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A good read to give hope is about the Finnish resistance to the Soviet Union. Basic weapons, improvised, whatever was at hand. They gave a pretty good showing by all accounts.

Not saying we need to do that. There are plenty of ways to resist.

Agree that Farage is useful at the moment. I just think he’s a useful idiot who will sell his supporters in down the line when he’s achieved his personal goal.

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Am I the only one who's signed petitions and refused the rules but really believes that we will not change a thing? A war of some kind is coming. Civil unrest/war whoever wins the US election, economic crash and major Depression everywhere, forced vaccination after Covid 21 (possibly?) and the reset. It feels like Fate. We are not getting out of this. That's not to say we can't try or fight when it comes, but I've been waiting for this for at least a decade and I'm sick of the wait. As Scroobius Pip sings "If the bad times are coming, let 'em come!" I am so sick of most of the people I meet and know that I honestly think we should be wiped off the face of the earth. Had enough. Probably not posting any more. Thanks for being the opposition. Good luck. Maybe see you in prison. 😜😁

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51 minutes ago, KTgran said:

Am I the only one who's signed petitions and refused the rules but really believes that we will not change a thing? A war of some kind is coming. Civil unrest/war whoever wins the US election, economic crash and major Depression everywhere, forced vaccination after Covid 21 (possibly?) and the reset. It feels like Fate. We are not getting out of this. That's not to say we can't try or fight when it comes, but I've been waiting for this for at least a decade and I'm sick of the wait. As Scroobius Pip sings "If the bad times are coming, let 'em come!" I am so sick of most of the people I meet and know that I honestly think we should be wiped off the face of the earth. Had enough. Probably not posting any more. Thanks for being the opposition. Good luck. Maybe see you in prison. 😜😁

 

 

there's a few threads saying concentration camps have been built for the people who think covid is made up nonsense

 

so it's more likely i will see you there

 

 

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2 hours ago, suzredfern said:

Demonstrations of more than two people are to be banned during the month-long lockdown in England, with ministers set to remove an exemption that has allowed protests to take place in recent months.   https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-protests-england-lockdown-home-office-demonstrations-b1556584.html

 

 

 

 

According to Lord Sumption the powers that the Government has taken for itself may not be lawful

 

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Lockdowns and other Government-imposed Covid curbs contain all the ingredients of totalitarianism, a former Supreme Court judge warns. Orders to remain at home and rafts of new laws to restrict what people can do amount to a ‘breathtaking’ infringement of democratic rights, advises Lord Sumption.

He has repeatedly warned that ministers have been exceeding their rightful powers but these criticisms are his strongest yet. He told the Cambridge Law Faculty that the use of coercion to try to quell the pandemic is unprecedented in British history, even in wartime, and that it runs against basic freedoms.

Lord Sumption accused ministers of using the police to suppress opposition to their policies, of creating new criminal offences without the legal right to do so, and of grabbing unconstitutional powers by issuing misleading guidance.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8908503/Was-lockdown-sold-LIE-Oxford-scientist-says-4-000-deaths-graph-NOT-used.html

 

 

More proof England's lockdown was premature? Top researchers say R rate has dropped to 1 as Oxford expert claims Covid infections are 'flatlining' and the '4,000 deaths' graph used to justify restrictions has 'proven to be incorrect'

By Stephen Matthews Health Editor and Connor Boyd Assistant Health Editor and Sam Blanchard Senior Health Reporter and James Gant For Mailonline08:06, 03 Nov 2020 , updated 14:17, 03 Nov 2020

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  • King's College London said cases were now 'plateauing' and there was a 'slight fall' in infections across UK 
  • Oxford's Carl Heneghan said told how coronavirus hospital admissions, cases and 'in effect' deaths in retreat
  • It comes as Sir Patrick Vallance and Prof Chris Whitty face questions from MPs over the 4,000 deaths figure
  • Meanwhile Britain yesterday recorded its lowest number of daily coronavirus infections in fortnight - 18,950
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8907339/How-No10s-experts-shamelessly-manipulated-data-terrify-England-locking-down.html

 

 

 

Calling the Boffins' bluff: How No10's experts manipulated data and drew biased conclusions to 'terrify' England into locking down, writes ROSS CLARK

By Ross Clark for the Daily Mail22:49, 02 Nov 2020 , updated 23:22, 02 Nov 2020

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It was the Halloween horror no one had been expecting: a series of mind-boggling graphs and charts presented at Saturday's Downing Street press conference that purported to show the Covid-19 pandemic was out of control and a second national lockdown was needed. 

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But do the graphs and charts really support this? ROSS CLARK find outs ...

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1 hour ago, Bombadil said:

A good read to give hope is about the Finnish resistance to the Soviet Union. Basic weapons, improvised, whatever was at hand. They gave a pretty good showing by all accounts.

Not saying we need to do that. There are plenty of ways to resist.

Agree that Farage is useful at the moment. I just think he’s a useful idiot who will sell his supporters in down the line when he’s achieved his personal goal.

 

Farage is there to lead the Resistance away from the Target.

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Daily Mail

 

England's second lockdown in the gloomy TV briefing announcing the lockdown Saturday night, insisting they were misleading with one 'proven to be incorrect'. One, which suggested there could be up to 4,000 deaths per day by December, was 'mathematically incorrect' and should not have been used, he claimed.

 

Sir Patrick Vallance and Professor Chris Whitty have come under fire for gloomy slides they presented in the press conference at the weekend, and will be grilled by MPs on Parliament's science committee this afternoon to justify the evidence for another national lockdown.

