zArk Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, sock muppet said: This bloke knew a thing or two, so they blew his head off. The last refuge of the scoundrel IS the politician, and right now all politician's stand before us NAKED for who they are. Never forget this, and stand for it, even if it costs your life. as amazing as che guevara he made enemies of cia, mafia, teamsters and anticastro cubans butvthat doesnt mean he was golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: CNN medical analyst who said the unvaccinated should not be able to travel changes her tune, emphasizes benefits of natural immunity December 23, 2022 A CNN medical analyst who promoted lockdowns and vaccination requirements and at one stage claimed "we can't trust the unvaccinated" has taken to the pages of the Washington Post to confirm claims that were up until recently derided as misinformation. The so-called health expert now admits that natural immunity is optimal and that those who are vaccinated but had not previously caught COVID-19 are more susceptible to infection. While some may be happy to see these long-censored claims printed in the Washington Post, others have suggested that what is missing from these public confirmations is an apology. What are the details? Leana Wen is an emergency doctor and professor of health policy and management at the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health. She was previously president of Planned Parenthood and has also served as a medical analyst on CNN. On Dec. 9, Wen wrote an op-ed in the Post calling for an end to the vaccine mandate for members of the military. Wen also suggested that "businesses, universities, schools and other entities that were once justified in implementing these requirements should consider removing them, too." The CNN analyst appeared to defend stances she had taken earlier in the pandemic, claiming that "when the coronavirus vaccines were first made available, there was a compelling case for requiring them." However, Wen noted that things and standards changed when the Omicron variant turned up. Wen said that research has shown that vaccines' "effectiveness in reducing infection against the omicron subvariants is low and not lasting." She cited a recent study in "Nature Communications," which found that "effectiveness against infection was about 50 percent in the first three months after vaccination but declined to around 10 percent or below thereafter." In a study published in the "New England Journal of Medicine," Wen noted researchers found "that there was no difference in infection rates between people who received two doses of the vaccine six months earlier and those who remained unvaccinated." Wen further noted in her piece, which would likely have been censored online earlier this year, that the new bivalent booster targeting Omicron is not particularly effective against infection. Potentially running afoul of the mRNA vaccines' most outspoken champions, like Dr. Anthony Fauci, Wen claimed that public health officials must be up front that the coronavirus vaccine is not equivalent to far more effective real vaccines, such as those used to treat polio or measles. "Young, healthy people, most of whom already had covid, are very unlikely to become severely ill, and there is little, if any, lasting difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated people’s likelihood of infecting others," wrote Wen. In another shibboleth-violating op-ed published Dec. 18, Wen stated, "Abundant research shows natural immunity conveys excellent protection against covid. One Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found that vaccinated people who never had covid were at least three times as likely to be infected as unvaccinated people with prior infection." She also cited a Lancet study that found "that those who were vaccinated but never had covid were four times as likely to have severe illness resulting in hospitalization or death compared to the unvaccinated who recovered from it." The piece points out that an Israeli study published in the "New England Journal of Medicine" compared a group of vaccinated people who had never had COVID-19 and a group of people who had not been vaccinated but had been previously infected with COVID-19. It turns out that the first group had "twice the number of infections as the second" just two months after their shots, and after six months, the "first group's infection rate was nearly three times higher than the second's." Although Wen had previously supported vaccinating children, she cited CDC analysis indicating that over 90% of adolescents have contracted the virus, meaning they likely benefit from the natural immunity touted earlier in the piece. After questioning the utility and good of vaccine mandates, Wen highlighted the dangers they pose — which were previously unacknowledgeable on social media. Wen referenced two sets of statistics, one from the CDC and the second from a Canadian database; the first showing that there are 39 myocarditis cases per million second doses among males 18 to 24 and the second showing that there are 22 cases for every 100,000 doses for men ages 18 to 29. About-face and backlash Wen has ostensibly come a long way in her thinking in a short period of time. In July 2021, Wen spoke to Democracy Now! bemoaning vaccine hesitancy and claiming that "we know that we can't trust the unvaccinated." When the Delta variant turned up, Wen told CNN that "it needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated." http://www.yourdestinationnow.com/2022/12/cnn-medical-analyst-who-said.html