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1 minute ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Ooh who are the new illuminati? 
Are they like the old illuminati but with better haircuts? 
 

Do they tend to their flock of sheep like devoted shepherds, feeding them dollar bills? 

 

NO.... the new illuminati is one of us but there is still a twist. lol

Power was not given but taken!

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20 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

One of us? What, like, from this forum? Or a conspiracy theorist? Please elaborate 

No, not from the forum per se or even a conspiracy theorist...... at least we aren't conspiracy!!

But hate the same kind of establishment we frequently discuss.

At least he thinks Elon, BG etc are filth.

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41 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:


 

ps. The Supreme Court in America says any jabbed person is owned by the pharmaceutical company whose technology was injected into them. 
 

So Rishi Sunak and bill gates literally ‘own ‘ millions of sub humans now? 

 

Oh yeah ? No one patents me. They can come at me with all the swords and knives they can muster but I will be havin' my own secret weapon .....

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Nip said:

 

Oh yeah ? No one patents me. They can come at me with all the swords and knives they can muster but I will be havin' my own weapon .....

 

 

Nips whip, when that isn’t enough, pull out your glock! 
 

Indiana Jones is a doctor too, I’m sure he’d be baffled by the current state of affairs

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4 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Neither am I, sons of Jared vowed to fight the illuminati 

Interesting..... did illuminati exists in biblical time??? 🤨🤔

I think the Knights Templar existed back then, they went places. lol

 

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8 hours ago, DaleP said:

Interesting..... did illuminati exists in biblical time??? 🤨🤔

I think the Knights Templar existed back then, they went places. lol

 

Did have the Roman empire et al

WHO.

believe they were

gods that had to be worshipped Like all other empires

They probably wore

 Coronas on their heads as special people and 

Tagged

the slaves like they

 Patent them today with Geni

 markers etc and taxed the rest to pay for empire and wars with relatives etc

Looked forward to owning the world like today and perfecting it in their image ,now using scientific experts for their  gene of Isis  /genesis new age etc

 

 so same old mind Set !

 

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11 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Hopefully a Native American woman, or maybe a tribal chiefs daughter from the African continent. 
No hysterical conceited gold digging tantrum infantile western women

A calming earth spirited lady with unspoken elegance, a quiet but stern strength and a maternal heart is what I need 

 

so when are you going to book your plane ticket to africa so that you can move there?

 

i hope you aren't going to marry your african princess only to bring her to live in the 'hysterical, conceited tantrum infantile west?'

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

i hope you aren't going to marry your african princess only to bring her to live in the 'hysterical, conceited tantrum infantile west?'

 

also i hope you have a big budget to afford any jewelry or other materialistic things she might want

 

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11 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

I get the feeling these genetic changes will take hundreds of years to rinse out

 

they can't 'rinse out'. once you change the genetic code that will then be passed on forever, unless they can use some sort of gene editing technology eg crispr

 

that's why everyone should be paying attention to the things that really matter and not crap popular culture distractions or what other people are doing on social media

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11 hours ago, pete675 said:

Basically it was cult indoctrination, deploying the entire mass media.

 

along with social media which has made the masses feel like they are living in a goldfish bowl with all of their peers and employers looking over their shoulder ready to judge them if they step out of the politically correct line

 

sadly that culture of fear has distorted peoples VALUE system. Now they think that what is right is to conform to what everyone else is doing instead of establishing what is objectively true and then acting according to that REGARDLESS of what everyone else is doing

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9 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they can't 'rinse out'. once you change the genetic code that will then be passed on forever, unless they can use some sort of gene editing technology eg crispr

 

that's why everyone should paying attention to the things that really matter and not crap popular culture distractions

Maybe, maybe not. Genetic changes to plants can be naturally bred out in subsequent generations, why not humans. we have to have a bit of hope here. 
 

Yes people should be paying attention to the things that really matter, but when in history has that ever happened? Probably never, unless a massive exterior force forces them to. 

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along with social media which has made the masses feel like they are living in a goldfish bowl with all of their peers and employers looking over their shoulder ready to judge them if they step out of the politically correct line

 

sadly that culture of fear has distorted peoples VALUE system. Now they think that what is right is to conform to what everyone else is doing instead of establishing what is objectively true and then acting according to that REGARDLESS of what everyone else is doing

Very good points. Also - and probably you and some other posters will be aware of this - social media is a mere rebrand of darpa's life log. 

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5 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Paul Cattermole's cause of death revealed after S Club 7 star found dead at home aged 46

S CLUB 7’s Paul Cattermole “died suddenly” of natural causes, the Sun can reveal – less than two months after the pop group announced their reunion.

 

 

‘Died Suddenly’ means it was the dirty juice

 

"“died suddenly” of natural causes".

 

They really do enjoy piss-taking  🤣

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34 minutes ago, pete675 said:

Very good points. Also - and probably you and some other posters will be aware of this - social media is a mere rebrand of darpa's life log. 