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1 hour ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

If anyone needs a happy pill see below

 

TalkRadio has been pretty good lately. A lot of the political and business class are starting to see through the veil, whether it helps or not remains to be seen.

 

Christ I hope that was just some call-in he had on the phone and not a Welsh MP? Hard to tell at this point

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1 hour ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

If anyone needs a happy pill see below

 

TalkRadio has been pretty good lately. A lot of the political and business class are starting to see through the veil, whether it helps or not remains to be seen.

Unfortunately silly old sods like the caller here are up and down the country. 

 

Really he is a scared frightened little old man.

 

And they are the selfish ones aren't they if anyone is in all of this. Have to ruin everyone else's lives because they are petrified of a not very deadly seasonal flu. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, KTgran said:

Am I the only one who's signed petitions and refused the rules but really believes that we will not change a thing? A war of some kind is coming. Civil unrest/war whoever wins the US election, economic crash and major Depression everywhere, forced vaccination after Covid 21 (possibly?) and the reset. It feels like Fate. We are not getting out of this. That's not to say we can't try or fight when it comes, but I've been waiting for this for at least a decade and I'm sick of the wait. As Scroobius Pip sings "If the bad times are coming, let 'em come!" I am so sick of most of the people I meet and know that I honestly think we should be wiped off the face of the earth. Had enough. Probably not posting any more. Thanks for being the opposition. Good luck. Maybe see you in prison. 😜😁

I'm ping ponging between we will see a succesful uprising to everything is going to plan.

 

However the resistance seems to be gathering pace. Stay hopeful and don't stop posting on here - its a lifeline for truth and emotional wellbeing.

 

I would also say I'm grateful for this community because without it I think I may have given up with everything. 

 

Oppressors always lose and truth will always find a way even if it may not be the "full" truth. 

 

Who knows without us this situation may have been EVEN WORSE. 

 

Lastly, the best thing we can do is not follow these dumb rules en mass.

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2 hours ago, KTgran said:

Am I the only one who's signed petitions and refused the rules but really believes that we will not change a thing? A war of some kind is coming. Civil unrest/war whoever wins the US election, economic crash and major Depression everywhere, forced vaccination after Covid 21 (possibly?) and the reset. It feels like Fate. We are not getting out of this. That's not to say we can't try or fight when it comes, but I've been waiting for this for at least a decade and I'm sick of the wait. As Scroobius Pip sings "If the bad times are coming, let 'em come!" I am so sick of most of the people I meet and know that I honestly think we should be wiped off the face of the earth. Had enough. Probably not posting any more. Thanks for being the opposition. Good luck. Maybe see you in prison. 😜😁

 

 

In the words of DI....dont let the bastards get to you.

 

I do agree many people are pathetic. I almost feel like I am a different species....and on a bad day I get the urge to sock someone in the jaw for their stupididy... ( of course as a lady and woman with decorum - for the most part lol - I manage to restrain myself so far) Some of them are simply lost in the area of common sense due to the constant conditioning... others are loving the power to point fingers towards us ``conspiracy theorists```..... hang in there... we know how youre feeling...you are not alone..

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6 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

I hate talking politics as it divides everyone, but if Biden gets in everyone is fucked. There is talk if Trump gets re-elected Fauci's a goner.

 

 

Whoever gets in... those in true control right now will be continuing as always.... We need to rise up as people...but maybe too many cowards or sheep.

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15 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Unfortunately silly old sods like the caller here are up and down the country. 

 

Really he is a scared frightened little old man.

 

And they are the selfish ones aren't they if anyone is in all of this. Have to ruin everyone else's lives because they are petrified of a not very deadly seasonal flu. 

 

 

 

 i agree but i also think it's not just fear of the novel deadly virus

 it's fear of "disobedience" fear of being in a minority (peer pressure)

the older generation were conditioned to be obedient authority worshiping conformists

 

he most likely feels proud of himself for following commands correctly

and would point out anyone not doing so to the nearest authority figure

 

"everyone must follow the rules" is his mantra

no acceptation

 

this man was trained the same way as a dog 

when dogs returns a ball or stick successfully they get a dopamine release

repeat the process (repetition is the mother of retention) and a new routine is established

 

this old man is an old dog that belongs to the state he is government property like a police dog or horse 

sadly he is most likely too old to learn any new tricks like thinking for himself

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

In the words of DI....dont let the bastards get to you.

 

I do agree many people are pathetic. I almost feel like I am a different species....and on a bad day I get the urge to sock someone in the jaw for their stupididy... ( of course as a lady and woman with decorum - for the most part lol - I manage to restrain myself so far) Some of them are simply lost in the area of common sense due to the constant conditioning... others are loving the power to point fingers towards us ``conspiracy theorists```..... hang in there... we know how youre feeling...you are not alone..

 

Out of likes.

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7 hours ago, Mr H said:

Just a question. Those chief scientist guys who seem to be running the country Whitty and Valance I think their names are.

 

They both have significant interests in GSK who are making a vaccine - and they are leading us through this crisis with a vaccine only strategy. This has all been documented in telegraph etc.

 

My question is, how come this is not deemed to be a conflict of interest? And therefore, these two should not be able to make such policy decisions? I don't understand this...

Same way they told us PCR tests are shite, masks dont work, lockdowns dont work, they manipulated deaths etc and still they carry on.

 

In plain sight they tell us but continue to ignore their own words.

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From Daily Mail;

 

”UK terror threat level is being raised to SEVERE - meaning an attack is highly likely after terrorists struck in France and Austria ”

 

How many people will see this, become paralysed with fear, and not even allow themselves to the supermarket, their one lockdown “liberty”?

 

so contrived.

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