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1 minute ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

So everytime you put a mask, you go into panick attack?

Not exactly, but I feel anxious, and can't breathe easily and my heart rate goes up. The only time I wear a mask now is when sanding, and only for a minute or so at a time.

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18 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o702

 

The illusion of evidence based medicine

 

Evidence based medicine has been corrupted by corporate interests, failed regulation, and commercialisation of academia, argue these authors

Indeed, no research is deemed trustable actually

 

she exposed this decades ago actually:

 

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.” Dr Angell

 


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8 minutes ago, k_j_evans said:

Not exactly, but I feel anxious, and can't breathe easily and my heart rate goes up. The only time I wear a mask now is when sanding, and only for a minute or so at a time.

Just so you know, if as soon as you have a mask on, you start to panic, of course your spo2 level drop with someone in your condition.

 

i still wont claim that if you were calm your spo2 level wouldnt bulge, but that would be my hypothesis. Its not the mask that reduce your spo2 level but your panic which then activate the sympathetic system which will increase your Blood pressure, your breathing and therefore your body need in oxygen increase decreasing then your spo2 levels.

hope its clear

 

edit: but im not sure at all here. Maybe even a basic chirurgical mask increase ever so slightly air inflow resistance and that alone could lower your spo2 level.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.” Dr Angell

 

pretty much all 'clinical research' is handed to  Drs known in the journal system who are well paid. They give the research the once over to dot the i's and cross the t's and sign it off.

there is no scrutiny of the data, they really dont bother to question it because they are scum.

 

trust in your own observations and experience

i.e i have not know anyone hospitalised with/of 'covid' . i know a number of people ticked off as covid deaths even though the family knows for a fact they tested negative right upto their peaceful death.

i do not know anyone displaying vaccine induced AIDS but i know lots of people with thrombosis, new cancers, heart murmurs and a few unexplained falls.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Trufflepig said:

Just noticed the first two must have died with covid or something else because they passed away before the jab rollout.

 

well lets not forget that the covid jab roll out was preceded by a flu vaccine roll out. How many symptoms then labelled 'covid' were in fact just vaccine damage from flu vaccines?

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2 hours ago, RobinJ said:

I am curious to know why this particularly affects those in the 50's age range. I dont think I have seen any info on why as opposed to just info on 'this is happening' per se. Have you seen any info re this? Id be interested to know the reasons.

 

years ago alex jones did a piece on retro-viruses in vaccines and i remember him saying that these would often kick in round about 50 years of age

 

So how many people dropping dead now in their 50's are in fact victims of previous, tainted vaccine roll outs?

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7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

well lets not forget that the covid jab roll out was preceded by a flu vaccine roll out. How many symptoms then labelled 'covid' were in fact just vaccine damage from flu vaccines?

 

Yes appreciate other poison that might be lurking around before the official roll out of the covid poison injection. 

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23 hours ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

Agreed. Masks do nothing.

only p100 mask can block virus.

 

but anyone who claims that chirurgical masks limits our oxygen input must be pointed out and laughed at. Otherwise we all look like complete morons.

Just keep wearing yours. Do you really think 'fact checking' actually changes reality? I don't give a fuck if you are walking like a zombie in a few years, nor do I care if your face breaks out in sores after wearing your nappy for hours on end. Believe what the 'fact checkers' tell you, it's YOUR life, not mine.

 

BTW You ARE a complete moron and you're right, I'm laughing at you.

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2 hours ago, DarianF said:

looking at the literature, they all seem to suggest even with patients with serious lung conditions that the mask doesnt affect at all the spo2 levels. But yeah, im not daft to trust those studies either

 

Remember - EVERYTHING you've been told is a lie. There are no exceptions. If it's something 'THEY' say, then it's a definite LIE.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, webtrekker said:

 

Remember - EVERYTHING you've been told is a lie. There are no exceptions. If it's something 'THEY' say, then it's a definite LIE.

 

 

 

 

Sorry @webtrekker I think you accidentally quoted me there. I think you meant to quote the dude I was responding to.

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5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

Epidemic: German and Austrian Mayors Under 60 Are 'Suddenly and Unexpectedly' Dropping Dead

Amy Mek
April 6, 2022
 

The “Freie Bremer” channel on Telegram compiled a list of several such incidents, at least 15 known deaths in Germany and Austria in the period mentioned. However, the number of unreported cases could be higher.

December. 12. 2020 41-year-old CSU Mayor Dirk Rosenbauer in Michelau, Germany. He leaves behind a wife and two children.

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In September 2020, German Mayor Heinrich Suess died unexpectedly at the age of only 56

 

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In June 2020, the 50-year-old German Mayor of Lenggries, Markus Landthaler, died unexpectedly.

 

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On September 15, 2021, the 47-year-old German Mayor of Limbach-Oberfrohna Jesko Vogel died. He leaves behind a wife and two daughters. From 1991 to 2014, he was a player and captain of the first handball team at BSV Limbach.

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October 18, 2021, 57-year-old Deputy Mayor of Kindberg, Peter Sattler, died suddenly on a hike.

 

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On October 21, 2021, the 60-year-old Mayor Christian Ruh of Bodolz on Lake Constance died unexpectedly.

 

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On Saturday, October 24, 2021, Burscheid’s Mayor Stefan Caplan died unexpectedly. He was only 56 years old.

 

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October 28, 2021, 59-year-old German Mayor Wolfgang Eckl “unexpectedly” died.

