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1 hour ago, rideforever said:

Yeadon : PCR test is bogus


Top aint he

"I am not a pathologist so i cant comment"

"Oh yes 40,000 died of covid19 in march april"


His perspective on pcr and herd immunity can be useful to get the herd thinking but hes still part of the system

I.e a viral germ theory believer and evangelist

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5 hours ago, Velma said:

Volunteer vaccinators wanted!


If you are between the age of 18 and 69, have at least two or more A-levels or equivalent, be at low risk of COVID-19 and be prepared to undergo a reference check, you can jab people in make-shift clinics, like supermarkets or sports centers.




Unpaid people doing the work of nurses. That is a bloody good reason to have everyone down tools and all out on strike in the NHS.





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18 minutes ago, zArk said:

hes still part of the system


Yes ... he does try to reassure "science" whilst cutting them to ribbons, but what can he do that's his industry and his life.   However he does seem to be very sure something is very wrong.


I think he's wrong about why the PCR test is bogus, he said that industrialising it is causing contamination ... but that's not the reason.   The reason is that the labs are running 35-45 Amp Cycles in order to get lots of positives which makes them money.  No Government wants to buy a test that gets zero positives.


Anyway 35-45 Amp Cycles are prohibited in the guidance for using these tests, because everyone knows it causes "Artifacts" in the sample which test match the genetic signature ... although the patient's sample doesn't have anything matching in it.   Artifacts are never discussed by the PCR testers, because it makes the test look extremely unsound.


Artifacts means that ... the patient is swabbed and that swab has genetic material and its put into a test tube.   The way PCR words is that first this genetic info is "Amplified" then afterwards its tested to see if any genetic mateiral matches the sequence for SarsCov2.

Amplification means with clever molecules they are copying the RNA in the sample.  Say there is a RNA sequence,   A-B-C, then this is copied millions of times A-B-C, A-B-C, A-B-C.  and so on.

Problem is that from time to time errors creep in because the copying molecules could not finish the job in time and for other reasons.

So, A-B-C gets copied into A-B-C, A-B-C, but also A-B-B, A-C-C.

So now you have RNA in the test tube that is not from the patient..

It is introduced into his sample by errors in the copying mechanism.

Afterwards the sample is checked against the viral code, A-C-C ... and presto the patient is told they have  a positive test result.

But actually there is no A-C-C in the patient's body at all.


This is an "Artifacts", and when you do 35-45 Amplification Cycles you create so many Artifacts you can test positive for any disease known to man.


This is why the test labs are running at 35-45 Cycles ... because they know are going to get thousands and thousands of hits (false positves). 

And like I said the Government wants that ... they do not want a lab to say ... "er we tested everyone and nobody's got it".


Carry Mullis the inventor of PCR discussed this very point in the 80s with HIV/AIDS, and he said it was being used in the same way as today, for political reasons, with large number of Amp Cycles to create many hits there were in fact false because of "Artifacts".


45 Amp Cycles ; means that the sample goes through 45 separate cycles of multiplication, each on creating a few Artifacts, that in the next cycle are them selves multiplied.   The standard cut off is maybe 25 max cycles.   After that the test is unsound because there are too many Artifacts.   But I heard the NHS is used 45 Amp Cycles or something ridiculous.

In other words its a stitch up.


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Just now, zArk said:

Shocking admittance of 'adverse reactions'. Surely this vaxx is beautiful and maybe turn people into immortals


They are buying artificial intelligence to handle the levels of adverse reactions they are anticipating as a result of the vaccine roll out. They know it will cause massive harm

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16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

They are buying artificial intelligence to handle the levels of adverse reactions they are anticipating as a result of the vaccine roll out. They know it will cause massive harm

MHRA looks to AI to hunt for COVID-19 vaccine side effects

November 2, 2020

The UK drugs regulator has awarded a £1.5 million tender to a software company for an artificial intelligence tool that will be used to process “the expected high volume of COVID-19 vaccine adverse drug reactions (ADRs).”

The tender awarded to Maidenhead, Berkshire-based GenPact UK aims to “ensure that no details from the ADRs…are missed” as the UK prepares to start rolling out COVID-19 vaccines – assuming their safety and efficacy is supported in late-stage trials.

