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Demonstrations of more than two people are to be banned during the month-long lockdown in England, with ministers set to remove an exemption that has allowed protests to take place in recent months.   https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-protests-england-lockdown-home-office-demonstrations-b1556584.html

 

 

1 hour ago, jesuitsdidit said:

Does lockdown mean protests not allowed?

 

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24 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Well brilliant might as well give up and die then

Not trying to be pessimistic and don’t think giving up and dying is a great idea. Just not seeing any real movement of resistance to what’s happening. I personally don’t know what is the best way to change what is happening. There’s no real banner for people of all ways of thinking to rally around at the moment. Don’t know what that is but I will gladly fight to the end for the right movement that genuinely wants to stop this crap without hidden self interest and agenda

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3 hours ago, Mr H said:

Just a question. Those chief scientist guys who seem to be running the country Whitty and Valance I think their names are.

 

They both have significant interests in GSK who are making a vaccine - and they are leading us through this crisis with a vaccine only strategy. This has all been documented in telegraph etc.

 

My question is, how come this is not deemed to be a conflict of interest? And therefore, these two should not be able to make such policy decisions? I don't understand this...

 

According to the government, there's no conflict of interest because...

 

“The Government’s Chief Scientific Advisor has no input into contractual and commercial decisions on vaccine procurement which are taken by Ministers following a robust cross-Government approvals regime.”

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/patrick-vallance-vaccine-shares-denies-conflict-interest-a4555141.html

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1 minute ago, bryan said:

 

According to the government, there's no conflict of interest because...

 

“The Government’s Chief Scientific Advisor has no input into contractual and commercial decisions on vaccine procurement which are taken by Ministers following a robust cross-Government approvals regime.”

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/patrick-vallance-vaccine-shares-denies-conflict-interest-a4555141.html

Aha thank you. Guess being in charge of a policy that will bring about personal financial gain is not a conflict of interest then according to them......

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4 minutes ago, bryan said:

 

According to the government, there's no conflict of interest because...

 

“The Government’s Chief Scientific Advisor has no input into contractual and commercial decisions on vaccine procurement which are taken by Ministers following a robust cross-Government approvals regime.”

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/patrick-vallance-vaccine-shares-denies-conflict-interest-a4555141.html

 

The government chief scientific advisor sets the stage for the need for a vaccine by convincing the government of the worst case scenarios. So in that sense the government's so called independent approval process is irrelevant because they have already been convinced that a vaccine is needed, the job is already done. Whether they choose vaccine 1 2 or 3 is irrelevant. 

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43 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Well brilliant might as well give up and die then

 

Sadly, Bombadil is right and yes, we may as well give up and die.

We have NO chance while 95% of the population are totally brainwashed.

At the risk of repeating myself, the ONLY chance we have is if the police and military personnel

realise that they are helping bring about their own loved ones eventual demise and start refusing

to be the muscle for the 1%.

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7 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

The government chief scientific advisor sets the stage for the need for a vaccine by convincing the government of the worst case scenarios. So in that sense the government's so called independent approval process is irrelevant because they have already been convinced that a vaccine is needed, the job is already done. Whether they choose vaccine 1 2 or 3 is irrelevant. 

 

Ha we all know those graphs are jiggered. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8908503/Was-lockdown-sold-LIE-Oxford-scientist-says-4-000-deaths-graph-NOT-used.html

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Calling the Boffins' bluff: How No10's experts manipulated data and drew biased conclusions to 'terrify' England into locking down, writes ROSS CLARK.

 

It was the Halloween horror no one had been expecting: a series of mind-boggling graphs and charts presented at Saturday's Downing Street press conference that purported to show the Covid-19 pandemic was out of control and a second national lockdown was needed. 

But do the graphs and charts really support this? ROSS CLARK find outs ...

 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8907339/How-No10s-experts-shamelessly-manipulated-data-terrify-England-locking-down.html

 

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The model is called 'The Guardian', made by a company called 'Jankel' I think. I posted an article a while back before the forum hack and it said they're going to roll out a lot in 2021, but I can't find it now.

