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2 hours ago, alexa said:

I feel sick ( someone get me a bucket)

 

The husband and wife behind covid vaccine that could change the worl

Physicians Ugur Sahin (right) and Oezlem Tuereci (left), who bonded over their love of medical research, are the married couple behind the Covid-19 vaccine that could change the world. Mr Sahin came from humble roots to build two billion-dollar companies but still rides to work on his mountain bike. Now the 'modest' 55-year-old physician turned chief executive of a German biotech firm and his wife Oezlem Tuereci, 53, a fellow board member of BioNTech, are being hailed as the 'dream team' behind the world's hopes for a vaccine. Boris Johnson promised the UK will be at the 'front of the pack' for the new coronavirus vaccine after the massive breakthrough.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8930359/The-husband-wife-covid-vaccine-change-

worl.html

 

Yes, there are niggles... but this really is a historic day: HUGH PENNINGTON argues the discovery of a possible Covid-19 vaccine is as significant as the development of the atomic bomb

 

Who will get the Covid vaccine first, how many doses has Britain bought and when will it be rolled out? Everything you need to know about Pfizer's breakthrough jab

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8929665/Everything-need-know-Pfizers-Covid-vaccine-breakthrough.html

 

We must not slacken': Boris Johnson warns Britons to stick to the rules to get through second wave as he hails Covid vaccine breakthrough that could 'get life back to normal by Spring' - and reveals UK has ordered enough for a THIRD of population 

Just surprised that they aren't a couple of trannsexuals. That would teach the bigots a thing or two.

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7 minutes ago, Mr H said:

IF the vaccine is so safe, why the no liability clause?

 

I hate speaking down on my fellow brothers and sisters, but people really are thick as pig shit!

As you say, because people are thick. Their brains have been conditioned to not think about anything.

 

The potential is there but the desire has been killed by entertainment and comfort.

 

They have been made thick.

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Pfizer has announced a breakthrough RNA vaccine

 

Two turkish immigrants to Europe have announced that they have created a new EXPERIMENTAL RNA vaccine which they claim is successful in treating sars cov-2. Could they be DONMEH (sabbatean crypto-jews)? More research is needed into that.

 

RNA vaccines use a process called TRANSFECTION which is the one used to genetically modify organisms. Experiments were carried out using this method for vaccines in the past but they were discontinued when the test animals died. The research was then picked up again in recent years by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation who then pumped money into that area of study.

 

Here are the couple:

 

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Özlem Türeci (left) and Prof Uğur Şahin, the couple behind the new vaccine

The Man Betting $1 Billion That Pfizer Can Deliver A Vaccine By This Fall

The inside story behind the pandemic, the CEO and a promising, unproven treatment

Pfizer’s most prominent effort is its work with Mainz, Germany–based BioNTech, an innovative $120 million (2019 sales) outfit that is mostly known for making cancer medications. The resulting experimental Covid-19 vaccine works with messenger RNA, a bleeding-edge technology that has never resulted in a successful treatment. Pfizer is hoping to get emergency-use authorization from the U.S. government for the vaccine by October. Its unique strategy is to rapidly pit four different mRNA vaccine candidates against one another and double down on the most likely winner. 

 

In January, Uğur Şahin, the brilliant immunologist who founded BioNTech, read an article about Covid-19 in The Lancet. Şahin built BioNTech to hack human cells to go after diseases, particularly cancer, and he thought similar tech might work against the coronavirus. Soon after, Şahin spoke to Thomas Strüngmann, the German pharma billionaire who for years has backed Şahin and his wife, immunologist Özlem Türeci, in their ventures. “He said, ‘This is a big disaster.’ He said the schools will be closed, that this will be a pandemic,” Strüngmann says, referring to Şahin. “He switched most of his team to the vaccine.” 

In February, Şahin (who is also now a billionaire, as BioNTech’s stock has soared) called up Kathrin Jansen, who heads vaccine research and development for Pfizer. Şahin told Jansen BioNTech had come up with vaccine candidates for Covid-19 and asked if Pfizer would be interested in working with him. “Uğur, you are asking?” Jansen replied. “Of course we are interested.” 