The company is a subsidiary of US group GenPact, which already offers an AI and machine learning based tool called Cora PharmacoVigilance that can be used to identify patterns in data to foresee potential side effects.

The contract from the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) recognises that the timelines for the development of coronavirus vaccines has been accelerated so fast that a complete picture of their safety may not be available when they start to be used in widespread immunisation campaigns.

Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair said this morning that the AstraZeneca/Oxford University adenovirus-based vaccine AZD1222 should be rolled as soon as possible – ideally in the month of November – as “it is essentially safe.”

He also called for experimental drugs being tested in the UK RECOVERY trial to be used in any hospitalised patients at risk of serious illness from COVID-19, in a foreword to a report on the pandemic published by the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change.

The MHRA told the Financial Times that based on historical vaccination data, it is expecting between 50,000 and 100,000 ADR reports for every 100 million doses delivered to patients over a six to 12 month period

The regulator also stressed that an ADR does not necessarily mean a true side effect has been observed, and AI would help spot any emerging safety signals.

The coronavirus vaccination programme would be larger than any adult campaign carried out to date, and the MHRA is concerned it could be derailed by “anti-vaccine social media activity and lobbying.”

The GenPact UK contract bypasses the usual “call for competition” tender process required by EU regulations, according to the MHRA, because if “reasons of extreme urgency”, and because it would not be feasible to “retrofit the MHRA’s legacy systems to handle the volume of ADRs that will be generated by a Covid-19 vaccine.”

The agency also says in the contract announcement that its proposed SafetyConnect programme,  for pharmacovigilance and medical device safety monitoring would not be ready by the expected coronavirus vaccine launch.


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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:


It's hard to know who is a bot on Reddit to be fair, and those that are real often follow groupthink. For the last few years leading up to covid, there has been a lot of posts mocking anti-vaxxers that make it to the front page on reddit, it doesn't look organic at all.



That is a relief. I'm not clued up on the world of bots, but I hope to goodness that's all it is :)


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42 minutes ago, zArk said:

Shocking admittance of 'adverse reactions'. Surely this vaxx is beautiful and maybe turn people into immortals

Quite a price to pay for immortality ...but i suppose in the grand scheme of things 1 life isnt much...unless it happens to be your own

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8 minutes ago, magu said:

Quite a price to pay for immortality ...but i suppose in the grand scheme of things 1 life isnt much...unless it happens to be your own

Ahh i still remember people saying

"Hes passed on"

Now they say

"Hes dead"


The next life is still awaiting, preparation is important but i wouldnt use christianities prep list 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

Are the government seeking to recruit psychopaths from all walks of life to carry out their MASS vaccination agenda?

Covid vaccine: Volunteers with no medical experience will be trained to give out jab 

St John Ambulance will deliver training so volunteers can inject patients, according to leaked plans

By Telegraph Reporters 17 November 2020 • 1:48am

Thousands of volunteers with no medical background at all could be trained up to administer the coronavirus vaccine in a bid to deliver the Government's mass immunisation plans. St John Ambulance will be one of the organisations delivering training to those who sign up, a representative for the charity confirmed on Monday evening. In plans leaked to the Daily Mail, St John Ambulance said future vaccine volunteers would "be trained to deliver the actual injection to patients". They would also have to "potentially react to any immediate adverse reactions".



Honey badgers....Fuck...they got honey badgers


Badgers - After School Activities - St John Ambulance | School Meme on ME.ME

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1 hour ago, rideforever said:

Say there is a RNA sequence,

Harold hillman spent his life trying to explain to people the fraud of modern biology based upon the electron microscope


Shapes, size, contents, order etc etc the cell we are taught is a lie


Check out harold on david crowes the infectious myth podcasts and here




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10 hours ago, Velma said:


From their own ingredients they admit, in a word, that their vaccine will create a CHIMERA!


The billion dollar question is, what are the other species? Part lion, part goat, part serpent?



The Ch in ChAdOx1 is an abbreviation for chimpanzee, I am not kidding.

