Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[peter]

Apparently we have a vaccine now that is 92% effective against the flu (covid) with no mention of it's after effects. If in the large majority of cases  there are no noticeable ill effects at all, how will you know if it is effective or not when the virus is so awful the majority of people infected don't even know they have it . However the sheep will line up to have the jab and be happy in the knowledge that it has obviously saved them because they didn't get it, and they won't connect the dots when a couple of years down the track their health starts falling apart because their RNA and DNA have been stuffed with

[jonesthepost]

4 hours ago, CitizenX said:

 

The thing is that the people you mention (the sheep) only react like that because the government and media (the shepherds) direct them to do so.

 

The sheep will always follow the shepherd, regardless of who it is, so once we obtain the shepherd's crook they will follow us, with the same blind loyalty.

 

The only difference is that we would be infinitely more benevolent shepherds.

 

A few dedicated individuals and groups can change history.

 

Good luck with that mate.

 

The masses have been indoctrinated by the nobs for literally ages, and I can’t see that changing much for most anytime soon.

And how are you going to obtain that ‘crook’?

 

Humans are too perverse - and adverse, and just plain varied.

There are the ones who are just plain thick; the ones who know it’s all lies but can’t be arsed caring about it; the ones who think, I’m alright Jack, and as long as that’s so, no worries; then the so called ‘progressives’ who want a nwo that eventually leads to AI big time;  the ones who think our ‘dear leaders’ wouldn’t be so nasty to us - the most dangerous imo; and so on.

 

And if you did manage to overcome such odds, the ‘infinitely more benevolent shepherds’ would eventually churn out their share of tyrants and arseholes wanting to have their very own elite; it’s the nature of the beast - human nature.

 

This is the ‘real’ world, not a movie with a script where it all ends happily ever after.

 

Having said all that lol, yep, the only thing I can see working at all is to do a   V for Vendetta and get rid of all the lying msm harlots - hang em high too, lying evil  arselickers - and broadcast on all media loud and long the truth.

 

I have no idea what the outcome will be, tbh, it doesn’t really matter. Said it before, it’s just a ride.

 

I will not comply with any of their shit; I will carry on trying to spread the truth.

As a few others here have said; I’d rather take my chances in the ‘wild’, or die trying; no big deal; onwards and upwards.

 

[peter]

17 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Wish I was 63 again and knew what I know now.

Don't sell yourself short so if you don't mind I will call you Mr Stardust this may  be able to help with your situation ,I know it's off topic and apologize for that, what may help you is toward the end ,however if you watch the entire video I'm sure you will find it extremely interesting

 

[factJack]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

fuck being sprayed by some mystery juice. People are too trusting

 

maybe the plan is roll out a few crazy absurd so called solutions let the mainstream press do what they do best and so people will think "fuck that less hassle to get the jab"

 

 

one of the comments on the mail website caught my eye

 

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How to kill off white working class lads in one go . Chemical sprays killing off their natural bacteria and ionising radiation through UV light at high levels.

 

Get the spray pods for 1000 people watchihg football outside in a 20k arena however none of this bullshit for the london palladium crowds of 4000 eh?

 

its so blatent

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by factJack
missed a word out when i read it back

[Orange Alert]

12 hours ago, zArk said:

The pcr test generally produces a rate of 1% false positives. Covid19 incidence is 0.2%. So for every 1000 tests 10 are false positives and 2 are positive positives

 

So the healthy tests positive

So the symptomatic tests positive

 

Its why the experts say pcr test shouldnt be used for mass testing

Its why the agenda requires the pcr test for everyone, all the time

 

You can test +ve day 1

Day 2 test -ve 

 

 

You can test +ve and -ve on the same day by having tests done at different laboratories.

[numnuts]

3 hours ago, jonesthepost said:

And if you did manage to overcome such odds, the ‘infinitely more benevolent shepherds’ would eventually churn out their share of tyrants and arseholes wanting to have their very own elite; it’s the nature of the beast - human nature. This is the ‘real’ world, not a movie with a script where it all ends happily ever after.

 

Of course, this has to be a concern and Orwell, who personally knew of 'The Plan', eloquently addressed the dilemma in 'Animal Farm' (1945). For the record, I would refuse the proverbial 'One Ring' myself. However, as we all know, Orwell went on to write 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' (1949). He was not in good health, in his later years, and he died just 6 months after 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' was published. Personally, I don't think he would have proceeded with 'Nineteen Eighty-Four', unless he at least had some optimism for the future of humanity.

 

Let us assume Orwell was wrong though and we are unable to collectively ascend to a higher state of consciousness. We are doomed, as a species, to ride a societal carousel run by an endless queue of tyrants and arseholes. Is it still not better to have a smaller reset now and then, so as to stop things getting 'really bad'? We are talking some serious bullshit going down at the moment; not just a few porky pies being told and some insignificant backhanders being passed around. Personally, I am optimistic about the future. Not in the sense of humanity ever establishing a permanent Utopia, but in the sense of things can be so much better than they are now. We do not need them.         

Edited November 13, 2020 by numnuts

[numnuts]

23 minutes ago, numnuts said:

We do not need them.         

 

Anyone think otherwise? As in a 'society needs psychos to function in a crisis' kind of way? I have heard that said before on this or that TV programme. Not on here, I hasten to add.

Edited November 13, 2020 by numnuts

[jonesthepost]

@numnuts  Depends on what your beliefs are re higher states of consciousness etc.

 

Icke believes that this is just an experience, and when we’re done here, we move on to another; I tend towards that belief myself.

 

I don’t know about ‘needing’ them; I’ve read a bit about balance, as in dark/light etc; that we need the ‘bad’ so we can see the ‘good’; and it pertaining as well to learning and growing.