Over the last few years, scientists have become intrigued by the idea of using messenger RNA, the genetic molecule that gives cells protein-making instructions, to develop medicines for cancer, heart disease and even infectious viruses by transforming human cells into drug factories. Because SARS-CoV-2, as the coronavirus is formally known, is an RNA virus, researchers like Şahin focused on the idea of giving mRNA the cellular machinery to make proteins that would create virus-protecting antibodies. 

An mRNA vaccine has huge advantages over a traditional one. Because it can be made directly from the genetic code of the virus, it can be invented and entered into clinical trials in a matter of weeks, rather than months or years. But there’s a big downside: No one has ever successfully made one. 

BioNTech is not alone in pursuing an mRNA vaccine. Moderna Therapeutics, a biotech in Cambridge, Massachusetts, also got going in January and has launched a big human trial for its mRNA vaccine, backed by $483 million from the federal government. Moderna is likewise aiming to produce millions of doses per month by the end of the year. 

https://forbes.kz/process/medicine/the_man_betting_1_billion_that_pfizer_can_deliver_a_vaccine_by_this_fall/

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Our Unalienable Rights.

Why do they not teach these at school...

for times like these...

 

surely ,the most critical failure of the people is their failure to ensure the teaching & common knowledge of their Unalienable Rights. If you do not know your rights, you effectively have none. By the path of ignorance ,whether by Apathy or Deception the people arrive in a state of exploitation ,oppression & tyranny.123929612_10216994009673442_7977410837745873497_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=_nniuxkzes0AX82xG4O&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr1-1.fna&oh=dbdf9a83ded8d7add91869120ac58736&oe=5FCFBEBD

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3 minutes ago, MR-E said:

Our Unalienable Rights.

Why do they not teach these at school...

for times like these...

 

surely ,the most critical failure of the people is their failure to ensure the teaching & common knowledge of their Unalienable Rights. If you do not know your rights, you effectively have none. By the path of ignorance ,whether by Apathy or Deception the people arrive in a state of exploitation ,oppression & tyranny.123929612_10216994009673442_7977410837745873497_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=_nniuxkzes0AX82xG4O&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr1-1.fna&oh=dbdf9a83ded8d7add91869120ac58736&oe=5FCFBEBD

 

I had an argument the other day with a brainwashed COVID freak, who was lecturing me how people who go on about individual liberty and rights are a danger to public health. I said what about human rights, do you care about human rights? He said of course, we need to fight for human rights. I said do you mean "unalienable" rights? He had no idea what I was talking about. I said go and look up the word "unalienable" or "inalienable" in the dictionary and get back to me. It's sad that most people have no idea about their fundamental rights.

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54 minutes ago, MR-E said:

Our Unalienable Rights.

Why do they not teach these at school...

for times like these...

 

surely ,the most critical failure of the people is their failure to ensure the teaching & common knowledge of their Unalienable Rights. If you do not know your rights, you effectively have none. By the path of ignorance ,whether by Apathy or Deception the people arrive in a state of exploitation ,oppression & tyranny.123929612_10216994009673442_7977410837745873497_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=_nniuxkzes0AX82xG4O&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr1-1.fna&oh=dbdf9a83ded8d7add91869120ac58736&oe=5FCFBEBD

 

I was just thinking aout finding a similar type of list and presto here it is - thanks.

 

Uk column has started a series of talks dsicussing the common law

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/dissidents-guide-constitution-episode-2-common-law

 

Its an interesting subject where Natural Law is identified and acknowledged to some extent in common law.

Common Law appears to be Law of the land whereas Statute Law is apparantly Law of the sea. (admiralty, maritime etc)

 

Law society solicitors/lawyers state that statutes take precedence, but in a common law court with a jury statutes can be over-ruled by a common law jury.  jury nullification!

 

edit: To me it seems that the statute law system are the laws of invaders !

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

Wow so Julia on talk talk this morning promoting the vaccine propaganda. Have to wave goodbye to ol Julia!!!!

 

Shame as they've given a platform to so many good speakers like Ivor Cummins and Mike Yeadon.

