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Who will you kiss under the mistletoe?

Apparently Boris won't ban mistletoe this year, though according to Sky just now, mistletoe sales are suffering?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-wont-ban-mistletoe-23038251

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mistletoe-sellers-forced-to-kiss-goodbye-seasonal-sales-12136680

 


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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

They don't mean that a public debate open to the public will be held

 

They mean that they will stage-manage some discussions on TV and radio where their hand picked propagandists create a new overton window of permitted discourse within which are the matters which the public are allowed themselves to discuss over their garden fence with their neighbours

 

What they will not do is have an honest probe into matters that allows us as a country to get down to the REAL truth of whats going on

 

Agreed.

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4 hours ago, Illmatic said:

And in terms of fractional banking, I don't fully understand it but I know that basically the house always wins, so as you said maybe it's not terribly useful to know all the ins and outs.

 

''Because you can buy things with your bank account, we think of this as money even though it’s not cash. Therefore, if you borrow £100 from the bank, and it credits your account with the amount, ‘new money’ has been created. It didn’t exist until it was credited to your account.

This also means as you pay off the loan, the electronic money your bank created is ‘deleted’ – it no longer exists. You haven’t got richer or poorer. You might have less money in your bank account but your debts have gone down too. So essentially, banks create money, not wealth.

Banks create around 80% of money in the economy as electronic deposits in this way. In comparison, banknotes and coins only make up 3%''

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/how-is-money-created

The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money Ep 4

 

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9 hours ago, bryan said:

 The Center for Disease Control came up with a plan to increase vaccine sales. They worked with the media to exaggerate the risk and inflate the figures to scare people into getting the shot every winter.

 

They created a scare over swine flu in the 1970's which led to a mass vaccine roll out that was halted after it caused many cases of guillain-barre syndrome. As always the cure was worse than the problem....

 

''In 1976, an outbreak of the swine flu, influenza A virus subtype H1N1 at Fort Dix, New Jersey caused one death, hospitalized 13, and led to a mass immunization program. After the program began, the vaccine was associated with an increase in reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which can cause paralysis, respiratory arrest, and death. The immunization program was ended after approximately 25% of the population of the United States had been administered the vaccine. ''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak

1970's Swine Flu Propaganda

 

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2 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

If that's real its incredibly fucking sad. I'm currently in Germany and it seems they're ushering in a fourth reich without even knowing it.

 

Posted earlier in the thread but today I told someone that I went to the Reichstag protest and got given a lecture about having more care for the vulnerable, not associating with Nazis and not protesting democratic laws that are there to protect freedom.

 

It seems like they've managed to flip everything on its head. I often wonder if the opponents of the actual Nazis got the same treatment, "don't be so selfish, don't you know they want to protect us and our freedoms?". Seems like Germany didn't really learn from their history and now they may be doomed to repeat it.

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4 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Think I'll go to ground for a while, I'll be keeping my eye on goings on here now and then. Stay strong :-)  I shall be back in due course. Just have a strange, odd feeling after recent events so I'll listen to my gut and take a break for a while.

 

Cheek!

You never did the last puzzle.

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14 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

''Because you can buy things with your bank account, we think of this as money even though it’s not cash. Therefore, if you borrow £100 from the bank, and it credits your account with the amount, ‘new money’ has been created. It didn’t exist until it was credited to your account.

This also means as you pay off the loan, the electronic money your bank created is ‘deleted’ – it no longer exists. You haven’t got richer or poorer. You might have less money in your bank account but your debts have gone down too. So essentially, banks create money, not wealth.

Banks create around 80% of money in the economy as electronic deposits in this way. In comparison, banknotes and coins only make up 3%''

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/how-is-money-created

The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money Ep 4

 

 

Right exactly, money only exists as an idea but at least as paper/metal in your hand it's more real than numbers on a screen.

 

Makes perfect sense that they would want to make it possible to turn your livelihood on or off like a tap and make it conditional based on your behaviour.

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14 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Think I'll go to ground for a while, I'll be keeping my eye on goings on here now and then. Stay strong :-)  I shall be back in due course. Just have a strange, odd feeling after recent events so I'll listen to my gut and take a break for a while.

 

that's called the 'chilling effect'

 

the authorities and their corporate media lackeys have created a CLIMATE OF FEAR in britain where people are afraid to discuss even the most fundamental issues facing us today

 

This is their way of telling us that we don't really have democracy whilst not actually saying we don't have democracy

 

Its a bit like darth vader dressing up in a tuutuu....he looks harmless but he's still going to vaporise that planet with his death star...

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12 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

Right exactly, money only exists as an idea but at least as paper/metal in your hand it's more real than numbers on a screen.

 

there is a difference between 'currency' and 'money'. cash is currency but gold and silver are money:

Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money Episode 1 - Mike Maloney

 

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Makes perfect sense that they would want to make it possible to turn your livelihood on or off like a tap and make it conditional based on your behaviour.

 

currency now is not pegged to anything tangible like gold. It is a total abstraction and according to that quote from the bank of england above exists mostly not in cash form but as digits on a computer screen

 

The difference between the situation now though and the proposed digital currency on the central banks closed blockchains is that you can at least hold cash under your mattress now which means you could be a critic of the government and still walk down to your local shop and buy your dinner

 

But under their proposed technocratic system they can simply make your digital currency dissapear because it will all be held in their system. This means they can starve dissent and therefore their technocractic 'great reset' is undemocratic and an attack on our civil liberties

 

As it stands they already showed us that they can swipe money directly from your bank account because they took a 'haircut' off the top of bank accounts in cyprus after the 2008 credit crunch. This is because when you deposit your currency with a bank you no longer own it as you are an 'unsecured creditor'

 

This is why they don't want gold and silver but in theory anything can be used as currency if there is consensus on it. We could all start transacting in sea shells if we all agreed to do it. Our current currency has no intrinsic value but we can purchase things with it because we all have a consensus to recognise value in it

 

but really it is an illusion

 

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22 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

It seems like they've managed to flip everything on its head. I often wonder if the opponents of the actual Nazis got the same treatment, "don't be so selfish, don't you know they want to protect us and our freedoms?".

 

People of the 21st century have often pondered how the authoritarian regimes of the 20th century could have taken hold of so many countries and now we are finding out for ourselves by living through it in our own countries

 

The answer, as i'm learning, is that they get away with it because not enough people resist

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