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[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

 

I don't agree that it is as simple as that. Yes if enough people had said NO then yes maybe. Fact is most said yes and to 70%+ of the population you will be blamed for their ills as you are a selfish anti-vaxxer. Your jabbed neighbours will cheer as you lose your job/house or are led away and/or vaxxed against your will.

 

Any who delude themselves that tyrants/dictatorships always fail need but look at china. I don't see any revolution there after welding people into their homes and telling they to dump pets out on the streets in bags for destruction. Why have the chinese not risen up to overthrow Xi?

 

China is the blueprint... the glimpse of what is to come. And the masses will welcome it... no they will beg for it! For safety(vax passes), for convenience(digital id), for prosperity(digital currency).

 

I think that it will be down to individual action ie you will submit or ultimately lose your freedom, perhaps your life. I won't partake in the new normal but I don't kid myself as to what that will mean.

You do have a point but I believe culture is a strong element in this. The Chinese have been systematically worn down for the last 70 years by successive red governments. It's not looking too good in the West at the moment I must admit, but despite the last 2 years I still hold out hope that people will stand against this when it comes to the crunch and remember true Western values. I'm not doing the black pill stuff.

[Oakwise]

33 minutes ago, Doc said:

We just need to ignore the fuckers. Don't do what they tell us. Do not consent. There doesn't need to be a grand final battle. Just say no to what doesn't feel right in your heart. I honestly think it will come down to ordinary people using that simple word... NO. If enough people say it, nothing in their plan can progress.

 

I do agree with you in part. Saying 'no' is half the battle. If enough people said 'no' in that ironically affirmative way, there could be a big change. But, to use a crude analogy, whenever has the word 'no' stopped a rapist? But a good kick in the balls, a punch in the face and a dislocation of the kneecap might just do the trick. 

 

Just sayin'. 

[Covidiot]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

You do have a point but I believe culture is a strong element in this. The Chinese have been systematically worn down for the last 70 years by successive red governments. It's not looking too good in the West at the moment I must admit, but despite the last 2 years I still hold out hope that people will stand against this when it comes to the crunch and remember true Western values. I'm not doing the black pill stuff.

 

Point is saying NO is not enough anymore it's too far gone for that.

 

My hope is once TPTB start to hit the sheep (in the west) where it hurts ie standards of living thats when we will see the big pushback. I mean getting a silly wee jab that costs nothing is perfectly acceptable to your average sheep. Forcing others to do the sheeply thing and get vaxxed is again perfectly acceptable to your average sheep. But tell Mr/Mrs Sheep they are to give up their chelsea tractors, no more holidays and no more meat because of "climate change" i think your average sheep finds that very unacceptable. The only reason their is not a huge backlash now is that 90%+ are just in denial with their heads in the sand.

 

The problem TPTB have is as you say westerners have had it too good for too long so maybe we will see a pushback! Here's hoping so!

[Doc]

Just now, Oakwise said:

 

I do agree with you in part. Saying 'no' is half the battle. If enough people said 'no' in that ironically affirmative way, there could be a big change. But, to use a crude analogy, whenever has the word 'no' stopped a rapist? But a good kick in the balls, a punch in the face and a dislocation of the kneecap might just do the trick. 

 

Just sayin'. 

I'm not sure the PTB are in the right place to be as brazen as a rapist with their plan but I understand what you're getting at. Our job is to try and show our fellow man what to say NO to and make concerted efforts to bring back some old fashioned morality into our degenerated Western world. We need to try and reignite some pride in our cultural heritage, at its heart it is a rational, gentle, tolerant heritage built on rational boundaries. 

[Mikhail Liebestein]

1 hour ago, Covidiot said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62273292

 

Kate McCann "fainted and collapsed" during live talkTV  debate

 

Recently boosted??

 

Had to double check they hadn't found Madeleine.

But think it is a different Kate!!

[Nip]

1 hour ago, Covidiot said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62273292

 

Kate McCann "fainted and collapsed" during live talkTV  debate

 

Recently boosted??

 

Could be climate change, pollution or she's been spending too much time in the garden around soil

[Observations]

GB News:

German government shines light on severity of vaccine damage.

 

I wish they wouldn't keep using the word light. I noticed during convid (I like that word) the media used to overuse light at the end of the tunnel. Havent seen that one for a while, well not since they stopped telling us that things can only get better, I suppose?  

[DaleP]

2 hours ago, Covidiot said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62273292

 

Kate McCann "fainted and collapsed" during live talkTV  debate

 

Recently boosted??

 

oops.

Boosted? Likely.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

 

Point is saying NO is not enough anymore it's too far gone for that.

 

My hope is once TPTB start to hit the sheep (in the west) where it hurts ie standards of living thats when we will see the big pushback. I mean getting a silly wee jab that costs nothing is perfectly acceptable to your average sheep. Forcing others to do the sheeply thing and get vaxxed is again perfectly acceptable to your average sheep. But tell Mr/Mrs Sheep they are to give up their chelsea tractors, no more holidays and no more meat because of "climate change" i think your average sheep finds that very unacceptable. The only reason their is not a huge backlash now is that 90%+ are just in denial with their heads in the sand.

