Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Nip]

54 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

in a nice bunker on south island surrounded by lots of billionaire neighbours in their own bunkers...

 

Precisely

[Mikhail Liebestein]

2 hours ago, Freaky Dragonfly said:

 

He wants to spend time with his money.

 

Darn, started a thread on this.

[rebornsteve]

1 hour ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

eternity doesnt exist

Eternity does exist, in mathematics for example. 

[greatdayforfreedom]

 

[Freaky Dragonfly]

7 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

 

 

And we have to multiply that times millions. One is a tragedy, millions are just statistics.

[Youknownothingbutyou]

1 hour ago, rebornsteve said:

Eternity does exist, in mathematics for example. 

its cool that we arent just numbers

[SimonTV]

https://gab.com/udnshot/posts/108868650848854160

 

DeSantis calls out lockdowns

[Frankieboy]

[Frankieboy]

 

[Golden Retriever]

20 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

ok but if the posters in question are pushed off the forum then the discussions about the falsifying of history will be over

 

the marxist posters including the ones that are hiding their marxist credentials will not have those discussions because they WANT to destroy history. Marxists want to wipe the slate clean and create a 'year zero' from the point at which they take power

 

You will also NEVER hear those posters discuss how mass immigration is being pushed as part of the conspiracy. Their silence is deafening and in fact i have even asked some lefty posters about that area of the conspiracy and often they try to argue it isn't happening or that it is only in my head or that i should embrace change

 

Mass immigration is part of the conspiracy and disproportionately Jewish NGO's and foundations are involved. It is not anti semitic to say this,

but all the MSM media and much of the alternative media will portray the person as a far right Nazi.  I have never been a Nazi and never will, but I will say the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks were far more evil than Nazis.

 

 

Mods .... please start a new thread if you wish. The member Oakwise was unhappy with alleged right wing people on the forum and imo

was personally abusive to a member who has always been a gentleman in debate. Then an advisor contributed on this thread which is about Convid

and not the right wing, which escalated somewhat.  Peace.

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Golden Retriever

[Morpheus]

9 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Mods .... please start a new thread if you wish. The member Oakwise was unhappy with alleged right wing people on the forum and imo

was personally abusive to a member who has always been a gentleman in debate. Then an advisor contributed on this thread which is about Convid

and not the right wing, which escalated somewhat. 

I suppose that's one way of looking at it ....

[webtrekker]

Fauci Now Performing Gain-of-Function on Spanish Flu

Published on August 23, 2022

Written by Tom Renz

 

This will be short because it really does not need much comment. In fact, this is so absurd that I am just starting with the reference document because I am concerned no one will believe it.

 

To view the pdf, see the source document – Ed

Yes, that is right, Fauci and crew are now actively performing gain-of-function (GoF) work and infecting primates with the Spanish Flu.

 

For those of you that are unaware, GoF does not have a single agreed upon definition but, as it relates here, is essentially the modification of the Spanish Flu virus to make “more functional.”

 

In this case, as with COVID, I have little doubt the GoF supporters will argue that this is not GoF but the article actually notes that this disease was created in canine kidneys with supplemental bovine serum. Here is a quote from the document:

 

Virus and cells. Influenza virus A/South Carolina/1918 (H1N1) was generated by reverse genetics (9) and handled in biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) containment at the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML). Sequences of the 1918 influenza viral segments were based on data reported under GenBank accession numbers DQ208309, DQ208310, DQ208311, AF117241, AY744935, AF250356, AY130766, and AF333238.

 

1918 influenza virus was cultured usingMadin-Darby canine kidney (MDCK; ATCC, Manassas, VA, USA) cells. MDCK cells were grown in minimum essential medium (MEM; HyClone) supplemented with five percent fetal bovine serum (FBS; HyClone) and 1 L-glutamine (L-Glu; Gibco, Life Technologies, Grand Island, NY, USA).

 

A passage 2 (P2) virus stock was prepared using MEM supplemented with 0.1% bovine serum albumin (BSA) (fraction V; HyClone), 1 L-glutamine, and 1 mg/mL N-tosyl-L-phenylalanine chloromethyl ketone (TPCK)-treated trypsin (Sigma-Aldrich). This stock was used for animal inoculation.

 

The mouse 50 percent lethal dose (MLD50) for this stock was determined previously to be 103.2 PFU (9); this value was confirmed prior to the use of the stock for macaque infection.

I frankly do not care to debate the nuance of whether the recreation of generally extinct virus “generated by reverse genetics” using pieces and parts of other animals qualifies as GoF; what I care about is that we have recreated the Spanish Flu and are experimenting with it on other animals.

