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Traveller

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2 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

If there is a little Hitler inside you that seeks to govern, then what makes you human is the ability to consciously control it.

 

It's black and white for me: either you're a Buddha or a Hitler, literally, give or take a few things that barely count.

 

It is violence when we use a sharp word, when we make a gesture to brush away a person. So violence isn't merely organized butchery in the name of God, in the name of society or country. Violence is much more subtle, much deeper.

 

In one conflict lies the seed of all conflict, whether subtle or obvious, and until you've ended inward violence completely and totally, you're the cause of all this mess. Me saying I'm a Hitler is trying to own and recognise my part in the mess so that potentially, I can end it in me. If you don't know that you're ill, you can't recover.

 

Perhaps, being human does end it. I would suggest that we're not human till we're Buddahs, for want of a better description w/o religious overtones. There are no Buddahs on Earth right now as far as I can tell. I see black magic expressed by everyone, uknowingly, with our gossip and running people down and so cursing them to be a certain way.

 

Having had an NDE and hence ego death, my experience of that was that we walk through life almost completely unconscious of the negative knock on affects of our words and even thoughts. To be made aware of how what we have said impacted those around us, feeling their reaction as if it was our own, is a disconcerting experience. It's now only a memory and I negatively impact again and I know everyone else does this too. We might feel awake but we're deep in slumber from what I've learnt. Peace

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FrankVitali

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Yeah, everyone download and start using TOR (The Onion Ring), truly anonymous browsing. It will make life a bitch for GCHQ and international agencies.

 

Read more here:

  

https://www.torproject.org/

 

Essentially, if they get your IP you're screwed. If they don't, and they only trace mickeymouse IPs then your reet.

 

@lake would you agree?

 

Note to the Icke team, you should also manually purge/nullify all IPs and or hostnames from the DB regularly, for the protection of your members.

  

UPDATE 'table_name' SET ip_address (or whatever field it is called) = ''

 

Get that command scheduled via cron to run every 24hrs.

 

 

 

Just sayin'  😄

 

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lake

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15 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

would you agree?

 

Hey Frank

Sorry but I don't agree. Interesting that you know some db shit : )

 

I was a carpenter and taught myself some code shit. I can write, but do not, javascript.

I figure that I could track you to your computer via javascript in real time through any vpn.

 

And I am shit at this stuff!

 

Really .... I am near useless at code (yes I write it but nothing like some, most, can do, but they can't scribe wood for shit, so I think I am better off)

 

Tor was created by DARPA. You think that they didn't create a way to track through it?

 

If you are online .... You are known.

If you have a mobile .... You are known.

 

and as stated .... If you allow javascript, You Are Known.

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oneantisworthtenofyou

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12 minutes ago, lake said:

 

Hey Frank

Sorry but I don't agree. Interesting that you know some db shit : )

 

I was a carpenter and taught myself some code shit. I can write, but do not, javascript.

I figure that I could track you to your computer via javascript in real time through any vpn.

 

And I am shit at this stuff!

 

Really .... I am near useless at code (yes I write it but nothing like some, most, can do, but they can't scribe wood for shit, so I think I am better off)

 

Tor was created by DARPA. You think that they didn't create a way to track through it?

 

If you are online .... You are known.

If you have a mobile .... You are known.

 

and as stated .... If you allow javascript, You Are Known.

Tor isn’t considered a serious security or Anon solution

Folk mostly encounter tor these days while attempting to access forbidden restricted content on what novices and the media have coined “the dark web”

 

IMO recommending tor as a genuine security solution would be on par with recommending Fox News for honest news content

 

 

 

 

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Macnamara

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Free speech over vaccine dangers

 

Britains top counter terrorism police officer has called for ''a debate for society to have about free speech and responsibility and people who are spreading misinformation that could cost people’s lives... whether that is the correct thing for this society to allow to happen” in the mainstream media for example the following newspaper article:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-terrorism-coronavirus-anti-vaxxers-b73161.html

 

Well mate i've got news for you: we are already having that debate! That's right we, the general public, are already discussing these matters in the only place we can which is online. We are not allowed to gather in pubs or in each others houses or in public spaces so we speak to each other ONLINE.

