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Just now, mishy said:

 

I'm starting to think (Hoping?) that they've pushed too early.

 

I know Icke goes on about how they can't go from A to Z directly as people will be like WTF? This feels like they've gone from P to Z though and missed out loads of the alphabet!

 

Exactly, as Velma alluded to enforced quarantine is probably the real purpose of those hospitals.

 

I agree with you, we're reaching critical mass in terms of awareness. We don't need 100% of people to be awake to it, probably about 20% would do and suddenly you see the scales start to tip. People are already starting to call it out, if things start to take an even more sinister turn all it will mean is more people realise what's really going on.

 

The totalitarian tiptoe has worked well for them for centuries. I think they were frustrated about being way behind on the agenda and their grand vision for the 21st century not bearing fruit so they broke into a jog and it might turn into a sprint.

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19 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

People are already starting to call it out, if things start to take an even more sinister turn all it will mean is more people realise what's really going on.

 

 

There is definitely a strong movement against the measures that were not there beforehand.

 

Even though people may not like them, The Daily Mail and now Nigel Farage are on the case and like them or loathe them they both have huge public influence. And in the case of Farage he tends to get things done when he sets his mind on something.

 

I don't think the opposition is strong enough for the government to listen.

 

My hypothesis is that if things continue, this opposition will grow and amongst the public there could be some civil unrest which is the only thing it would seem at this moment that the government would listen to.

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47 minutes ago, Mr H said:

There is definitely a strong movement against the measures that were not there beforehand.

 

Even though people may not like them, The Daily Mail and now Nigel Farage are on the case and like them or loathe them they both have huge public influence. And in the case of Farage he tends to get things done when he sets his mind on something.

 

I don't think the opposition is strong enough for the government to listen.

 

My hypothesis is that if things continue, this opposition will grow and amongst the public there could be some civil unrest which is the only thing it would seem at this moment that the government would listen to.

 

Good summary I think.

 

However if we see civil unrest in the form of riots it's better than nothing but the government can simply respond with heavier police presence. A mass, organised reopening of business against the shutdown would be much more difficult to police.

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9 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Good summary I think.

 

However if we see civil unrest in the form of riots it's better than nothing but the government can simply respond with heavier police presence. A mass, organised reopening of business against the shutdown would be much more difficult to police.

Mass organized re-opening of business would be game over. I can't see anyone being able to organize something like that though.

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9 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Good summary I think.

 

However if we see civil unrest in the form of riots it's better than nothing but the government can simply respond with heavier police presence. A mass, organised reopening of business against the shutdown would be much more difficult to police.

I think civil unrest is definitely part of the script, it's the aftermath that people should be concerned about.

 

Civil unrest is literally in the Rockefeller think-tank playbook. I refer everyone to Harry Vox in this scenario.

 

 

Soviet active measures:

 

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24 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Good summary I think.

 

However if we see civil unrest in the form of riots it's better than nothing but the government can simply respond with heavier police presence. A mass, organised reopening of business against the shutdown would be much more difficult to police.

 

Agreed

Same as mass non-compliance with mask wearing

Same as mass non-compliance with testing.

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1 hour ago, Illmatic said:

 

Mass testing - > More positives - > Lock down harder - > Even More testing - > Health passport - > Social credit grid

 

The scam is so obviously staring everyone straight in the face at this point. But the whole thing is such a farce I have growing faith it will all go wrong for them. Giving the big job to someone as inept and unlikeable as Bojo was a big oversight.

Think unfortunately this will not be the case. There is much talk, not necessarily by you, that we are the 99%. Alas the 99% are the sheeple who will welcome this all with open arms. By now they’ve done such a good job of installing fear in the masses and turning the masses against each other( grass your neighbour etc). Johnson could come out and announce that it was all a big joke. All that would happen is the public would call for his removal from office so that he could be replaced with someone who wants to carry on as we are.

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12 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Translation: Greece deploys the army to control the curfew in its cities.

 

 

Not sure if this has been confirmed as I can't find anything on it, only border operations.

