zArk Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, Macnamara said: They would also have to "potentially react to any immediate adverse reactions". Shocking admittance of 'adverse reactions'. Surely this vaxx is beautiful and maybe turn people into immortals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, zArk said: Shocking admittance of 'adverse reactions'. Surely this vaxx is beautiful and maybe turn people into immortals They are buying artificial intelligence to handle the levels of adverse reactions they are anticipating as a result of the vaccine roll out. They know it will cause massive harm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Macnamara said: They are buying artificial intelligence to handle the levels of adverse reactions they are anticipating as a result of the vaccine roll out. They know it will cause massive harm MHRA looks to AI to hunt for COVID-19 vaccine side effects Phil Taylor November 2, 2020 The UK drugs regulator has awarded a £1.5 million tender to a software company for an artificial intelligence tool that will be used to process “the expected high volume of COVID-19 vaccine adverse drug reactions (ADRs).” The tender awarded to Maidenhead, Berkshire-based GenPact UK aims to “ensure that no details from the ADRs…are missed” as the UK prepares to start rolling out COVID-19 vaccines – assuming their safety and efficacy is supported in late-stage trials. The company is a subsidiary of US group GenPact, which already offers an AI and machine learning based tool called Cora PharmacoVigilance that can be used to identify patterns in data to foresee potential side effects. The contract from the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) recognises that the timelines for the development of coronavirus vaccines has been accelerated so fast that a complete picture of their safety may not be available when they start to be used in widespread immunisation campaigns. Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair said this morning that the AstraZeneca/Oxford University adenovirus-based vaccine AZD1222 should be rolled as soon as possible – ideally in the month of November – as “it is essentially safe.” He also called for experimental drugs being tested in the UK RECOVERY trial to be used in any hospitalised patients at risk of serious illness from COVID-19, in a foreword to a report on the pandemic published by the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change. The MHRA told the Financial Times that based on historical vaccination data, it is expecting between 50,000 and 100,000 ADR reports for every 100 million doses delivered to patients over a six to 12 month period The regulator also stressed that an ADR does not necessarily mean a true side effect has been observed, and AI would help spot any emerging safety signals. The coronavirus vaccination programme would be larger than any adult campaign carried out to date, and the MHRA is concerned it could be derailed by “anti-vaccine social media activity and lobbying.” The GenPact UK contract bypasses the usual “call for competition” tender process required by EU regulations, according to the MHRA, because if “reasons of extreme urgency”, and because it would not be feasible to “retrofit the MHRA’s legacy systems to handle the volume of ADRs that will be generated by a Covid-19 vaccine.” The agency also says in the contract announcement that its proposed SafetyConnect programme, for pharmacovigilance and medical device safety monitoring would not be ready by the expected coronavirus vaccine launch. https://pharmaphorum.com/news/mhra-looks-to-ai-to-hunt-for-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Well it is a silly thing .... they would say "Well he has covid already!" But the bloke is like "What are you fucking clowns doing?" man in the back.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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allymisfit Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: It's hard to know who is a bot on Reddit to be fair, and those that are real often follow groupthink. For the last few years leading up to covid, there has been a lot of posts mocking anti-vaxxers that make it to the front page on reddit, it doesn't look organic at all. That is a relief. I'm not clued up on the world of bots, but I hope to goodness that's all it is :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, zArk said: Shocking admittance of 'adverse reactions'. Surely this vaxx is beautiful and maybe turn people into immortals Quite a price to pay for immortality ...but i suppose in the grand scheme of things 1 life isnt much...unless it happens to be your own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, magu said: Quite a price to pay for immortality ...but i suppose in the grand scheme of things 1 life isnt much...unless it happens to be your own Ahh i still remember people saying "Hes passed on" Now they say "Hes dead" The next life is still awaiting, preparation is important but i wouldnt use christianities prep list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: Are the government seeking to recruit psychopaths from all walks of life to carry out their MASS vaccination agenda? Covid vaccine: Volunteers with no medical experience will be trained to give out jab St John Ambulance will deliver training so volunteers can inject patients, according to leaked plans By Telegraph Reporters 