otherwise, viruses cannot infect you by jumping from one body to another

 

– Viruses are discriminatory by nature, made by the body for a specific purpose.
They are not indiscriminate killers

 

– The RT-PCR test (PCR test for short) observes genetic material left over by the
virus, not the virus itself

Elliott B Spruill

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15 minutes ago, jesuitsdidit said:

Or a more deadly version induced by last year's Flu vaccine?

The new flu vaccine in Italy used from January 2019 onwards contained four different influenzas, including the H1N1 flu virus. [A lot of this vaccination program, with four strains of flu, would have gone into elderly people with weak immune systems.] This vaccine was grown in Madin-Darby canine kidney cells, which to say it was grown in dog cells. Dogs carry coronaviruses

 

https://www.marktaliano.net/dr-judy-mikovits-exposes-the-covid-scam/

 

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16 minutes ago, Thoth001 said:

 

I have been researching Germ Theory and Terrain Theory lately and it is quite amazing to find that possibly viruses aren't even transferred from human to human:

 

Covid Assumptions Are Based On FearNot Fact

 

– Viruses Come From Inside The Body, Not From Outside The Body

 

The biggest assumption of this entire scamdemic is that viruses are indiscriminate killers which can cross species and jump bodies through the air to infect people. In fact, the nature of the humble virus has been totally misunderstood by mainstream science, fueled by the Medical Industry which promotes germ theory and the myth of contagion to keep you in fear and to raise demand for its toxic products (Big Pharma petrochemical drugs and vaccines).

 

If You Tell A Lie Big Enough, Often Enough, Many Will Come To Believe It.

 

You May Know The latest Lie As Covid19. Viruses Are Not Alive, Viruses

 

Are Not Contagious. Viruses Cannot Be Transmitted Between People.

 

– Viruses are created from within your cells; they do not come from outside the body

 

– They arise as a result of systemic toxicity, not because the body has been invaded
by an external threat

 

– Viruses dissolve toxic matter when body tissue is too toxic for living bacteria or microbes
to feed upon without being poisoned to death. Without viruses, the human
body couldn’t achieve homeostasis and sustain itself in the face of systemic toxicity

 

– Viruses are very specific. They dissolve specific tissues in the body. They do this
with the assistance of antibodies

 

– The more toxicity you have in your body, the more viral activity you will have

 

– The only vector transmission of a virus is through blood transfusion or vaccines;
otherwise, viruses cannot infect you by jumping from one body to another

 

– Viruses are discriminatory by nature, made by the body for a specific purpose.
They are not indiscriminate killers

 

– The RT-PCR test (PCR test for short) observes genetic material left over by the
virus, not the virus itself

Elliott B Spruill

 

Yeah I've read about this and it's very interesting. Still yet to make a conclusion.

 

Think this forms the basis around the using of koch's postulates - it is the gold standard but in reality can never be applied to viruses - leads onto the argument of whether the virus theory is legit or not.

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2 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

Yeah I've read about this and it's very interesting. Still yet to make a conclusion.

 

Think this forms the basis around the using of koch's postulates - it is the gold standard but in reality can never be applied to viruses - leads onto the argument of whether the virus theory is legit or not.

 

This vid is pretty in depth on it. 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Thoth001 said:

If anyone has not seen this great information on the masks. Here you go:

 

An Evidence Based Scientific Analysis of Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

 

Small excerpt from link:

 

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-10-10-an-evidence-based-scientific-analysis-of-why-masks-are-ineffective-unnecessary-and-harmful/

 

Public Health Authorities changed their minds, but the science did not change. So, what changed their minds?

More than 40 years of science has consistently concluded that masks don’t work. No new science emerged to counter this conclusion. So, what is the basis for the change in direction that emerged from our public health experts?

 

The following is the Twitter post from Deborah Cohen, UK correspondent for BBC Newsnight and 2019 British Journalism Award winner, indicates that her investigation of the WHO change from not recommending masks to recommending masks had everything to do with politics and lobbying:

Deborah Cohen @deb_cohen

Medically qualified, UK Correspondent @BBCNewsnight | 2019 British Journalism Award winner

“We had been told by various sources WHO committee reviewing the evidence had not backed masks but they recommended them due to political lobbying. This point was put to WHO who did not deny. We said some people think we should not wait for RCTs before putting policies in place”

4:25 AM · Jul 12, 2020

The ineffectiveness of face masks in stemming the spread of viral respiratory diseases, including Covid-19, is widely known and acknowledged in the scientific and medical literature and scientific communities. Therefore, it seems that the transition in public health recommendations to promote widespread mask mandates was based on a combination of low-level observational studies, speculative mechanistic studies, fear, and, most of all, POLITICS, NOT SCIENCE.

 

To clear up the confusion, I will argue that the scientific evidence not only does not support the community wearing of face masks, but the evidence shows that healthy people wearing face masks pose serious health risks to wearers.

That is an extremely  useful  resource.

 

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38 minutes ago, Thoth001 said:

 

This vid is pretty in depth on it. 

 

 

Thanks will take a look later.

 

Been looking at the other side of the argument also, that the virus has been identified and the questioning of whether using koch's postulates is relevant. Some info on this side of the argument here Sigh, yes, the 'COVID virus' is real - Virology Down Under

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Something has been bugging me. This ChAdOx1 vaccine. Yes the date on the vials on the news was March 2020.

 

But, and excuse if I am being a bit simple here, but I put ChAdOx1 into Google Patents and it goes back years and is included in lots of different patents.

 

Is it that ChAdOx1 is not its full name for this Covid-19 one?

 

https://patents.google.com/?q="chadox1"&oq="chadox1"

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The Covid data spies paid to know ALL your secrets: Town halls harvest millions of highly personal details including if you're being unfaithful or having unsafe sex
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8994911/Town-halls-harvest-millions-personal-details-including-youre-unfaithful-debt.html

 

'A private firm inked deals with local authorities to gather data that can be used to predict who is likely to break lockdown, creating risk analyses for households'

 

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41 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Thanks will take a look later.

 

Been looking at the other side of the argument also, that the virus has been identified and the questioning of whether using koch's postulates is relevant. Some info on this side of the argument here Sigh, yes, the 'COVID virus' is real - Virology Down Under

 

Well, Well sure the virus is real but it may be the 5G that is putting the poison in the people to bring the virus out to clean the cells up. Not to mention all the poisons in the food,water and air.

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