 

Oh yeah! LifeLog was 'coincidentally' cancelled on the exact same day that Zuckererg launched facebook.

 

In fact, now it's been mentioned, here is a great Quora post about LifeLog/Facebook ...

 

 

Conscript, Hellenic ArmyAuthor has 205 answers and 115.3K answer views1y
 

There is no doubt for an intelligent, rationality-based person that Facebook is probably the largest part of the LifeLog system.

Before getting into detail, consider this: The US Defense Department will arrest you, a private citizen, if you find a prime number - a string of digits from 1 to 9 - that is long enough to be of interest, and you dont report it to them. That is now a crime, and they will imprison you for posessing that mere string of digits. In contrast, Facebook is the worlds most powerful-ever intelligence network. No one in America out-spies the NSA, but Facebook does. Its quite hard to see how Facebook, apparently run by a couple of college nerds, would be able to run a competitor to the US intelligence community, on US soil, without them coming in and taking over. In fact, the notion of Mark Zuckerberg physically fighting off a stream of soldiers and special agents to maintain Facebooks autonomy is quite frankly ridiculous. There is no way - literally, I mean NONE - that the Pentagon would allow an independent company to not give them full access and control of a US military asset of such enormity - when they will punish the mere finding of a prime number. Some things are absolutely impossible, without a single, most infintessimal possibility of being true - and Facebook running the worlds largest ever spy network in California without being taken over by the Pentagon, is one of those things. Hopefully anyone who believes that this could ever be possible has now been quietly and unembarrassingly corrected, and can now pretend that they would never be so ignorant as to harbour such a fantastical delusion.

So now lets start with the detail.

After 9/11 (as all recent major problems originate) DARPA, in close collaboration with the US intelligence community (specifically the CIA), began developing a “precrime” approach to combatting terrorism known as Total Information Awareness or TIA. The purpose of TIA was to develop an “all-seeing” military-surveillance apparatus. The official excuse behind TIA was that invasive surveillance of the entire US population was necessary to prevent 'terrorist attacks' and disease outbreaks. The leader and designer was John Poindexter, previously Ronald Reagan's national security advisor. The TIA program met with considerable citizen outrage after it was revealed to the public in early 2003. The American Civil Liberties Union claimed that the surveillance effort would “kill privacy in America” because “every aspect of our lives would be catalogued,” while several mainstream media outlets warned that TIA was “fighting terror by terrifying US citizens.” As a result of the pressure, DARPA changed the program’s name to Terrorist Information Awareness.

After considerable controversy and criticism, in late 2003, TIA was shut down and defunded by Congress, just months after it was launched. It was only later revealed that that TIA was never actually shut down, with its various programs having been covertly divided up among the web of military and intelligence agencies that make up the US national-security state. Some of it was privatized. So DARPA just moved these to classified portfolios of the Pentagon and US Intelligence Community, out of sight.

A close friend of Poindexter, DARPA's program manager Douglas Gage, created LifeLog, which sought to “build a database tracking a person’s entire existence” that included peoples relationships, communications, thoughts, media consumption habits, purchases, behaviour, and much more, in order to build a digital record of “everything an individual says, sees, or does.” This was the first phase, and the data entry method was self-reporting (essentially getting people to spy on themselves). The second phase was take this unstructured data and organise it into "discreet episodes" and use it for "mapping out relationships, memories, events and experiences". LifeLog creates a permanent and searchable electronic diary of a person’s entire life. It seems AI was to be applied to this data, developed by Howard Shrobe and others. While DARPA publicly denied clandestine surveillance, DARPA’s own documentation on LifeLog noted that the project “will be able . . . to infer the user’s routines, habits and relationships with other people, organizations, places and objects, and to exploit these patterns to ease its task,” which acknowledged its potential use as a tool of mass surveillance. The application of these two steps is to completely model and predict human behaviour. And for network modelling, enabling an unimaginably powerful and broad set of possibilities for control of populations on every conceivable level.

Among critics, Lee Tien of the Electronic Frontier Foundation told VICE at the time of LifeLog’s cancellation, “It would not surprise me to learn that the government continued to fund research that pushed this area forward without calling it LifeLog.” MIT’s David Karger was also certain that the DARPA project would continue in a repackaged form. He told Wired that “I am sure such research will continue to be funded under some other title . . . I can’t imagine DARPA dropping out of a such a key research area.”

LifeLog was officially closed on February 4th, 2004. DARPA never provided an explanation for its quiet move to shutter LifeLog, with a spokesperson stating only that it was related to “a change in priorities” for the agency.

On February 4th, 2004 - the exact same day - Facebook was officially launched.

I hope its obvious that this, if an accident, would be an extraordinary coincidence.