I also care that one focus of this article is the fact that scientists are frustrated that the recreated Spanish Flu is not dangerous enough. We do not have to get far in this to see this frustration. At the beginning of the article in the summary of its importance this statement is made:

Here, we demonstrate that even at the highest doses tested, 1918 influenza was not lethal in these two macaque species, suggesting that they are not ideal for the development and testing of novel pandemic influenza-specific vaccines and therapies.

Therefore, other physiologically relevant nonhuman primate models of pandemic influenza are needed.

At this point I am preparing to release the results of a major investigation we have been undertaking at Renz Law that will demonstrate that SARS-COV2 was in fact created in the Wuhan labs as part of a GoF project. We believe the investigation demonstrates this in a way that far exceeds a preponderance of the evidence standard and probably exceeds reasonable doubt.

 

With that in mind, and given the result of the the previous coronavirus GoF, can ANYONE possibly argue GoF work on the Spanish Flu is a good idea?

 

Even the simple recreation of the disease demonstrates an incredible lack of respect for the disaster created by the coronavirus GoF.

So you may be asking, what moron could possibly be oblivious enough to support GoF work on the Spanish Flu while the world is still dealing with the nightmare that is COVID? The answer should not be surprising and is here:

Mable Chan,ᵃ Meenakshi Tiwary,ᵇ,ᶜ Helen L. Wu,ᵇ,ᶜ Nikesh Tailor,ᵃ Robert Vendramelli,ᵃ Jonathan Audet,ᵃ Bryce M. Warner,ᵃ Kevin Tierney,ᵃ Alix Albietz,ᵃ Thang Truong,ᵃ Kaylie Doan,ᵃ Alexander Bello,ᵃ Marnie Willman,ᵃ Bryan D. Griffin,ᵃ,ᵈ Patrick W. Hanley,ᵉ Jamie Lovaglio,ᵉ David Safronetz,ᵃ,ᶠ Jim Strong,ᵃ,ᶠ Jonah B. Sacha,ᵇ,ᶜ Darwyn Kobasaᵃ,ᶠ

a. Special Pathogens, National Microbiology Laboratory, Public Health Agency of Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

b. Vaccine and Gene Therapy Institute, Oregon Health & Science University, Portland,

c. Oregon, USA Oregon National Primate Research Center, Oregon Health & Science University, Portland, Oregon, USA

d. Vaccine Safety Surveillance, Immunization Branch, Public Health Agency of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

e. Rocky Mountain Veterinary Branch, Division of Intramural Research, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Hamilton, Montana, USA

f. Department of Medical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

So, NIH and NIAID are involved. Apparently Fauci does not mind what he did with funding the creation of COVID and is at it again. You might also note the vaccine development crew’s involvement.

 

A foundational point in this article is that the newly recreated Spanish Flu is not dangerous enough.

 

Here is a pull-quote:

However, 1918 influenza was uniformly nonlethal in these two species, demonstrating that this isolate is insufficiently pathogenic in rhesus and Mauritian cynomolgus macaques to support testing novel prophylactic influenza approaches where protection from severe disease combined with a lethal outcome is desired as a highly stringent indication of vaccine efficacy.

This means that these people are arguing that we need to make a more dangerous version of the Spanish Flu so they can make “better” vaccines for it… despite the fact that until they recreated it, it likely no longer existed in nature.

 

Much like with COVID, these snake oil salesmen create the disease and then create the cure.

 

Given the complete failure and innumerable dangers of the COVID jabs, the real question is whether the cure will be worse than the disease?

 

For my part I find the fact that I am even writing this article to be incredible.

 

In this election year I sincerely hope that this article is put in front of every elected official in Washington and they are asked to explain how this is continuing on their watch.

 

See more here: substack.com

 

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

26 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

Let's be honest Bomb.

 

It was a comment made by an advisor who admitted they may be derailing the thread, which you and AFS also contributed to.

 

So the buck stops with the staff, not members. Peace my friend

 

CV mega thread will always take a few detours, it's a con with tentacles in so many parts of society, and has been perpetrated with the help of so many sections of the elite (media, health, banking you name it). No real issue with that.

 

I only weighed in because, like you say, there was some personal mud-slinging taking place which needed to be reined in a bit. If stuff really veers OT then obviously we'll look at taking those posts and finding a more suitable thread for them (and if one doesn't exist, we'll create it no problem).

[Morpheus]

8 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

I only weighed in because, like you say, there was some personal mud-slinging taking place which needed to be reined in a bit.

Another way of looking at it.......

[Tinfoil Hat]

13 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Fauci Now Performing Gain-of-Function on Spanish Flu

Published on August 23, 2022

Written by Tom Renz

 

This will be short because it really does not need much comment. In fact, this is so absurd that I am just starting with the reference document because I am concerned no one will believe it.

