Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Nip]

10 minutes ago, zArk said:

is she actually talking to children or to adults?

 

i am mightily confused but positive shes a complete &@**

 

You might be a doctor too

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

Follow the money here folks.

 

I wonder how much was charged by the pharmaceutical companies for each vial of vaccine through their contracts with the governments of the world? 
Are we talking pence each or pounds? 

[Observations]

1 hour ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Follow the money here folks.

 

I wonder how much was charged by the pharmaceutical companies for each vial of vaccine through their contracts with the governments of the world? 
Are we talking pence each or pounds? 

 

"But it's free"  

 

Yes, I would like to know the cost 

 

IMF said "spend, spend, spend"

 

Barely a word about the cost, just how easy and cheap it was to borrow, and we might never have to pay it back, and how very generous Sunak was. 

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

43 minutes ago, Observations said:

 

"But it's free"  

 

Yes, I would like to know the cost 

 

IMF said "spend, spend, spend"

 

Barely a word about the cost, just how easy and cheap it was to borrow, and we might never have to pay it back, and how very generous Sunak was. 

I suppose my question was to get a picture of how much the companies actually made.

 

Considering sunak invested in one of the vaccines years before this all started, I’d say it was a lot.

 

The returns from all this death must have been amazing, dwarfing the Mone/ppe scandal. 
 

We’re talking hundreds of millions, if not billions in profit, depending on the size of the contracts. 

This will be the next big scandal if it ever makes it into the publics brains. 
 

Judging by their reactions to the pandemic and the coercion that followed, they wouldn’t care less, as long as they can still get their papers and pints, bread and circuses, it won’t matter to them. 

[XelNaga]

4 hours ago, Freaky Dragonfly said:

 

What is pfp?

Profile picture 

[XelNaga]

20 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

according to her, she is:

Opinion

Finally, an answer for Johnson & Johnson vaccine recipients. Here’s what I chose.

By Leana S. Wen

Contributing columnist

Updated October 20, 2021 at 5:56 p.m. EDT|Published October 20, 2021 at 11:03 a.m. EDT

After months of waiting, I finally received my second coronavirus vaccine shot.

It’s not that I’ve procrastinated. Like 15 million Americans, I was initially inoculated with the one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Since then, I’ve been watching with growing concern as more and more studies emerged that showed one dose of J&J is inferior to the two-dose mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna).

 

 

Fortunately, the Food and Drug Administration has just authorized the second dose of the J&J vaccine for everyone who received the first dose. It is also allowing a “mix and match” approach, such that J&J recipients can receive a Pfizer or Moderna shot as their second dose.

 

I strongly support this approach. It allows for needed flexibility by local health departments, pharmacies and other vaccine providers to more rapidly administer boosters. It also empowers people to choose based on their preferences and medical circumstances.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/20/leana-wen-johnson-johnson-booster-pfizer/

 

It's like, if you only smoke weed, you are just high. If you only drink alcohol, you are just drunk.

 

But, if you mix weed with alcohol, you are wasted like a motherfucker.

[XelNaga]

20 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

the state and the cabal that runs it has much of the power in that they hold much of the wealth and they control many of the platforms that put information out publically and they control the legislation and much of the judiciary, police and armed forces

 

What we the people have though is SAFETY IN NUMBERS. This means if we act as one, together we have power. If we divide and don't pull together then  they can isolate people and groups and lean on them.

 

If people had stood as one we could have sent this whole agenda packing. Ok at the beginning there was a lot of fear and uncertainty about what was going on and its understandable that some people might have been fooled into this. But i really feel that there are certain lines in the sand the public should not have allowed the state to cross for example jabbing children and pregnant mothers especially as there was no evidence young people were at threat from this. Also i feel more people should have used common sense to question if 'locking down' and destroying the economy was really the best way to 'save the NHS' or 'public health' when its well known that a) poverty kills and b) the NHS needs tax revenue to survive so why destroy the tax base?

 

Locking down was always going to have a mammoth cost.

 

Now we are at another line in the sand which i really feel people should have stood up and held which is that there is now clear evidence that there is higher than normal 'all cause mortality' and higher than normal stillbirths and miscarriages.

 

If mass death is not enough to stir people into outrage then you have to wonder what would

But, higher mortality rate is because of convid, how can't you see that?

 

It's what the imbeciles tell me when I say it's because of kill-jabs.

[XelNaga]

20 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

that's called 'blackmail'. Its a form of gangsterism. So really what we need to ask, as members of the public, is whether we think it is right to allow bullies to walk all over us or not?

 

Since when was allowing tyranny to put its jackboot on your neck a virtue? Is this not the country of robin hood?

USA is the main tyrant on this planet for a while, and all this shit started from there, so...

[XelNaga]

19 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Surrounded by them.

 

Its all la la land and happy happy death brigade

 

I told plenty of people not to get it hoping I could lead by example but did they listen? 
 

I knew one woman- a delivery driver, she got the jab twice. Two weeks later she had to have someone in the passenger seat monitoring her on deliveries because she was so f**ked from the vaccine. Could barely drive. Headaches nausea, most likely dead by now. 

Damn, women drivers are a risk even without the jab 

[Nip]

6 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

But, higher mortality rate is because of convid, how can't you see that?

 

It's what the imbeciles tell me when I say it's because of kill-jabs.

 

So flu can give you heart attacks, causes you to drop dead suddently  and much more ? Yeah, right. Sure  

Edited December 27, 2022 by Nip

[XelNaga]

19 hours ago, sock muppet said:

 

And lets not forget Albert Bourla was demanding these Doctors and experts be rounded up and arrested, the fukin cheek of it, especially since his qualifications to speak is as a VET!!!

