shadowmoon Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Illmatic said: If we're told to take it but that we also have to continue the lockdowns I think it'll be a big mistake on their part Absolutely so. "I had the bleeding vaccine wot d'yer mean I still can't go to the pub?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Maybe this will be their downfall in the end, this greed for even greater control. If they just open up with a vaccine mandate or voluntary but with impossible restrictions for those who won't take it I think the public will largely bite. But the vaccine is seen as a panacea now, a golden ticket out of lockdown. If we're told to take it but that we also have to continue the lockdowns I think it'll be a big mistake on their part, a big wake up call to everyone that there's really no way out of this unless we decide as a people we've had enough of it. I think they are so sure of their grip in power and so intoxicated on it that they are not really bothered if we know that the vaccine is not the ticket out of lockdown They are essentially telling us that they are going to do everything that 'conspiracy theorists' have been saying they are going to do They are going to inject us with their nanotech They are going to create a new lockdown gulag society: the 'new normal' They are going to cast the masses into unemployment and then make them dependent on the state They are going to make us irrelevant through automation and artificial intelligence and once that happens they really see no point in us remaining around at all Edited November 11, 2020 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: They are going to inject us with their nanotech if you are paying attention they aren't really hiding much at all: Scientists develop a 'nanoparticle' COVID-19 vaccine that could trigger a 10-times stronger immune response than the reaction seen in survivors and protect against future mutated strains Scientists have developed an experimental vaccine that uses nanoparticles, which mimic the structural features of the coronavirus The body is trained to recognize the receptors the virus uses to enter and infect human cells, and builds up antibodies In mice, the virus produced ten times more neutralizing antibodies than those seen in COVID-19 survivors The jab also produced a strong memory cell response, in which the body remembers the invading virus to produce antibodies if infected in the future In one monkey, the vaccine bound to different parts of the vaccine's spike protein, which could protect against future mutated strains By Mary Kekatos Senior Health Reporter For Dailymail.com Published: 22:06, 2 November 2020 | Updated: 13:30, 3 November 2020 Scientists say they have developed an experimental coronavirus vaccine candidate that is far more potent than others currently being investigated. In trials conducted in mice, the team from the University of Washington School of Medicine said its vaccine triggered a 10-times stronger immune response to the infection than seen in COVID-19 survivors. What's more, it also provoked a strong memory cell response, in which the body remembers the invading virus to produce antibodies more quickly if infected.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8906965/Scientists-developed-COVID-19-vaccine-trigger-10-times-stronger-immune-response.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, shadowmoon said: Absolutely so. "I had the bleeding vaccine wot d'yer mean I still can't go to the pub?" by that point its too late though; once they have that tech in you they can control you that's why they are going all in on this one....this jab is their gamechanger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: if you are paying attention they aren't really hiding much at all: Scientists develop a 'nanoparticle' COVID-19 vaccine that could trigger a 10-times stronger immune response than the reaction seen in survivors and protect against future mutated strains Scientists have developed an experimental vaccine that uses nanoparticles, which mimic the structural features of the coronavirus The body is trained to recognize the receptors the virus uses to enter and infect human cells, and builds up antibodies In mice, the virus produced ten times more neutralizing antibodies than those seen in COVID-19 survivors The jab also produced a strong memory cell response, in which the body remembers the invading virus to produce antibodies if infected in the future In one monkey, the vaccine bound to different parts of the vaccine's spike protein, which could protect against future mutated strains By Mary Kekatos Senior Health Reporter For Dailymail.com Published: 22:06, 2 November 2020 | Updated: 13:30, 3 November 2020 Scientists say they have developed an experimental coronavirus vaccine candidate that is far more potent than others currently being investigated. In trials conducted in mice, the team from the University of Washington School of Medicine said its vaccine triggered a 10-times stronger immune response to the infection than seen in COVID-19 survivors. What's more, it also provoked a strong memory cell response, in which the body remembers the invading virus to produce antibodies more quickly if infected.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8906965/Scientists-developed-COVID-19-vaccine-trigger-10-times-stronger-immune-response.html I'd take my chances with the flu again than have any of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: (out of likes) love it Morpheus spot on mate. names and addresses for these people.........NOW!!!! sick of unsubstantiated statements and remarks. COME ON GUARDIAN - GIVE THE INFO TO PROVE... otherwise - you are all liars! and, if you're reading this guardian and other shit so-called 'news' outlets - the whole fucking world is on to you! Time to do what you were put on planet earth to do - tell the truth. Out of likes... totally agree... Useless rag peddling absolute LIES. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, shadowmoon said: I'd take my chances with the flu again than have any of that yes and if we lived in a free society and if this whole thing was really about a new flu-strain and if the vaccines actually gave people protection against that new flu-strain then the government should have no problem with you doing that The problem is that they haven't proven the existence of a new flu-strain, they haven't proven their vaccine protects against that and you don't live in a free society So what will happen after this first tranche of injections is that they will change their policies to then seek to inject a further tranche of people and so on and so on They don't give a crap about your individual liberties and in fact the concept of individual freedoms is a complete anathema to their planned for centralised, top down technocratic society Which is why at some point they will try and get that needle into you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmoon Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, Macnamara said: The problem is that they haven't proven the existence of a new flu-strain, they haven't proven their vaccine protects against that and you don't live in a free society They don't have to, just saying it is real made it so for most people. People don't have the inclination to find stuff out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Itsa said: Don't know if anyone remembers this guy. Reported as the first British person to have caught covid19 and also claimed his cat caught it as well and died. He was found dead in his room at Bangor university on the 25th of October. Apologies if this has already been posted but I only became aware of this today. Article here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8922933/Mystery-death-Briton-revealed-Covid-cover-up.html CONnor the spooky crisis actor, one minute hes bald, next has hair lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, shadowmoon said: They don't have to, just saying it is real made it so for most people. People don't have the inclination to find stuff out. If they used real facts and figures then they would listen to ex pfizer chief Dr Yeadon who is saying the pandemic is essentially over according to the official figures Whats driving the fake figures is false positive test results from PCR tests that are being done at over 40 cycles and that's why they want MORE testing because the more PCR tests they do the more false positives they'll get which they will then falsely claim are 'cases' and the corporate media will then fraudulently publish those as the figures So they can't actually look at reality itself and that is why they use computer modelling because by controlling what you put into the model you can get it to tell you anything you like You could create a computer model that says that space is full of cheese and that gravity pulls the cheese together therefore it is expected that the moon will be made of cheese Edited November 11, 2020 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: CONnor the spooky crisis actor, one minute hes bald, next has hair lol hairloss....no doubt that was the covid that did that yup all bald people should be listed down as 'covid positive' and then reported in the papers as 'cases' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, shadowmoon said: They don't have to, just saying it is real made it so for most people. People don't have the inclination to find stuff out. They did the same thing with currency when they took it off the gold standard Now currency isn't pegged to anything tangible It is essentially now just an abstraction on a computer screen but for as long as everyone buys into it then it has power but all kinds of things have been used as money in the past. If we all got together and decided tomorrow that a certain type of sea shell was our new currency then that would become the new currency Its all about perception. If you perceive it to be real then you will behave as if its real. Doesn't mean it is real though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I think they are so sure of their grip in power and so intoxicated on it that they are not really bothered if we know that the vaccine is not the ticket out of lockdown They are essentially telling us that they are going to do everything that 'conspiracy theorists' have been saying they are going to do They are going to inject us with their nanotech They are going to create a new lockdown gulag society: the 'new normal' They are going to cast the masses into unemployment and then make them dependent on the state They are going to make us irrelevant through automation and artificial intelligence and once that happens they really see no point in us remaining around at all Yeah, I think this is our best hope. A good politician is sensitive to his audience. I've read Klaus Schwab's work and he is so out of touch with the way normal people think it's laughable. I get the feeling he thinks people genuinely want a new normal because that's what he wants, and aren't just accepting it out of fear. I kind of hope the vaccine isn't the end of it. As shadowmoon said "what do you mean I still can't go to the pub?!" The penny has to finally drop for even the most committed sheeple at that stage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, HAARPING_On said: Out of likes... totally agree... Useless rag peddling absolute LIES. Thanks Haarping, yes, absolute lies indeed, I've been to totnes a while back and I can say it's a beautiful and lively little town, a friend of mine lived there and used to go to the art school there, and says it's a right old mix of people, mostly good hearted people, was once a major hippie town, and alot of alternative types - even a steiner school is still there, but alot of the town has been 'watered down' by rich londerners moving in and buying up property, he says anyone wearing a mask outside is usually one of the selfish boomer types that walk around like zombies along with the richer upper-class type families there - with lots of money - so alot of selfish old boomers mixed in with the alternative types and normal everyday people and families. Interesting little town and good people on the whole there. Good to see that at least this little town is not letting the covid bollocks take over and is getting off its backside and trying to do something positive, other towns follow suit! Edited November 11, 2020 by sickofallthebollocks add word 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatlyMcGreat Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I was wondering, if the test doesn’t actually test for the virus but for genetic material, how about the people who test positive and then test negative after getting over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubsandwich Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 https://uk.