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6 hours ago, wingwang said:

 

I saw this earlier. The look on that terrible woman's face was priceless. She was desperate to be First Lady but now realises that instead of sharing in Joe's glory she shares in his shame.

 

She is the most famous wife of a moronic clown in the known universe and her face screamed that fact.

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12 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

In keeping with your race baiting theme it is interesting young people associate Santa with Odin. As you say, it is easy to blame a lot of the world's injustices on white man so why not lump Nazi ideology in and associate Santa with these white gods. 

 

Of course it is completely wrong.

 

Yes, Nordic mythology played a big part in Nazi ideology but that is not where Santa came from.

 

Santa is based on the Roman god Saturn. Saturn lives at the North Pole, is associated with an evergreen and each year promises the gift of spring.

 

Santa - Satan.

 

St Nicholas - Old Nick.

 

Father Christmas - Father Time. AKA Chronos, the Greek version. Also the Grim Reaper.

 

I would submit that Saturnalia played a bigger part in Nazi ideology than German myths. German folklore was largely put out for public consumption. But a lot of Nazi symbolism comes ancient Rome or is associated with Saturnalia.

 

On the SS cap we see the Roman Eagle and the Swastika. As you know, the Swastika is an ancient sun symbol. In the Nazi version it is black. The Black Sun. Saturn.

 

I think it was Himmler who wanted to make Christmas a longer festival (and the main celebration) in the German calendar. Of course, the timing was to coincide with the Roman festival of Saturnalia.

 

Saturnalia is the underlying philosophy behind a lot of the globalist agenda.

 

Take the former USSR flag. The hammer and sickle. This wasn't some tribute to the farmers and the workers. The sickle is associated with Chronos/Saturn. The symbology represents remaking the world in the image of Saturn.

 

The same symbology is seen in the Fabian Society. The globe is being hammered and reshaped. The Fabian Society produced Tony Blair. If I recall Ardern also went through there.

 

I think you posted earlier about the globalists being intent on self preservation. And I do not disagree with that overall. There may be one or two exceptions.

 

However, whatever is ultimately behind this just wants to destroy. And if you play with fire ...

 

Anyway, Saturnalia is the underlying philosophy behind those pushing the clot shot. Whether they are aware of it or not.

 

 

Yawn, driven by the Holy roman empire, I wasn't yawning at you, just had my lunch.

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48 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

In keeping with your race baiting theme it is interesting young people associate Santa with Odin. As you say, it is easy to blame a lot of the world's injustices on white man so why not lump Nazi ideology in and associate Santa with these white gods. 

 

Of course it is completely wrong.

 

what have the nazis got to do with my point? I never said anything about the nazis

 

I'm not wrong. We have a heritage relating to the norse and germanic gods and festivals. The anglo saxons and norse people were not celebrating saturnalia. They had their own festival of yule

 

Has yule since been remoulded into a more saturnalian festival? That would be a different argument

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 The second thing they are doing is breeding resentment by pushing identarianism and grievance politics through things like critical race theory so that they basically teach non white people to automatically blame white people for anything wrong in their life.

 

I saw a clip of some black ladies on social media (probably on RT or the daily mail but i can't remember) saying that crime was a white creation to keep black people down!

 

But if we rewind in europe to before black people arrived we had the law because it was always understood that it is morally wrong to steal, murder and rape

 

These things weren't criminalised to penalise black people. The one area in which i would agree with them is with the criminalisation of marijuana and in the US it could be argued that does disproportionately affect black people but on the other hand it is being legalised so....

 

But what else would they want decriminalised exactly? The marxists will always find something to complain about until they achieve their objective of destroying society so that it may be remoulded into a centrally controlled nightmare with the rothschild-cabal holding total power over everyone

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The U.S. Marine Corps has discharged another 69 men for refusing to take the shot. According to RT, 169 marines have been booted out. The regular strength of the USMC is about 170,000, give or take so the numbers aren't great. The other branches of the US military have - it is alleged, a 98% vaccination rate but the USMC is some way below that. Is there a mandate in place for the British armed forces? Anyone know?

 

https://www.rt.com/news/544343-us-marines-vaccine-mandate/

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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

what have the nazis got to do with my point? I never said anything about the nazis

 

I'm not wrong. We have a heritage relating to the norse and germanic gods and festivals. The anglo saxons and norse people were not celebrating saturnalia. They had their own festival of yule

 

Has yule since been remoulded into a more saturnalian festival? That would be a different argument

I quoted the relevant part:

 

"Then the mail ran a race-baiting piece saying that a poll of young people in britain (from where exactly) have said that santa shouldn't be straight, white or male but santa is based on Odin who was a nordic god and therefore straight, white and male."