Facebook performs the same tasks as LifeLog in gathering everything about peoples social connections, activities and behaviour. The first point at which I became deeply skeptical of Facebook was, in a signing-up experiment, when it demanded by personal information. Having been on platforms like Twitter, Myspace and others before (Quora is another), I knew that online anonymity is a part of the deal, with no expectation to use real names, passport photos, institutions attended, birthplace, real date of birth, or anything else that Facebook was now coercing me to give them. Passport information is something that only governments demand (employers too but this wasnt a job application). The notion that Facebook might be government-run, asking as it was for my passport information like a police officer, was already at that point a possibility.

At an oldly candid moment in 2015, Gage, DARPAs program manager, himself told VICE that “Facebook is the real face of pseudo-LifeLog at this point.”

It is also on record that figures in the Facebook-Instagram-WhatsApp (etc) group, now renamed 'Meta', are figures in or related to the FBI, NSA, CIA, and DARPA itself.

Examples of US Intelligence Community links:

  • Max Kelly - FBI and NSA, also US Digital Service in the Executive Office of the US President. His movements in NSA after - official - departure from Facebook, were kept secret for three years. Chief Security Officer of Facebook.
  • Sean Parker - CIA. Recruited by them at 16. First President of Facebook. Considered by many to be the person who brought to Facebook Peter Thiel. Thiel was then in coordination with the CIA (Parker's employer), and was actively trying to resurrect controversial DARPA programs that had been officially dismantled the previous year. Thiel had been developing the core panopticon software that was the aim of TIA, with his shady company Palantir. Richard Perle, the Reagan-Bush neoconservative and architect of the Invasion of Iraq, called TIA's Poindexter to introduce him to Thiel and associate Alex Karp, now Palantir's CEO. Thus another link to George Bushes 9/11-led government, as well as the link from TIA to CIA, and from CIA to Facebook. During their first meeting, Thiel and Karp sought “to pick the brain of the man now widely viewed as the godfather of modern surveillance.”
  • Regina Dugan - DARPA. The group where all of this started. Dugan worked for DARPA from 1996, and became non other than their Director. In other words - Dugan led DARPA. There, she also led 'strategic initiatives in the field of social media'. After that she worked at Google, and then Facebook, where she headed Facebooks mysterious 'Building 8', which is considered some sort of skunk-works secret projects department.
  • Marne Levine - daughter-in-law of 9/11-involved John Deutch, former Director of the CIA. First COO of Instagram. Previously worked at US Treasury Department.
  • Joel Kaplan - in the White House Chiefs of Staff for George Bush, to whom he was a special assistant as policy advisor. At Facebook, he succeeded Levine as vice president of global public policy.

Others of such a sensitive nature likely exist in influential roles at Facebook, now 'Meta'.

My own experience: Being coerced by society to again sign up for a Facebook account (albeit only for emailing someone who gave no other contact information) I decided to make an 'anonymous' one - without real name, date of birth, passport photo, or other personal information that Facebook uniquely demands. It wasnt possible. It was not possible, and the account was blocked. Two highlights stick out to me:

1. When it locked me out, it demanded that I provide a photo, and either a copy of my passport or my drivers license. Have a think about that for a minute. A presumably civilian 'socialising' site is demanding your actual passport to make an account. On no other website in my life has this demand been levelled at me. This is clearly not a civillian operation.

2. I searched for an informal photo of some random person of my gender and roughly my age, to get the account unlocked. Once I uploaded this picture, I think a notice came saying something like 'our staff will check the validity of this picture as a representation of you'. I was now beyond all reasonable doubt.

Lets agree on something: NO BUSINESS will spend resources on something like the accuracy of a free account-users photograph. Certainly not a genuine 'social network'. This does not increase their profit (there is no money in it) and it doesnt improve the user experience by increasing customer loyalty. However, it DOES cost money - you have to pay people wages to check all the tens or hundreds of thousands of profiles being made. It does cost time and resources. So if this was a corporate entity, they are wasting time and money on something that has no benefit to them. In fact, this demand actually risks LOSING customers through its overstepping of privacy rights. The only non-work entity that demands a passport photo is the government. The only entity of any kind that would actually RUN CHECKS on a submitted photo is the government. No business would waste resources to check its validity. Therefor, Facebook has to be a government agency.

Sure enough, the photo was rejected. How did they know?! Well, they made it their business to find out. Not their business to do marketing, or improve the website, or make me feel welcome - but to check that my photo could be used to identify me. That they could put passport records to any future social and network activity.

A large part of the gravity of the LifeLog problem is that is does what no major entity did before it. Generally, governments demanded your formal information. But your social life was largely unknown to them. And also, websites where you divulge your thoughts, your interests, beliefs, and social network, did not demand your formal birth information. There was a degree of separation between the two worlds. What LifeLog has done is gather your psychosocial/behavioural information, and then pinned that to your government information. So they know everything about you - and can use that information however they want, whenever they want, whyever they want.

This just describes the outline of what LifeLog is. The actual possibilities with this system are, and I dont use this word lightly, unimaginable. I dont think theres a person on this planet who can picture in their mind the scope for abuse that Meta has for their mass and nature of information. 2-3 Billion humans, some of whom have been giving the Pentagon their personal, interactional, psychological and lifestyle data, daily, for two decades. Its the most powerful dataset that has ever been possessed - and in relation to the 'next most', by a multiple that itself is hard to conceptualise.