In that case, we do need them.

 

Ive read also that there is no good or bad, it just is, but I’m not buying that one personally.

 

Again, it all depends on your beliefs.

[bamboozooka]

[pete675]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

have any of them checked what the spray is and what is in it?

 

Are any of them collecting samples of the spray and having them independently tested to see if there is anything harmful in it?

 

 

Indeed, look what they got up to in the good old days:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

 

"The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public. "

 

That was then, so what do you think are they are up to now?

 

This Guardian article is from 18 years ago, nothing like this would ever be published today, now that the paper is supported by the philanthropy (hah, hah) of the Bill n' Melinda Foundation.

 

 

[alexa]

Go on blame us as per........... I wouldn't mind but us and all these anti-vaxers are absolutely right.

 

Nine out of ten people WOULD get a coronavirus vaccine but are 6.4% LESS likely after reading anti-vaxxer fake news online

Two studies from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine looked at how willing the public would be to accept a coronavirus vaccine.

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[Golden Retriever]

9 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Match of the spray: 1,000 fans go through anti-Covid disinfection pods before being allowed to watch Northern Ireland play football
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8943693/1-000-fans-disinfection-pods-allowed-watch-Northern-Ireland-play-football.html

 

What the hell is the matter with people. It's nuts.

 

 

 

A member of the public pauses in a disinfection pod prior to the UEFA Euro 2020 Play-off Finals Match at Windsor Park in Belfast on Thursday evening

[Golden Retriever]

23 minutes ago, pete675 said:

 

 

Indeed, look what they got up to in the good old days:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

 

"The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public. "

 

That was then, so what do you think are they are up to now?

 

This Guardian article is from 18 years ago, nothing like this would ever be published today, now that the paper is supported by the philanthropy (hah, hah) of the Bill n' Melinda Foundation.

 

 

 

 

I've shared that article before because it is revealing. Thanks for the reminder.

 

Also from that piece.

 

"Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.' Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'

 

You betcha they are still spraying, but Ms Ellison will have signed the Official Secrets Act

[pete675]

9 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

I've shared that article before because it is revealing. Thanks for the reminder.

 

Also from that piece.

 

"Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.' Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'

 

You betcha they are still spraying, but Ms Ellison will have signed the Official Secrets Act

 

 

Another link between 'coronavirus' ( the common cold!) and dangerous/unethical experimentation is the Common Cold Unit  that closely collaborated with Porton Down.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/west/series1/porton-down.shtml

 

'Nerve gases such as Sarin and CS gas were tested on volunteer servicemen.

Servicemen were offered around £2 and three days leave as an incentive to take part in tests.

Very few servicemen knew what they were volunteering for and some were even told it was research into the cure for the common cold.'

 

Question: will the BBC and Guardian now  denounce their own old articles as 'fake news'? 

 

 

 

 

[Noctua]

46 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

 

Well, at least it's making the MSM.  Comments section is interesting.

[Grumpy Owl]

52 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

 

Kyle Griffin's response is typical '77th Brigade' reply.

[Bombadil]

2 hours ago, jonesthepost said:

@numnuts  Depends on what your beliefs are re higher states of consciousness etc.

 

Icke believes that this is just an experience, and when we’re done here, we move on to another; I tend towards that belief myself.

 

I don’t know about ‘needing’ them; I’ve read a bit about balance, as in dark/light etc; that we need the ‘bad’ so we can see the ‘good’; and it pertaining as well to learning and growing.

In that case, we do need them.

 

Ive read also that there is no good or bad, it just is, but I’m not buying that one personally.

 

Again, it all depends on your beliefs.

I hope this right as well! Though even if this is an experience, IMO we could    all be pro active in making it a more pleasant affair.

[SimonTV]

 

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by SimonTV

[SimonTV]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-deaths-for-people-with-learning-disability-in-england-six-times-average

 

YEA? that is because they sent out do not resuscitate orders for vulnerable people. One disabled person even received a letter that basically said, don't bother calling anyone if you get sick. 

[SimonTV]

Covid-19 vaccines may have potentially unpleasant side effects

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-may-have-potentially-unpleasant-side-effects-n1247485

[SimonTV]

[northern star]

26 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

 

More on that story

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8945123/Elon-Musk-says-tested-positive-negative-twice-COVID-19-one-day.html

[jonesthepost]

35 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

I hope this right as well! Though even if this is an experience, IMO we could    all be pro active in making it a more pleasant affair.

 

I think most of us try to make it a more pleasant affair; a lot of the time though, the odds are stacked against us.

 

Thats when it comes down to that it is up to the Individual to make our time here pleasant; to have the fortitude and knowing and serenity to be totally at peace with ourselves and the world, no matter what the circumstances are.

 

Fantastic concept but not at all easy to achieve.

Im having a damn good try though lol.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

 

93% inaccurate...

 

 

[Orange Alert]

52 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Covid-19 vaccines may have potentially unpleasant side effects

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-may-have-potentially-unpleasant-side-effects-n1247485

 

This is beyond a joke. Two vaccine shots are required and because it's ONLY 90% effective, social distacing and masks have to continue.    So do we end up with an "official" death rate of around 0.0004% and it's still business as usual for day to day restrictions?

 

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The vaccine, and likely most others, will require two doses to work, injections that must be given weeks apart, company protocols show. Scientists anticipate that the shots will cause enervating flu-like side effects — including sore arms, muscle aches and fever — that could last days and temporarily sideline some people from work or school. And even if a vaccine proves 90 percent effective, the rate Pfizer touted for its product, 1 in 10 recipients would still be vulnerable. That means, at least in the short term, as population-level immunity grows, people can't stop social distancing and throw away their masks.

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by Orange Alert