17 November 2020 • 1:48am Thousands of volunteers with no medical background at all could be trained up to administer the coronavirus vaccine in a bid to deliver the Government's mass immunisation plans. St John Ambulance will be one of the organisations delivering training to those who sign up, a representative for the charity confirmed on Monday evening. In plans leaked to the Daily Mail, St John Ambulance said future vaccine volunteers would "be trained to deliver the actual injection to patients". They would also have to "potentially react to any immediate adverse reactions". https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/17/covid-vaccine-volunteers-no-medical-experience-will-trained/ Honey badgers....Fuck...they got honey badgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, rideforever said: Say there is a RNA sequence, Harold hillman spent his life trying to explain to people the fraud of modern biology based upon the electron microscope Shapes, size, contents, order etc etc the cell we are taught is a lie Check out harold on david crowes the infectious myth podcasts and here https://www.big-lies.org/harold-hillman-biology/index.html Edited November 17, 2020 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Anyone living in Scotland who tries to leave will be arrested. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8958053/Nicola-Sturgeon-announces-11-council-areas-moving-level-four.html Edited November 17, 2020 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny79 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Shocking William Wallace fought for freedom jimmy crankie has lost it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 The grandfather of 'The Sturgeon' would be feeling quite proud now no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamlinn Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Velma said: From their own ingredients they admit, in a word, that their vaccine will create a CHIMERA! The billion dollar question is, what are the other species? Part lion, part goat, part serpent? The Ch in ChAdOx1 is an abbreviation for chimpanzee, I am not kidding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, magu said: Honey badgers....Fuck...they got honey badgers St Johns ambulances are an outgrowth of the Knights of St John of Jerusalem which merged with the knights templar in britain when the templars were shut down So they are descended from the crusader hospitalliars and are an outgrowth of the secret society network Edited November 17, 2020 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Politicisation of science: ''When good science is suppressed, people die'' So what are we 'conspiracy theorists' claiming here? We are claiming that klaus schwab, the head of the world economic forum has written a book called 'the great reset' and that the globalist elites are now seeking to bring about that global reset to achieve what is also being called the 'fourth industrial revolution'. We are arguing that they have planned a global pandemic in an event called 'Event 201' which they then took live to create this current covid plandemic and that the reason they have done this is to use the resulting state of emergency to crack down in freedom of speech whilst simultaneously forcing through their great reset We are arguing that the science around vaccines is being politicised by those powerful interests who are at the same time using the state apparatus (working hand in glove with corrupt politicians who have been fluffed up by bill gates money) as well as the corporate media (also swimming in bill gates money) to create a climate of fear in which people are no longer able to discuss the potential dangers of vaccines From the BMJ: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425 Editorials Kamran Abbasi, executive editor Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science BMJ 2020; 371 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m4425 (Published 13 November 2020) Cite this as: BMJ 2020;371:m4425 When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die Politicians and governments are suppressing science. They do so in the public interest, they say, to accelerate availability of diagnostics and treatments. They do so to support innovation, to bring products to market at unprecedented speed. Both of these reasons are partly plausible; the greatest deceptions are founded in a grain of truth. But the underlying behaviour is troubling. Science is being suppressed for political and financial gain. Covid-19 has unleashed state corruption on a grand scale, and it is harmful to public health.1 Politicians and industry are responsible for this opportunistic embezzlement. So too are scientists and health experts. The pandemic has revealed how the medical-political complex can be manipulated in an emergency—a time when it is even more important to safeguard science. The UK’s pandemic response provides at least four examples of suppression of science or scientists. First, the membership, research, and deliberations of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) were initially secret until a press leak forced transparency.2 The leak revealed inappropriate involvement of government advisers in SAGE, while exposing under-representation from public health, clinical care, women, and ethnic minorities. Indeed, the government was also recently ordered to release a 2016 