 

Clearly I was referring to the Mail's take on things. And the survey.

 

I never said that you did mention the Nazis. 

 

My point was that the attribution of Santa to Wotan/Odin is wrong. I don't think it was a point made by you. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

The race card is played all the time in all kinds of ways and unfortunately that is only going to become more frequent until it becomes a constant din because the fake-left (controlled by the rothschild cabal) is doing two things that are going to send race consciousness (people thinking only in terms of race) stratospheric

 

The first thing they are doing is flooding non white people into the west. This is changing the demographics so that there are many people who now don't relate to the native culture. The second thing they are doing is breeding resentment by pushing identarianism and grievance politics through things like critical race theory so that they basically teach non white people to automatically blame white people for anything wrong in their life.

 

Then there's all this emerging vaccine discrimination that's emerging where the medicated are being played off against the unmedicated. 

 

It's obvious that there's an agenda being driven by the fake-left, which is then being reacted to by the extreme right. It's in plain sight. Ying and Yang - The thing is not to get involved. Don't play the race card, and don't play identity politics with skin colour. People who feel that they're the victim play grievance politics. It becomes a blame game where some blacks and whites blame each other. Don't have to get involved. See things from a spiritual perspective and harness all that energy that would otherwise go down the drain with grievances, into self-improvement, and personal empowerment.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

There are so many ways in which this new climate of anti-whiteism treats white people differently and many of them are subtle but pervasive for example i scanned the daily mails headlines today and there was a lady who served in the british army but was of asian descent and she was doing a walk in the antarctic and said that she hoped that her efforts would inspire other asian women

 

So she is not thinking in terms of helping all humanity. She is thinking in terms of her own narrow identity group, which is exactly what identarianism encourages people to do and its not just a race issue. I've heard women saying the same about inspiring women (as if boys and men don't need to be inspired too) and i've heard gay people do the same.

 

Yes, it's not just coloured people who play at 'identarianism'... gays and women activists too, but not all gays and not all women get tangled up in that illusion, and if some white people start doing it, how can they be any better than those they criticise? The whole thing becomes very hypocritical and a waste of energy. In my experience, the majority of people aren't like that, which is important to remember.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

If however a white person was doing an endurance walk and said they wanted to inspire other white people they would be called a 'racist'.

 

We are treated differently all the time and the reason for this is very simple: the people masterminding all of this despise us and are working overtime to replace

 

I agree that if a white person was doing an endurance walk and said they wanted to inspire other white people they would be called 'racist', and of course, that can prompt some white people to say, 'that's not fair'. The answer to the question, 'why are we being treated differently?' is what's been described above. It's identity and grievance politics. Some white people feel grieved, and some start playing the same game and using the same tactics: 'if they can do it, why can't we?' - playing the race card and playing identity politics, and as already noted, it's not just some gays, and women that do that, coloured people do that to, they say: 'if they can do that, why can't we?' - Some coloured people would say, 'If white people can do endurance walks with the intention of wanting to inspire other white people, then what we're doing isn't wrong!' - - And so it goes on, each side blaming the other.

 

An alternative would be to let everybody go on skin colour identity walks, but what a silly world that would be, and again, it's only a minority in all groups that want 'identarianism'. Most people don't want that and don't want to get involved in it.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

Army captain who is conquering the South Pole on her own says she was too scared to go on training walks around her London park at night after Sarah Everard's kidnap and murder

  • Derby-born Army physiotherapist plans to launch fund for female adventurers
  • British-born Sikh also hopes to inspire other Asian women with her historic feat 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10239431/Army-captain-walking-South-Pole-scared-train-outside-night-Sarah-Everard-case.html

Then the mail ran a race-baiting piece saying that a poll of young people in britain (from where exactly) have said that santa shouldn't be straight, white or male but santa is based on Odin who was a nordic god and therefore straight, white and male. So why should we constantly have our icons and symbols blackwashed and gaywashed? I don't see that being done to anyone else

 

Life is full of irritating people. There's not much that can be done about that apart from managing our own reaction. From my experience, the more one focuses on irritating people, the more irritated one becomes. I always try to find a balance, and apply the brakes so that I don't slip and slide into becoming what I hate. Those that don't manage, get embroiled in identity and grievance politics. Ying and Yang reactions.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

and all of this won't stop either because the agenda is to ethnocide us so the pressure is only going to grow and grow as immigration grows and as fake-left politics grow. It is basically going to create a tsunami of racism against white people

 

Things could get totally out of hand, and whole societies, nations and all of humanity could get engulfed by it all. The only winners would be those with a lot of money that can afford to live in their own secluded and gated enclaves, leaving everyone else at each other's throats.

