jack121 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 19 hours ago, zArk said: The upper class want a return to the direct loan system and technological debtors prison. The current system which oneself creates the loan, so one is the creditor and debtor at the same time, is a decent system Personal loans and mortgages are the big tippers of social economics. If the money creation system is stopped and it's back to direct borrowing from other people economic division will increase. # Okay, but it's wrong in the first place to be able to create money just by tapping a few keys on a keyboard, to artifically create so much wealth and give that out to people, say in the form of a mortage, when the money was not there in the first place, not their money to give. It's wrong for them to borrow billions of dollars, then use the money to invade some oil rich country, they steal all the oil and wealth the country has, then pass on the bill to the taxpayer. It's wrong for them to spend billions of dollars on a vaccine and organising a pandemic, when we did not give them the authority to do so. No one liased with me or you and asked first if they could spend trillions of dollars of my money. They just do whatever they want, they create some lie to justify it. Charlie boy and the rest of the parasite and scrounging royals disappear off on some luxurious expensive holiday, then send me the bill, why do i have to pay other people's bills? They created this debt mountain, it is up to them to pay it They should pay their own bills, they should ask me first before spending my money, everything should be okay'ed by the people before a single move is made, britain should be run by the people in the best interests of the people - not this- not what we have here today, where people struggle to pay their mortage their bills pay for food, whereas the upper class spend billions of borrowed money and expect me to pay it all back on their behalf - it's bullshit 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, jack121 said: # Okay, but it's wrong in the first place to be able to create money just by tapping a few keys on a keyboard, to artifically create so much wealth and give that out to people, say in the form of a mortage, when the money was not there in the first place, not their money to give. It's wrong for them to borrow billions of dollars, then use the money to invade some oil rich country, they steal all the oil and wealth the country has, then pass on the bill to the taxpayer. It's wrong for them to spend billions of dollars on a vaccine and organising a pandemic, when we did not give them the authority to do so. No one liased with me or you and asked first if they could spend trillions of dollars of my money. They just do whatever they want, they create some lie to justify it. Charlie boy and the rest of the parasite and scrounging royals disappear off on some luxurious expensive holiday, then send me the bill, why do i have to pay other people's bills? They created this debt mountain, it is up to them to pay it They should pay their own bills, they should ask me first before spending my money, everything should be okay'ed by the people before a single move is made, britain should be run by the people in the best interests of the people - not this- not what we have here today, where people struggle to pay their mortage their bills pay for food, whereas the upper class spend billions of borrowed money and expect me to pay it all back on their behalf - it's bullshit If the central bank can create money from tapping a keyboard, they lend to the government, the government gets you to pay them back, I assume they then pay the central bank back. Not a bad deal for the central bankers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Mr H said: Just a co-incidence. I did have to check if there really is a Rothschild island next to Omicron, Delta and CORONAtion Island and there is! It is a coincidence, as David says, 'there's no such thing as coincidences' Try travelling to these Islands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr H said: If the central bank can create money from tapping a keyboard, they lend to the government, the government gets you to pay them back, I assume they then pay the central bank back. Not a bad deal for the central bankers! Yes but we get fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, jack121 said: but it's wrong in the first place to be able to create money just by tapping a few keys on a keyboard, to artifically create so much wealth and give that out to people, say in the form of a mortage, when the money was not there in the first place, not their money to give. i see the ethical issue but alternatively all the money , gold and silver is in the hands of the rich and the debtors prison was a horrific system they want this system back , with a tech update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mr H said: If the central bank can create money from tapping a keyboard, they lend to the government, the government gets you to pay them back, I assume they then pay the central bank back. Not a bad deal for the central bankers! theres a big difference between bond creation and interest but no, the bond and loans are paid off the central bankers do not lend anything. imo usury is the problem, not the money creation system Edited January 3, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr H said: If the central bank can create money from tapping a keyboard, they lend to the government, the government gets you to pay them back, I assume they then pay the central bank back. Not a bad deal for the central bankers! The big problem is that there will never be enough money to repay the central bank. In exchange for the fictional money the government gives the central bank a treasury note. For example, if the government needs $100 to go and kill some Iraqi kids it will give the central bankers a 10% T Note. This is a promise to repay $110. But there is only $100 in circulation. It has created a debt that can never be repaid. It was the biggest scam in history. Until the Kung Flu cam along. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, zArk said: theres a big difference between bond creation and interest imo usury is the problem, not the money creation system It's money creation. It is the cruelest way of robbing people. Inflation is not uniform. The first people to get the new money have full purchasing power. By the time the money makes its way through the economy it has lost its purchasing power. The impacts are felt the greatest by people with savings. Which is usually retirees. The banksters are stealing from them without them even noticing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, jack121 said: They should pay their own bills, they should ask me first before spending my money, everything should be okay'ed by the people before a single move is made Parliament or the Congress have a mandate from the people People grant Parliament limited powers for a limited time. It is all ok'd by the voting public. They vote for a representative, a minister, to argue the toss (which in itself is controlled and manipulated) Direct democracy as appealing as it may seem would, in these last couple of years, be horrific. Imagine a public vote on mask mandates, jab mandate, rights, freedom etc with 66.6% + of the public completely on the side of communism and the greater good, it would be even worse for us right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: It's money creation. It is the cruelest way of robbing people. whats the alternative? to be clear, one alternative is being rolled out right now. the technocrats and establishment will own all money and it will be dolled out to the public if they are good and behave themselves. there will be no more loans, no more mortgages, no more ownership of property for joe public we will be subordinate to the money masters with no way to break out of technological serfdom Edited January 3, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, zArk said: whats the alternative? Get rid of fiat currency. Get rid of fractional reserve banking. Where banks can lend the same money out over and over again. Return to the gold standard. That is every note is backed by something of value. But bank's and government's powers to manipulate the currency have been removed. The clot shots in most countries are funded by governments. Given that all these governments are already in debt the money paid to Big Pharma will need to be borrowed. I suspect that the numbers of people lining up to take the clot shot would go down dramatically if they had to pay for it themselves. There really would be a rebellion if government mandated that you have a clot shot and pay a couple of hundred dollars for the privilege. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: The clot shots in most countries are funded by governments. true but the majority of people support the spending. gold standard wouldnt change this. but hey, i will underscore this as a conversation maybe for another thread i am sure the NWO money system will be 'back to serfdom with a technological twist ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, alexa said: It is a coincidence, as David says, 'there's no such thing as coincidences' Try travelling to these Islands. Rothchild island. Bet it's like Epstein island! I did actually once upon a time go to the Rothchild Chateux to stop for wine and nibbles when I did the marathon du medoc years ago. Nice gaff! If I'd known what I know now, I would have taken a shit in his pool for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, zArk said: true but the majority of people support the spending. gold standard wouldnt change this. but hey, i will underscore this as a conversation maybe for another thread i am sure the NWO money system will be 'back to serfdom with a technological twist ' I think another thread is a good suggestion. We will certainly be back to serfdom. I suspect that the plan is for a medical tyranny. Those that do survive the clot shot will have no immune system left. So even though Big Pharma will have zero credibility the public will have no choice but to take a regular booster just to prevent illness and stay alive. This will all be linked into a Chinese social credit system where you will be banned from society (travel, work, entertainment or the pharmaceuticals required to keep you alive) just for merely thinking an unwelcome thought. The good news is that the wheels are beginning to fall off this thing. The bad news is the false flag that's coming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieboy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) History and Future of our DNA! why is the cabal panicking to rush their agenda?! Are we going to get a upgrade of our DNA from the same source we got our DNA upgrade millions of years ago? will we be getting super powers ( higher level of consciousness / new Dimension) This could explain why the elite are panicking ! They want to block us getting this upgrade by Jabbing us with their control system! If you have watched the series Ancient Aliens it makes sense ! I‘Ve been to Peru and have seen the Nasca lines and been to other places around the world (pyramids stone circles etc ) and I believe we have been misled through out history of who we really are! this video explains what happend millions of years ago and it could be coming again! One more reason to refuse the Jab! Edited January 3, 2022 by Frankieboy 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinky077 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 17 hours ago, noo62 said: Can someone please help me out here. I was explaining to my sis why I dont want to take the vaccine when everyone else in the family has. One of the reasons I said was Pfizer wont even say what is in their vaccine, which I thought was 100% the case. She has sent me a link to the Governement site which shows all the ingredients in the pfizer vaccine. Why did I think they didnt have to reveal what was in the vaccine for 50 years? Watch event 201 the start of the bull shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spideysensei Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Is it just me, or are the Dutch police demonstrably more heavy handed than other countries? Didn't they kill a protester recently with a rubber bullet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieboy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, spideysensei said: Is it just me, or are the Dutch police demonstrably more heavy handed than other countries? Didn't they kill a protester recently with a rubber bullet? they are not all police there are alot of special forces ! Edited January 3, 2022 by Frankieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frankieboy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Thailand pays first 8470 claims for damages due to COVID-19 vaccine‼ ️ The Thai government is providing around $ 30 billion to compensate people who have suffered side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine in the past few months, the southeastern country's National Health Security Office (NHSO) reports. So far, 8,470 of a total of 11,707 applicants have been compensated, reports Atthaporn Limpanyalet, Deputy Secretary General of the NHSO. The NHSO divides claims for COVID-19 vaccine violations into three categories, including: - Mild to moderate side effects - Temporary paralysis and / or loss of other body functions - Permanent paralysis or death 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankieboy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Vaccinated pilot reveals: "There are pilots who go to work with oppressive chest pain" "I went to the emergency room and they quickly put me on EKG drips, got a blood count, and found I had atrial fibrillation. This is the main cause of a stroke." I could have had a stroke trying to land a plane 100 feet. I could have just hit the stick before the person next to me could do anything. For many people, however, it's over. " "There are a number of pilots out there who don't dare speak up ... they fear retaliation. There are people who go to work with aching chest and head pains. They are afraid that they will have to end their careers. " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 hours ago, zArk said: but no, the bond and loans are paid off the central bankers do not lend anything. Could you expand a little on this please? I always thought the CB, issued bonds backed by nothing. In return for payment. Then they use that money to purchase securities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimonTV Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: The big problem is that there will never be enough money to repay the central bank. In exchange for the fictional money the government gives the central bank a treasury note. For example, if the government needs $100 to go and kill some Iraqi kids it will give the central bankers a 10% T Note. This is a promise to repay $110. But there is only $100 in circulation. It has created a debt that can never be repaid. It was the biggest scam in history. Until the Kung Flu cam along. The government owes money and pays interest on it. Who does the interest payments go to? Is it the private share holders of the central banks? the rich old families, their names can be found on the original share offering documents of the bank of England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, zArk said: whats the alternative? to be clear, one alternative is being rolled out right now. the technocrats and establishment will own all money and it will be dolled out to the public if they are good and behave themselves. there will be no more loans, no more mortgages, no more ownership of property for joe public we will be subordinate to the money masters with no way to break out of technological serfdom Imagine all people resist and took down those responsible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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