report on deficiencies in pandemic preparedness, Operation Cygnus, following a verdict from the Information Commissioner’s Office.34 Next, a Public Health England report on covid-19 and inequalities. The report’s publication was delayed by England’s Department of Health; a section on ethnic minorities was initially withheld and then, following a public outcry, was published as part of a follow-up report.56 Authors from Public Health England were instructed not to talk to the media. Third, on 15 October, the editor of the Lancet complained that an author of a research paper, a UK government scientist, was blocked by the government from speaking to media because of a “difficult political landscape.”7 Now, a new example concerns the controversy over point-of-care antibody testing for covid-19.8 The prime minister’s Operation Moonshot depends on immediate and wide availability of accurate rapid diagnostic tests.9 It also depends on the questionable logic of mass screening—currently being trialled in Liverpool with a suboptimal PCR test.1011 The incident relates to research published this week by The BMJ, which finds that the government procured an antibody test that in real world tests falls well short of performance claims made by its manufacturers.1213 Researchers from Public Health England and collaborating institutions sensibly pushed to publish their study findings before the government committed to buying a million of these tests but were blocked by the health department and the prime minister’s office.14 Why was it important to procure this product without due scrutiny? Prior publication of research on a preprint server or a government website is compatible with The BMJ’s publication policy. As if to prove a point, Public Health England then unsuccessfully attempted to block The BMJ’s press release about the research paper. Politicians often claim to follow the science, but that is a misleading oversimplification. Science is rarely absolute. It rarely applies to every setting or every population. It doesn’t make sense to slavishly follow science or evidence. A better approach is for politicians, the publicly appointed decision makers, to be informed and guided by science when they decide policy for their public. But even that approach retains public and professional trust only if science is available for scrutiny and free of political interference, and if the system is transparent and not compromised by conflicts of interest. Suppression of science and scientists is not new or a peculiarly British phenomenon. In the US, President Trump’s government manipulated the Food and Drug Administration to hastily approve unproved drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir.15 Globally, people, policies, and procurement are being corrupted by political and commercial agendas.16 The UK’s pandemic response relies too heavily on scientists and other government appointees with worrying competing interests, including shareholdings in companies that manufacture covid-19 diagnostic tests, treatments, and vaccines.17 Government appointees are able to ignore or cherry pick science—another form of misuse—and indulge in anti-competitive practices that favour their own products and those of friends and associates.18 How might science be safeguarded in these exceptional times? The first step is full disclosure of competing interests from government, politicians, scientific advisers, and appointees, such as the heads of test and trace, diagnostic test procurement, and vaccine delivery. The next step is full transparency about decision making systems, processes, and knowing who is accountable for what. Once transparency and accountability are established as norms, individuals employed by government should ideally only work in areas unrelated to their competing interests. Expertise is possible without competing interests. If such a strict rule becomes impractical, minimum good practice is that people with competing interests must not be involved in decisions on products and policies in which they have a financial interest. Governments and industry must also stop announcing critical science policy by press release. Such ill judged moves leave science, the media, and stock markets vulnerable to manipulation. Clear, open, and advance publication of the scientific basis for policy, procurements, and wonder drugs is a fundamental requirement.19 The stakes are high for politicians, scientific advisers, and government appointees. Their careers and bank balances may hinge on the decisions that they make. But they have a higher responsibility and duty to the public. Science is a public good. It doesn’t need to be followed blindly, but it does need to be fairly considered. Importantly, suppressing science, whether by delaying publication, cherry picking favourable research, or gagging scientists, is a danger to public health, causing deaths by exposing people to unsafe or ineffective interventions and preventing them from benefiting from better ones. When entangled with commercial decisions it is also maladministration of taxpayers’ money. Politicisation of science was enthusiastically deployed by some of history’s worst autocrats and dictators, and it is now regrettably commonplace in democracies.20 The medical-political complex tends towards suppression of science to aggrandise and enrich those in power. And, as the powerful become more successful, richer, and further intoxicated with power, the inconvenient truths of science are suppressed. When good science is suppressed, people die. References ↵ Geoghegan P. Cronyism and clientelism. London Review of Books 2020 Nov 5. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n21/peter-geoghegan/cronyism-and-clientelism ↵ Scally G, Jacobson B, Abbasi K . The UK’s public health response to covid-19. BMJ2020;369:m1932. doi:10.1136/bmj.m1932 pmid:32414712 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Iacobucci G . Pandemic preparedness: Government must release 2016 report, says information commissioner. BMJ2020;371:m3953. doi:10.1136/bmj.m3953 pmid:33046458 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Department of Health and Social Care. Policy paper. Annex B: Exercise Cygnus report. 5 Nov 2020. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-pandemic-preparedness/exercise-cygnus-report-accessible-report ↵ Public Health England. Disparities in the risk and outcomes of COVID-19. 2020. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/908434/Disparities_in_the_risk_and_outcomes_of_COVID_August_2020_update.pdf ↵ Khunti K, Platt L, Routen A, Abbasi K . Covid-19 and ethnic minorities: an urgent agenda for overdue action. BMJ2020;369:m2503. doi:10.1136/bmj.m2503 pmid:32576558 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Horton R. Tweet, 15 Oct 2020. ↵ Boseley S. Antibody tests bought by UK government “less accurate than maker claims.” Guardian 2020 Nov 12. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-antibody-test-bought-uk-government-less-accurate-than-makers-claim ↵ Iacobucci G, Coombes R . Covid-19: Government plans to spend £100bn on expanding testing to 10 million a day. BMJ2020;370:m3520. doi:10.1136/bmj.m3520 pmid:32907851 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Iacobucci G . Covid-19: mass population testing is rolled out in Liverpool. BMJ2020;371:m4268. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4268 pmid:33144291 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Iacobucci G . Covid-19: rapid test missed over 50% of positive cases in Manchester pilot. BMJ2020;371:m4323. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4323 pmid:33158908 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Mulchandani R, Jones HE, Taylor-Phillips S, et al., EDSAB-HOME and COMPARE Investigators . Accuracy of UK Rapid Test Consortium (UK-RTC) “AbC-19 Rapid Test” for detection of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection in key workers: test accuracy study. BMJ2020;371:m4262.pmid:33177070 Abstract/FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Gill D, Ponsford MJ . Testing for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2. BMJ2020;371:m4288. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4288 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Armstrong S . Covid-19: Government buried negative data on its favoured antibody test. BMJ2020;371:m4353. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4353 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Cohen K, Kupferschmidt K. The “very, very bad look” of remdesivir, the first FDA-approved COVID-19 drug. Science 2020 Oct 28. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/very-very-bad-look-remdesivir-first-fda-approved-covid-19-drug ↵ Transparency International. Corruption and covid-19—the story so far. 8 Jul 2020. https://www.transparency.org.uk/corruption-coronavirus-covid-19-latest ↵ Ennals E. Government test tsar has £770,000 shares in drugs firm that sold us £13million of “pointless” antibody screening kits—after it emerged that Sir Patrick Vallance has a financial interest in company racing to find vaccine. Daily Mail 2020 Sep 26. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776339/Test-tsar-770-000-shares-firm-sold-13million-pointless-antibody-screening-kits.html ↵ Armstrong S . Covid-19: Government faces legal action over £75m contract for antibody tests. BMJ2020;371:m4427. doi:10.1136/bmj.m4427 FREE Full TextGoogle Scholar ↵ Mahase E . Covid-19: Vaccine candidate may be more than 90% effective, interim results indicate. 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magu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 As much as i admire their work (in fact i've had training from them via a company i workd for with no complaints) i cant help but think that the thousands of wannabe paramedics and blue light orgasm fiends wont have a singular clue about the origins,much less care...However....The upper echelons of the St John brigade do and i dont know if you are aware but its still an order of chivalry in fact i have a miniature medal of the one illustrated on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_John_(chartered_1888) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science ↵ Horton R. Tweet, 15 Oct 2020. <br /> the ''difficult political landscape''....i would call that a CLIMATE OF FEAR and we, the british people, whether in or out of uniforms eg police, medical, military etc need to start breaking that climate of fear by speaking out and exposing what information we have that is in the public interest We need a trickle of truth telling to become an unstoppable torrent so that we can wash the wretched snakes in whitehall out of the corridors of power and into jail where they belong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I posted that link on a thread in an