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Sorry for off topic.

1. The vaccines for cats and dogs are bad for their health? I never made them, but I want to live in the house, not appartement. Foxes, rats will not be dangerous for my pets? 
2. And what about for another vax for people? Not cov. I made them many in my childhood. Or were they better before?

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17 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Yeah, on reflection "best interest" isn't a good choice of words because that's often used to justify some interference in people's lives against their wishes. Even when I was complying with the jabs, lockdowns, masks etc I never agreed with any of it being compulsory. The whole narrative of covid being an emergency, justifying a level of social control similar to being in wartime, is probably as much the point as what they've been injecting us with. And thinking back to Bojo's initial response of herd immunity etc, leads me to think that maybe he wasn't as obedient to their orders as quickly as he should have been, resulting in him being replaced. But that's just me thinking out loud. 

Your further down the rabbit hole than me on some of that.

 

They didn't want your agreement. Everywhere I went there was people disagreeing with it and flouting it as much as they could.

 

Some of it was just patently ridicules. Everyone with half a brain could see that closing pubs at 9 o'clock as the virus was more dangerous then apparently or sitting in a pub in a group with out a mask but putting it on to go to the toilet was beyond ludicrous.

 

It was either a killer virus or it wasn't. You can't have a halfway of killer at some times and places and not others

 

But by and large people went along with it and just complained it was stupid

The reason they had us jumping through hoops like performing seals has yet to be firmly estabish in my mind. Certainly it was about control but to what end I'm not yet sure

 

 

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15 minutes ago, jois said:

The reason they had us jumping through hoops like performing seals has yet to be firmly estabish in my mind. Certainly it was about control but to what end I'm not yet sure

Nice post jois - I've run out of forum likes
To what end?
Human mind/soul conjuction with AI.
But thats another rabbit hole...

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24 minutes ago, jois said:

But by and large people went along with it and just complained it was stupid

 

They've got us doing this over many issues. I dunno if it's just a British thing, but just one example: for my entire life people have complained privately about immigration yet carried on voting for the same parties which allow it. It's like on some level we can see what's going on, but are hypnotised by the media or some such, into conforming to the power structure. I can see now that a similar hypnosis was conducted over covid.  It's incredibly frustrating but I think for me, a big factor was the behaviour of the MSM during the Brexit referendum. They were so blatantly biased that I gave up on firstly the BBC and now the rest of the MSM news. 

 

24 minutes ago, jois said:

Your further down the rabbit hole than me on some of that.

 

Ha ha, of course I am, I'm Captain Campion the rabbit from Watership Down 😁 

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/will-100-million-die-from-the-covid-vax-by-2028_4602442.html

 

David Martin, Ph.D., presents evidence that COVID-19 injections are not vaccines, but bioweapons that are being used as a form of genocide across the global population

 

The projected illiquidity of the Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid programs by 2028 suggests the “fewer people who are recipients of these programs, the better;” Martin believes this may be why people 65 and over were targeted with COVID-19 shots first

 

However, already people are dying from the shots and, Martin states, “many more will” due to issues such as blood clots, damage to the cardiovascular system and problems with liver, kidney and pulmonary function.10

An onslaught of reproductive and cancer cases related to the shots are also anticipated. “The fact of the matter is an enormous number of people who are injected are already carrying the seeds of their own demise, Martin said.

 

As for how many may die, Martin believes the numbers may have been revealed back in 2011, when the World Health Organization announced their “decade of vaccination

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1 hour ago, Catherine said:

Sorry for off topic.

1. The vaccines for cats and dogs are bad for their health? I never made them, but I want to live in the house, not appartement. Foxes, rats will not be dangerous for my pets? 
2. And what about for another vax for people? Not cov. I made them many in my childhood. Or were they better before?

The worst part of a scam is there control groups... After last vaccines my dad's dogs got sever allergy. It's skin is constant itchy. Of course it's just coincidence.

You can't be sure what impact vaccines had on your health. Maybe it will be cause of Alzheimer or cancer in the future... 

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13 minutes ago, Human10 said:

You can't be sure what impact vaccines had on your health. Maybe it will be cause of Alzheimer or cancer in the future... 

 

There was the controversy of MMR vaccines maybe causing autism in kids which I remember from the 90s. And now this, I wonder how much money the drug companies will be putting into researching the damage their products might be doing. 