IMHO. she's still a fucking bitch ! (skuse language) Edited December 24, 2022 by Nip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/24/maxi-jazz-lead-singer-of-faithless-dies-aged-65 Maxi Jazz of Faithless dies age 65. Jabbed? Nice bloke, shook his hand at a gig at Cambridge Junction. RIP Maxi Edited December 24, 2022 by LastOneLeftInTheCounty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, zArk said: he made enemies of cia, mafia, teamsters and anticastro cubans butvthat doesnt mean he was golden. And the Israelis. Also Kennedy instructed the US Treasury to print gold-backed dollars. Jim Marrs believed that was the tipping point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: CNN medical analyst who said the unvaccinated should not be able to travel changes her tune, emphasizes benefits of natural immunity December 23, 2022 A CNN medical analyst who promoted lockdowns and vaccination requirements and at one stage claimed "we can't trust the unvaccinated" has taken to the pages of the Washington Post to confirm claims that were up until recently derided as misinformation. The so-called health expert now admits that natural immunity is optimal and that those who are vaccinated but had not previously caught COVID-19 are more susceptible to infection. While some may be happy to see these long-censored claims printed in the Washington Post, others have suggested that what is missing from these public confirmations is an apology. What are the details? Leana Wen is an emergency doctor and professor of health policy and management at the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health. She was previously president of Planned Parenthood and has also served as a medical analyst on CNN. On Dec. 9, Wen wrote an op-ed in the Post calling for an end to the vaccine mandate for members of the military. Wen also suggested that "businesses, universities, schools and other entities that were once justified in implementing these requirements should consider removing them, too." The CNN analyst appeared to defend stances she had taken earlier in the pandemic, claiming that "when the coronavirus vaccines were first made available, there was a compelling case for requiring them." However, Wen noted that things and standards changed when the Omicron variant turned up. Wen said that research has shown that vaccines' "effectiveness in reducing infection against the omicron subvariants is low and not lasting." She cited a recent study in "Nature Communications," which found that "effectiveness against infection was about 50 percent in the first three months after vaccination but declined to around 10 percent or below thereafter." In a study published in the "New England Journal of Medicine," Wen noted researchers found "that there was no difference in infection rates between people who received two doses of the vaccine six months earlier and those who remained unvaccinated." Wen further noted in her piece, which would likely have been censored online earlier this year, that the new bivalent booster targeting Omicron is not particularly effective against infection. Potentially running afoul of the mRNA vaccines' most outspoken champions, like Dr. Anthony Fauci, Wen claimed that public health officials must be up front that the coronavirus vaccine is not equivalent to far more effective real vaccines, such as those used to treat polio or measles. "Young, healthy people, most of whom already had covid, are very unlikely to become severely ill, and there is little, if any, lasting difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated people’s likelihood of infecting others," wrote Wen. In another shibboleth-violating op-ed published Dec. 18, Wen stated, "Abundant research shows natural immunity conveys excellent protection against covid. One Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found that vaccinated people who never had covid were at least three times as likely to be infected as unvaccinated people with prior infection." She also cited a Lancet study that found "that those who were vaccinated but never had covid were four times as likely to have severe illness resulting in hospitalization or death compared to the unvaccinated who recovered from it." The piece points out that an Israeli study published in the "New England Journal of Medicine" compared a group of vaccinated people who had never had COVID-19 and a group of people who had not been vaccinated but had been previously infected with COVID-19. It turns out that the first group had "twice the number of infections as the second" just two months after their shots, and after six months, the "first group's infection rate was nearly three times higher than the second's." Although Wen had previously supported vaccinating children, she cited CDC analysis indicating that over 90% of adolescents have contracted the virus, meaning they likely benefit from the natural immunity touted earlier in the piece. After questioning the utility and good of vaccine mandates, Wen highlighted the dangers they pose — which were previously unacknowledgeable on social media. Wen referenced two sets of statistics, one from the CDC and the second from a Canadian database; the first showing that there are 39 myocarditis cases per million second doses among males 18 to 24 and the second showing that there are 22 cases for every 100,000 doses for men ages 18 to 29. About-face and backlash Wen has ostensibly come a long way in her thinking in a short period of time. In July 2021, Wen spoke to Democracy Now! bemoaning