 

We are in the end game. Is there a way through? I believe there is, but each person has to take responsibility for their own reality and make their own path. "Unless these days are shortened, no one will survive."

 

The biggest challenge is going to be health discrimination. What a cocktail of toxic divide and conquer techniques. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I saw a clip of some black ladies on social media (probably on RT or the daily mail but i can't remember) saying that crime was a white creation to keep black people down!

 

What a silly claim that black woman is making, but people like that really are a tiny minority and should just be ignored. Highlighting people like that only makes silly people think that all blacks are like that. Arguing with silly people only drags more silly people into the fray, and it culminates with one becoming what one hates. That's the danger of arguing with silly people.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

The U.S. Marine Corps has discharged another 69 men for refusing to take the shot. According to RT, 169 marines have been booted out. The regular strength of the USMC is about 170,000, give or take so the numbers aren't great. The other branches of the US military have - it is alleged, a 98% vaccination rate but the USMC is some way below that. Is there a mandate in place for the British armed forces? Anyone know?

 

https://www.rt.com/news/544343-us-marines-vaccine-mandate/

This has to be intentional.

 

To weaken the US Military and its preparedness.

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1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Clearly I was referring to the Mail's take on things. And the survey.

 

the mail didn't say anything about odin. It was me saying that father christmas has evolved from odin

 

1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said:

My point was that the attribution of Santa to Wotan/Odin is wrong. I don't think it was a point made by you.

 

I don't believe it is wrong and there is no point posting a photo with father christmas next to some nazis because christmas and yule pre-dates the nazis so the nazis have nothing to do with this

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Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus are the same person.....


It's hard to know how much of an authentic pre-Christian identity there can be behind Father Christmas.

 

Odin apparently did ride a magical horse as opposed to a reindeer, with eight legs called Sleipnir which means ‘The Sliding One’ because he slides across the sky at Yuletide and gives gifts to all the good children.

 

I think it must be a case that Father Christmas and Christmas itself if an amalgam of Saturnalia and Yule....there's very little of Christianity to it really, and saying Jesus was born on 25th December is just an attempt to join the party.....

 

Doesn't bother me. Christmas is still great.

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1 hour ago, RobSS said:

Then there's all this emerging vaccine discrimination that's emerging where the medicated are being played off against the unmedicated. 

 

Yes and everytime they create a division they falsely try to claim some sort of higher moral ground as if they are somehow morally superior. For example with this covid jab thing they will say that if you don't want the jab you are 'anti-science' as if they hold the final word on all things science related! The science is never settled because science is a method of enquiry not a belief system

 

If you are against unchecked immigration they will call you a 'racist'

 

If you are against drag queen story hour they will call you a 'transphobe'

 

If you draw attention to the role of powerful sabbatean jews in the conspiracy then they will call you an 'anti-semite'

 

And yet THEY are the evil ones screwing with everyone. THEY are the extremists. I'm not doing anything to anyone

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

It's obvious that there's an agenda being driven by the fake-left, which is then being reacted to by the extreme right. It's in plain sight.

 

No not just the extreme right. All this woke stuff is pissing off all kinds of people not just people at any kind of extreme

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

Ying and Yang - The thing is not to get involved. Don't play the race card, and don't play identity politics with skin colour. People who feel that they're the victim play grievance politics. It becomes a blame game where some blacks and whites blame each other. Don't have to get involved. See things from a spiritual perspective and harness all that energy that would otherwise go down the drain with grievances, into self-improvement, and personal empowerment.

 

Its not as simple as that. You can work on your own consciousness as much as you like and you can polish your heart as much as you like but if the cabal flood people into your land and then turn them against you it won't matter how high a state of consciousness you are in you will still live with the karma of that process playing out because the correct policy decisions were not made

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

Yes, it's not just coloured people who play at 'identarianism'... gays and women activists too, but not all gays and not all women get tangled up in that illusion, and if some white people start doing it, how can they be any better than those they criticise? The whole thing becomes very hypocritical and a waste of energy. In my experience, the majority of people aren't like that, which is important to remember.

 

I'm not sure that you are right about the majority of people in the sense that i think the majority of people do want to keep their own culture and language and customs and values and 'multi-culturalism' is the belief that you can throw together people from all around the world and expect them to all join hands and sing kumbaya

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

It's identity and grievance politics.

 

the cabal have got this ball rolling and it is gathering momentum.

 

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

Life is full of irritating people.