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1 hour ago, magu said:

Honey badgers....Fuck...they got honey badgers


St Johns ambulances are an outgrowth of the Knights of St John of Jerusalem which merged with the knights templar in britain when the templars were shut down


So they are descended from the crusader hospitalliars and are an outgrowth of the secret society network



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Politicisation of science: ''When good science is suppressed, people die''


So what are we 'conspiracy theorists' claiming here? We are claiming that klaus schwab, the head of the world economic forum has written a book called 'the great reset' and that the globalist elites are now seeking to bring about that global reset to achieve what is also being called the 'fourth industrial revolution'.


We are arguing that they have planned a global pandemic in an event called 'Event 201' which they then took live to create this current covid plandemic and that the reason they have done this is to use the resulting state of emergency to crack down in freedom of speech whilst simultaneously forcing through their great reset


We are arguing that the science around vaccines is being politicised by those powerful interests who are at the same time using the state apparatus (working hand in glove with corrupt politicians who have been fluffed up by bill gates money) as well as the corporate media (also swimming in bill gates money) to create a climate of fear in which people are no longer able to discuss the potential dangers of vaccines


From the BMJ: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425



  1. Kamran Abbasi, executive editor

Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science

BMJ 2020; 371 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m4425 (Published 13 November 2020) Cite this as: BMJ 2020;371:m4425


When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die

Politicians and governments are suppressing science. They do so in the public interest, they say, to accelerate availability of diagnostics and treatments. They do so to support innovation, to bring products to market at unprecedented speed. Both of these reasons are partly plausible; the greatest deceptions are founded in a grain of truth. But the underlying behaviour is troubling.

Science is being suppressed for political and financial gain. Covid-19 has unleashed state corruption on a grand scale, and it is harmful to public health.1 Politicians and industry are responsible for this opportunistic embezzlement. So too are scientists and health experts. The pandemic has revealed how the medical-political complex can be manipulated in an emergency—a time when it is even more important to safeguard science.

The UK’s pandemic response provides at least four examples of suppression of science or scientists. First, the membership, research, and deliberations of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) were initially secret until a press leak forced transparency.2 The leak revealed inappropriate involvement of government advisers in SAGE, while exposing under-representation from public health, clinical care, women, and ethnic minorities. Indeed, the government was also recently ordered to release a 2016 report on deficiencies in pandemic preparedness, Operation Cygnus, following a verdict from the Information Commissioner’s Office.34

Next, a Public Health England report on covid-19 and inequalities. The report’s publication was delayed by England’s Department of Health; a section on ethnic minorities was initially withheld and then, following a public outcry, was published as part of a follow-up report.56 Authors from Public Health England were instructed not to talk to the media. Third, on 15 October, the editor of the Lancet complained that an author of a research paper, a UK government scientist, was blocked by the government from speaking to media because of a “difficult political landscape.”7

Now, a new example concerns the controversy over point-of-care antibody testing for covid-19.8 The prime minister’s Operation Moonshot depends on immediate and wide availability of accurate rapid diagnostic tests.9 It also depends on the questionable logic of mass screening—currently being trialled in Liverpool with a suboptimal PCR test.1011

The incident relates to research published this week by The BMJ, which finds that the government procured an antibody test that in real world tests falls well short of performance claims made by its manufacturers.1213 Researchers from Public Health England and collaborating institutions sensibly pushed to publish their study findings before the government committed to buying a million of these tests but were blocked by the health department and the prime minister’s office.14 Why was it important to procure this product without due scrutiny? Prior publication of research on a preprint server or a government website is compatible with The BMJ’s publication policy. As if to prove a point, Public Health England then unsuccessfully attempted to block The BMJ’s press release about the research paper.

Politicians often claim to follow the science, but that is a misleading oversimplification. Science is rarely absolute. It rarely applies to every setting or every population. It doesn’t make sense to slavishly follow science or evidence. A better approach is for politicians, the publicly appointed decision makers, to be informed and guided by science when they decide policy for their public. But even that approach retains public and professional trust only if science is available for scrutiny and free of political interference, and if the system is transparent and not compromised by conflicts of interest.