ARRSE forum where a vaccine cultist was hell bent on spouting a load of unmitigated bollocks.....He read it and then came back with some obfuscation but you could just tell from the straws he was clinghing to in his arguments it had rattled his cage....which i can only take as a positive sign that perhaps more maskateers and vaxxinators may get rattled by the document...i live in hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: the ''difficult political landscape''....i would call that a CLIMATE OF FEAR and we, the british people, whether in or out of uniforms eg police, medical, military etc need to start breaking that climate of fear by speaking out and exposing what information we have that is in the public interest We need a trickle of truth telling to become an unstoppable torrent so that we can wash the wretched snakes in whitehall out of the corridors of power and into jail where they belong I must admit i totally agree with you as ive seen the effect with the bmj i referenced above but also the basis for compulsory medical intervention ref vaxxines which i also posted from the journal of medical ethics....if its from a reputable site...isn't too long or obscure and its within the understanding of a lot of people then i say lets deluge them...ask any detractors to refute any claims and sit back and enjoy the show...i also remember the magazine article i posted some months ago about people with learning difficulties being given DNR's which i found abhorrent at the time but i feel its time to add that to my growing arsenal of links to documents they will have trouble refuting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Ingredients for both vaccines. https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=908ecbe7-2f1b-42dd-94bf-f917ec3c5af8 https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/lookup.cfm?setid=e0651c7a-2fe2-459d-a766-0d59e919f058&version=1 Keep an eye on these pages... Edited November 17, 2020 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The 'vaxxers' always spout the same illogical crap. "Your unvaccinated child is putting my vaccinated child at risk!!" Eh? How exactly does that work? At risk from what? Logically this argument makes no sense. And as for the 'Covid vaccine', well if 'Covid' has something like a 99.8% survival rate (based on various statistics being floated around the internet), what is the point in spending millions of pounds developing a 'vaccine' and then insisting that everybody should 'accept' it? If Covid-19 really was a 'lethal and deadly' disease wiping out huge swathes of the population, I might be convinced a vaccine was worth having. But then again I am a 'critical thinker', and I base my opinions not just on what I read about, but what I encounter and observe in my own daily life. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said: The 'vaxxers' always spout the same illogical crap. "Your unvaccinated child is putting my vaccinated child at risk!!" Eh? How exactly does that work? At risk from what? Logically this argument makes no sense. And as for the 'Covid vaccine', well if 'Covid' has something like a 99.8% survival rate (based on various statistics being floated around the internet), what is the point in spending millions of pounds developing a 'vaccine' and then insisting that everybody should 'accept' it? If Covid-19 really was a 'lethal and deadly' disease wiping out huge swathes of the population, I might be convinced a vaccine was worth having. But then again I am a 'critical thinker', and I base my opinions not just on what I read about, but what I encounter and observe in my own daily life. The only way this can be logically understood is to realise that the vaccine is not about public health at all but is in fact part of a more sinister agenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magu Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: The only way this can be logically understood is to realise that the vaccine is not about public health at all but is in fact part of a more sinister agenda The biggest problem is getting that across to those that neither want to know or are not equipped mentally to understand the ramifications of that...i have genuinely stopped giving a flying fcku about people like that now....im just waiting patiently for the dawning realisation that the jab is having horrendous side effects...i wont rub there noses in it but i doubt i'll have the time nor the inclination to offer any kind of support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: The only way this can be logically understood is to realise that the vaccine is not about public health at all but is in fact part of a more sinister agenda Well yeah, you and I both know that, but the problem is trying to get other people to think logically again. Same goes for the masks and face coverings - we never had these during the last 'lockdown', but cases and deaths continued to rise. People need to start wondering why 'cases' and 'deaths' are rising again, despite a large number of people wearing face coverings, observing social distancing and constantly sanitising themselves and disinfecting everything else. Yeah, some will put it down to 'people not following the rules' or the 'selfish idiots not wearing masks', but pennies are going to start dropping soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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