No no, he has a point: they look at us, normal people, like we are animals..

[XelNaga]

2 minutes ago, Nip said:

 

So flu can give you heart attacks, causes you to drop dead suddently  and much more ? Yeah, right. Sure  

Imbeciles think so 

[Nip]

1 minute ago, XelNaga said:

No no, he has a point: they look at us, normal people, like we are animals..

 

Us being animals doesn't help but I'll leave that to another thread

[XelNaga]

9 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

 

This was what I posted below. Essentially my feeling is that as we had/have 70+ aged leaders (Trump/Biden) they were far too ready to take medical advice, and fatty Johnson a tail end boomer felt just as vulnerable as Biden due to his immense mass.

 

***********************

 

Never again should a President or PM who puts geriatric self interest ahead of society be elected. Both Trump and Biden were over 70 when elected, and it seems their administrations were happy to block all views on Twitter questioning the official narrative pushed by the Government

 

The same also applied to old fatties like BJ in the UK.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11574573/Twitter-suppressed-covid-information-doctors-experts.html

 

Anyway, the above article lays clear how the truth was suppressed. Even views saying whilst the vax might be important for older people, young people with prior infection and natural immunity didn't need it got banned! And this was statements quoting CDC data made by medics!

 

To me it is clear the Governments just wanted as many shots out there as possible. My view is they were gullible fools who thought the jab would protect "old folk like them" and stop the spread. All of which was bollocks - seems our leaders were as gullible as those people who fall for scam phone calls!!

 

 

My opinion is that only people aged 25-55 should be in politics. Younger than 25, they have no clue about life. Older than 55, they are already "too old" to be able to adapt to the changes of the world. It's ridiculous that people like Biden or Trump decide anything for the young people.

Edited December 27, 2022 by XelNaga
I wrote 45 years, but 55 should be the limit.

[XelNaga]

4 hours ago, SimonTV said:

No, this is wrong. All the info was available, at least at DI forum. Who wanted to know the truth and facts, had the means for it. The sheeple simply don't like using their own mind, it's too hard for them.

[Nip]

4 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

My opinion is that only people aged 25-45 should be in politics. Younger than 25, they have no clue about life. Older than 45, they are already "too old" to be able to adapt to the changes of the world. It's ridiculous that people like Biden or Trump decide anything for the young people.

 

That's  actually one criteria that the WEF want future leaders to be. Just sayin'

[XelNaga]

Just now, Nip said:

 

That's  actually one criteria that the WEF want future leaders to be. Just sayin'

Oh damn, I might be evil without even realising it 

[Campion]

4 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

My opinion is that only people aged 25-45 should be in politics. Younger than 25, they have no clue about life. Older than 45, they are already "too old" to be able to adapt to the changes of the world. It's ridiculous that people like Biden or Trump decide anything for the young people.

 

 That's divide and rule in another guise. I would prefer to have most decisions taken with referendums, we could have them monthly with any decisions needed. Then we can't blame politicians so much. But if we're still hypnotised by the MSM we'd get bad results too I guess.  

[XelNaga]

3 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

 That's divide and rule in another guise. I would prefer to have most decisions taken with referendums, we could have them monthly with any decisions needed. Then we can't blame politicians so much. But if we're still hypnotised by the MSM we'd get bad results too I guess.  

That is how in my country (a fictional one) decisions would be made, every single citisen would vote for any decision. Thus there would be no "politicians", it would be a true democracy (the rule of the people). Unfortunately, we don't live there 

[Nip]

26 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

That is how in my country (a fictional one) decisions would be made, every single citisen would vote for any decision. Thus there would be no "politicians", it would be a true democracy (the rule of the people). Unfortunately, we don't live there 

 

How about first, we look back at all the laws made in the past 50 years and have a referendum on the ones deserving to be dumped

 

Apologies; off-topic

Edited December 27, 2022 by Nip

[XelNaga]

8 minutes ago, Nip said:

 

How about first, we look back at all the laws made in the past 50 years and have a referendum on the ones deserving to be dumped

Oh, 100%. Many would be dumped. Laws made by corrupt people would be discarded right away.

[Freaky Dragonfly]

1 hour ago, XelNaga said:

That is how in my country (a fictional one) decisions would be made, every single citisen would vote for any decision. Thus there would be no "politicians", it would be a true democracy (the rule of the people). Unfortunately, we don't live there 

 

It's called Direct Democracy and it would mean that every day (after work) you will have to spend about an hour of your life to vote on this and that before you can take your shoes off and rest. Let alone learn all the details of what you are voting on.

[XelNaga]

6 minutes ago, Freaky Dragonfly said:

 

It's called Direct Democracy and it would mean that every day (after work) you will have to spend about an hour of your life to vote on this and that before you can take your shoes off and rest. Let alone learn all the details of what you are voting on.

Hey, one hour a day is a small price to pay. I would agree to have only 23 hours in a day if that would mean that evil scumbags won't make decisions for me and my family.

[Human10]

2 hours ago, XelNaga said:

My opinion is that only people aged 25-55 should be in politics. Younger than 25, they have no clue about life. Older than 55, they are already "too old" to be able to adapt to the changes of the world. It's ridiculous that people like Biden or Trump decide anything for the young people.

Well... I also wouldn't mind to retire 55... Have you noticed how they increase the working age at the same time complaining there won't be jobs for everyone? Hypocrisy...  Maybe we have to choose old farts to prove that anyone can work till drop dead. 

[Nip]

4 hours ago, Human10 said:

 

 

     

Edited December 27, 2022 by Nip