Suppression of science and scientists is not new or a peculiarly British phenomenon. In the US, President Trump’s government manipulated the Food and Drug Administration to hastily approve unproved drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir.15 Globally, people, policies, and procurement are being corrupted by political and commercial agendas.16

The UK’s pandemic response relies too heavily on scientists and other government appointees with worrying competing interests, including shareholdings in companies that manufacture covid-19 diagnostic tests, treatments, and vaccines.17 Government appointees are able to ignore or cherry pick science—another form of misuse—and indulge in anti-competitive practices that favour their own products and those of friends and associates.18

How might science be safeguarded in these exceptional times? The first step is full disclosure of competing interests from government, politicians, scientific advisers, and appointees, such as the heads of test and trace, diagnostic test procurement, and vaccine delivery. The next step is full transparency about decision making systems, processes, and knowing who is accountable for what.

Once transparency and accountability are established as norms, individuals employed by government should ideally only work in areas unrelated to their competing interests. Expertise is possible without competing interests. If such a strict rule becomes impractical, minimum good practice is that people with competing interests must not be involved in decisions on products and policies in which they have a financial interest.

Governments and industry must also stop announcing critical science policy by press release. Such ill judged moves leave science, the media, and stock markets vulnerable to manipulation. Clear, open, and advance publication of the scientific basis for policy, procurements, and wonder drugs is a fundamental requirement.19

The stakes are high for politicians, scientific advisers, and government appointees. Their careers and bank balances may hinge on the decisions that they make. But they have a higher responsibility and duty to the public. Science is a public good. It doesn’t need to be followed blindly, but it does need to be fairly considered. Importantly, suppressing science, whether by delaying publication, cherry picking favourable research, or gagging scientists, is a danger to public health, causing deaths by exposing people to unsafe or ineffective interventions and preventing them from benefiting from better ones. When entangled with commercial decisions it is also maladministration of taxpayers’ money.

Politicisation of science was enthusiastically deployed by some of history’s worst autocrats and dictators, and it is now regrettably commonplace in democracies.20 The medical-political complex tends towards suppression of science to aggrandise and enrich those in power. And, as the powerful become more successful, richer, and further intoxicated with power, the inconvenient truths of science are suppressed. When good science is suppressed, people die.



  1. Geoghegan P. Cronyism and clientelism. London Review of Books 2020 Nov 5. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n21/peter-geoghegan/cronyism-and-clientelism
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    2. Jacobson B,
    3. Abbasi K
    . The UK’s public health response to covid-19. BMJ2020;369:m1932. doi:10.1136/bmj.m1932 pmid:32414712
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    . Pandemic preparedness: Government must release 2016 report, says information commissioner. BMJ2020;371:m3953. doi:10.1136/bmj.m3953 pmid:33046458
  2. Department of Health and Social Care. Policy paper. Annex B: Exercise Cygnus report. 5 Nov 2020. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-pandemic-preparedness/exercise-cygnus-report-accessible-report
    1. Khunti K,
    2. Platt L,
    3. Routen A,
    4. Abbasi K
    . Covid-19 and ethnic minorities: an urgent agenda for overdue action. BMJ2020;369:m2503. doi:10.1136/bmj.m2503 pmid:32576558
  3. Horton R. Tweet, 15 Oct 2020.
  4. Boseley S. Antibody tests bought by UK government “less accurate than maker claims.” Guardian 2020 Nov 12. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-antibody-test-bought-uk-government-less-accurate-than-makers-claim
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    2. Coombes R
    . Covid-19: Government plans to spend £100bn on expanding testing to 10 million a day. BMJ2020;370:m3520. doi:10.1136/bmj.m3520 pmid:32907851
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    . Covid-19: mass population testing is rolled out in Liverpool. BMJ2020;371:m4268. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4268 pmid:33144291
    1. Iacobucci G
    . Covid-19: rapid test missed over 50% of positive cases in Manchester pilot. BMJ2020;371:m4323. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4323 pmid:33158908
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    2. Jones HE,
    3. Taylor-Phillips S,
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    5. EDSAB-HOME and COMPARE Investigators
    . Accuracy of UK Rapid Test Consortium (UK-RTC) “AbC-19 Rapid Test” for detection of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection in key workers: test accuracy study. BMJ2020;371:m4262.pmid:33177070
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    2. Ponsford MJ
    . Testing for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2. BMJ2020;371:m4288. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4288
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    . Covid-19: Government buried negative data on its favoured antibody test. BMJ2020;371:m4353. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4353
  5. Cohen K, Kupferschmidt K. The “very, very bad look” of remdesivir, the first FDA-approved COVID-19 drug. Science 2020 Oct 28. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/very-very-bad-look-remdesivir-first-fda-approved-covid-19-drug
  6. Transparency International. Corruption and covid-19—the story so far. 8 Jul 2020. https://www.transparency.org.uk/corruption-coronavirus-covid-19-latest
  7. Ennals E. Government test tsar has £770,000 shares in drugs firm that sold us £13million of “pointless” antibody screening kits—after it emerged that Sir Patrick Vallance has a financial interest in company racing to find vaccine. Daily Mail 2020 Sep 26. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776339/Test-tsar-770-000-shares-firm-sold-13million-pointless-antibody-screening-kits.html
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    . Covid-19: Government faces legal action over £75m contract for antibody tests. BMJ2020;371:m4427. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4427
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    . Covid-19: Vaccine candidate may be more than 90% effective, interim results indicate. BMJ2020;371:m4347. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4347 pmid:33168562
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    . Preparing democracies for pandemics. BMJ2020;371:m4088. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4088 pmid:33097482
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As much as i admire their work (in fact i've had training from them via a company i workd for with no complaints) i cant help but think that the thousands of wannabe paramedics and blue light orgasm fiends wont have a singular clue about the origins,much less care...However....The upper echelons of the St John brigade do and i dont know if you are aware but its still an order of chivalry in fact i have a miniature medal of the one illustrated on this page



