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17 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

 

It is surely no coincidence that this comes hot on the heels of UKIP arising from its slumber to start questioning and pushing back against the 'lockdown' narrative.

 

Trying to take the wind out of their sails? Definitely 'opportunist' methinks.

 

 

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The only MP in the house of Commons who is not either complicit or brainwashed. If only there could be more MPs with the sense of this man, we would not been in this mess.

 

My own MP is complicit, i have asked him three times now for the false positive rate for the PCR tests. No valid response, just a copy and paste reply probably written by the generic response office.

 

 

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Just listen to this monumental pillock? :

"well...errr....mizzterr speakuhh...Piffle-piffle-blah-blah-blahdey-blah,babble,babble,  um err, actually, connection to sweden example that err, umm, err,  is not, not quite the slam dunk that perhaps err someerrr ummm think it is mizterr speaker if you look at sweden err they don't for allow instance, err they don't umm  errr ummmmm one, they don't not quite not allow people err pupills over  15 year olds to school whilst wheras we err prioritise keeping our schools open umm mr speaker and thats the balance we strike err the whole time its the balance its a balance between keeping our economy moving as far as we can and keeping our schools open and thats hat we are trying to do"

 

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
...and this fuckwit is running our country.

 

 

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6 hours ago, zArk said:

 

now hang on, i am not talking about the shop keeper dissenting or trying to do things differently

i am talking about the resurgence of the strawman/ freeman-on-the-land approach which this shop fella is clearly being informed by

 

to clarify and with reference to Gareths posted article on homepage

 

consent and do not consent is fine and dandy on the street, with contracts and agreements

saying 'the statute law doesnt apply to people, only common law does ' is also fine and dandy

 

but heres the kicker

when one becomes the defendant in a court case, the law is whatever the claimant says it is

there is no 'i do not consent' blathering. a defendant is subject to the law, the law of the case

if the claimant writes down 'defendant broke the law and didnt wear a face mask'  --- saying

"i do not consent" or "i disagree the law actually says this.."  < is more than foolish, it is ignorant.

 

the freeman-on-the-land group should be avoided as it will only lead to big BIG BIG trouble and those advising will run a mile. they are full of -sh** and pushing an agenda. i very much suspect they are of the black bloc, extinction rebellion, BLM origins .. to cause chaos, provoke civil unrest , spread ignorance that 'the system doesnt work' or the judges are all corrupt etc ... its classic neo-marxist approach to western law practice

 

n.b it is vital, as Bill Thornton and Karl Lenz say in many many speeches and in practice at court, settle the issue before court if possible .... and when at court always be the claimant / counter claimant ... never be the defendant .. EVER!

you become counterclaimant and with your court [of record] proceed according to the common law

 

 

 

Interesting thanks for the info.

 I remain open minded on the common law/freeman approach as some very valid points are raised however I do think if used a great understanding is needed of the complexity's & pitfalls to stand any chance or you will def get burned.

some interesting points raised in vid regarding business owner having complied by law  by carrying out  full mask risk assessment of the premises & threat to staff in not wearing a mask & stating no factual conclusive evidence he found in its benefit so he deemed it no risk.

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6 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Just listen to this monumental pillock? :

"well...errr....mizzterr speakuhh...Piffle-piffle-blah-blah-blahdey-blah,babble,babble,  um err, actually, connection to sweden example that err, umm, err,  is not, not quite the slam dunk that perhaps err someerrr ummm think it is mizterr speaker if you look at sweden err they don't for allow instance, err they don't umm  errr ummmmm one, they don't not quite not allow people err pupills over  15 year olds to school whilst wheras we err prioritise keeping our schools open umm mr speaker and thats the balance we strike err the whole time its the balance its a balance between keeping our economy moving as far as we can and keeping our schools open and thats hat we are trying to do"

 

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
...and this fuckwit is running our country.

 

 

 

"Sweden chose a model that might over-report COVID-19 deaths: they do not require a death certificate stating COVID-19 is the cause of death, but also count all people who die with the virus (including post-mortem testing and all residential aged care facility [RACF] deaths) as COVID-19 deaths by automatically matching the national death registry with test results. In principle, an asymptomatic young person stepping out of the testing booth and getting run over by a bus would count as a COVID-19 death." – Dr Horst Herb (GP) (original source).

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15 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Sorry couldn’t help but post this. The arrogance of this cunt is unbelievable. Like any normal person gives a toss if he dies or not.

 

The Duke of Cambridge contracted Covid-19 earlier this year, palace sources have told the BBC.

It is believed he tested positive in April at a similar time to his father, the Prince of Wales.

According to the Sun newspaper, which first reported the story, Prince William, 38, kept his diagnosis private to avoid alarming the nation.

 

Even the Telegraph don't believe it!

 

 

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@sickofallthebollocks Boris Johnson fails to mention how Sweden calculates its figures. This video from biostatistician, Martin Kulldorff is valuable when considering Johnson's comments. In light of the over-reporting of Covid deaths in Sweden, Dr Horst Herb says the following:

 

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"Considering the damage inflicted by lockdown measures, including unemployment, poverty, delayed surgical procedures, delayed cancer diagnosis, neglected chronic disease, social isolation, and increased mental health burden and suicides, the Swedes could still fare better with their policy than more restrictive countries in the long run – while preserving the civil liberties of their citizens."

 

According to the Johns Hopkins raw data, Sweden has a 4.8% case fatality ratio, but due to the way they report their cases, this is clearly inflated. Johnson won't mention these complexities however, for obvious reasons.

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On 11/1/2020 at 10:22 PM, Bombadil said:

 

Just a note on Florence police fight in video. A friend of my lady who lives there has translated what was not clearly heard. The one in charge stopped the other police from attacking the public. 

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4 hours ago, jesuitsdidit said:

Labour Party has shown its true colours.

Labour and Tory are in Lockstep on this.

It's like a ratchet, each helps the other.

 

I can pretty much say with near certainty that Labour is just as controlled as Tory. Certainly at senior level.

 

I don't know how someone like Starmer can be bought so easily. Maybe he has some penchants that we don't know about. Maybe he's just incompetent like most of them and needs a secure job?

 

Are you aware of exactly who Starmer is?  The question is how the people who voted him in as leader of the Labour Party could be bought so easily.  The man is dangerous.

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On 11/1/2020 at 4:56 PM, Bombadil said:

 

Andate indietro. Chi comanda qui. 
That’s the first bit when one is arguing with other police. Means “go back, I’m in charge here.” Chi comanda qui used in this tone is to remind the others that he is in charge.

First bit he’s saying they’re in the square. Presumably meaning the citizens protesting.

 

A CORRECTION. FRIEND OF MY LADY IN Florence heard the less audible bits. Officer in charge was actually stopping all the others from attacking the protestors.👌✌️

 

 

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1 hour ago, Alnitak said:

The only MP in the house of Commons who is not either complicit or brainwashed. If only there could be more MPs with the sense of this man, we would not been in this mess.

 

My own MP is complicit, i have asked him three times now for the false positive rate for the PCR tests. No valid response, just a copy and paste reply probably written by the generic response office.

 

 

 

Will you print the reply you received please?

We need proof of incompetence where it exists.

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UK Government planning £500 payouts to people receiving a positive result from the woeful test that results in a quarantining..

 

They don't understand viruses or even how some people's minds work.

 

An outrageous amount !

 


 I'd settle for 1p for every viral particle in my body and forego the test. :classic_smile:

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