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9 hours ago, Mr H said:

 

Yeah totally!

 

I was trying really to make a general point. Is that it seems like a lot of these people are damned if they do and damned if they don't because "everything" is a conspiracy.

 

I may have been wrong on this occasion, maybe not. But I don't subscribe to everyone in positions of power is evil, more so, knowingly acting evil.

 

Another point, is even if it is controlled opposition, there is nothing to say we can't use it to our advantage. IF that was a set up, but it's the only thing in the main stream news that might agitate a programmed mind, I have no problem with it.

 

Its just a bit rich when people here state emphatically that such and such is so!  No ‘imo’, no ‘maybe’; so many ‘it just is’!

Smacks of propaganda - just like the other lot saying old rona is real and that’s that.

 

Im not having a go at Velma personally, not at all, but it was not “The “old lady” appears to be nothing other than a brown coat being bundled into a police van. At no point is her face visible. Curiously, everyone seemed to know her age, which they made sure was audible on the video.”

 

There are very clear photos of her. And perhaps she or her friend told her age.

 

Walker states in the vid that they saw it happening from a window; he came to see what was going on, and was outraged by it - as anyone would have been.

Bad acting?  Geez.

 

Plenty of rotund plods around.

 

Maybe all the ‘crisis actors’ are people with nothing much to do and like to protest.

 

Etc etc.

 

I have no idea if it was ‘staged’ or not.

 

I do agree with what you’ve said; big ups for coming back to say it 👍

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, smashstuff said:

Just went to local DIY shop, wanted some paint stripper, something to do you know?  Lady acting as bouncer at the door, 'Have you got a mask', I say no, she tries to foist one upon me, I said I'm not wearing a mask, I just want to buy some stuff, then it was you'll have to wait until other customers have left, 10 max in shop or something, I just swore and left.

 

At this point, I don't give a shit if these mask loving fucks line up for their vaccinations, I'm sick of 99% of humanity.  I don't go out much because of this shite, and it seems to be getting fucking worse.

 

With you all the way Stuffsmasher......still haven't worn a mask and never will.

Won't be taking Satan's poison either unless half a dozen men are holding me down to do it.

As for the sheep.......they make me vomit.

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19 hours ago, kj35 said:

I got chucked out of the doctors surgery yesterday for not wearing a mask. I have a genuine 100% unquestionable reason for being exempt.  Both medical and psychological. When I explained to the receptionist that i was exempt she sneered at me and chucked me out. Then slagged me off to the nurse (I could see through the window) that I had been meant to see. Now. This would make a fantastic lawsuit to take the nhs to court as it's not because I think face nappies are shit. Which they are. It's a total unquestionable reason for not being able to wear one in line with the government guidelines. And yet this medically untrained idiot chucked me out of the surgery....

 

 

I,too have a perfectly unquestionable reason for being exempt.

But the problem is always with the uneducated who don't read law or guidelines properly and tell me off or rather they tell the wrong version as the guideline which means that they are making up. I had a numerous run ins with G4S goons, they insist that the government guidline states that I have to carry an exempt card. Another thing about carrying a knife or tools. I've read the guidline about carrying knives and the tool I carry is like 1 inch. This woman at a bus stop tell me that I am breaking the law. F off. I read the guidline, I even showed a blade...more like craft knife....lol to the police and he though I was going take out a great big knife from my bag. lol Anyway, he was fine with that but my point is that I get told off for their ignorance!!

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29 minutes ago, jonesthepost said:

 

Its just a bit rich when people here state emphatically that such and such is so!  No ‘imo’, no ‘maybe’; so many ‘it just is’!

Smacks of propaganda - just like the other lot saying old rona is real and that’s that.

 

Im not having a go at Velma personally, not at all, but it was not “The “old lady” appears to be nothing other than a brown coat being bundled into a police van. At no point is her face visible. Curiously, everyone seemed to know her age, which they made sure was audible on the video.”

 

There are very clear photos of her. And perhaps she or her friend told her age.

 

Walker states in the vid that they saw it happening from a window; he came to see what was going on, and was outraged by it - as anyone would have been.

Bad acting?  Geez.

 

Plenty of rotund plods around.

 

Maybe all the ‘crisis actors’ are people with nothing much to do and like to protest.

 

Etc etc.

 

I have no idea if it was ‘staged’ or not.

 

I do agree with what you’ve said; big ups for coming back to say it 👍

 

 

 

 

I don't know the post you refer to Jones but I am being very mindful too of the misinformation being shown to make us awake people react and get angry which takes our eyes off the real enemies.

 

For example (not a complete list)

 

No emergence of John and Caroline Kennedy at Trump's election campaign 

 

No exposure of satanic paedophiles or in fact any qanon promises

 

Misquoting the Cambridge professor say white lives don't matter when she and as actually saying all lives matter the same as a lot of people were

 

Saying its 5g then its not a virus at all then it is but its not strong (doesn't matter what matters is the complete abuse of government power)

 

All of these things caused masses of debate and distraction 

 

While we awake people get caught up in knots with this stuff we don't collectively shout and come together about some of the undisputed facts...like this government giving contracts worth hundreds of millions to their mates and backhanders from mates for them to do so. Making the ministers and doctors involved declare their business and money interests e.g. vallance 600k gsk shares rishi sunak and his moderna funding in his previous job, whitty and his millions in funding from bill gates .....has Boris Johnson ever been held to account for the missing millions for the garden bridge....acting illegally by giving his mistress a contract whilst mayor.....illegally proroguing parliament etc etc etc. These are actual bona fide facts in public domain yet no one holds these people to account.  Lord sumption at least raises the matters but surely some legal minds must know a way to force those in parliament and sage to be held accountable 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

agreed, they want to have everyone vaccinated by April!

