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53 minutes ago, alexa said:

Is this what they are planning for us truthers ?

Four in five Britons say people who spread fake news about vaccines should face prosecution

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A survey of 2,000 Britons found over half believe that a vaccine produced in record time can be safe. It follows concern that conspiracy theories could hamper any mass rollout of a Covid-19 vaccine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8950237/Four-five-Britons-say-people-spread-fake-news-vaccines-face-prosecution.html

 

 

I do believe Daily Mail Online is a Government tool to guage public reaction.  It has the most stories

about the con virus, the most comments from the public and imo the 77th brigade also.

 

It's information wars out there. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

I do believe Daily Mail Online is a Government tool to guage public reaction.  It has the most stories

about the con virus, the most comments from the public and imo the 77th brigade also.

 

It's information wars out there. 

 

 

 

 

And to record who the dissenters are.

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7 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

do believe Daily Mail Online is a Government tool to guage public reaction.  It has the most stories

about the con virus, the most comments from the public and imo the 77th brigade also.

 

It's information wars out there. 

 

2 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

And to record who the dissenters are.

 

Agreed, I would never leave a comment or vote on any of them on there.

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21 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

 

Agreed, I would never leave a comment or vote on any of them on there.

 

I disagree.  Now is the time to support people who leave comments with factual evidence

against the con virus.   The powers that be know who the dissenters are already, from this

forum and so many other places.   It's far too late to be annonymous 100% on the internet. xx

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9 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Damn, good find! I never voted for red terror.

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5483887/The-Communist-toffs-taking-hard-left-Labour-party.html

 

 

 

She's all over the BBC with "behaviour change" aka mind control.

 

"Her current research includes developing methodologies for designing and evaluating theory-based interventions to change behaviour, and advancing scientific knowledge about, and applications of, behaviour change interventions. She leads the Human Behaviour-Change Project funded by the Wellcome Trust.

 

In 2020, Michie is a member of the Covid-19 Behavioural Science Advisory Group and the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours, a sub-group of the Government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE).] She also sits on the Independent SAGE committee, chaired by Sir David King. She frequently contributes to national news media during the Covid-19 pandemic as an expert in behaviour change"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Michie

 

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4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

She's all over the BBC with "behaviour change" aka mind control.

 

"Her current research includes developing methodologies for designing and evaluating theory-based interventions to change behaviour, and advancing scientific knowledge about, and applications of, behaviour change interventions. She leads the Human Behaviour-Change Project funded by the Wellcome Trust.

 

In 2020, Michie is a member of the Covid-19 Behavioural Science Advisory Group and the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours, a sub-group of the Government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE).] She also sits on the Independent SAGE committee, chaired by Sir David King. She frequently contributes to national news media during the Covid-19 pandemic as an expert in behaviour change"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Michie

 

Nice work. Thanks for the heads up on this psychopath.

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To be opposed to vaccination and especially Pfizer's “wonder vaccine” for Covid, makes you a danger to society and an enemy of the state. The media are bringing out the big guns in this war against free speech, choice, debate or opinions. Platforms which do not herald the new vaccine as a miracle, but highlight the manifold risks to life and limb shall be removed and silenced, by law. 

 

Emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online should be introduced, Labour has said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661


Shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth said such content was "exploiting people's fears, their mistrust of institutions and governments and spreading poison and harm".

 

SAGE are "exploiting people's fears, their misplaced trust in institutions and governments, to spread poison and harm by experimental vaccines".

 

Ashworth said people would have legitimate questions about what the vaccine means for them.

 

"There's nothing wrong with asking those questions and strong public health messaging (propaganda) from the government, reinforced by us, will allay those fears," he said.

 

A government spokesperson said: "Letting vaccine disinformation spread unchecked could cost British lives. Prime Minister Boris Johnson called people who oppose vaccinations "nuts".

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6 minutes ago, Velma said:

To be opposed to vaccination and especially Pfizer's “wonder vaccine” for Covid, makes you a danger to society and an enemy of the state. The media are bringing out the big guns in this war against free speech, choice, debate or opinions. Platforms which do not herald the new vaccine as a miracle, but highlight the manifold risks to life and limb shall be removed and silenced, by law. 

 

Emergency laws to "stamp out dangerous" anti-vaccine content online should be introduced, Labour has said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661


Shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth said such content was "exploiting people's fears, their mistrust of institutions and governments and spreading poison and harm".

 

SAGE are "exploiting people's fears, their misplaced trust in institutions and governments, to spread poison and harm by experimental vaccines".

 

Ashworth said people would have legitimate questions about what the vaccine means for them.

 

"There's nothing wrong with asking those questions and strong public health messaging (propaganda) from the government, reinforced by us, will allay those fears," he said.

 

A government spokesperson said: "Letting vaccine disinformation spread unchecked could cost British lives. Prime Minister Boris Johnson called people who oppose vaccinations "nuts".

 

 

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

'A survey of 2,000 Britons found over half believe that a vaccine produced in record time can be safe. It follows concern that conspiracy theories could hamper any mass rollout of a Covid-19 vaccine.'

 

Right, so 80% of Joe Public, supposedly, think anyone 'off message' should be prosecuted. Surely, a significant proportion of the remaining 20% must still trust the vaccine, while not thinking anyone 'off message' should be prosecuted. I mean, aren't we looking at 90% plus trust in the vaccine, from those numbers? What's the problem then? Unless, the survey is even worse bullshit than a masonic fairy tale... 😀

 

P.S. This does all seem to suggest that they are shying away from attempting forced vaccinations, at least for the moment.  

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Twelve arrested at Wolverhampton lockdown protest

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Twelve people were arrested at an anti-lockdown protest in Wolverhampton.

West Midlands Police said it was made aware of 150 people gathering in the city on Saturday.