 

Would fit the idea that they're controlled opposition. I don't thing the aforementioned guys are very on board with the vaccine agenda so let's see if they mysteriously stop getting invited on once the programme is rolled out

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And the massive problem in all of this talk of un/inalienable rights is this....how do you exercise those rights in a tyranny ?....where every aspect of the judiciary is controlled .....where the use of force is totally monopolised by the state....where the population is totally disarmed and the right to self defence is null and void....to exercise the rights you first have to remove the tyranny....i fear that the judicial process is so corrupted as to be unfit for purpose and the extra judicial process will be crushed by whatever means ''they'' deem suitable.....And if anyone can show me any examples of a tyranny brought ot its knees by any form of judicial process i'd be interested in seeing it....i cant think of it ever having happened...but i do stand to be corrected.....i think most people are aware of what needs to happen....its just waiting for the spark to set it off but given that 9 months in there hasn't been anything resembling direct action i fear we are well and truly up a certain creek minus paddles and canoes

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5 minutes ago, magu said:

 but given that 9 months in there hasn't been anything resembling direct action i fear we are well and truly up a certain creek minus paddles and canoes

The reason why there has been no direct action is because of the continual furlough scheme. People tend to get brave and take direct action when they have nothing to lose. Those sitting in Muswell hill drinking takeaway frappacinos on zoom all day - couldn't give a hoot.

 

The furlough scheme was extended to March on purpose, because by then the vaccine will have been rolled out and things will start to go to the new normal which most have already accepted (tell em enough times and it sticks like any other form of brain washing).

 

This is why there hasn't been massive direct action because only a few are bothered about it.

 

The only way this will change is if unbelievable tyranny is witnessed by the public or if more people lose their jobs.

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Additionally. A lot of people alive in this country today have never experienced a serious or real threat to their liberty - it's one for the movies. They don't seriously believe it's a reality because it's not in their experience. That's why the "they are conspiracy theorists" gets swallowed so easily - because the truth is unfathomable. Anyone with experience of real tyranny knows the score - that's why you had all those venezuelans and cubans voting for Trump

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Listening to this scientist chap on Jeremy Vine BBC Radio 2, spouting complete BS.

 

"Different demographics need different vaccines", "not all vaccines will suit all bodies".. then goes on to say it's the first RNA vaccine ever. Then I'm thinking about the immunity of liability clauses,,

 

What could possibly go wrong ...   Don't worry y'all its gonna be reet.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, magu said:

And the massive problem in all of this talk of un/inalienable rights is this....how do you exercise those rights in a tyranny ?....where every aspect of the judiciary is controlled .....where the use of force is totally monopolised by the state....where the population is totally disarmed and the right to self defence is null and void....to exercise the rights you first have to remove the tyranny....i fear that the judicial process is so corrupted as to be unfit for purpose and the extra judicial process will be crushed by whatever means ''they'' deem suitable.....And if anyone can show me any examples of a tyranny brought ot its knees by any form of judicial process i'd be interested in seeing it....i cant think of it ever having happened...but i do stand to be corrected.....i think most people are aware of what needs to happen....its just waiting for the spark to set it off but given that 9 months in there hasn't been anything resembling direct action i fear we are well and truly up a certain creek minus paddles and canoes

 

Yeah... I've been feeling quite down the last couple of days. With this latest vaccine news and the fanfare it's been getting it feels like we're moving too quickly toward a very dark time in history to fully prevent it happening.

 

Like all tyrannies it will eventually fail and the next generation will learn its lessons, we'll wonder how people were so brainwashed. But ourselves and maybe our children will have to pay for it with our lives and livelihoods

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22 minutes ago, magu said:

..i think most people are aware of what needs to happen....its just waiting for the spark to set it off but given that 9 months in there hasn't been anything resembling direct action i fear we are well and truly up a certain creek minus paddles and canoes

Hang on in there bud.....the sparks are slowly catching light....

Some  been waiting years not months for this awakening ...these times are a changing im smelling smoke in the air...