What we can be almost sure of, is that they know what we are going to do or think, years before we do it. You just cant deny the predictive might of a trillion human datapoints. Most unforgivable, is that it has all been given *voluntarily*, it has been proactively *offered* to the Pentagon, by Facebook and Instagram users. By people *spying on themselves* - without even asking for a DoD salary. Together, the people on the Meta data-gathering platform have done something that has never been achieved in the wildest dreams of even the most genocidal, oppressive fascist: they have given the government the information to predict, and control, every minute detail of what it is to be human, on any population level they wish, in any conceivable situation, for as long as this data can be preserved. The psychological, behavioural, relational data can now be fed into a quantum computer, to calculate any (and probably every) eventuality. What a government can do with that informational power is beyond any conceivable limit.

 

 

 

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On 5/16/2023 at 3:51 PM, allymisfit said:

This is true. I was at a meeting for something similar for my local community.

Trying to brainstorm what we could use.

In the UK, we are lucky to have edible seaweed which is full of nutrients and can be made in so many ways.

Nettles, wild garlic..all the good stuff is around us.

Some places grow trees and bushes of edible produce in empty spots, as well as placing hanging baskets around with things like strawberry plants.

This is something we hope to do for our local community so everyone has access to fresh fruit and vegetables.

 

I have had tomato plants grow on my windowsill successfully. Just those little flies are a pest.  (Mild soapy water sprayed on them helps only a little. Fly tape was better.)

 

I also love growing in compost bags, things like potatoes, tomatoes, carrots etc..

Herbs grow very easily too.

 

I think it would be a good idea to join a local foraging course to get more ideas. Mushrooms will come in due time also.

 

Setting up local groups where you can all contribute by growing one thing and swapping it around for other items by other people.

If everyone could do one thing each, my goodness, we'd always be healthy and never hungry. 

Local councils rent out allotments up here (Scotland) for next to nothing. They're so cheap. You get a very generous bit of land to work with where I stay.

 

I think I'll need to make a thread for this as this is something I am seriously looking into. Swapping ideas and tips could really help.

*Just saw the food thread, I'll post in there any other ideas that come*

You can grow potatoes in cardboard boxes and many other veg in pots or larger plastic bottles etc. If you use copper wire wound around sticks (electroculture) or rods your yield will be much greater. I'm experimenting with this and it keeps bad bugs away too.

Vertical gardening in a sunny wall gets huge yields as does a small aquaponics system. Lots of videos on YouTube re all this too.

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1 hour ago, webtrekker said:

 

Oh yeah! LifeLog was 'coincidentally' cancelled on the exact same day that Zuckererg launched facebook.

 

In fact, now it's been mentioned, here is a great Quora post about LifeLog/Facebook ...

 

 

Conscript, Hellenic ArmyAuthor has 205 answers and 115.3K answer views1y
 

There is no doubt for an intelligent, rationality-based person that Facebook is probably the largest part of the LifeLog system.

Before getting into detail, consider this: The US Defense Department will arrest you, a private citizen, if you find a prime number - a string of digits from 1 to 9 - that is long enough to be of interest, and you dont report it to them. That is now a crime, and they will imprison you for posessing that mere string of digits. In contrast, Facebook is the worlds most powerful-ever intelligence network. No one in America out-spies the NSA, but Facebook does. Its quite hard to see how Facebook, apparently run by a couple of college nerds, would be able to run a competitor to the US intelligence community, on US soil, without them coming in and taking over. In fact, the notion of Mark Zuckerberg physically fighting off a stream of soldiers and special agents to maintain Facebooks autonomy is quite frankly ridiculous. There is no way - literally, I mean NONE - that the Pentagon would allow an independent company to not give them full access and control of a US military asset of such enormity - when they will punish the mere finding of a prime number. Some things are absolutely impossible, without a single, most infintessimal possibility of being true - and Facebook running the worlds largest ever spy network in California without being taken over by the Pentagon, is one of those things. Hopefully anyone who believes that this could ever be possible has now been quietly and unembarrassingly corrected, and can now pretend that they would never be so ignorant as to harbour such a fantastical delusion.

So now lets start with the detail.

After 9/11 (as all recent major problems originate) DARPA, in close collaboration with the US intelligence community (specifically the CIA), began developing a “precrime” approach to combatting terrorism known as Total Information Awareness or TIA. The purpose of TIA was to develop an “all-seeing” military-surveillance apparatus. The official excuse behind TIA was that invasive surveillance of the entire US population was necessary to prevent 'terrorist attacks' and disease outbreaks. The leader and designer was John Poindexter, previously Ronald Reagan's national security advisor. The TIA program met with considerable citizen outrage after it was revealed to the public in early 2003. The American Civil Liberties Union claimed that the surveillance effort would “kill privacy in America” because “every aspect of our lives would be catalogued,” while several mainstream media outlets warned that TIA was “fighting terror by terrifying US citizens.” As a result of the pressure, DARPA changed the program’s name to Terrorist Information Awareness.

