JJ73 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: One last contact... the Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS) for the Royal Berkshire Hospital, where your mum is, and you can phone out of hours, anytime tonight: 0118 322 5111 https://www.royalberkshire.nhs.uk/about-us/contact-us/ Thank you Rob. I appreciate it. Edited January 13 by JJ73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 19 minutes ago, JJ73 said: Before she went in I would have said YES but hearing her bigging up the jabs today, less than 24 hours after she went in, I can't say. I think they are definitely getting to her because of her use of the word 'stupid' to denote my wish to remain unvaccinated when up until yesterday she too had not been jabbed. Obviously you know your mother better than any of us. So this is just a suggestion. It is usually helpful to break problems down into different steps. i.e., 1. Get her out of the hospital. 2. Disabuse her of the clot shot etc. So I don't think it is worthwhile getting into a debate over the jab while she is in hospital still. Particularly as anything you say is going to be undermined by hospital staff while you're not around. Perhaps you can say that the important thing is to get her out of hospital and then you and her can deal with the clot shot. She can always return if she wants to take etc. But she shouldn't wait 28 days in the hospital. She shouldn't be under any stress so perhaps it would be better if you dealt with the hospital on her behalf. If she gives you a lasting power of attorney then you can deal with getting her out of the hospital etc. If she brings up the clot shot you can brush it off. It's not due for 28 days and she can always come back for it. But in the meantime we need to deal with ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tunique said: Hulk Hogan has spoken https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca .com/en/more-sports/2022/01/13/61e03ee046163f68818b45d5.html I wonder how many days till he will be saying in ICU "I wish I could take the elixir" and the nurse "I'm sorry it's too late". Edited January 13 by Human10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Roberts and Kavanaugh Side with Lefties, Allow Healthcare Worker Vax Mandate to Stand (thegatewaypundit.com) “After all, ensuring that providers take steps to avoid transmitting a dangerous virus to their patients is consistent with the fundamental principle of the medical profession: first, do no harm,” the majority opinion read. But do no harm is not the same as prevent harm at any cost. Though the average judge isn't smart enough to figure that one out. Edited January 13 by SoundOfSilence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said: Researchers at Cardiff University were surprised to find that both men and women were judged to look better with a face covering obscuring the lower half of their faces. Really? Apparently the model's name is Maria Shatalova. Never heard of her. They probably conducted this study on this horse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoundOfSilence Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, Human10 said: They probably conducted this study on this horse. In mandating the burka perhaps Islam was really on to something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Thoth Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said: Researchers at Cardiff University were surprised to find that both men and women were judged to look better with a face covering obscuring the lower half of their faces. Really? Apparently the model's name is Maria Shatalova. Never heard of her. SHAT ALL OVER ... they are pretty creative with these names. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: In mandating the burka perhaps Islam was really on to something. I prefer old school. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, JJ73 said: Thank you. The problem is, is that in just the 24 hours since she has been admitted she has completely changed her views about the jabs which she has always been adamant she wouldn't have. When I spoke with her today she was talking about setting a petition up when she comes home to honour the doctors and nurses on the front line treating Covid. They have clearly got to her, in her weakened state. She is in her own room rather than being in a ward which I also don't like. The John O'Looney story shows that it is possible to get out of hospital. Sadly it will likely be costly given the need for a solicitor and medical Doctor who would likely need to take over her care. Unfortunately though, you may have no options if mum really has changed her tune. I don't know if John O'Looney would respond given his own recent issues but it might be worth reaching out to him as he may be able to give some pointers? I think the first thing is to find a legal way of visiting mum, that way you can figure out if mum wants to stay there or not. I really feel for you man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 (edited) On 1/12/2022 at 10:11 PM, karmaxxxx said: Liverpool echo.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/what-boris-Johnsons-living-covid-22700294 The Government is said to be drawing up plans for how we "live with covid" long-term without the need for any new restrictions. Boris Johnson is expected to reveal the plan for how the UK can live with the virus in the future, setting out what restrictions we will see in the months ahead. The Prime Minister said: "It is pointless keeping giving more and more vaccines to people who are not going to get very ill. We should just let them get ill and deal with that." full article on link above, so it maybe its back tracking time now or not cos they change like the wind. The PTB have been forced to wind their necks in, but they will still keep any little bit of silliness going for as long as possible. News just out that Mark Drakeford is, probably starting this weekend, going to ease restrictions in Wales. Apparently, it 'now' seems that the Omicorn peak may have occurred at the beginning of January (yeah right). It had to happen, with England not following suit on Boxing Day. The Sturgeon will have no choice, but to also follow suit. She will hate it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59984873 'Covid in Wales: Mark Drakeford to ease Wales' restrictions.' 