vaccine hesitancy and claiming that "we know that we can't trust the unvaccinated." When the Delta variant turned up, Wen told CNN that "it needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated." http://www.yourdestinationnow.com/2022/12/cnn-medical-analyst-who-said.html Another 'turncoat' who probably got saline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: CNN medical analyst who said the unvaccinated should not be able to travel changes her tune, emphasizes benefits of natural immunity So we go full circle as I remember one of Bojo's early speeches on covid was to just protect the vulnerable and let the rest of us get herd immunity the natural way. Before someone got to change his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Campion said: So we go full circle as I remember one of Bojo's early speeches on covid was to just protect the vulnerable and let the rest of us get herd immunity the natural way. Before someone got to change his mind. Protect the vulnerable with an experimental injection?, to willfully carry out an experiment on old defenseless people that were isolated from their families?, what part of experimentation have we forgotten?, what part of Britannia and her peoples do we consider expendable?, who is it we throw to the wolves to protect those that lied and deceived us by?, for what reason was this done, a virus?, where is this virus?, what was the path of transmission?, what have they injected these victims with?, before someone changed his mind?, what makes you so sure that this was not the plan all along?, why have you accepted the narrative to sugar coat the outrageous lie?, why did he allow the MSM to brain wash an unsuspecting public?, why did MSM do absolutely no investigation into these experimental injections?, 14 days to flatten the curve, why did he allow this to continue for almost two years?, why was the plan to have everyone experimentally injected?, why did so many including myself stand and be counted, to reject, refuse and rebuke this outrage, did we do this by not seeing the truth of it all?. Answer all these questions and you will have the true monster revealed to your eye's, it may frighten you when you realise just how depraved and evil this man is, psychopath puts it mildly and kindly for what he represents. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornsteve Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/24/maxi-jazz-lead-singer-of-faithless-dies-aged-65 Maxi Jazz of Faithless dies age 65. Jabbed? Nice bloke, shook his hand at a gig at Cambridge Junction. RIP Maxi Edited December 24, 2022 by rebornsteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, rebornsteve said: Oh dear ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, rebornsteve said: HFS. It just keeps getting sadder. why the fuck did so many people offer themselves up to experimental gene therapy? How fucking stupid can you be? Getting fucking angry now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: HFS. It just keeps getting sadder. why the fuck did so many people offer themselves up to experimental gene therapy? How fucking stupid can you be? Getting fucking angry now. It is what it is, I'm afraid. As the old adage says: “God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.” Edited December 24, 2022 by Nip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Just now, Nip said: It is what it is, I'm afraid Yeah I’m starting to see that. it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, didn’t anyone see the letters ‘mRNA’ on the vial and think- ‘hmm, RNA is an instruction manual for my DNA, maybe I should think twice about having my genes messed with’???? Its fucking nonsensical. Nip- I take it you weren’t vaccinated? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Just now, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: Yeah I’m starting to see that. it’s just so ridiculous, I mean, didn’t anyone see the letters ‘mRNA’ on the vial and think- ‘hmm, RNA is an instruction manual for my DNA, maybe I should think twice about having my genes messed with’???? Its fucking nonsensical. Nip- I take it you weren’t vaccinated? correct. I probably wouldn't be here if I were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Just now, Nip said: correct. I probably wouldn't be here if I were. Good on you and everyone else who stood up or hid away and stuck to their guns. The moment I saw RNA mentioned it was a fucking no brainer. Coercion was the cause. And media manipulation. And greed. And stupidity. Someone’s already said this but it’s true- the vaccine was the purpose, the end goal, the virus was the means. It could have been any old virus. For fucks sake SARS has been around since 1995. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: Good on you and everyone else who stood up or hid away and stuck to their guns. The moment I saw RNA mentioned it was a fucking no brainer. Coercion was the cause. And media manipulation. And greed. And stupidity. Someone’s already said this but it’s true- the vaccine was the purpose, the end goal, the virus was the means. It could have been any old virus. For fucks sake SARS has been around since 1995. Mind you, IMO, I think there are more of 'US' than we probably think. I don't personally know of anyone else but I'm pretty much ant-social and keep to myself. A kind of loner, I suppose. I suppose it takes all kinds Edited December 24, 2022 by Nip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Nip said: It is what it is, I'm afraid. As the old adage says: “God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.” It’s