After considerable controversy and criticism, in late 2003, TIA was shut down and defunded by Congress, just months after it was launched. It was only later revealed that that TIA was never actually shut down, with its various programs having been covertly divided up among the web of military and intelligence agencies that make up the US national-security state. Some of it was privatized. So DARPA just moved these to classified portfolios of the Pentagon and US Intelligence Community, out of sight.

A close friend of Poindexter, DARPA's program manager Douglas Gage, created LifeLog, which sought to “build a database tracking a person’s entire existence” that included peoples relationships, communications, thoughts, media consumption habits, purchases, behaviour, and much more, in order to build a digital record of “everything an individual says, sees, or does.” This was the first phase, and the data entry method was self-reporting (essentially getting people to spy on themselves). The second phase was take this unstructured data and organise it into "discreet episodes" and use it for "mapping out relationships, memories, events and experiences". LifeLog creates a permanent and searchable electronic diary of a person’s entire life. It seems AI was to be applied to this data, developed by Howard Shrobe and others. While DARPA publicly denied clandestine surveillance, DARPA’s own documentation on LifeLog noted that the project “will be able . . . to infer the user’s routines, habits and relationships with other people, organizations, places and objects, and to exploit these patterns to ease its task,” which acknowledged its potential use as a tool of mass surveillance. The application of these two steps is to completely model and predict human behaviour. And for network modelling, enabling an unimaginably powerful and broad set of possibilities for control of populations on every conceivable level.

Among critics, Lee Tien of the Electronic Frontier Foundation told VICE at the time of LifeLog’s cancellation, “It would not surprise me to learn that the government continued to fund research that pushed this area forward without calling it LifeLog.” MIT’s David Karger was also certain that the DARPA project would continue in a repackaged form. He told Wired that “I am sure such research will continue to be funded under some other title . . . I can’t imagine DARPA dropping out of a such a key research area.”

LifeLog was officially closed on February 4th, 2004. DARPA never provided an explanation for its quiet move to shutter LifeLog, with a spokesperson stating only that it was related to “a change in priorities” for the agency.

On February 4th, 2004 - the exact same day - Facebook was officially launched.

I hope its obvious that this, if an accident, would be an extraordinary coincidence.

Facebook performs the same tasks as LifeLog in gathering everything about peoples social connections, activities and behaviour. The first point at which I became deeply skeptical of Facebook was, in a signing-up experiment, when it demanded by personal information. Having been on platforms like Twitter, Myspace and others before (Quora is another), I knew that online anonymity is a part of the deal, with no expectation to use real names, passport photos, institutions attended, birthplace, real date of birth, or anything else that Facebook was now coercing me to give them. Passport information is something that only governments demand (employers too but this wasnt a job application). The notion that Facebook might be government-run, asking as it was for my passport information like a police officer, was already at that point a possibility.

At an oldly candid moment in 2015, Gage, DARPAs program manager, himself told VICE that “Facebook is the real face of pseudo-LifeLog at this point.”

It is also on record that figures in the Facebook-Instagram-WhatsApp (etc) group, now renamed 'Meta', are figures in or related to the FBI, NSA, CIA, and DARPA itself.

Examples of US Intelligence Community links:

  • Max Kelly - FBI and NSA, also US Digital Service in the Executive Office of the US President. His movements in NSA after - official - departure from Facebook, were kept secret for three years. Chief Security Officer of Facebook.
  • Sean Parker - CIA. Recruited by them at 16. First President of Facebook. Considered by many to be the person who brought to Facebook Peter Thiel. Thiel was then in coordination with the CIA (Parker's employer), and was actively trying to resurrect controversial DARPA programs that had been officially dismantled the previous year. Thiel had been developing the core panopticon software that was the aim of TIA, with his shady company Palantir. Richard Perle, the Reagan-Bush neoconservative and architect of the Invasion of Iraq, called TIA's Poindexter to introduce him to Thiel and associate Alex Karp, now Palantir's CEO. Thus another link to George Bushes 9/11-led government, as well as the link from TIA to CIA, and from CIA to Facebook. During their first meeting, Thiel and Karp sought “to pick the brain of the man now widely viewed as the godfather of modern surveillance.”
  • Regina Dugan - DARPA. The group where all of this started. Dugan worked for DARPA from 1996, and became non other than their Director. In other words - Dugan led DARPA. There, she also led 'strategic initiatives in the field of social media'. After that she worked at Google, and then Facebook, where she headed Facebooks mysterious 'Building 8', which is considered some sort of skunk-works secret projects department.
  • Marne Levine - daughter-in-law of 9/11-involved John Deutch, former Director of the CIA. First COO of Instagram. Previously worked at US Treasury Department.
  • Joel Kaplan - in the White House Chiefs of Staff for George Bush, to whom he was a special assistant as policy advisor. At Facebook, he succeeded Levine as vice president of global public policy.