 

To vaccinate approx 70 million people within 5 months.....there's going to be some turbulence ahead

 

We are not even going there.

 

Surely, if everyone is informed of the government FOI should be enough that there is no Covid/pandemic. End of.

If people still wanted lockdown and vaccine, I doubt they still have brain.

 

The next question people should be asking is 1) what were they testing for? 2) what vaccines have they been producing? 3) will the government compensate for people who lost job and business due to illegal lockdown?

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9/11 gets me the same way....reams and reams of stuff being written about.....its totally irrelevant at this moment in time...it happened 19 years ago ...it doesnt matter who did or didnt do it...what matters is that i stand a very good chance of not achieving 3 score and 10 if i follow what the elected government in my country have planned for me

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14 hours ago, magu said:

wiithout the internet we wouldn't be anywhere near the level of understanding we are presently at...inherently the internet is the most major advance in human discovery in perhaps the last 500 years...i think perhaps a better solution would be to reverse the government interference in it and either disband/destroy /or some other means of curtailing them, all of the government agencies involved in the efforts to  censor reasoned discussion,,,,,we could also use the collaborators to decorate lamposts across the land in a festival of gaiety for the coming wimterval and as a warning to others

 

Here is a good thing about living in duality.

Back in 70s, 80s, they may have set up the internet as a mean to surveillance us in the future while selling it as an entertainment tool. It's backfiring now. lol When they introduce something evil, there is always a flip side....we'll flip our evilness too them. LOL

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8 hours ago, Niknik said:

Other than these factors it is difficult to explain the rampant sheepery surrounding me which is isolating me totally from the herd.

This is my whole point, the internet is creating sheep out of human beings.

How ?  Because it constantly programmes them with the global sheep culture.

They never have the ability to be themselves.  Their own indentity (soul) is dying.

They are all dying and simply become robots.

You have PTSD, congratulations ... pain I am afraid is a requirement to wake up.  Run with it.

 

Awakening

By the way, I hear people on here all the time talking about "Awakening".

This is a disgraceful use of this word.  Awakening is what Buddha did meaning he learnt the meditation techniques and after terrifying struggling entered and immortal state.

What you have done is work out that .. politicians and hidden forces are evil.

Which is pretty ... basic information.  That's all people have been talking about since Ancient Greek times 3000 years ago.

It's not news.  It's not special.

I would like to criticize everyone for this ... not you especially, sorry.

 

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6 hours ago, kj35 said:

I had to administer his test myself. It made him cry. He's 82 with advanced dementia.  Needless to say I hardly went into his nostril ...certainly not the brain deep picture they show. He still cried..with confusion. I did the minimum I could get away with. 

 

 

He now isolates before his care home admission. With my mother in law who has not been asked to have a test. What was the fooking point of any of that other than useless box ticking so they can stay open.

 

garrh too late in replying. You should have brought an apple and tested it if you were allowed to self-test.

The PCR test is 50/50 chance bugger all so it don't matter whether he test positive or not. What matter is, from the care home perspective, that he went to have a test.

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10 minutes ago, rideforever said:

This is my whole point, the internet is creating sheep out of human beings.

How ?  Because it constantly programmes them with the global sheep culture.

They never have the ability to be themselves.  Their own indentity (soul) is dying.

They are all dying and simply become robots.

You have PTSD, congratulations ... pain I am afraid is a requirement to wake up.  Run with it.

 

Awakening

By the way, I hear people on here all the time talking about "Awakening".

This is a disgraceful use of this word.  Awakening is what Buddha did meaning he learnt the meditation techniques and after terrifying struggling entered and immortal state.

What you have done is work out that .. politicians and hidden forces are evil.

Which is pretty ... basic information.  That's all people have been talking about since Ancient Greek times 3000 years ago.

It's not news.  It's not special.

I would like to criticize everyone for this ... not you especially, sorry.

 

I had ptsd before cronyvirus...does that mean i've got it again ?

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4 minutes ago, BridgeBuilder said:

 

garrh too late in replying. You should have brought an apple and tested it if you were allowed to self-test.

The PCR test is 50/50 chance bugger all so it don't matter whether he test positive or not. What matter is, from the care home perspective, that he went to have a test.

Had mother in  law with me. They buy this stuff so couldn't. ALSO didn't know I'd have to do it until I got there. They (the test team people) do watch from a distance. But I admire the thought :-)

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Exactly how i see it.

Those that say yes to lockdown are in part responsible for all the suffering that occurs as a result.

This is no game, these are actual human lives that get destroyed.

Seriously, get a grip and see that this is more important than to actually admit that you were wrong about something, if you believe this Covid narrative.

Tens of thousands of health professionals that do and did ther job for 10+/20+/30+ and even 40+ years do not all of a sudden jump on a "Conspiracy Theory" train to look cool or to impress anyone. If thats what you think these people are, you are a lost human being that never will understand anything.

No one will risk their livlyhood, job and future for a simple argument, for a simple standpoint that has no basis in reality at all.

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