ok you don’t have quote bible stuff, I’m immune to religious fishing and recruitment. Already had Christian’s, Muslims, jo hos, far right, far left try to recruit me. Will never give in otherwise I’d lose my spirit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Nip said: Mind you, IMO, I think there are more of 'US' than we probably think. I don't personally know of anyone else but I'm pretty much ant-social and keep to myself. A kind of loner, I suppose. I suppose it takes all kinds Same here and yes same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: It’s ok you don’t have quote bible stuff, I’m immune to religious fishing and recruitment. Already had Christian’s, Muslims, jo hos, far right, far left try to recruit me. Will never give in otherwise I’d lose my spirit JFYI, it's not from the bible or anything religion-related. Never mind, anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, rebornsteve said: Well we don't need to speculate on this occasion, do we, it's right there for us to join the dots. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Well we don't need to speculate on this occasion, do we, it's right there for us to join the dots. It appears that those so-called 'celebs' most outspoken against the unvaccinated are not lasting very long. I had never given much credibility to the idea of Karma before. Edited December 24, 2022 by Nip 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, Nip said: JFYI, it's not from the bible or anything religion-related. Never mind, anyway Sorry Nip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Just now, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: Sorry Nip! No problemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youknownothingbutyou Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nip said: It appears that those so-called 'celebs' most outspoken against the unvaccinated are not lasting very long. I had never given much credibility to the idea of Karma before. As a buddhist, im not surprised. Im sad for that fact, but you cant publicly shame beings to exercise their rights to not want a injection for a disease with a median age of death of 82. Those beings have been publicly encouraging people to danger, willingly and unwillignly. Those sheep simply cannot trust their fellow humans, they have decided to reject the opinions of millions in favor of what exactly? The media? Big pharma? A couple of years ago, everyone knew we had to be careful about big pharma. Now, with covid, we should trust them blindly? i think most sheep are partially aware of the possible scam, yet keep on pushing the agenda for their own ego. i think those that are sadly passin after wishing the death or disease or segregation of the unvaxed are beings with serious mental issues. .””““Kamma, actually, just means action. In the India of the Buddha, that's how it was understood. In order to make people aware of what it really implies, the Buddha said: "Kamma, oh monks, I declare, is intention," which arises first in our thoughts, then generates speech and action. This was the new interpretation that the Buddha gave to kamma, because it was largely misunderstood and used as predetermined destiny. There were teachers in his day that taught it that way, which was denounced by the Buddha as wrong view, misleading and liable to have unwholesome results. This view of pre-determined destiny is just as rampant today as it was at the Buddha's time. It is often voiced like this: "There's nothing I can do about it, it's my kamma." This is the greatest folly one can adhere to, because it puts the onus of one's own intentions on some nebulous previous person whom one doesn't even know. In other words, one doesn't take responsibility for one's own actions, which is a very common failing Kamma is intention, and intention is now, which means kamma is being made now, in every waking moment. However when two people make the same kamma, they do not get the same results. This is another point the Buddha emphasized. Since kamma is impersonal, it is strictly concerned with a flow of events which are creating results by themselves. It's a matter of cause and effect. That's all there is, and the Buddha's teaching is sometimes called the teaching of cause and effect. Sometimes we see people who are very nice, they would not hurt a fly, and yet a lot of misfortune befalls them. Or others who are difficult and unfriendly, but everything always seems to go right for them. How is it possible? It depends entirely upon their accumulations of good or bad kamma that have resulted in their particular mind continuum. The Buddha gave the following simile: "If one puts a teaspoon of salt in a cup of water, that cup becomes undrinkable. If one puts a teaspoon of salt in the Ganges River, it doesn't make the slightest difference to the river, the water remains exactly the same." If one makes bad kamma and has only a cupful of good kamma; the results will be disastrous. If one has a river full of good kamma to support one, the results will be negligible. Therefore, we can never compare the results that people have, because we don't know their past histories. ” Edited December 24, 2022 by Youknownothingbutyou 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: think those that are sadly passin after wishing the death or disease or segregation of the unvaxed are beings with serious mental issues. media induced hysteria, tow the line, get the££££££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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