 

DEMOCRACY began in greece where the public met in the public AGORA to discuss matters of public importance and today our agora is ONLINE on social media including forums such as this one.

 

Its a public space and we know you are listening so nothing is being hidden here from anyone. We are simply exercising our democratic right to discuss matters of public importance. We are doing this because we believe in our right to freedom of speech.

 

Now lets consider the next part of your proposed debate which is whether or not misinformation can cost peoples lives and whether or not its right for us to let that happen.

 

We believe that the missinformation given by the government and its advisors like neil fergusson in order to justify a lockdown has been incorrect and that it has indeed cost lives. Now being peace loving people we don't really know what to do about that. We haven't picked up pitch forks and flaming torches and stormed the parliament, no we have quietly and calmly and in a very british way gone to the public space (the online agora of social media) to voice our outrage at government actions that we disagree with

 

Unlike the government we haven't killed anyone.

 

So the answer to your question of whether or not we should allow that kind of misinformation to be spread is that no we shouldn't which is why we are online correcting the governments lies. The corporate media has challenged some of those lies but have also shamelessly pushed some of them too and the answer to what we do about them is that we are using their media less and less and instead using the independent media which is less beholden to special interests so that we can get unfiltered information with which to make informed choices

 

There are very valid questions being asked about the vaccines and also about the conflicts of interests of key advisors to the government such as patrick vallance and chris whitty and whether or not they stand to make money out of the vaccine roll outs and there are even questions over politicians such as rishi sunak who it appears has links to a hedge fund called theleme that will profit from the moderna vaccine

 

So we have some very reasonable and justifiable concerns and we are exercising our democratic freedom of speech rights to come together in a public agora in order to discuss these matters

 

Unfortunately I suspect that what you mean when you say there should be a discussion is that a stage-managed and scripted discussion should take place involving the systems hand picked talking heads who should then dictate down to the rest of us what the accepted views are to have on these issues. No doubt the general public will be entirely frozen out of that 'debate'.

 

Now i'll put another charge to you which is that despite being an anti-terror chief, i would say that your comments which appear to threaten our democratic rights can and will cause terror in the british public and that you are causing the very thing your job title claims you are supposed to be preventing.

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8 minutes ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

would be on par with recommending Fox News for honest news

 

Interesting that you type fox news and not another main stream bullshit channel!

 

Did I create the 'chips' in the computer I am using? NO. Then I have no idea what they are doing.

Did I create the BIOS in the system I am using? NO. Then I have no idea what it is doing.

Did I write the operating system I am using? NO. Then I have no idea what it is sending.

Did I write the browser software I am using? NO. Then it is doing as it is programmed to do.

Did I code all the websites I visit? NO. But then I still have some control .... IF I comprehend how to restrict what is done but that may not allow me access to all the wonderful things!

 

A bit like the coming choice.

Take the vaccine and you will be allowed certain freedoms.

Decline the vaccine .... and life (like the internet without javascript) will not really work anymore!

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Macnamara

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11 hours ago, Traveller said:

Thanks for the info. I'd like to know more and may research it. I'd like to understand the mechanism whereby, as you imply, it will be used to kill folk going forward.

 

One area of concern is 'immune enhancement':

 

''Studies have suggested that coronavirus vaccines carry the risk of what is known as vaccine enhancement, where instead of protecting against infection, the vaccine can actually make the disease worse when a vaccinated person is infected with the virus. The mechanism that causes that risk is not fully understood and is one of the stumbling blocks that has prevented the successful development of a coronavirus vaccine.

Normally, researchers would take months to test for the possibility of vaccine enhancement in animals. Given the urgency to stem the spread of the new coronavirus, some drugmakers are moving straight into small-scale human tests, without waiting for the completion of such animal tests.

“I understand the importance of accelerating timelines for vaccines in general, but from everything I know, this is not the vaccine to be doing it with,” Dr Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, told Reuters.

Hotez worked on development of a vaccine for SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome), the coronavirus behind a major 2003 outbreak, and found that some vaccinated animals developed more severe disease compared with unvaccinated animals when they were exposed to the virus.