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46 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

There was the controversy of MMR vaccines maybe causing autism in kids which I remember from the 90s. And now this, I wonder how much money the drug companies will be putting into researching the damage their products might be doing. 

There was nothing controversial I about it medically.it was extremely contraversial when it was brought into the public domain.

 

Most vacines( I can't say all) carry a risk of causing life changing Injuries.

 

In % terms that risk is very small. Which is no consultation if you one of very small fractions of 1% that get brain damage

When they say " safe" they mean mostly safe on a population level. Not completely safe on a individual level.

 

The figures I've seen from studies suggest that the hit rate for COVID vacine giving life changing Injuries in one in 5000 doses. 4 does and it's down into one in 1200 . Though it doesn't necessarily stack like that. As it requires you to have a predisposition to being injured. It's not like the lottery where it's random

 

Even that may not be an accurate assessment of risk. As the young seem at far greater risk of heart problem. So in certain demographics the hit rate could be a lot higher or lower than that

Heart problems in young men seem to be at about 20% following vaccination. It's far from clear how many of those are serious

 

That really doesn't fall into the category of stasticaly insignificantly

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I saw a policeman in London on TV, let a member of the public wear his helmet for a photo and I thought, haven't we come a long way from all of that distancing, and disinfecting everything we touch 😉 ( I still love to see the police helmet - so much better than a cap )

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2 hours ago, Catherine said:

Sorry for off topic.

1. The vaccines for cats and dogs are bad for their health? I never made them, but I want to live in the house, not appartement. Foxes, rats will not be dangerous for my pets? 
2. And what about for another vax for people? Not cov. I made them many in my childhood. Or were they better before?

2 really good questions id like the answer of

 

i mean, yeah covid vax is bad

but what about the rabies vaccine?

 

Are every vaccine scams?

 

were told original vaccine not the mrna scma,  take a weakened part of the virus being injected in us. Well, how can they weaken viruses? That part have never been disclosed.

 


So, vaccine, all of them, are lies? Are virus even real honestly 

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before i pulled my kid out of school, in his year of 60 kids there were 10-15 on the autistic spectrum.

thats 1 in 6 to 1 in 4.

apply that to every year in every school and thats a lot.

classes are full of spectrum kids wearing earmuffs

and you wonder how are they going to get on in the real world

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23 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

2 really good questions id like the answer of

 

i mean, yeah covid vax is bad

but what about the rabies vaccine?

 

Are every vaccine scams?

 

were told original vaccine not the mrna scma,  take a weakened part of the virus being injected in us. Well, how can they weaken viruses? That part have never been disclosed.

 


So, vaccine, all of them, are lies? Are virus even real honestly 

They weaken them by killing them. Ussualy

 

As above, it's all about risk Benifit

 

They all carry risk.but not generally as much risk as rabies. How likely are you to get rabies is the question

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9 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

before i pulled my kid out of school, in his year of 60 kids there were 10-15 on the autistic spectrum.

thats 1 in 6 to 1 in 4.

apply that to every year in every school and thats a lot.

classes are full of spectrum kids wearing earmuffs

and you wonder how are they going to get on in the real world

I'm not sure there are many people who arnt on the spectrum.its a very long spectrum.

 

What's not clear is how many were on the spectrum before they started to vaccinate. No body knows as they hadn't even heard of autism back then

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1 hour ago, jois said:

There was nothing controversial I about it medically.it was extremely contraversial when it was brought into the public domain.

 

Most vacines( I can't say all) carry a risk of causing life changing Injuries.

 

In % terms that risk is very small. Which is no consultation if you one of very small fractions of 1% that get brain damage

When they say " safe" they mean mostly safe on a population level. Not completely safe on a individual level.

 

The figures I've seen from studies suggest that the hit rate for COVID vacine giving life changing Injuries in one in 5000 doses. 4 does and it's down into one in 1200 . Though it doesn't necessarily stack like that. As it requires you to have a predisposition to being injured. It's not like the lottery where it's random

 

Even that may not be an accurate assessment of risk. As the young seem at far greater risk of heart problem. So in certain demographics the hit rate could be a lot higher or lower than that

Heart problems in young men seem to be at about 20% following vaccination. It's far from clear how many of those are serious

 

That really doesn't fall into the category of stasticaly insignificantly

 

Please elaborate what kind of heart condition in a young man is not serious.