 

The problem TPTB have is as you say westerners have had it too good for too long so maybe we will see a pushback! Here's hoping so!

I don't think it is too far gone just to say NO. Its never too far gone for that. There isn't going to be a grand event which unites everyone, that is almost certain if you look back historically at these kinds of hostile cultural take overs in the past. It's a slow grind and we are witnessing that right now with the cost of living, climate, food, inflation BS.

 

They are having to move unnaturally fast in the West this will be their problem in the year to come. At this point in time I can't see jackboots busting people's doors down in the UK but it's not impossible in the future.

 

We need to be intelligent and calm in this time I think. Study their moves and if possible try to initiate positive local actions to thwart their bullshit. This doesn't need to be massive marches, any small act is good enough, shopping locally with cash, buying directly from local food producers, swapping some potatoes you've grown with some eggs from a neighbour who keeps chickens.  Spreading wholesome cooperation in your own community anyway possible.

 

At this stage of the game staying positive and innovative is key. It's best to focus on what you can gain rather than what you are scared of losing. 

[Oakwise]

24 minutes ago, Doc said:

I'm not sure the PTB are in the right place to be as brazen as a rapist with their plan but I understand what you're getting at. Our job is to try and show our fellow man what to say NO to and make concerted efforts to bring back some old fashioned morality into our degenerated Western world. We need to try and reignite some pride in our cultural heritage, at its heart it is a rational, gentle, tolerant heritage built on rational boundaries. 

 

I actually agree. It was a crude analogy to express the idea of taking some kind of action. Saying 'no' was the start, but some other kind of action was also needed to thwart the abuser. In your above example, the action would be encouraging good people to act against the grain from a point of reasoned understanding of why it's wrong. But ultimately some kind of action will be needed. 

 

 

[Covidiot]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

I don't think it is too far gone just to say NO. Its never too far gone for that. There isn't going to be a grand event which unites everyone, that is almost certain if you look back historically at these kinds of hostile cultural take overs in the past. It's a slow grind and we are witnessing that right now with the cost of living, climate, food, inflation BS.

 

They are having to move unnaturally fast in the West this will be their problem in the year to come. At this point in time I can't see jackboots busting people's doors down in the UK but it's not impossible in the future.

 

We need to be intelligent and calm in this time I think. Study their moves and if possible try to initiate positive local actions to thwart their bullshit. This doesn't need to be massive marches, any small act is good enough, shopping locally with cash, buying directly from local food producers, swapping some potatoes you've grown with some eggs from a neighbour who keeps chickens.  Spreading wholesome cooperation in your own community anyway possible.

 

At this stage of the game staying positive and innovative is key. It's best to focus on what you can gain rather than what you are scared of losing. 

 

I don't think we need a grand event to unite everyone. What I do believe is that we need a mass awakening or all those great positive things you mention cannot come to pass.

 

The fact is until the sheep wake up to what we are potentially sleepwalking into then there can be no positive change IMHO.

 

I agree with small individual actions and have taken many myself. Use cash. Started to grow my own. Making preperations to not be reliant on the state in an y circumstance. But these things will be harder and harder if the sheep don't wtfu.

 

Positivity is fine but we need ACTION and that action that we need is to RAISE AWARENESS and wake the sheep up to the evils of what is unfolding. And your right it doesn't have to be big but each of us need to constantly battle the lies and propaganda and try to bring others over to our side.

 

[Tinfoil Hat]

They're such tricksters. Only tonight while driving home from work with the local radio station on, they were talking again about how people won't be able to afford heating this winter. So our heroic saviours, the councils are focusing on how they can provide more help.

 

People take away the impression that they are looked out for. They can't see how they're being robbed with one hand, and a major production is being made of giving a small pittance back, out of sheer benevolence of course, to some people with the other.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Oakwise said:

 

I actually agree. It was a crude analogy to express the idea of taking some kind of action. Saying 'no' was the start, but some other kind of action was also needed to thwart the abuser. In your above example, the action would be encouraging good people to act against the grain from a point of reasoned understanding of why it's wrong. But ultimately some kind of action will be needed. 

 

 

I agree that an action of some kind seems inevitable but what kind of action? We have seen massive marches these last 2 years but the normies haven't coz it's not been on the TV and if it has it's presented us as a bunch of lunatics trying to stop the government from saving their Nan's life. Genuinely interested to know what form this action will take...

[Covidiot]

3 minutes ago, Oakwise said:

 

I actually agree. It was a crude analogy to express the idea of taking some kind of action. Saying 'no' was the start, but some other kind of action was also needed to thwart the abuser. In your above example, the action would be encouraging good people to act against the grain from a point of reasoned understanding of why it's wrong. But ultimately some kind of action will be needed. 

 

 

 

Totally agree we need action. And that action needs only be to wake up the masses and bring to light the bullshit and propaganda. Then we can have change.

