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British Medical Journal 13 November 2020

 

"When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die"

 

"Politicians and governments are suppressing science. They do so in the public interest, they say, to accelerate availability of diagnostics and treatments. They do so to support innovation, to bring products to market at unprecedented speed. Both of these reasons are partly plausible; the greatest deceptions are founded in a grain of truth.

 

Science is being suppressed for political and financial gain. Covid-19 has unleashed state corruption on a grand scale, and it is harmful to public health.  Politicians and industry are responsible for this opportunistic embezzlement. So too are scientists and health experts. The pandemic has revealed how the medical-political complex can be manipulated in an emergency—a time when it is even more important to safeguard science.

 

The UK’s pandemic response provides at least four examples of suppression of science or scientists. First, the membership, research, and deliberations of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) were initially secret until a press leak forced transparency.

 

Next, a Public Health England report on covid-19 and inequalities. The report’s publication was delayed by England’s Department of Health; a section on ethnic minorities was initially withheld and then, following a public outcry, was published as part of a follow-up report. Authors from Public Health England were instructed not to talk to the media. Third, on 15 October, the editor of the Lancet complained that an author of a research paper, a UK government scientist, was blocked by the government from speaking to media because of a “difficult political landscape.”

 

Now, a new example concerns the controversy over point-of-care antibody testing for covid-19. The prime minister’s Operation Moonshot depends on immediate and wide availability of accurate rapid diagnostic tests. It also depends on the questionable logic of mass screening—currently being trialled in Liverpool with a suboptimal PCR test.

 

The incident relates to research published this week by The BMJ, which finds that the government procured an antibody test that in real world tests falls well short of performance claims made by its manufacturers. Researchers from Public Health England and collaborating institutions sensibly pushed to publish their study findings before the government committed to buying a million of these tests but were blocked by the health department and the prime minister’s office. Why was it important to procure this product without due scrutiny? Prior publication of research on a preprint server or a government website is compatible with The BMJ’s publication policy. As if to prove a point, Public Health England then unsuccessfully attempted to block The BMJ’s press release about the research paper."

 

More here ....

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=hootsuite&utm_content=sme&utm_campaign=usage

 

 

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1 hour ago, AndyJ said:

Clearly the nasal swab method of testing wasn't harsh enough ...

 

 

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The dawn of the Covid Bottom Inspectors.

 

Viz gives a more accurate - and  prophetic picture of the way we're heading - than the fake news from the Guardian and Daily Mail ever did.

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Stopped watching after he attempted to call John Lennon a hypocrite. Not being funny James, but John Lennon has done more for humanity, even in death, than you have ever. Full stop. Self righteous prick. 

 

I used to like the Beatles as a young leftist, but I find it hard to listen commie hippies these days. 'Imagine' seems like a straight up globalist anthem too, probably why the ADL likes it.

 

 

I would give anything to return to more wholesome times before subversive pop culture poisoned the minds of my people.

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36 minutes ago, Traveller said:

Folk wearing masks in their cars with the windows closed

 I meet people who wear masks in their own home

 

Honest

 

Brw what happened in last 24hrs to send the true believers completely mad. I know shops are limiting numbers again but there are people who have just gone weirder the last day or so

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8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I used to like the Beatles as a young leftist, but I find it hard to listen commie hippies these days. 'Imagine' seems like a straight up globalist anthem too, probably why the ADL likes it.

 

 

I would give anything to return to more wholesome times before subversive pop culture poisoned the minds of my people.

Whilst that may it may not be the case, but do you think Lennon was consciously complicit in doing that? Or do you think he realised and was therefore assassinated as a result? 

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5 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Whilst that may it may not be the case, but do you think Lennon was consciously complicit in doing that? Or do you think he realised and was therefore assassinated as a result? 

 

Not sure, but I have wondered if turning on his handlers may have got him whacked before.

 

If I was made to make tame music aimed at teenyboppers, then slowly dripfeed promiscuous behaviour, drugs, and lots of symbolism, I might be pissed If I knew I had messed with peoples heads.

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