Others of such a sensitive nature likely exist in influential roles at Facebook, now 'Meta'.

My own experience: Being coerced by society to again sign up for a Facebook account (albeit only for emailing someone who gave no other contact information) I decided to make an 'anonymous' one - without real name, date of birth, passport photo, or other personal information that Facebook uniquely demands. It wasnt possible. It was not possible, and the account was blocked. Two highlights stick out to me:

1. When it locked me out, it demanded that I provide a photo, and either a copy of my passport or my drivers license. Have a think about that for a minute. A presumably civilian 'socialising' site is demanding your actual passport to make an account. On no other website in my life has this demand been levelled at me. This is clearly not a civillian operation.

2. I searched for an informal photo of some random person of my gender and roughly my age, to get the account unlocked. Once I uploaded this picture, I think a notice came saying something like 'our staff will check the validity of this picture as a representation of you'. I was now beyond all reasonable doubt.

Lets agree on something: NO BUSINESS will spend resources on something like the accuracy of a free account-users photograph. Certainly not a genuine 'social network'. This does not increase their profit (there is no money in it) and it doesnt improve the user experience by increasing customer loyalty. However, it DOES cost money - you have to pay people wages to check all the tens or hundreds of thousands of profiles being made. It does cost time and resources. So if this was a corporate entity, they are wasting time and money on something that has no benefit to them. In fact, this demand actually risks LOSING customers through its overstepping of privacy rights. The only non-work entity that demands a passport photo is the government. The only entity of any kind that would actually RUN CHECKS on a submitted photo is the government. No business would waste resources to check its validity. Therefor, Facebook has to be a government agency.

Sure enough, the photo was rejected. How did they know?! Well, they made it their business to find out. Not their business to do marketing, or improve the website, or make me feel welcome - but to check that my photo could be used to identify me. That they could put passport records to any future social and network activity.

A large part of the gravity of the LifeLog problem is that is does what no major entity did before it. Generally, governments demanded your formal information. But your social life was largely unknown to them. And also, websites where you divulge your thoughts, your interests, beliefs, and social network, did not demand your formal birth information. There was a degree of separation between the two worlds. What LifeLog has done is gather your psychosocial/behavioural information, and then pinned that to your government information. So they know everything about you - and can use that information however they want, whenever they want, whyever they want.

This just describes the outline of what LifeLog is. The actual possibilities with this system are, and I dont use this word lightly, unimaginable. I dont think theres a person on this planet who can picture in their mind the scope for abuse that Meta has for their mass and nature of information. 2-3 Billion humans, some of whom have been giving the Pentagon their personal, interactional, psychological and lifestyle data, daily, for two decades. Its the most powerful dataset that has ever been possessed - and in relation to the 'next most', by a multiple that itself is hard to conceptualise.

What we can be almost sure of, is that they know what we are going to do or think, years before we do it. You just cant deny the predictive might of a trillion human datapoints. Most unforgivable, is that it has all been given *voluntarily*, it has been proactively *offered* to the Pentagon, by Facebook and Instagram users. By people *spying on themselves* - without even asking for a DoD salary. Together, the people on the Meta data-gathering platform have done something that has never been achieved in the wildest dreams of even the most genocidal, oppressive fascist: they have given the government the information to predict, and control, every minute detail of what it is to be human, on any population level they wish, in any conceivable situation, for as long as this data can be preserved. The psychological, behavioural, relational data can now be fed into a quantum computer, to calculate any (and probably every) eventuality. What a government can do with that informational power is beyond any conceivable limit.

 

 

 

 

Ok, I know that post is a bit long-winded and many will just skip over it, so here's a great suggestion ...

 

Whenever you have a fairly long document to digest, copy it and post it into ChatGPT-4 asking for a concise summary, then you'll get something like this ...

 

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Now that's much easier on the eyes (and mind!) and could serve as a 'hook' to prompt people into actually reading the article, or as a quick summary for readers with little time. I'd suggest posting the summary above the longer article.

 

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Oh yeah! LifeLog was 'coincidentally' cancelled on the exact same day that Zuckererg launched facebook.

 

In fact, now it's been mentioned, here is a great Quora post about LifeLog/Facebook ...

 

 

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There is no doubt for an intelligent, rationality-based person that Facebook is probably the largest part of the LifeLog system.