[Morpheus]

2 hours ago, Covidiot said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62273292

 

Kate McCann "fainted and collapsed" during live talkTV  debate

 

Recently boosted??

One can hope, for the greater good and keep children safe. 

[DaleP]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

I agree that an action of some kind seems inevitable but what kind of action? We have seen massive marches these last 2 years but the normies haven't coz it's not been on the TV and if it has it's presented us as a bunch of lunatics trying to stop the government from saving their Nan's life. Genuinely interested to know what form this action will take...

 

It's wrong way to think we need MSM support.

If they want to film it and put it on the news, it's upto them.

Equally, waiting for normies to join our cause is like watching paint dry and it's a waste of time.

We should do what we see fit and leave it at that. Aren't we the force to reckon with? OR do we need normies? Bearing in mind, we could still be waiting for them in the next five years. A lot can be done in five years on our own. Basically, normies are lazy. Waiting people to offer them a plate of something tasty and that usually means financial incentive and they will all rush towards us if it benefits them....then all....we will be forgotten or they might say...."oh that was ages ago." You get my gist.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

 

I don't think we need a grand event to unite everyone. What I do believe is that we need a mass awakening or all those great positive things you mention cannot come to pass.

 

The fact is until the sheep wake up to what we are potentially sleepwalking into then there can be no positive change IMHO.

 

I agree with small individual actions and have taken many myself. Use cash. Started to grow my own. Making preperations to not be reliant on the state in an y circumstance. But these things will be harder and harder if the sheep don't wtfu.

 

Positivity is fine but we need ACTION and that action that we need is to RAISE AWARENESS and wake the sheep up to the evils of what is unfolding. And your right it doesn't have to be big but each of us need to constantly battle the lies and propaganda and try to bring others over to our side.

 

Outside of the cities much of the stuff I talked about takes place as a matter of course even now in these techno times. We're all here bashing away on laptops and phones but out in the country somewhere someone is reading a book by lamplight...

 

If any actions take place they will need to be calm, measured, intellectually sound and rational because the last 2.5 years show us that foaming at the mouth conspiracy theorists shouting about something they saw in a Stu Peters video on bitchute have got us absolutely nowhere.

[Oakwise]

12 minutes ago, Doc said:

I agree that an action of some kind seems inevitable but what kind of action? We have seen massive marches these last 2 years but the normies haven't coz it's not been on the TV and if it has it's presented us as a bunch of lunatics trying to stop the government from saving their Nan's life. Genuinely interested to know what form this action will take...

 

Those marches are part of the bigger pattern of action. At least they were a demonstration of strength. In the animal kingdom, displaying your strength is a part of survival. As to other possible actions: I'll leave that down to people's individual conscience, reason and imagination - I'm not into collectivist thinking. I could speculate, but that wasn't the original point: The point was to act, and not just simply speak. Though I appreciate that discussion has its place. 

[Covidiot]

6 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

It's wrong way to think we need MSM support.

If they want to film it and put it on the news, it's upto them.

Equally, waiting for normies to join our cause is like watching paint dry and it's a waste of time.

We should do what we see fit and leave it at that. Aren't we the force to reckon with? OR do we need normies? Bearing in mind, we could still be waiting for them in the next five years. A lot can be done in five years on our own. Basically, normies are lazy. Waiting people to offer them a plate of something tasty and that usually means financial incentive and they will all rush towards us if it benefits them....then all....we will be forgotten or they might say...."oh that was ages ago." You get my gist.

 

TBH i'm pinning my hopes on the normies coming over to our side purely because of the financial disincentive about to be unleashed upon them. But perhaps you are right.

[Tinfoil Hat]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

Outside of the cities much of the stuff I talked about takes place as a matter of course even now in these techno times. We're all here bashing away on laptops and phones but out in the country somewhere someone is reading a book by lamplight...

 

If any actions take place they will need to be calm, measured, intellectually sound and rational because the last 2.5 years show us that foaming at the mouth conspiracy theorists shouting about something they saw in a Stu Peters video on bitchute have got us absolutely nowhere.

 

That's hugely coincidental because it's something I just happened to be thinking about. When you've been attuned to this stuff for years and are accutely aware of how hazardous things are now, it's not easy to contain that urgency but it's really necessary to be, as you say, measured and rational. You just spook people otherwise and appear unhinged.

[DaleP]

Just now, Covidiot said:

 

TBH i'm pinning my hopes on the normies coming over to our side purely because of the financial disincentive about to be unleashed upon them. But perhaps you are right.

 

You are living in the la la land.

 

Listen what Doc said above. 2.5 F'ing years and.....

[Oakwise]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 in the country somewhere someone is reading a book by lamplight...

 

Haha I live in the country and still read books by lamplight. 

[numnuts]

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

Must have been the heat. Oh wait, it's 62F today....

[Oakwise]

3 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Must have been the heat. Oh wait, it's 62F today....

 

Or the simple act of breathing. Dontcha know, breathing causes myocarditis!