bamboozooka 1,339 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pete675 43 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: have any of them checked what the spray is and what is in it? Are any of them collecting samples of the spray and having them independently tested to see if there is anything harmful in it? Indeed, look what they got up to in the good old days: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience "The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public. " That was then, so what do you think are they are up to now? This Guardian article is from 18 years ago, nothing like this would ever be published today, now that the paper is supported by the philanthropy (hah, hah) of the Bill n' Melinda Foundation. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexa 666 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Go on blame us as per........... I wouldn't mind but us and all these anti-vaxers are absolutely right. Nine out of ten people WOULD get a coronavirus vaccine but are 6.4% LESS likely after reading anti-vaxxer fake news online Two studies from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine looked at how willing the public would be to accept a coronavirus vaccine. 551 comments 535 shares https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8941925/Nine-ten-people-coronavirus-vaccine.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Retriever 3,440 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 9 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Match of the spray: 1,000 fans go through anti-Covid disinfection pods before being allowed to watch Northern Ireland play football https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8943693/1-000-fans-disinfection-pods-allowed-watch-Northern-Ireland-play-football.html What the hell is the matter with people. It's nuts. A member of the public pauses in a disinfection pod prior to the UEFA Euro 2020 Play-off Finals Match at Windsor Park in Belfast on Thursday evening 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Retriever 3,440 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, pete675 said: Indeed, look what they got up to in the good old days: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience "The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public. " That was then, so what do you think are they are up to now? This Guardian article is from 18 years ago, nothing like this would ever be published today, now that the paper is supported by the philanthropy (hah, hah) of the Bill n' Melinda Foundation. I've shared that article before because it is revealing. Thanks for the reminder. Also from that piece. "Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.' Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.' You betcha they are still spraying, but Ms Ellison will have signed the Official Secrets Act Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pete675 43 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: I've shared that article before because it is revealing. Thanks for the reminder. Also from that piece. "Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.' Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.' You betcha they are still spraying, but Ms Ellison will have signed the Official Secrets Act Another link between 'coronavirus' ( the common cold!) and dangerous/unethical experimentation is the Common Cold Unit that closely collaborated with Porton Down. http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/west/series1/porton-down.shtml 'Nerve gases such as Sarin and CS gas were tested on volunteer servicemen. Servicemen were offered around £2 and three days leave as an incentive to take part in tests. Very few servicemen knew what they were volunteering for and some were even told it was research into the cure for the common cold.' Question: will the BBC and Guardian now denounce their own old articles as 'fake news'? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noctua 387 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: Well, at least it's making the MSM. Comments section is interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy Owl 2,245 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: Kyle Griffin's response is typical '77th Brigade' reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bombadil 229 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, jonesthepost said: @numnuts Depends on what your beliefs are re higher states of consciousness etc. Icke believes that this is just an experience, and when we’re done here, we move on to another; I tend towards that belief myself. I don’t know about ‘needing’ them; I’ve read a bit about balance, as in dark/light etc; that we need the ‘bad’ so we can see the ‘good’; and it pertaining as well to learning and growing. In that case, we do need them. Ive read also that there is no good or bad, it just is, but I’m not buying that one personally. Again, it all depends on your beliefs. I hope this right as well! Though even if this is an experience, IMO we could all be pro active in making it a more pleasant affair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimonTV 866 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Edited November 13, 2020 by SimonTV 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimonTV 866 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-deaths-for-people-with-learning-disability-in-england-six-times-average YEA? that is because they sent out do not resuscitate orders for vulnerable people. One disabled person even received a letter that basically said, don't bother calling anyone if you get sick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimonTV 866 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Covid-19 vaccines may have potentially unpleasant side effects https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-may-have-potentially-unpleasant-side-effects-n1247485 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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northern star 496 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, SimonTV said: More on that story https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8945123/Elon-Musk-says-tested-positive-negative-twice-COVID-19-one-day.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonesthepost 443 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, Bombadil said: I hope this right as well! Though even if this is an experience, IMO we could all be pro active in making it a more pleasant affair. I think most of us try to make it a more pleasant affair; a lot of the time though, the odds are stacked against us. Thats when it comes down to that it is up to the Individual to make our time here pleasant; to have the fortitude and knowing and serenity to be totally at peace with ourselves and the world, no matter what the circumstances are. Fantastic concept but not at all easy to achieve. Im having a damn good try though lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basket Case 2,818 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 93% inaccurate... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orange Alert 653 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, SimonTV said: Covid-19 vaccines may have potentially unpleasant side effects https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-may-have-potentially-unpleasant-side-effects-n1247485 This is beyond a joke. Two vaccine shots are required and because it's ONLY 90% effective, social distacing and masks have to continue. So do we end up with an "official" death rate of around 0.0004% and it's still business as usual for day to day restrictions? Quote The vaccine, and likely most others, will require two doses to work, injections that must be given weeks apart, company protocols show. Scientists anticipate that the shots will cause enervating flu-like side effects — including sore arms, muscle aches and fever — that could last days and temporarily sideline some people from work or school. And even if a vaccine proves 90 percent effective, the rate Pfizer touted for its product, 1 in 10 recipients would still be vulnerable. That means, at least in the short term, as population-level immunity grows, people can't stop social distancing and throw away their masks. Edited November 13, 2020 by Orange Alert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Illmatic 628 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Orange Alert said: This is beyond a joke. Two vaccine shots are required and because it's ONLY 90% effective, social distacing and masks have to continue. So do we end up with an "official" death rate of around 0.0004% and it's still business as usual for day to day restrictions? Said it before but it's worth saying again. I want the restrictions to stay in place after there's a vaccine available if it means all these knuckle-draggers expecting a grand reopening finally wake up. Lost count of the amount of people who've told me "oh I'd love to do X, it's the first thing I'll do after Covid". Well I've got news for you, if we all bend the knee for these technocrats you're never going to do it, there's not going to be "after Covid" only the "new normal". Time to get real. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidlittle 98 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 MP barred from Warrington pubs... This should happen nationwide Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Retriever 3,440 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I'm not sure where or when this was, but imagine if thousands of these messages were plastered in towns and cities all over the country. 12 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Illmatic 628 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: I'm not sure where or when this was, but imagine if thousands of these messages were plastered in towns and cities all over the country. Was in Ireland, put up by ex-journalist Gemma O'Doherty and a few others. She was arrested for it. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bamboozooka 1,339 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: I'm not sure where or when this was, but imagine if thousands of these messages were plastered in towns and cities all over the country. the cognitive dissonance is so strong it doesn't matter how many are put up. instead of waking up they just dump it in the brains recycle bin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimonTV 866 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 The Trouble With PCR Tests https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
numnuts 438 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Was in Ireland, put up by ex-journalist Gemma O'Doherty and a few others. She was arrested for it. More Covid deaths. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/gemma-o-doherty-could-face-further-charges-over-n11-bridge-protest-1.4360432 'Gardaí received a number of complaints about the banners, which contained anti-facemask and anti-vaccination messages, and decided to remove them after observing motorists swerving as a result of being distracted by the signs.' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Retriever 3,440 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Was in Ireland, put up by ex-journalist Gemma O'Doherty and a few others. She was arrested for it. Gemma O'Doherty was arrested, but that's not the same road Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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