Before getting into detail, consider this: The US Defense Department will arrest you, a private citizen, if you find a prime number - a string of digits from 1 to 9 - that is long enough to be of interest, and you dont report it to them. That is now a crime, and they will imprison you for posessing that mere string of digits. In contrast, Facebook is the worlds most powerful-ever intelligence network. No one in America out-spies the NSA, but Facebook does. Its quite hard to see how Facebook, apparently run by a couple of college nerds, would be able to run a competitor to the US intelligence community, on US soil, without them coming in and taking over. In fact, the notion of Mark Zuckerberg physically fighting off a stream of soldiers and special agents to maintain Facebooks autonomy is quite frankly ridiculous. There is no way - literally, I mean NONE - that the Pentagon would allow an independent company to not give them full access and control of a US military asset of such enormity - when they will punish the mere finding of a prime number. Some things are absolutely impossible, without a single, most infintessimal possibility of being true - and Facebook running the worlds largest ever spy network in California without being taken over by the Pentagon, is one of those things. Hopefully anyone who believes that this could ever be possible has now been quietly and unembarrassingly corrected, and can now pretend that they would never be so ignorant as to harbour such a fantastical delusion.

So now lets start with the detail.

After 9/11 (as all recent major problems originate) DARPA, in close collaboration with the US intelligence community (specifically the CIA), began developing a “precrime” approach to combatting terrorism known as Total Information Awareness or TIA. The purpose of TIA was to develop an “all-seeing” military-surveillance apparatus. The official excuse behind TIA was that invasive surveillance of the entire US population was necessary to prevent 'terrorist attacks' and disease outbreaks. The leader and designer was John Poindexter, previously Ronald Reagan's national security advisor. The TIA program met with considerable citizen outrage after it was revealed to the public in early 2003. The American Civil Liberties Union claimed that the surveillance effort would “kill privacy in America” because “every aspect of our lives would be catalogued,” while several mainstream media outlets warned that TIA was “fighting terror by terrifying US citizens.” As a result of the pressure, DARPA changed the program’s name to Terrorist Information Awareness.

After considerable controversy and criticism, in late 2003, TIA was shut down and defunded by Congress, just months after it was launched. It was only later revealed that that TIA was never actually shut down, with its various programs having been covertly divided up among the web of military and intelligence agencies that make up the US national-security state. Some of it was privatized. So DARPA just moved these to classified portfolios of the Pentagon and US Intelligence Community, out of sight.

A close friend of Poindexter, DARPA's program manager Douglas Gage, created LifeLog, which sought to “build a database tracking a person’s entire existence” that included peoples relationships, communications, thoughts, media consumption habits, purchases, behaviour, and much more, in order to build a digital record of “everything an individual says, sees, or does.” This was the first phase, and the data entry method was self-reporting (essentially getting people to spy on themselves). The second phase was take this unstructured data and organise it into "discreet episodes" and use it for "mapping out relationships, memories, events and experiences". LifeLog creates a permanent and searchable electronic diary of a person’s entire life. It seems AI was to be applied to this data, developed by Howard Shrobe and others. While DARPA publicly denied clandestine surveillance, DARPA’s own documentation on LifeLog noted that the project “will be able . . . to infer the user’s routines, habits and relationships with other people, organizations, places and objects, and to exploit these patterns to ease its task,” which acknowledged its potential use as a tool of mass surveillance. The application of these two steps is to completely model and predict human behaviour. And for network modelling, enabling an unimaginably powerful and broad set of possibilities for control of populations on every conceivable level.

Among critics, Lee Tien of the Electronic Frontier Foundation told VICE at the time of LifeLog’s cancellation, “It would not surprise me to learn that the government continued to fund research that pushed this area forward without calling it LifeLog.” MIT’s David Karger was also certain that the DARPA project would continue in a repackaged form. He told Wired that “I am sure such research will continue to be funded under some other title . . . I can’t imagine DARPA dropping out of a such a key research area.”

LifeLog was officially closed on February 4th, 2004. DARPA never provided an explanation for its quiet move to shutter LifeLog, with a spokesperson stating only that it was related to “a change in priorities” for the agency.

On February 4th, 2004 - the exact same day - Facebook was officially launched.

I hope its obvious that this, if an accident, would be an extraordinary coincidence.

Facebook performs the same tasks as LifeLog in gathering everything about peoples social connections, activities and behaviour. The first point at which I became deeply skeptical of Facebook was, in a signing-up experiment, when it demanded by personal information. Having been on platforms like Twitter, Myspace and others before (Quora is another), I knew that online anonymity is a part of the deal, with no expectation to use real names, passport photos, institutions attended, birthplace, real date of birth, or anything else that Facebook was now coercing me to give them. Passport information is something that only governments demand (employers too but this wasnt a job application). The notion that Facebook might be government-run, asking as it was for my passport information like a police officer, was already at that point a possibility.

At an oldly candid moment in 2015, Gage, DARPAs program manager, himself told VICE that “Facebook is the real face of pseudo-LifeLog at this point.”

It is also on record that figures in the Facebook-Instagram-WhatsApp (etc) group, now renamed 'Meta', are figures in or related to the FBI, NSA, CIA, and DARPA itself.