 

To view the pdf, see the source document – Ed

Yes, that is right, Fauci and crew are now actively performing gain-of-function (GoF) work and infecting primates with the Spanish Flu.

 

For those of you that are unaware, GoF does not have a single agreed upon definition but, as it relates here, is essentially the modification of the Spanish Flu virus to make “more functional.”

 

In this case, as with COVID, I have little doubt the GoF supporters will argue that this is not GoF but the article actually notes that this disease was created in canine kidneys with supplemental bovine serum. Here is a quote from the document:

 

Virus and cells. Influenza virus A/South Carolina/1918 (H1N1) was generated by reverse genetics (9) and handled in biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) containment at the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML). Sequences of the 1918 influenza viral segments were based on data reported under GenBank accession numbers DQ208309, DQ208310, DQ208311, AF117241, AY744935, AF250356, AY130766, and AF333238.

 

1918 influenza virus was cultured usingMadin-Darby canine kidney (MDCK; ATCC, Manassas, VA, USA) cells. MDCK cells were grown in minimum essential medium (MEM; HyClone) supplemented with five percent fetal bovine serum (FBS; HyClone) and 1 L-glutamine (L-Glu; Gibco, Life Technologies, Grand Island, NY, USA).

 

A passage 2 (P2) virus stock was prepared using MEM supplemented with 0.1% bovine serum albumin (BSA) (fraction V; HyClone), 1 L-glutamine, and 1 mg/mL N-tosyl-L-phenylalanine chloromethyl ketone (TPCK)-treated trypsin (Sigma-Aldrich). This stock was used for animal inoculation.

 

The mouse 50 percent lethal dose (MLD50) for this stock was determined previously to be 103.2 PFU (9); this value was confirmed prior to the use of the stock for macaque infection.

I frankly do not care to debate the nuance of whether the recreation of generally extinct virus “generated by reverse genetics” using pieces and parts of other animals qualifies as GoF; what I care about is that we have recreated the Spanish Flu and are experimenting with it on other animals.

I also care that one focus of this article is the fact that scientists are frustrated that the recreated Spanish Flu is not dangerous enough. We do not have to get far in this to see this frustration. At the beginning of the article in the summary of its importance this statement is made:

Here, we demonstrate that even at the highest doses tested, 1918 influenza was not lethal in these two macaque species, suggesting that they are not ideal for the development and testing of novel pandemic influenza-specific vaccines and therapies.

Therefore, other physiologically relevant nonhuman primate models of pandemic influenza are needed.

At this point I am preparing to release the results of a major investigation we have been undertaking at Renz Law that will demonstrate that SARS-COV2 was in fact created in the Wuhan labs as part of a GoF project. We believe the investigation demonstrates this in a way that far exceeds a preponderance of the evidence standard and probably exceeds reasonable doubt.

 

With that in mind, and given the result of the the previous coronavirus GoF, can ANYONE possibly argue GoF work on the Spanish Flu is a good idea?

 

Even the simple recreation of the disease demonstrates an incredible lack of respect for the disaster created by the coronavirus GoF.

So you may be asking, what moron could possibly be oblivious enough to support GoF work on the Spanish Flu while the world is still dealing with the nightmare that is COVID? The answer should not be surprising and is here:

Mable Chan,ᵃ Meenakshi Tiwary,ᵇ,ᶜ Helen L. Wu,ᵇ,ᶜ Nikesh Tailor,ᵃ Robert Vendramelli,ᵃ Jonathan Audet,ᵃ Bryce M. Warner,ᵃ Kevin Tierney,ᵃ Alix Albietz,ᵃ Thang Truong,ᵃ Kaylie Doan,ᵃ Alexander Bello,ᵃ Marnie Willman,ᵃ Bryan D. Griffin,ᵃ,ᵈ Patrick W. Hanley,ᵉ Jamie Lovaglio,ᵉ David Safronetz,ᵃ,ᶠ Jim Strong,ᵃ,ᶠ Jonah B. Sacha,ᵇ,ᶜ Darwyn Kobasaᵃ,ᶠ

a. Special Pathogens, National Microbiology Laboratory, Public Health Agency of Canada, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

b. Vaccine and Gene Therapy Institute, Oregon Health & Science University, Portland,

c. Oregon, USA Oregon National Primate Research Center, Oregon Health & Science University, Portland, Oregon, USA

d. Vaccine Safety Surveillance, Immunization Branch, Public Health Agency of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

e. Rocky Mountain Veterinary Branch, Division of Intramural Research, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Hamilton, Montana, USA

f. Department of Medical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

So, NIH and NIAID are involved. Apparently Fauci does not mind what he did with funding the creation of COVID and is at it again. You might also note the vaccine development crew’s involvement.