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/covid-19-vaccine-optional-britain-080019363.html This worries me - ‘’We're not proposing to make this compulsory, not least because I think the vast majority people are going to want to have it," Why is that? Because you’ll make life a misery for those who don’t have it? Hmm.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, GreatlyMcGreat said: I was wondering, if the test doesn’t actually test for the virus but for genetic material, how about the people who test positive and then test negative after getting over it? Exactly GreatlyMcGreat! (like your handle) Fair question - and my answer won't be much help, but - Cuz it's all a load of old bollocks mate - that's the truthful answer.... PCR test - not designed for this purpose anyway - the inventor never recommended it for this use The inventor conveniently died not very long ago. They 'over-magnify' the pcr test so it pretty much always shows positive - completely against the instructions of the inventor. The virus has not been isolated despite the occasional report that it has - therfore - it does not exist. The cabal/establishment are in a lot of shit for this. They're will literally be running scared and quite soon I feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Steve H said: it’s all bollox mate - the figures are meaningless. How can they even begin to ascertain the effectiveness of shots? Far too many variables and unforeseen ‘random’ elements. Stats are virtually meaningless and open to all kinds of manipulation. Neither can they possibly know unforeseen long-term side-effects. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, CitizenX said: Or, rather, it means they will have a fight on their hands from those who do not want the vaccine. My maxim is that if someone wishes to stab me against my will and inject harmful chemicals into me, then I will ensure that they are stabbed first by me. It won't ever get to a stage where I am pinned down while they force a vaccine in me. I am willing to kill as many as it takes to defend myself against such tyranny. Resist. Defend. Win. Out of likes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) More coverage from Ivor Cummins Edited November 11, 2020 by zarkov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, greatdayforfreedom said: LOL, do they really think that the royals will want this vaccine?? Not on your life, no, they will stick to their homeopathic remedies. None of the elite will have this vaccine. They seem to thrive on adrenochrome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesthepost Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: How on earth could someone not understand what you were saying?? Im glad you could see it Ziggy, felt a bit for a minute there. Edited November 11, 2020 by jonesthepost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) President Jair Bolsonaro drew criticism Tuesday for telling Brazilians not to deal with Covid-19 like "a country of fags," the far-right leader's latest controversial outburst on the pandemic. Bolsonaro, who has consistently downplayed the virus eve... https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/jair-bolsonaro-asks-brazilians-not-to-deal-with-covid-19-like-fags-914199.html Edited November 11, 2020 by SimonTV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Yeah, I think this is our best hope. A good politician is sensitive to his audience. I've read Klaus Schwab's work and he is so out of touch with the way normal people think it's laughable. I get the feeling he thinks people genuinely want a new normal because that's what he wants, and aren't just accepting it out of fear. If you have a good product you only need to display it to people and show how it works and it will speak for itself The fact the elites never do this and instead seek to do everything by subterfuge shows that they have a crappy product (with their vaccine they are already making excuses for it and saying it won't really stop the virus or the lockdowns!) They know that their 'great reset' is not a good deal for the people and will not serve the people but rather will serve the elites and that is why they have to con people into it So one thing they have done to try and create momentum for their social engineering is to tie social justice issues to other planks of their scheme So by convincing members of the public that the elites are working towards racial equality or the suppression of mysogeny they can then assure themselves of the support of those members of the public who now wrongly believe that the movement they are throwing themselves behind is working towards the same things as them when in fact it isn't. That's why i call it the 'fake-left' because it isn't working for the workers it is working for the elites This is how they sugar coat the poison. If you perceive the changes they are carrying out to be working towards a positive end, even if they aren't, then you will support them and think they are the good guys, and that's how they have hoodwinked MILLIONS of people Its the same with this covid thing. So the hoodwink here is that they have convinced millions that they are actually the good guys coming to give people a drug that will protect them. So those duped people will not only accept the nanotech and gene re-writing transfection tech into their bodies but they'll actually clap the people doing it! That's how they do it: perception deception Edited November 11, 2020 by Macnamara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz181 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 British government want people with negative Covid-19 results to wear wristbands. Medical tyranny’: Govt advisers’ idea to give corona-free Britons WRISTBANDS gets cold welcome on Twitter In Britain, the public could be offered the chance “to get back some freedoms if they test negative,” the BIT said. And to facilitate monitoring, people free from Covid-19 could be given paper wristbands “for easier recognition on whether they can enter venues.” Unsurprisingly some Britons found the idea of a government-issued accessory necessary to participate in social life unappealing. One commenter called the proposal “medical tyranny” and said that it resembled the Star of David patches [link to www.rt.com (secure) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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