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The land of common sense seems to be thriving while Britain is counting the cost of harsh lockdown restriction

 

Lock up everyone, keep children out of school, suspend civil liberties, send police after people walking their dogs – and call this “caution”? Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s state epidemiologist, never spoke about a Swedish “experiment”. He said all along he could not recommend a public health intervention that had never been proven.

 

Tegnell also made another point: that he didn’t claim to be right. It would take years, he’d argue, to see who had jumped the right way. His calculation was that, on a whole-society basis, the collateral damage of lockdowns would outweigh what good they do. But you’d only know if this was so after a few years. You’d have to look at cancer diagnosis, hospital waiting lists, educational damage and, yes, count the Covid dead. Almost two years on, we can look at the early indications.

 

The problem with lockdowns is that no one looks at whole-society pictures. Professor Neil Ferguson’s team from Imperial College London admitted this, once, as a breezy aside. “We do not consider the wider social and economic costs of suppression,” they wrote in a supposed assessment of lockdown, “which will be high.” But just how high? And were they a price worth paying?

 

As Sweden abolishes all domestic Covid restrictions, it emerges with one of Europe’s lower Covid death tolls: the rate is 1,614 per million people, just over half the amount of Britain (2,335). Given that our death tolls were comparable at first (both among the worst anywhere), it’s hard to argue that there’s some demographic force which meant Covid was never going to spread in Sweden. 

 

The cost of the various Covid measures is best summed up by the debt mountain: an extra £8,400 per head in Britain, and £3,000 in Sweden.

 

Swedish schools kept going throughout, with no face masks. Sixth-formers and undergraduates switched to home learning, but the rest of Swedish children went to school as normal. That’s not to say there weren’t absences as the virus spread: it was common to see a third, at times even half of the class absent due to sniffles or suspected Covid. But there were no full-scale closures and, aside from some suspicions about minor grade inflation (the average maths grade sneaked up to 10.1, from 9.3), there is no talk in Sweden about educational devastation.

 

In Britain, there is calamity and cover-up. By doling out more A grades than ever before – and telling universities to make more space – young people could be shovelled through the system with lost ground never recognised or quite made up.

 

But no country, anywhere, has had a waiting list grow as big as Britain’s: from 4.4 million pre-pandemic, it will keep getting worse for two years and peak at about 9.2 million, according to NHS modelling – that’s equivalent to one in five adults.

 

A top-down health service is more easily disrupted if it’s ordered to transform into a Covid service (and people are told to “protect the NHS” by not using it). Sweden’s waiting lists, 130,000 pre-pandemic, hit 170,000 last October. Even adjusting for population, it’s nowhere near the size of Britain’s problem.

 

Sweden will not declare victory. No one was properly prepared for Covid, and The country’s failure to protect care home residents is still seen as a national scandal. Sweden also took a bigger hit than its neighbours: Denmark, which did lock down, has more to shout about when it comes to combining a lower Covid hit with minimal economic disruption.

 

But, as Tegnell would say, it’s still too early to say – with any finality – who got it right and who didn’t.

 

 

By Fraser Nelson

13 February 2022

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/13/sweden-right-covid-along/

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21 minutes ago, Tunique said:

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What a crackin painting 😂Incidentally the Scream painting is one of my favourites. I just had to lol at the truckers walking behind him and the convoy out in the distance, what a prize twat he is. 😂

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6 hours ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

I'm more and more afraid that the "rugpull" thoery never happens.

 

I mean, the 9/11 couldnt be more obviously a controlled demolition, yet they never admitted it.

 

 

Do they ever admit anything?

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11 hours ago, Morpheus said:

A few things about a few people. I'm starting to not trust many if anyone in this movement. We need a minimum standard of these people and if they're not prepared to talk about certain topics then they need to be treated with suspicion. 

i have taken a position that most renegade themes i.e rufution of virus theory is wasting time trying to debate or turn virology to change

 

the attitude of the established system is to demand an alternative model they will accept and ignore any point by point criticism. they are secure in money and  high society support.

 

this is part of the grand plan of the changing of ages

 

the architects are provoking a split. a complete separation of society , its micro societies and miniscule cultural groups

 

the dominant system i.e virology has closed the door on change, on debate , it is resolute that itself is all it will accept 

 

pretty soon the alternative ideas will stop debate, stop trying to convince and will draw their own line in the sand.

 

will the freethinkers become solidified ? 

 

will the renegades settle for a single philosophy and march under one flag. 

 

imo thats part of the grand plan to have a new world under a single banner and it doesnt matter to tue sages what the flag is

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, skitzorat said:

February 13, 2022 

St Cindy gets flustered when asked questions about the protest. Unfortunately, her horse mouth is designed for talking, and won't stop running.

The protest is in it's second week, of protesters occupying parliament. As per usual, heavy handed government response has been observed. Surprisingly, the media is asking real questions.