Examples of US Intelligence Community links:

  • Max Kelly - FBI and NSA, also US Digital Service in the Executive Office of the US President. His movements in NSA after - official - departure from Facebook, were kept secret for three years. Chief Security Officer of Facebook.
  • Sean Parker - CIA. Recruited by them at 16. First President of Facebook. Considered by many to be the person who brought to Facebook Peter Thiel. Thiel was then in coordination with the CIA (Parker's employer), and was actively trying to resurrect controversial DARPA programs that had been officially dismantled the previous year. Thiel had been developing the core panopticon software that was the aim of TIA, with his shady company Palantir. Richard Perle, the Reagan-Bush neoconservative and architect of the Invasion of Iraq, called TIA's Poindexter to introduce him to Thiel and associate Alex Karp, now Palantir's CEO. Thus another link to George Bushes 9/11-led government, as well as the link from TIA to CIA, and from CIA to Facebook. During their first meeting, Thiel and Karp sought “to pick the brain of the man now widely viewed as the godfather of modern surveillance.”
  • Regina Dugan - DARPA. The group where all of this started. Dugan worked for DARPA from 1996, and became non other than their Director. In other words - Dugan led DARPA. There, she also led 'strategic initiatives in the field of social media'. After that she worked at Google, and then Facebook, where she headed Facebooks mysterious 'Building 8', which is considered some sort of skunk-works secret projects department.
  • Marne Levine - daughter-in-law of 9/11-involved John Deutch, former Director of the CIA. First COO of Instagram. Previously worked at US Treasury Department.
  • Joel Kaplan - in the White House Chiefs of Staff for George Bush, to whom he was a special assistant as policy advisor. At Facebook, he succeeded Levine as vice president of global public policy.

Others of such a sensitive nature likely exist in influential roles at Facebook, now 'Meta'.

My own experience: Being coerced by society to again sign up for a Facebook account (albeit only for emailing someone who gave no other contact information) I decided to make an 'anonymous' one - without real name, date of birth, passport photo, or other personal information that Facebook uniquely demands. It wasnt possible. It was not possible, and the account was blocked. Two highlights stick out to me:

1. When it locked me out, it demanded that I provide a photo, and either a copy of my passport or my drivers license. Have a think about that for a minute. A presumably civilian 'socialising' site is demanding your actual passport to make an account. On no other website in my life has this demand been levelled at me. This is clearly not a civillian operation.

2. I searched for an informal photo of some random person of my gender and roughly my age, to get the account unlocked. Once I uploaded this picture, I think a notice came saying something like 'our staff will check the validity of this picture as a representation of you'. I was now beyond all reasonable doubt.

Lets agree on something: NO BUSINESS will spend resources on something like the accuracy of a free account-users photograph. Certainly not a genuine 'social network'. This does not increase their profit (there is no money in it) and it doesnt improve the user experience by increasing customer loyalty. However, it DOES cost money - you have to pay people wages to check all the tens or hundreds of thousands of profiles being made. It does cost time and resources. So if this was a corporate entity, they are wasting time and money on something that has no benefit to them. In fact, this demand actually risks LOSING customers through its overstepping of privacy rights. The only non-work entity that demands a passport photo is the government. The only entity of any kind that would actually RUN CHECKS on a submitted photo is the government. No business would waste resources to check its validity. Therefor, Facebook has to be a government agency.

Sure enough, the photo was rejected. How did they know?! Well, they made it their business to find out. Not their business to do marketing, or improve the website, or make me feel welcome - but to check that my photo could be used to identify me. That they could put passport records to any future social and network activity.

A large part of the gravity of the LifeLog problem is that is does what no major entity did before it. Generally, governments demanded your formal information. But your social life was largely unknown to them. And also, websites where you divulge your thoughts, your interests, beliefs, and social network, did not demand your formal birth information. There was a degree of separation between the two worlds. What LifeLog has done is gather your psychosocial/behavioural information, and then pinned that to your government information. So they know everything about you - and can use that information however they want, whenever they want, whyever they want.

This just describes the outline of what LifeLog is. The actual possibilities with this system are, and I dont use this word lightly, unimaginable. I dont think theres a person on this planet who can picture in their mind the scope for abuse that Meta has for their mass and nature of information. 2-3 Billion humans, some of whom have been giving the Pentagon their personal, interactional, psychological and lifestyle data, daily, for two decades. Its the most powerful dataset that has ever been possessed - and in relation to the 'next most', by a multiple that itself is hard to conceptualise.

What we can be almost sure of, is that they know what we are going to do or think, years before we do it. You just cant deny the predictive might of a trillion human datapoints. Most unforgivable, is that it has all been given *voluntarily*, it has been proactively *offered* to the Pentagon, by Facebook and Instagram users. By people *spying on themselves* - without even asking for a DoD salary. Together, the people on the Meta data-gathering platform have done something that has never been achieved in the wildest dreams of even the most genocidal, oppressive fascist: they have given the government the information to predict, and control, every minute detail of what it is to be human, on any population level they wish, in any conceivable situation, for as long as this data can be preserved. The psychological, behavioural, relational data can now be fed into a quantum computer, to calculate any (and probably every) eventuality. What a government can do with that informational power is beyond any conceivable limit.

 

 

 

You misspelled "ZuckerBorg" 😂

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