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4 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Check out the language used here in this news item from the dailyfail, it describes who WILL be getting the vaccine first, not who is OFFERED the vaccine first.  (starting with the nhs workers and the over 80's)

(apart from the table saying the word 'could' get the vaccine first) the whole news item reads as if it's a done-deal?
here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8932615/Who-Covid-vaccine-Matt-Hancock-tells-NHS-prepare-jabs-start-December.html?ito=push-notification&ci=49674&si=19098210

 

Looking specifically at the last table shown here on the post, regarding 'how the breakthrough vaccine works'  isn't it very interesting how they take the 'part of the virus's genetic code' when the so-called virus has never been isolated in a human?  Hmmmm.... very interesting.
Basically my opinion is, you get the vaccine - you get 5g fucking with your body, it's a little signpost for 5g signals to "say here I am - fuck me over!"

 

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Best comment under the story?

Try this one  and weep.

 

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5 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Best comment under the story?

Try this one  and weep.

 

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Yeah you've said it before Ziggy but if the shit really hits the fan the one sick pleasure from all this will be the look of horror on these cunts faces when the boot is pressing down and they finally realise it's all been one big lie

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QUOTED FROM THE BOOK "THE SECRET COVENANT":
"We will keep their lives short and their minds short while pretending to do the opposite. We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so that they never see what is happening. We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water as well as in the air. They will be covered in poisons wherever they return. The soft metals will make them lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many funds, and yet we will give them more poison. The chemical poisons will be absorbed through the skin of idiots who believe that certain hygiene and beauty products presented by great actors and singers, will bring them eternal youth on face and body, and through their thirsty and hungry mouths, we will destroy their minds and organ systems. internal reproduction. However, their children will be born as disabled and deformed and we will hide this information.

 

The poisons will be hidden in everything around them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear. We have to be ingenious in distributing the poisons because they can see far. We'll teach them that poisons are good - with funny pictures and musical tones on TV. Those looking for them will be helpful. We'll enroll them to push our poisons. They will see that our products are used in film and they will get used to them and will never know their true effect. When they give birth, we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them that we are helping them! We will start earlier, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things. When their teeth break, we will fill them with metals that will kill their minds and steal their future. When their ability to learn has been affected, we have created drugs that will make them sicker and cause them other illnesses, for which we will create even more drugs. We will make them docile and weak before us, by our power. They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.
 
We will focus on money and material goods so that they never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and video games, so that they are never one with the unity of all. Their minds will belong to us, and they will do as we say. If they refuse, we will find ways to implement technology that alters the mind in their lives. We will use fear as our weapon. We will establish their governments and we will establish opposition within them. We will own both sides. We will always hide our goal, but we will continue our plan. They will do the work for us, and we will prosper from their toil. Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure (because it is). We will make them kill each other when they oppose us. We will keep them separate from unity through dogma and religion. We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how. We will guide them kindly and let them believe that they are guiding themselves. We will instigate animosity among them through our factions. When a light shines among them, we will extinguish it by mockery or death, which suits us best. We will make them tear their hearts apart and kill their own children. We will accomplish this using hatred as our ally, anger as our friend. Hatred will completely blind them and they will never see that in their conflicts we will be their leaders. They will be busy killing each other. They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors, as long as we see that they oppose us.

 

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us. We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths. We will repeat this until our ultimate goal is achieved. We will continue to make them live in fear and anger, we will give them images and sounds. We will use all the tools we have to achieve this. The tools will be provided by their work. We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors. We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. That he must never know! They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always believe that they are not equal. Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal. We will take over their lands, resources and wealth to exercise control over them. We will trick them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they have. We will set up a money system that will shut them down forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

 

When we ban them together, we will accuse them of murder and present a different story to the world because we will own all the media. We will use the media to control the flow of information and their feelings in our favor. When they rise up against us, we will crush them like insects, because they are less than that. They will be helpless to do anything because they will have no weapons. We will recruit some of them to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life that they will never have because they are not ours. Recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated into believing false rituals of passage to higher realms. The members of these groups will think they are one with us, but they will never know the truth. They must never learn this truth because they will turn against us. For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but they will never become immortal and join us, they will never receive the light and they will not travel among the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, because killing them will prevent them from passing into the realm of enlightenment. He'll never find out. The truth will be hidden from them, so close! Oh, yes, the illusion of freedom will be so great, it will be that they will never know that they are our slaves. "
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