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3 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

Please elaborate what kind of heart condition in a young man is not serious.

Myocardia mostly. Which may or may not kill them and may or may not cure it's self in a few weeks.

 

By serious I mean life long debilitation or death

Not serious is when it's neither of them.

 

They are all of serious concern

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5 minutes ago, jois said:

What's not clear is how many were on the spectrum before they started to vaccinate. No body knows as they hadn't even heard of autism back then

autism drs have said it was rare in the 80's 1 in 100,000

and now they say its 1 in 80

and the reason they always give is its easier to recognise now than 30 years ago.

 

you can use the same analogy for any illness

 

random article

https://goodautismschool.com/autism-rates/

"There are two obvious reasons for this increase. One of these is the development and spread of diagnostic tools. Because of the fact that it is easier to diagnose"

did i already mention that? yup

 

the "experts" also say autism is recognisable at 1 year the same time the mmr is due.

they use plausible deniability

if they want to debunk this all they need do is delay the mmr to two years of age.

but non autistic 1yr old kids getting autism at 2yrs old after an mmr would destroy their theory.

 

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1 minute ago, jois said:

Myocardia mostly. Which may or may not kill them and may or may not cure it's self in a few weeks.

 

By serious I mean life long debilitation or death

Not serious is when it's neither of them.

 

They are all of serious concern

 

Oh, well I beg to differ because I've yet to hear of myocarditis miraculously curing itself in a few weeks, and there's no such thing as a trivial heart condition.

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1 minute ago, bamboozooka said:

autism drs have said it was rare in the 80's 1 in 100,000

and now they say its 1 in 80

and the reason they always give is its easier to recognise now than 30 years ago.

 

you can use the same analogy for any illness

 

random article

https://goodautismschool.com/autism-rates/

"There are two obvious reasons for this increase. One of these is the development and spread of diagnostic tools. Because of the fact that it is easier to diagnose"

did i already mention that? yup

 

the "experts" also say autism is recognisable at 1 year the same time the mmr is due.

they use plausible deniability

if they want to debunk this all they need do is delay the mmr to two years of age.

but non autistic 1yr old kids getting autism at 2yrs old after an mmr would destroy their theory.

 

They may or may not be talking bollux.

 

There is certainly logic in what they say. But they could of course just be lieing.

 

There were at least one odd kid in every class of 30 when I was at school.

 

Were they autistic or just odd. Is there a difference.?

 

Unless your very odd you don't get tested. What about the ones who are only a bit odd. Test them and you have more autism don't and you have less

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1 minute ago, jois said:

They may or may not be talking bollux.

 

There is certainly logic in what they say. But they could of course just be lieing.

 

There were at least one odd kid in every class of 30 when I was at school.

 

Were they autistic or just odd. Is there a difference.?

 

Unless your very odd you don't get tested. What about the ones who are only a bit odd. Test them and you have more autism don't and you have less

i'd always have the one that stunk of piss sit next to me

scarred for life

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14 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

Oh, well I beg to differ because I've yet to hear of myocarditis miraculously curing itself in a few weeks, and there's no such thing as a trivial heart condition.

Well there is both mild and acute cases. Mild ones don't get picked up unless your actively testing for it.

 

In the tests, in Singapore I think. It had gone in a month in the test subjects. Some ( a very few) had markers of permanent damage some not. No body died. But it was only a few hundred in the test. A bigger sample and the results might change

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schools are putting "normal" kids on special education needs registers behind parents backs to get more funding.

 

i know i got the t shirt and i got the apology that they never followed a single protocol that they should by law 

 

its the reason im homeschooling.

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8 minutes ago, jois said:

Well there is both mild and chronic cases. Mild ones don't get picked up unless your actively testing for it.

 

In the tests, in Singapore I think. It had gone in a month in the test subjects. Some had markers of permanent damage some not. No body died. But it was only a few hundred in the test. A bigger sample and the results might change

 

I've read at least 2 reports from doctors in the last few months refuting the notion that there is any such thing as a mild or case or disappearing case. Once you have it, there is a real danger that you could drop dead as a direct result at any time without prior warning. To be afflicted with that, particularly in youth, is like the sword of Damocles.

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