 

 

He's the worst, just a pure pos.

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3 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

After all that the deranged Karen pulls the flags off the protestors car and berats the protestors with them, saying get the fuck out. Even the pope would have given her slap. No wonder the country is in such a mess.

Funniest bit for me, is where she says 'get a job', that lady is a hooker with an only fans page, her nude photos and videos are all over the gaff. The fucking dibble let her off too, so thay have once again showed they hate the people. Fuck them.

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3 hours ago, HeartSpirit said:


I have seen proof that satisfies me, I just can’t be bothered to find it again for you! And yes I saw some of the people complaining, but they look like trolls and jealous people to me, along with those who half listen to information and then blame others because they didn’t read or listen to it properly. 

 

You have not provided any proof for your assertions either. 

 

 

 

Just twitched my Igan nerve here, the proof that satisfies me is that he is in mexico now.

 

Wasn't he talking about standing and fighting before? Getting dangerously close to recommending violence? Yes, I watched him say it. 

 

The weak argument he put out to excuse his retreat about being a frail old man more useful to the movement while dodging the powers that be and continuing the message doesn't counterbalance the obvious fact that when things start to get hot he looks right into finding the fire exit. That's how I see it.

 

In other words, I don't respect anyone who doesn't stand to their convictions or who suggest a dangerous way of behaving to others, when they have no real will or desire to stand to that advice themselves. 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, - TZC - said:

 

Just twitched my Igan nerve here, the proof that satisfies me is that he is in mexico now.

 

Wasn't he talking about standing and fighting before? Getting dangerously close to recommending violence? Yes, I watched him say it. 

 

The weak argument he put out to excuse his retreat about being a frail old man more useful to the movement while dodging the powers that be and continuing the message doesn't counterbalance the obvious fact that when things start to get hot he looks right into finding the fire exit. That's how I see it.

 

In other words, I don't respect anyone who doesn't stand to their convictions or who suggest a dangerous way of behaving to others, when they have no real will or desire to stand to that advice themselves. 

 

 

 

 

And then there's the very suspect Zen Gardner incident as well.....

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Governments don't have a prerequisite for accountability. They never have predefined definitions for success and failure and consequences thereof.

 

Say a Government decides to do something. They say what it is they intent to do and why. But here's the thing, there is no prerequisite for accountability regarding success and failure, there are never any definitions for what will constitute a success or failure.

 

Such as, if they don't manage to succeed in their plans to this degree, within this amount of time or within this amount of money etc, they will then be considered a failure.

 

They therefore are free to interpret, argue and excuse their works afterwards, whilst never admitting failure and always self congratulating their own self-defined successes.

 

If clear and concise rules where applied to our Governments to pre-define the margins for success and failure with again pre-defined consequences for such failures, we could then hold them to account more than the irresponsible freedom they assume from voters by being elected officials, as if most people voted for them anyway and not just the majority of the minority that actually did vote.

 

Whoever gets the most votes wins, though they don't care how many people actually vote or more importantly don't vote. They voted for us, so whatever we do is on their heads.

 

Surely if severe consequences where predefined for Government failure, they'd be far less sanctimonious, ambitious and irresponsible with the livelihoods of entire nations.

 

Why is it that throughout history the biggest cunts, the ones that do the most damage to the most people are always the rich and powerful elites?

 

There must be consequences and they must fear them!

 

'Force, as necessary'.

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4 hours ago, Morpheus said:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jeff berwick scam&ko=-1&ia=web

 

Here you go, it doesn't take much since you can't be bothered, here's your head start. I also gave you two points of reference, one with a video of said evidence and a further breakdown from Eve who's opinion I highly respect. If you chose not to look at them, that doesn't constitute as me not providing anything. 

 

 

Is Jeff Berwick 'Dollar Vigilante' ?

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Canadas warmonger Trudeau has invoked the War Measures Act...now know as the Emergencies Act. 

 

Says he knows people are upset with covid rules!!! Understatement of the year.

 

Giving 120 mil plus another 5 mil to Ukraine...while Canada is bankrupt.

 

They are changing rules to access peoples bank accounts. All crowd funding platforms being monitored and have to sign to FINTRAC.

 

Protests are now illegal blockades and occupations!!!

 

Authorizing banks to seize accounts that donate to protests.

 

 

 

Absolute nutter on the loose.

 

https://www.cpac.ca/episode?id=5e1dee4a-a576-48f9-85b8-c2f620ddff61

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4 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Just a play on the maniac Canadian PM's surname....

 

Trudeau.

 

True D'oh.

 

 

 

haha oh i see ... sorry.  Yea he is a prick. The woman in video Chrystia Freland  (the nodding dog in vid) is as vile as he is.

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6 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Gloves are off now. This rat Trudeau has turned Canada into a police state. He should be hanged.

 

Agreed he is a full on member of the Anal Schwab Society. (ASS) They all need the noose...and a few more.

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