 

 

I suppose the question is how long before that's done here. We've already seen the UN troops in Ireland, it won't be long before they roll out to the streets here. 👍🏻

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18 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Mass organized re-opening of business would be game over. I can't see anyone being able to organize something like that though.

 

That's why business owners need to communicate and organise themselves. The guilt-tripping is wearing off, a lot of them will be staring bankruptcy in the face. Time to act now or close the doors forever. 

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1 minute ago, Morpheus said:

I suppose the question is how long before that's done here. We've already seen the UN troops in Ireland, it won't be long before they roll out to the streets here. 👍🏻

 

They do have a UN base in Ireland where they store vehicles if I remember rightly, but I don't give it long before they're deployed against us like you say.

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12 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

They do have a UN base in Ireland where they store vehicles if I remember rightly, but I don't give it long before they're deployed against us like you say.

Oh, I didn't know that, I've just seen pictures of them being mobilised and put 2 and 2 together, clearly getting 10. Cheers. 👍🏻

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57 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Think unfortunately this will not be the case. There is much talk, not necessarily by you, that we are the 99%. Alas the 99% are the sheeple who will welcome this all with open arms. By now they’ve done such a good job of installing fear in the masses and turning the masses against each other( grass your neighbour etc). Johnson could come out and announce that it was all a big joke. All that would happen is the public would call for his removal from office so that he could be replaced with someone who wants to carry on as we are.

 

Well brilliant might as well give up and die then

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Demonstrations of more than two people are to be banned during the month-long lockdown in England, with ministers set to remove an exemption that has allowed protests to take place in recent months.   https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-protests-england-lockdown-home-office-demonstrations-b1556584.html

 

 

1 hour ago, jesuitsdidit said:

Does lockdown mean protests not allowed?

 

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24 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Well brilliant might as well give up and die then

Not trying to be pessimistic and don’t think giving up and dying is a great idea. Just not seeing any real movement of resistance to what’s happening. I personally don’t know what is the best way to change what is happening. There’s no real banner for people of all ways of thinking to rally around at the moment. Don’t know what that is but I will gladly fight to the end for the right movement that genuinely wants to stop this crap without hidden self interest and agenda

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3 hours ago, Mr H said:

Just a question. Those chief scientist guys who seem to be running the country Whitty and Valance I think their names are.

 

They both have significant interests in GSK who are making a vaccine - and they are leading us through this crisis with a vaccine only strategy. This has all been documented in telegraph etc.

 

My question is, how come this is not deemed to be a conflict of interest? And therefore, these two should not be able to make such policy decisions? I don't understand this...

 

According to the government, there's no conflict of interest because...

 

“The Government’s Chief Scientific Advisor has no input into contractual and commercial decisions on vaccine procurement which are taken by Ministers following a robust cross-Government approvals regime.”

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/patrick-vallance-vaccine-shares-denies-conflict-interest-a4555141.html

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1 minute ago, bryan said:

 

According to the government, there's no conflict of interest because...

 

“The Government’s Chief Scientific Advisor has no input into contractual and commercial decisions on vaccine procurement which are taken by Ministers following a robust cross-Government approvals regime.”

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/patrick-vallance-vaccine-shares-denies-conflict-interest-a4555141.html

Aha thank you. Guess being in charge of a policy that will bring about personal financial gain is not a conflict of interest then according to them......

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4 minutes ago, bryan said:

 

According to the government, there's no conflict of interest because...

 

“The Government’s Chief Scientific Advisor has no input into contractual and commercial decisions on vaccine procurement which are taken by Ministers following a robust cross-Government approvals regime.”

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/patrick-vallance-vaccine-shares-denies-conflict-interest-a4555141.html

 

The government chief scientific advisor sets the stage for the need for a vaccine by convincing the government of the worst case scenarios. So in that sense the government's so called independent approval process is irrelevant because they have already been convinced that a vaccine is needed, the job is already done. Whether they choose vaccine 1 2 or 3 is irrelevant. 

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