 

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November 27, 2021, Mayor Jochim Ruppert died unexpectedly on Friday evening at the age of 59.

 

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December 23, 2021, 54-year-old Schiltberg Mayor Fabian Streit died unexpectedly.

 

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March 5, 2022 Mauerkirchen Mayor Horst Gerner died unexpectedly at the age of 57

 

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On March 23, 2022, Mayor Kristian W. Tangermann died unexpectedly. The Mayor of the municipality of Lilienthal (Osterholz district) was only 45 years old.

 

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On March 26, 2022, Christian Maurer, a 38-year-old mayor in Upper Austria, died. He collapsed on March 21 during a municipal council meeting and died days later in the hospital. Doctors could not repair Maurer’s cerebral hemorrhage. The local politician leaves behind his wife and their six-week-old son.

 

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On March 29, 2022, The incumbent Mayor of Waldshut-Tiengen, Joachim Baumert, died unexpectedly over the weekend at the age of 57. 

 

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On March 31, The third mayor of Coburg, Thomas Nowak, died suddenly and unexpectedly at the age of 53.

 

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On April 1, 2022, the First Mayor of Pfaffenhausen and trained police officer Franz Renftle died at the age of 54.

 

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When will authorities investigate these cases more closely? 

https://rairfoundation.com/epidemic-german-and-austrian-mayors-under-60-aresuddenly-and-unexpectedly-dropping-dead/

 

Thats actually mind blowing; thanks for the info Mac.

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31 minutes ago, Mikheil said:

Just keep wearing yours. Do you really think 'fact checking' actually changes reality? I don't give a fuck if you are walking like a zombie in a few years, nor do I care if your face breaks out in sores after wearing your nappy for hours on end. Believe what the 'fact checkers' tell you, it's YOUR life, not mine.

 

BTW You ARE a complete moron and you're right, I'm laughing at you.

 

Did you even read their posts properly before you started spewing your abuse?

Man, what happened to decency?

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1 minute ago, jedidiah said:

 

Did you even read their posts properly before you started spewing your abuse?

Man, what happened to decency?

 

I don't give a shit if anyone wears a mask or takes a poison jab and fifty boosters, as long as they don't force it on me.

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Just now, DarianF said:

 

I don't give a shit if anyone wears a mask or takes a poison jab and fifty boosters, as long as they don't force it on me.

 

Exactly, freedom of choice; and totally no need for abuse; we ‘peasants’ get enough of that in one way or another from the cult things.

Brotherhood.

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Just now, jedidiah said:

 

Exactly, freedom of choice; and totally no need for abuse; we ‘peasants’ get enough of that in one way or another from the cult things.

Brotherhood.

 

Fair point.

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7 hours ago, Layton James said:

 

I was a medic/military, during my many years service I worked in the wards, theatre and post op treatments, then we practiced what was known as the the"Aaseptic Technique" this was widely used across the hospital, masks and hair nets were normally worn during all theatre operations to prevent any foreign bodies form entering open wounds, often large ones, these were worn until they became wetted out on the inside, this happens at different rates with every individual, but eventually the moistire from your breath wets the material from the inside making the masks less effective, once blocked from a direct pathway the breath then pours out at the edges more as time goes on, thus not filtering the air as it would when freshly fitted, about half an hour for myself.

 

You could tell when the mask had reached this point, when the mask began to be drawn towards the face on inhailation, sort of like placing a plastic bag over the mouth and nose as you breathed inwards, it would be drawn towards the face and popped back out again as you breathed out, this is when they become to feel uncomfortable to the wearer and was best to change them so breathing was easier.

 

We also wore them during wound dressing at the post op care level, sometimes wounds were left open to irrigate or drain, especially where burns were found,

 

We also did trials where we worn no masks post op treatments and the post op infections remained the same as before, in such roles we were also tested regulary.

 

If we were found to be infected we would not be allowed to work in any sensitive areas and told to stay off work if very ill and snotty until another test showed the all clear, they were also loking for bacterial entities which were commonly found inside masks that were tested.

 

The whole paradigm has changed and certain techniques are no longer practiced like we were trained to use back in the early eighties, and why so many new bugs are being found that get through what were really good practices, using the propper Aseptic Techniques.

My experience with masks is from boatyards, so totally different vocation. Still under different pressures I fully agree that that disposable masks have a very limited use time depending onje individual. I appreciate that in my job the masks are really heavily battered by dust etc. Even with full face expensive 3m masks filtered right up, there would be some dust inside when removed. Worked as a technician for DuPont as well, and learned more about what masks don’t stop than what they do

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1 minute ago, webtrekker said:

 

I've added a syringe for more realism! 🤣 ...

 

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LOL I was literally just about to reply again asking if you could add a syringe. We were on the same wavelength, it seems ;-) Great work buddy.

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

LOL I was literally just about to reply again asking if you could add a syringe. We were on the same wavelength, it seems ;-) Great work buddy.

 

Haha! Great minds think alike, and all that!

 

I love having fun with Photoshop but at the end of the day this is serious stuff. I just hope these memes stir up a reaction in some of the sheep.

 

 

 

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Just now, webtrekker said:

 

Haha! Great minds think alike, and all that!

 

I love having fun with Photoshop but at the end of the day this is serious stuff. I just hope these memes stir up a reaction in some of the sheep.

 

 

 

 

Don't underestimate the power of memes, even in serious matters. 👍

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