 

I'm not talking about being irritated. I'm talking about being replaced

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

Yes and everytime they create a division they falsely try to claim some sort of higher moral ground as if they are somehow morally superior. For example with this covid jab thing they will say that if you don't want the jab you are 'anti-science' as if they hold the final word on all things science related! The science is never settled because science is a method of enquiry not a belief system

 

 

This is about the vaccine, so it's okay to comment on this here. The vaccine seems to be the last card they have to play before finally introducing health passports and a digital ID system. If the latter comes about, then it's the end of life as we knew it. In the meantime, some original thinking is required. Complaining is valid, but I've got ideas that could lead to a solution that I've mentioned in the threads about Parsifal.

 

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

If you are against unchecked immigration they will call you a 'racist'

 

If you are against drag queen story hour they will call you a 'transphobe'

 

If you draw attention to the role of powerful sabbatean jews in the conspiracy then they will call you an 'anti-semite'

 

And yet THEY are the evil ones screwing with everyone

 

 

No not just the extreme right. All this woke stuff is pissing off all kinds of people not just people at any kind of extreme

 

 

Its not as simple as that. You can work on your own consciousness as much as you like and you can polish your heart as much as you like but if the cabal flood people into your land and then turn them against you it won't matter how high a state of consciousness you are in you will still live with the karma of that process playing out because the correct policy decisions were not made

 

 

I'm not sure that you are right about the majority of people in the sense that i think the majority of people do want to keep their own culture and language and customs and values and 'multi-culturalism' is the belief that you can throw together people from all around the world and expect them to all join hands and sing kumbaya

 

 

the cabal have got this ball rolling and it is gathering momentum.

 

 

I'm not talking about being irritated. I'm talking about being replaced

 

All this is better discussed in a different part of the forum.

 

 

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2 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

In keeping with your race baiting theme it is interesting young people associate Santa with Odin. As you say, it is easy to blame a lot of the world's injustices on white man so why not lump Nazi ideology in and associate Santa with these white gods. 

 

Of course it is completely wrong.

 

Yes, Nordic mythology played a big part in Nazi ideology but that is not where Santa came from.

 

Santa is based on the Roman god Saturn. Saturn lives at the North Pole, is associated with an evergreen and each year promises the gift of spring.

 

Santa - Satan.

 

St Nicholas - Old Nick.

 

Father Christmas - Father Time. AKA Chronos, the Greek version. Also the Grim Reaper.

 

I would submit that Saturnalia played a bigger part in Nazi ideology than German myths. German folklore was largely put out for public consumption. But a lot of Nazi symbolism comes ancient Rome or is associated with Saturnalia.

 

On the SS cap we see the Roman Eagle and the Swastika. As you know, the Swastika is an ancient sun symbol. In the Nazi version it is black. The Black Sun. Saturn.

 

I think it was Himmler who wanted to make Christmas a longer festival (and the main celebration) in the German calendar. Of course, the timing was to coincide with the Roman festival of Saturnalia.

 

Saturnalia is the underlying philosophy behind a lot of the globalist agenda.

 

Take the former USSR flag. The hammer and sickle. This wasn't some tribute to the farmers and the workers. The sickle is associated with Chronos/Saturn. The symbology represents remaking the world in the image of Saturn.

 

The same symbology is seen in the Fabian Society. The globe is being hammered and reshaped. The Fabian Society produced Tony Blair. If I recall Ardern also went through there.

 

I think you posted earlier about the globalists being intent on self preservation. And I do not disagree with that overall. There may be one or two exceptions.

 

However, whatever is ultimately behind this just wants to destroy. And if you play with fire ...

 

Anyway, Saturnalia is the underlying philosophy behind those pushing the clot shot. Whether they are aware of it or not.

 

 

Tiny correction the SS cap bore a totenkopf or deaths head all the other branches of the Nazi war machine wore the eagle

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

Like Jack said, I wonder why they are using people of a certain ethnicity ?

Probably the same reason we suddenly see black actors in everything, because their answer to BLM is put them up as part of the establishment, it makes sense. Saying 40% are not vaxxed just shows they don't feel in anyway part of the establishment. 

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3 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

What a silly claim that black woman is making, but people like that really are a tiny minority and should just be ignored. Highlighting people like that only makes silly people think that all blacks are like that. Arguing with silly people only drags more silly people into the fray, and it culminates with one becoming what one hates. That's the danger of arguing with silly people.

 

 

 

This sounds like Peter Hitchens talk.

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7 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

This sounds like Peter Hitchens talk.

 

I've never heard him talk on the subject, and I don't know why you appear to disagree, but if you want to discuss it, I don't mind discussing in a different part of the forum.

 

 

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