18 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: Respect! No kidding. Whatever happens, I hope that no one on planet Earth really believed Novak's story, after they first heard it. Australian Open representative - 'There will be medical exemptions, for those who have recently tested positive.' Novak Djokovic - 'I just tested positive. What a stroke of good luck!' 14 hours ago, Orange Alert said: What is being reported here and there and in the MSM about an outbreak in Xi'an with a hard lockdown being implemented by the Chinese authorities, the fogging machines are back in the streets for the cameras and supposedly scenes of people wearing white coveralls being transported away in coaches to isolation facilities and mass open air swab testings for the CV-19. All this to contain an outbreak and protect the coming Winter Olympics in a month's time. A re-run of Wuhan 2019/20 with the spread blamed on not shutting down international flights, until it was too late? This time the cover story being the Olympics in China, as people return to their home countries. A new bad boy variant for another crushing economic lockdown or to explain away the V deaths? https://www.thesun.ie/news/8124777/china-brutal-zero-covid-lockdown-driving-jailed/ Maybe they are trying to avoid a repeat performance of the World Military Games, which were held in China in October 2019. As in making it harder for foreign 'actors' to do anything naughty. 11 hours ago, bamboozooka said: van tam pon quitting. the cards are starting to fall Some of us said that the rats are already starting to jump ship. 4 hours ago, Basket Case said: 1 of 2 things.. 1) He's part of the planned theatre to stir shit up and cause division, or 2) He really is against the bullshit. If he really is against the bullshit, then best of luck to him. If more high level celebrities were the same, things might be a lot different now. My money is on - 1) part of the theatre. He will either be deported as a 'lesson' to everyone or will contract Convid and bail out of the tournament. BC The PTB are definitely using him to try and stir up division, as with much of what they report on. I tend to think that he isn't part of the theatre, as many of his followers have probably also not been vaccinated, due to his stance. The PTB hate non-vaccination. I don't know though. If we see him rolling up his sleeve, any time soon, then that would obviously seal it. 1 hour ago, DaleP said: If No.2, he's a rarity imo. Which footballers has stood up like him? They are all falling down clutching their chest.... and even worse, sheep spectators have no clue why. Time will tell which. The only 'highest profile', unvaccinated sportspeople I am aware of, are Kyrie Irving (NBA) and Aaron Rodgers (NFL). Fun fact, Kyrie Irving is also a flat earther. There must be some 'highest profile', unvaccinated footballers out there. They are either keeping quiet or they faked getting vaccinated. Messi, perhaps? Edited January 13 by numnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 US Supreme Court blocks Biden's workplace vaccine mandate https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59989476 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, JJ73 said: They haven't administered any. They can't give her any for 28 days because she has been diagnosed with Covid. She has agreed to have all 3. I think your priority is to get her out of there alive. Like SOS has said, you can deprogramme her once she is out of the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2022 at 8:41 PM, Orange Alert said: An intensive care doctor has revealed that every single coronavirus patient in his hospital’s critical care unit is unvaccinated. lets just hope that it isn't policy to put unjabbed people suffering from respiratory problems onto ventilators whilst they don't ventilate the jabbed That could be paranoia but its something a few people have talked about in this thread and it would be great to have some data on that. We need a whistleblower! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: lets just hope that it isn't policy to put unjabbed people suffering from respiratory problems onto ventilators whilst they don't ventilate the jabbed That could be paranoia but its something a few people have talked about in this thread and it would be great to have some data on that. We need a whistleblower! I agree. I did spend a bit of time researching that point when I read the post. I didn't find anything. But I do recall reading something along those lines some time ago. Though I think it was in the US, maybe NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, Macnamara said: lets just hope that it isn't policy to put unjabbed people suffering from respiratory problems onto ventilators whilst they don't ventilate the jabbed That could be paranoia but its something a few people have talked about in this thread and it would be great to have some data on that. We need a whistleblower! The lies have been coming at us from all directions, in the newspapers and TV screens, Bare faced lies. Over and over. l'd guess only a FOI request would settle this... BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Double Vaccinated 18-Year-Old Brazilian Model Dies After Developing Blood Clots Due to 'COVID Complications' (thegatewaypundit.com) An 18-year-old Brazilian model died on Sunday reportedly due to COVID-19 complications despite receiving 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine, the Covid world reported. “Valentina was healthy and had taken both doses of the vaccine [Pfizer]. She was part of the Ford Model Brasil São Paulo agency, which confirmed her death [translated],” says news outlet Estadao. It was confirmed that the young model was vaccinated with 2 doses of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine according to an Instagram post from journalist Felipeh Campos who is close to the family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: But I do recall reading something along those lines some time ago. Though I think it was in the US, maybe NY. It's just the kind of thing i could see them doing as it would allow them to make the kind of claims that they are now making. Also as