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I am in a very bad way.

 

My mother has been admitted into hospital. Just after 5pm yesterday evening she left here. She told the paramedics she did not want the Covid jab and they told her they would respect her wishes.

 

I phoned the hospital at 8.30pm and asked about the status of my mother, to be told by a doctor that upon admittance she had tested positive for Covid and that "after a long chat with your mum, she has agreed to have all 3 jabs." I was horrified. We have gone this far without them. There is no way she would agree to that.

 

He then said to me that the diarrhoea she was having is a symptom of Covid. I told him that the diarrhoea was the direct result of the antibiotics which had been prescribed 3 days earlier for her water infection.  He ignored this. I asked if she was going to be administered midazolam or remdesvir and he seemed shocked at this and replied that they had considered both but likely wouldn't be given this to her at that stage but that she was on oxygen. She was breathing just fine when she left our house.

 

I called again this morning to be told that she was sitting up, eating, drinking and that I could speak to her if I wanted to which I did. The change in my mother was shocking. She has clearly been got to because she kept mentioning that there was no issues with her not having had the jabs and that no one judged her and then she told me that I was "stupid" for not having had the jabs and that I am to have them or else I am to look for somewhere else to live when she comes out of hospital because I would be "putting her at risk." It was like listening to a Covid vaccine infomercial. I would be the one at risk surely for not having taking the jabs?

 

Anyway, this evening I spoke with another doctor who told me that although my mother is now off the oxygen and back on air that she could 'reach a nadir at around the 5-7 day mark' and it could lead to multiple organ failure and I need to give him permission not to resuscitate her should that happen. That I am to think this over and he wants my wishes made known in the next 24 hours. He said that her mortality rate is between 10-30% and that I have to hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

 

It's every nightmare I have ever had rolled into one. I think they are going to ease her out. I don't think she is leaving there. Because of her Covid status, they are not accepting any visitors for her. She's a sitting duck.

 

What are my options legally please because I don't like what is happening?

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10 minutes ago, JJ73 said:

I am in a very bad way.

 

My mother has been admitted into hospital. Just after 5pm yesterday evening she left here. She told the paramedics she did not want the Covid jab and they told her they would respect her wishes.

 

I phoned the hospital at 8.30pm and asked about the status of my mother, to be told by a doctor that upon admittance she had tested positive for Covid and that "after a long chat with your mum, she has agreed to have all 3 jabs." I was horrified. We have gone this far without them. There is no way she would agree to that.

 

He then said to me that the diarrhoea she was having is a symptom of Covid. I told him that the diarrhoea was the direct result of the antibiotics which had been prescribed 3 days earlier for her water infection.  He ignored this. I asked if she was going to be administered midazolam or remdesvir and he seemed shocked at this and replied that they had considered both but likely wouldn't be given this to her at that stage but that she was on oxygen. She was breathing just fine when she left our house.

 

I called again this morning to be told that she was sitting up, eating, drinking and that I could speak to her if I wanted to which I did. The change in my mother was shocking. She has clearly been got to because she kept mentioning that there was no issues with her not having had the jabs and that no one judged her and then she told me that I was "stupid" for not having had the jabs and that I am to have them or else I am to look for somewhere else to live when she comes out of hospital because I would be "putting her at risk." It was like listening to a Covid vaccine infomercial. I would be the one at risk surely for not having taking the jabs?

 

Anyway, this evening I spoke with another doctor who told me that although my mother is now off the oxygen and back on air that she could 'reach a nadir at around the 5-7 day mark' and it could lead to multiple organ failure and I need to give him permission not to resuscitate her should that happen. That I am to think this over and he wants my wishes made known in the next 24 hours. He said that her mortality rate is between 10-30% and that I have to hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

 

It's every nightmare I have ever had rolled into one. I think they are going to ease her out. I don't think she is leaving there. Because of her Covid status, they are not accepting any visitors for her. She's a sitting duck.

 

What are my options legally please because I don't like what is happening?

Just rescue her JJ simple 

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Just now, Celticdevil said:

Just rescue her JJ simple 

 

I told them I wanted her out of there and they told me that she is not accepting visitors and she cannot be discharged as she is 90 years of age and 'suffering with Covid.'

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Oh o o o o o oH It's all coming down one by one.

Two delightful news today.

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Jonathan Van-Tam to leave role as deputy chief medical officer

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59979504

 

Mind you, he got his knighthood....

 

And Prince Andrew loses military titles and use of HRH https://davidicke.com/2022/01/13/prince-andrew-loses-military-titles-and-use-of-hrh/

 

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1 minute ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Do you have a power of attorney over her?

 

Has she been judged to be mentally unfit to make decisions?

 

I'm her guardian and her next of kin.

 

I don't believe she has, no.

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22 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

The Supreme Court has struck down Biden's mandate rule for private businesses but has allowed the mandate for health care workers to continue.  I'll post the full text of the judgment later when I have time.

That doesn't sound good.

 

It seems to me that the Supremes would be okay with forcing clot shots if Congress passed a law.

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5 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

How have you been appointed guardian?

 

Is there a legal document?

 

No document. I presumed that because she has put me down as her next of kin that it conferred some kind of guardian status?

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10 minutes ago, JJ73 said:

 

No document. I presumed that because she has put me down as her next of kin that it conferred some kind of guardian status?

Usually at the time someone writes a will in favor of a relative they will also grant a power of attorney enabling that relative to make medical decisions.

 

But not always.

 

Obviously if you had a legal right to make her medical decisions you would be in a better position.

 

If she is still deemed mentally competent to make her own decisions that makes it more difficult too.

 

I'll have a think about it.

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14 minutes ago, JJ73 said:

 

No document. I presumed that because she has put me down as her next of kin that it conferred some kind of guardian status?

Just get in and see your mums ok bud Fck them 

where there’s a will there’s a way 😉

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4 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Usually at the time someone writes a will in favor of a relative they will also grant a power of attorney enabling that relative to make medical decisions.

 

But not always.

 

Obviously if you had a legal right to make her medical decisions you would be in a better position.

 

If she is still deemed mentally competent to make her own decisions that makes it more difficult too.

 

I'll have a think about it.

 

Thank you.

 

The problem is, is that in just the 24 hours since she has been admitted she has completely changed her views about the jabs which she has always been adamant she wouldn't have. When I spoke with her today she was talking about setting a petition up when she comes home to honour the doctors and nurses on the front line treating Covid. They have clearly got to her, in her weakened state.  She is in her own room rather than being in a ward which I also don't like.

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2 minutes ago, JJ73 said:

 

Thank you.

 

The problem is, is that in just the 24 hours since she has been admitted she has completely changed her views about the jabs which she has always been adamant she wouldn't have. When I spoke with her today she was talking about setting a petition up when she comes home to honour the doctors and nurses on the front line treating Covid. They have clearly got to her, in her weakened state.  She is in her own room rather than being in a ward which I also don't like.

 

Sorry to hear about what's happening. Who's the most senior person you've spoken to in the hospital, and Is there anyone more senior you can speak to?

 

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4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Sorry to hear about what's happening. Who's the most senior person you've spoken to in the hospital, and Is there anyone more senior you can speak to?

 

 

I have spoken to the specialist doctor who is treating her.

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Have you tried to speak to anyone more senior?

 

I haven't. I will ask to speak to someone more senior tomorrow.

 

I'm completely out of my depth here. What should I be asking please?

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