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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science


  1. Horton R. Tweet, 15 Oct 2020.


the ''difficult political landscape''....i would call that a CLIMATE OF FEAR and we, the british people, whether in or out of uniforms eg police, medical, military etc need to start breaking that climate of fear by speaking out and exposing what information we have that is in the public interest


We need a trickle of truth telling to become an unstoppable torrent so that we can wash the wretched snakes in whitehall out of the corridors of power and into jail where they belong

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I posted that link on a thread in an ARRSE forum where a vaccine cultist was hell bent on spouting a load of unmitigated bollocks.....He read it and then came back with some obfuscation but you could just tell from the straws he was clinghing to in his arguments it had rattled his cage....which i can only take as a positive sign that perhaps more maskateers and vaxxinators may get rattled by the document...i live in hope

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:


the ''difficult political landscape''....i would call that a CLIMATE OF FEAR and we, the british people, whether in or out of uniforms eg police, medical, military etc need to start breaking that climate of fear by speaking out and exposing what information we have that is in the public interest


We need a trickle of truth telling to become an unstoppable torrent so that we can wash the wretched snakes in whitehall out of the corridors of power and into jail where they belong

I must admit i totally agree with you as ive seen the effect with the bmj i referenced above but also the basis for compulsory medical intervention ref vaxxines which i also posted from the journal of medical ethics....if its from a reputable site...isn't too long or obscure and its within the understanding of a lot of people then i say lets deluge them...ask any detractors to refute any claims and sit back and enjoy the show...i also remember the magazine article i posted some months ago about people with learning difficulties being given DNR's which i found abhorrent at the time but i feel its time to add that to my growing arsenal of links to documents they will have trouble refuting

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The 'vaxxers' always spout the same illogical crap.


"Your unvaccinated child is putting my vaccinated child at risk!!"


Eh? How exactly does that work? At risk from what? Logically this argument makes no sense.



And as for the 'Covid vaccine', well if 'Covid' has something like a 99.8% survival rate (based on various statistics being floated around the internet), what is the point in spending millions of pounds developing a 'vaccine' and then insisting that everybody should 'accept' it?


If Covid-19 really was a 'lethal and deadly' disease wiping out huge swathes of the population, I might be convinced a vaccine was worth having.


But then again I am a 'critical thinker', and I base my opinions not just on what I read about, but what I encounter and observe in my own daily life.

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