The force said it attempted to explain that protestors were in breach of ongoing restrictions, but "many did not listen" and refused to disperse.

It said its officers then "had to enforce the rules" and 12 people were taken into custody.

The force said it had information via social media that the protest was set to go ahead, and had earlier appealed for the organisers to make contact with officers.

But it said it received no contact before the gathering went ahead.

Some protestors went on social media to share images of the event, describing it as "peaceful".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-54944926

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1 hour ago, numnuts said:

It follows concern that conspiracy theories could hamper any mass rollout of a Covid-19 vaccine.'

 

 

I'm not wanting to stop anyone else from being vaccinated, it's their choice.

My choice is to say "No thanks." so that should be  respected. 

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3 hours ago, DarianF said:

A masterclass in COVID fear-mongering government propaganda:

 

 

Australia and New Zealand seem to be the testing ground for how much they can get away with :classic_mellow:

What they are going to say over there is

No jab

No job

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Yet another example of the Police (protectors of the PEOPLE) coming down hard on peaceful protests.
Although - it's not clear to me if this is antifa being dickheads - and if it was antifa doing the counter-protest, the police just saved their asses from getting a serious kicking by the much larger crowds of genuine anti-covid protesters.
German police apparently spray the  counter-protesters to anti-covid protesters   - then still break up the actual anti-covid protesters due to non-mask wearing:

 

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4 hours ago, DarianF said:

A masterclass in COVID fear-mongering government propaganda:

 

 

Inversion ...as in Orwell...he had the Ministry of Truth that dealt in lies, we have 'Health' that causes more disease and suffering.

 

Create a category called Covid, a disease that mostly affects politicians, celebs and sports stars.

 

Pretend  you've diverted all resources to this claimed new illness, as a consequence not treating heart disease, cancer, kidney disease and so on.

 

Watch as your 'pension burden' decreases, as requested by the policy makers at Davos or Bilderberg.

 

Brilliant and unscrupulous, the elites haven't lost their touch..9/11, ISIS and now this.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Jack said:

 

 

 

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the team behind the vaccine say their results suggest protection is achieved 28 days after the initiation of the vaccination.

 

ermm logic alert. so 94 people who had covid19 then had a 3rd jab of poison after 7 days of the 2nd which was 2 weeks after the 1st ....... ARE NOW CURED

 

piggie backing upon the bodies natural recovery?

i fecking think so ...

 

right off the bat it is clearly a bullshit jab (like all the others) and until all the side effects are listed and declared over a long period of time the 'vaccine' is snake oil. 

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30 minutes ago, Itsa said:

Australia and New Zealand seem to be the testing ground for how much they can get away with :classic_mellow:

What they are going to say over there is

No jab

No job

 

Yeah but they have a history of this so it will be easier for them to implement. Some Brazilians I know have told me certain mandatory vax programmes exist there also.

 

It isn't unprecedented unfortunately, what is unprecedented is a mandatory vaccine that's been rushed through in under a year and is also a type that has never been used on human subjects before.

 

We've been told now by Starmer that we need to "stamp out anti-vax disinformation", which in effect means harder media propaganda and censorship. There's a lot of contempt on here for the "sheep" but for me the biggest problem is that a lot of them make what seems like the reasonable assumption that what they're seeing on the biggest news channels must be what's really going on and there must really be a concensus of everyone but a few fringe loonies.

 

So what we get is endless pseudoscience and ad hominems of dissenters from the talking heads on Beeb, Sky etc and brilliant interviews with well thought out logical arguments like the one Sucharit Bhakdi just did on Triggernometry are seen by about 10 people. It's maddening. 

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A common argument people have always had against globalist "conspiracy theories" and the New World Order is "if they wanted to do it why not just declare the NWO tomorrow?"

 

I think the answer to that is that there used to be checks and balances on media and politics that would prevent this kind of wide-scale corruption and censorship happening. It seems obvious now that these have been being eroded for the last number of years and are now at a stage where they are close to gone, allowing the power-grab.

 

Theres been the obvious factor of the rise of Google and social media, but it seems to me there's probably been even more going on behind the scenes that isn't obvious to anyone who isn't in the industry.

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23 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

There's a lot of contempt on here for the "sheep" but for me the biggest problem is that a lot of them make what seems like the reasonable assumption that what they're seeing on the biggest news channels must be what's really going on and there must really be a concensus of everyone but a few fringe loonies.

 

I don't like contempt of the "Sheeple" unless they're being downright abusive. I think it's counter productive. We need them to wake up, and many are.

 

One of my friends back in April, I would describe as a sheep. I sent her (from memory) the first of Vernon Coleman's videos and she replied "that's too controversial for me!"

 

NOW in November 2020 she knows it's a hoax because another close friend has been giving her a lot

of FACTS.  Also her brother is a Catholic Priest in the North of England (a hot spot of alleged deaths)

but he has seen no increase in funerals this year.

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11 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

A common argument people have always had against globalist "conspiracy theories" and the New World Order is "if they wanted to do it why not just declare the NWO tomorrow?"

 

I think the answer to that is that there used to be checks and balances on media and politics that would prevent this kind of wide-scale corruption and censorship happening. It seems obvious now that these have been being eroded for the last number of years and are now at a stage where they are close to gone, allowing the power-grab.

 

Theres been the obvious factor of the rise of Google and social media, but it seems to me there's probably been even more going on behind the scenes that isn't obvious to anyone who isn't in the industry.

 

 for this new social contract they need consent and full disclosure

 

they are following the rules

 

most things they do implement is after clearly noticing people. the documents are there to read. nothing is being hidden

the media is the PR spin machine

this is the true power of democracy

 

who can win the opinion race? one side relies upon the media spin , the other relies upon common sense and a modicum of intelligence... its trouble

 

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