“There is a risk of immune enhancement,” said Hotez. “The way you reduce that risk is first you show it does not occur in laboratory animals.”''

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-insight-idUSKBN20Y1GZ

 

 

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FrankVitali

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27 minutes ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

Tor isn’t considered a serious security or Anon solution

Folk mostly encounter tor these days while attempting to access forbidden restricted content on what novices and the media have coined “the dark web”

 

IMO recommending tor as a genuine security solution would be on par with recommending Fox News for honest news content

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok guys,,,  @lake and @oneantisworthtenofyou, well thanks for your input -- it is enlightening. See I wasn't aware of that. 

 

Btw mods sorry to derail a tad, but it is important,  ..   is there any solution then to anonymity?  I actually feel this needs its own thread making.

 

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14 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

German Doctor has no knock raid on his house as result of a livestream about covid fraud. 

 

Grab it while it is still there and I don't care that it is in German, we can get a translation later .... this is the last live stream, yesterday and it ends with the police!

About 47mins.

 

 

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Macnamara

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10 minutes ago, lake said:

Grab it while it is still there and I don't care that it is in German, we can get a translation later .... this is the last live stream, yesterday and it ends with the police!

About 47mins.

 

They are always telling us as they roll out more surveillance that 'if you have nothing to hide then why should your fear scrutiny?'

 

Well i think its time we turned that round on them....

 

If they have nothing to hide why are they constantly trying to suppress our freedom of speech and investigations into matters?

 

They clearly fear scrutiny but the difference is we are private individuals who are due some privacy while they are public persons who SHOULD be held accountable

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13 minutes ago, lake said:

Grab it while it is still there and I don't care that it is in German, we can get a translation later .... this is the last live stream, yesterday and it ends with the police!

About 47mins.

 

 Don't worry about u-tube, here is a short version of it on 153news.net

Dr. Andeas Noack arrested by Gestapo on livestream

 

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=HAU3HGO6XUAX

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5 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

If it's not the right sought of COVID chit chat, the official government line, one could have the SAS crashing through the windows.

 

Interesting, the plod say the Islamist and far-right groups were using false anti-vax claims to radicalise followers.  Time for the Islamic & English Defence League? 🙂

 

If they crash through my windows they'll find a tea drinking, bookish, hard working, honest-living, family man with no affiliations to any extreme groups whatsoever

 

Any surveillance of me would send you to sleep.

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2 minutes ago, alexa said:

Don't worry about u-tube, here is a short version of it on 153news.net

Dr. Andeas Noack arrested by Gestapo on livestream

 

Ta but I have that .... I wanted the full version to see why .... and the video he did before?

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Golden Retriever

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26 minutes ago, lake said:

 

Grab it while it is still there and I don't care that it is in German, we can get a translation later .... this is the last live stream, yesterday and it ends with the police!

About 47mins.

 

 

 

 

I think that's his own Youtube Channel and from the description translated by Google

it says

 

"Dr. Andreas Noack is one of the best known and most popular experts when it comes to nutrition, nutrients and health. Many feel trapped in an impenetrable labyrinth in the face of the contradictory flood of information of the most varied of information flood. They see themselves simply overwhelmed, no longer believe in any dietary recommendations and then just eat / drink what tastes good - what their desire drives them to do. Of course, this does not lead to the desired result in the long run. The alleged culprit is quickly identified: our own genes, our own weak will - we submit to fate."

 

I've no idea what he was talking about during that livestream. Possibly good nutrition to fight viruses and health related to Covid.  Although that wouldn't fit in with the Simpsons/Trump images on his screen.

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Macnamara

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5 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I read the full article and it doesn't even say what these claims are. How can these insufferable jobsworths have a "nationwide debate" when they're scared to debate? They will just cherry-pick the views of milquetoast idiots or just debate with folks that glow.

 

They don't mean that a public debate open to the public will be held

 

They mean that they will stage-manage some discussions on TV and radio where their hand picked propagandists create a new overton window of permitted discourse within which are the matters which the public are allowed themselves to discuss over their garden fence with their neighbours

 

What they will not do is have an honest probe into matters that allows us as a country to get down to the REAL truth of whats going on

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