 

Interesting......when I put the number plate of the one on the left into the Government vehicle tax website it threw this at me.

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A good read to give hope is about the Finnish resistance to the Soviet Union. Basic weapons, improvised, whatever was at hand. They gave a pretty good showing by all accounts.

Not saying we need to do that. There are plenty of ways to resist.

Agree that Farage is useful at the moment. I just think he’s a useful idiot who will sell his supporters in down the line when he’s achieved his personal goal.

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Am I the only one who's signed petitions and refused the rules but really believes that we will not change a thing? A war of some kind is coming. Civil unrest/war whoever wins the US election, economic crash and major Depression everywhere, forced vaccination after Covid 21 (possibly?) and the reset. It feels like Fate. We are not getting out of this. That's not to say we can't try or fight when it comes, but I've been waiting for this for at least a decade and I'm sick of the wait. As Scroobius Pip sings "If the bad times are coming, let 'em come!" I am so sick of most of the people I meet and know that I honestly think we should be wiped off the face of the earth. Had enough. Probably not posting any more. Thanks for being the opposition. Good luck. Maybe see you in prison. 😜😁

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51 minutes ago, KTgran said:

Am I the only one who's signed petitions and refused the rules but really believes that we will not change a thing? A war of some kind is coming. Civil unrest/war whoever wins the US election, economic crash and major Depression everywhere, forced vaccination after Covid 21 (possibly?) and the reset. It feels like Fate. We are not getting out of this. That's not to say we can't try or fight when it comes, but I've been waiting for this for at least a decade and I'm sick of the wait. As Scroobius Pip sings "If the bad times are coming, let 'em come!" I am so sick of most of the people I meet and know that I honestly think we should be wiped off the face of the earth. Had enough. Probably not posting any more. Thanks for being the opposition. Good luck. Maybe see you in prison. 😜😁

 

 

there's a few threads saying concentration camps have been built for the people who think covid is made up nonsense

 

so it's more likely i will see you there

 

 

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2 hours ago, suzredfern said:

Demonstrations of more than two people are to be banned during the month-long lockdown in England, with ministers set to remove an exemption that has allowed protests to take place in recent months.   https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-protests-england-lockdown-home-office-demonstrations-b1556584.html

 

 

 

 

According to Lord Sumption the powers that the Government has taken for itself may not be lawful

 

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Lockdowns and other Government-imposed Covid curbs contain all the ingredients of totalitarianism, a former Supreme Court judge warns. Orders to remain at home and rafts of new laws to restrict what people can do amount to a ‘breathtaking’ infringement of democratic rights, advises Lord Sumption.

He has repeatedly warned that ministers have been exceeding their rightful powers but these criticisms are his strongest yet. He told the Cambridge Law Faculty that the use of coercion to try to quell the pandemic is unprecedented in British history, even in wartime, and that it runs against basic freedoms.

Lord Sumption accused ministers of using the police to suppress opposition to their policies, of creating new criminal offences without the legal right to do so, and of grabbing unconstitutional powers by issuing misleading guidance.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8908503/Was-lockdown-sold-LIE-Oxford-scientist-says-4-000-deaths-graph-NOT-used.html

 

 

More proof England's lockdown was premature? Top researchers say R rate has dropped to 1 as Oxford expert claims Covid infections are 'flatlining' and the '4,000 deaths' graph used to justify restrictions has 'proven to be incorrect'

By Stephen Matthews Health Editor and Connor Boyd Assistant Health Editor and Sam Blanchard Senior Health Reporter and James Gant For Mailonline08:06, 03 Nov 2020 , updated 14:17, 03 Nov 2020

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  • King's College London said cases were now 'plateauing' and there was a 'slight fall' in infections across UK 
  • Oxford's Carl Heneghan said told how coronavirus hospital admissions, cases and 'in effect' deaths in retreat
  • It comes as Sir Patrick Vallance and Prof Chris Whitty face questions from MPs over the 4,000 deaths figure
  • Meanwhile Britain yesterday recorded its lowest number of daily coronavirus infections in fortnight - 18,950
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