 

A foundational point in this article is that the newly recreated Spanish Flu is not dangerous enough.

 

Here is a pull-quote:

However, 1918 influenza was uniformly nonlethal in these two species, demonstrating that this isolate is insufficiently pathogenic in rhesus and Mauritian cynomolgus macaques to support testing novel prophylactic influenza approaches where protection from severe disease combined with a lethal outcome is desired as a highly stringent indication of vaccine efficacy.

This means that these people are arguing that we need to make a more dangerous version of the Spanish Flu so they can make “better” vaccines for it… despite the fact that until they recreated it, it likely no longer existed in nature.

 

Much like with COVID, these snake oil salesmen create the disease and then create the cure.

 

Given the complete failure and innumerable dangers of the COVID jabs, the real question is whether the cure will be worse than the disease?

 

For my part I find the fact that I am even writing this article to be incredible.

 

In this election year I sincerely hope that this article is put in front of every elected official in Washington and they are asked to explain how this is continuing on their watch.

 

See more here: substack.com

 

 

 

 

I'm getting a vibe that he'll be finding ways to infect dogs so that our beloved companions will be dead or banned so we can't have their love & protection - and fowl so that we can't raise our own chickens for food.

 

And cattle, so that all that's left is grasshoppers (apart from their own food stock).

I've seen Obama rejoicing in Fauci's continuing to 'work', which substantiates to me that his activities will carry on being nefarious.

Edited August 23, 2022 by Tinfoil Hat

[SimonTV]

 

[Golden Retriever]

Censored for information against the narrative.

 

 

[Freaky Dragonfly]

THE NEVER ENDING HUMAN UPDATE HAS REACHED GERMANY!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/z28Lb5LOj00f/

Edited August 23, 2022 by Freaky Dragonfly

[Golden Retriever]

Her mentor, the Jewish Sir Alan Sugar. EST

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Golden Retriever

[bamboozooka]

1 hour ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

I only weighed in because, like you say, there was some personal mud-slinging taking place which needed to be reined in a bit.

whatever you do dont visit the Q room 

 

 

[northern star]

1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

I'm getting a vibe that he'll be finding ways to infect dogs so that our beloved companions will be dead or banned so we can't have their love & protection - and fowl so that we can't raise our own chickens for food.

 

And cattle, so that all that's left is grasshoppers (apart from their own food stock).

I've seen Obama rejoicing in Fauci's continuing to 'work', which substantiates to me that his activities will carry on being nefarious.

 

That would be entirely in line with their psychotic mindset, working out ways to distress people the most, and a cull of pets would be entirely in keeping with that. A few planted stories in the news about a cat or dog contracting Spanish flu, and off they'll go, demanding a cull. Already stories in the news of a rise in people giving their pets to shelters because they cant afford to keep them any more. This is a mass cull of human emotion, an assault on the soul as well as financially, and any kind of self-reliance. So youre right, small livestock is probably also in their sights.

 

 

[SimonTV]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/22/rand-paul-anthony-faucis-resignation-wont-stop-ful/

 

Rand Paul: Anthony Fauci’s resignation won’t stop ‘full-throated investigation’

 

[SimonTV]

https://archive.ph/ZWCfv

 

Unusual Toxic Components Found in COVID Vaccines, ‘Without Exception’: German Scientists

[SimonTV]

[Macnamara]

7 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

Mass immigration is part of the conspiracy and disproportionately Jewish NGO's and foundations are involved. It is not anti semitic to say this,

but all the MSM media and much of the alternative media will portray the person as a far right Nazi.  I have never been a Nazi and never will, but I will say the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks were far more evil than Nazis.

 

 

Mods .... please start a new thread if you wish. The member Oakwise was unhappy with alleged right wing people on the forum and imo

was personally abusive to a member who has always been a gentleman in debate. Then an advisor contributed on this thread which is about Convid

and not the right wing, which escalated somewhat.  Peace.

 

 

well lets tie that issue into the covid agenda

 

we have seen absolute hysteria from both the political left and the political right during this covid scamdemic and an aggressive insistence that we all take multiple jabs of experimental mRNA that had not completed its safety trials and was simply given 'emergency authorisation' by the government

 

and yet......we have not seen ANY insistence that the countless migrants flooding into britain receive covid jabs. Why is that if the disease is so contagious? What makes a person from the third world via a flea bitten camp in calais less likely to carry disease than your average brit?

 

As for barbara spectre her organisation she created to advance MASS immigration is called paideia and its funded by the rothschilds