something like 80+% of people who get put on a ventilator die it also bumps up their 'covid' deaths stats One problem is that the hospitals are not letting loved ones in who can question the medical staff so patients can be bullied into agreeing to be put into a coma and ventilated (basically a death sentence) certainly it sounded like hospitals in the US were being PAID when they put someone on a ventilator so that gives them a financial incentive There was that whistleblower doctor who questioned if ventilating people was the right treatment and he said that the people he was seeing were exhibiting what to him looked like high altitude sickness which obviously fed all the speculation here at the time about the role of 5G and how that might be preventing the bodies proper uptake of oxygen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: An 18-year-old Brazilian model died on Sunday reportedly due to COVID-19 complications despite receiving 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine don't you just love how they are spinning these deaths now? they say that the person died DESPITE being jabbed instead of saying BECAUSE they were jabbed It's so sick and i just hope that more and more people will see through it but there are an awful lot of people who are now heavily invested in upholding the lie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, Macnamara said: don't you just love how they are spinning these deaths now? they say that the person died DESPITE being jabbed instead of saying BECAUSE they were jabbed I missed that. Good spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Government Guidance to GPs on Vaccine Safety Omits Pfizer Trial Data Showing Twice as Many Cardiovascular Deaths in Vaccinated While Pfizer has come in for criticism for its trial methodologies, the safety issues at the six-month stage are clear: out of 21,926 subjects in the vaccinated group, 6,617 or 30.2% experienced an adverse event. This compares with 13.9% in the placebo group. Related adverse events which an investigator has assessed as related to the Pfizer injection stood at 23.9% of the vaccinated group against 6.0% of the placebo group. The results also show an increased risk of death with nine from cardiovascular events compared with five from the placebo group. The evidence of risk is plain to see. But this published paper – with the same authors and in the same journal (the New England Journal of Medicine) as the one of May 2020 – is not referred to in the Green Book. Is this a sin of commission or omission? ...by omitting the latest published evidence from Pfizer in its guidance to GPs, the Government is not being honest about vaccine safety. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/01/11/government-guidance-to-gps-on-vaccine-safety-omits-pfizer-trial-data-showing-twice-as-many-cardiovascular-deaths-in-vaccinated/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: I missed that. Good spot! The underlying message is: 'they took all the jabs but oh shucks that darned covid got them anyway because it just keeps mutating, but don't worry we have got a new miracle drug just around the corner that's gonna knock that pesky covid into cocked hat once and for all!. All you have to do is let the government spend all your taxes on buying it from us and then you just need to roll up your sleave....' This is walter rothschild leading on a tortoise but it could equally be big pharma leading on the public: Edited January 13 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Disturbing: Aussie Cops Take Elderly Woman to Jail for Failing to Show Vaccine Papers (infowars.com) Explaining the situation on Facebook, the owner of the Cafe, Matt Straight, who also filmed the incident, described “5 disgusting individuals in police uniform” entering his business and interrogating him “as to whether I’m allowing unvaxxed people dine at my establishment and then proceed to check all guests and arrest this lovely lady just because she wouldn’t show her medical records to them.” “This Lady peacefully left the cafe when the police entered and waited outside,” Straight added. “It wasn’t until the police finished checking all patrons that all 5 focused on her and insisted she show her vaccination status. She politely said she would provide her name and address but declines sharing her medical records. They pushed and pushed to try get her to hand over her phone and when she refused, they said she is under arrest. We asked for what? There is nothing in the mandate that says you can be arrested for not showing, but says you can be made to leave a venue. Which she did on her own accord. They said she is obstructing justice.” One cop explains she’s being arrested for refusing to show them her “certificate.” Later another officer claims she’s being arrested for “obstructing justice.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemdesivirDogs Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Rookie politician Gideon van Meijeren catching out Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte in a web of lies and ties to the Klaus Schwab Great Reset. Edited January 14 by RemdesivirDogs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Major Airline Pilot Describes Heart Problems Following Covid Vaccine: “I Could Have Stroked Out at 100 Feet Trying to Land an Airplane” (infowars.com) American Airlines Captain Greg Pearson recalled suffering atrial fibrillation after he decided to get a work-mandated Covid-19 jab. Pearson gave his testimony during a press conference at AmericaFest 2021 last month, where he said he decided to get the jab after being pressured by his employer. Pearson says after he got jabbed he woke up in the middle of the night with chest pain. According to Pearson, the heart emergency could have cost hundreds of people their lives if he’d been piloting a jumbo jet at the time it occurred. “You never know when the genie’s gonna come out of the bottle and smack you down,” he said, adding, “I could have stroked out at 100 feet trying to land an airplane with 40 airplanes lined up next to us. I could have just pushed down on that stick before the person next to me could do anything.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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