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16 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

Slavery never ended they just changed the mechanism of control

They can take from you anything they wish, because without knowing it you have consented, freedom of the mind is the last bastion of freedom, without control of that, they can never totally win. 

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6 hours ago, Morpheus said:

I don't understand it personally and how so many supposedly intelligent people have fallen for this bull shit. 

 

it has to be a form of GROUPTHINK at work:

 

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.[2][3]

Groupthink is a construct of social psychology, but has an extensive reach and influences literature in the fields of communication studies, political science, management, and organizational theory,[4] as well as important aspects of deviant religious cult behaviour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

 

so to all those who have resisted the group think i salute you!

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On 12/24/2021 at 7:22 AM, campanar said:

Just do away with the vaccine requirement, just require the negative test.... that's the logical answer to that rubbish. 

The problem is that there is still some nasty stuff in the tests.

 

Apparently, there are nanoparticles that can cross the blood brain barrier. That is why they push the swab that far up.

 

Despite there being enough viral load in the nostrils. If you believe in viruses that is.

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22 hours ago, JJ73 said:

 

I had an interesting thing happen earlier. One of the very few people who still speaks to us, arrived on our doorstep with Christmas cards and she was wearing a mask. She is fully jabbed and boostered. I came to the door unmasked.

 

She said "Aren't you worried about catching it?"

 

The next time I find myself in a similar situation I think I am just going to troll.

 

For example.

 

She said "Aren't you worried about catching it?"

"Catching what?"

"The Kung Flu of course."

"What's that then?"

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On 12/24/2021 at 12:28 AM, SimonTV said:

https://vidmax.com/video/209654-epic-large-group-stand-in-front-of-cafe-that-doesn-t-ask-for-vax-pass-in-australia-blocking-police-from-fining-them

 

Large Group Stand In Front Of Cafe That Doesn't Ask For Vax Pass In Australia, Blocking Police From Fining Them

 

Love it, especially the big guy at the front with the t-shirt: Tyranny response team. Brilliant

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11 hours ago, webtrekker said:

Larest from PJH Law. Looks like a no-go ...

 

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The fact that it has been moved to security and defence will allow the government to avoid certain disclosure obligations and conceal documents.

 

Personally, I don't think this is going anywhere.

 

The decision to prosecute is not with the police. It is with the Crown Prosecution Service.

 

I really hope that I am wrong.

 

The only way I can see anything happening is to bring a private prosecution. Not easy to do. As we saw in Melbourne.

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9 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

Sorry this is not against you but I'd say FUCK political correctness. One has to tiptoe not to offend anyone when expressing your opinion or your thoughts. I respect black people. I learn a lot from them. Anyway, say what you like....is the answer. My comments was not racially motivated.....can I not ever talk about melanin then?

 

Don't forget there are also varying degree of shades in between black n white. It's not all about white people.

 

I'm white. A very good friend of mine is black.

 

We were debating something one day. Not arguing, but a proper debate. I can't even recall what it was.

 

Anyway, he decided to play the race card and recite an example of when he suffered racial prejudice. His experience was a genuine one.

 

He didn't expect my reply.

 

"I really don't care. If you think you can play the race card to make me feel guilty for something that I didn't do you're talking to the wrong person."

 

Anyway, it didn't affect our friendship at all.

 

I think he appreciated my honestly.

 

He also knows that I am not interested in political correctness.

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2 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I'm white. A very good friend of mine is black.

 

We were debating something one day. Not arguing, but a proper debate. I can't even recall what it was.

 

Anyway, he decided to play the race card and recite an example of when he suffered racial prejudice. His experience was a genuine one.

 

He didn't expect my reply.

 

"I really don't care. If you think you can play the race card to make me feel guilty for something that I didn't do you're talking to the wrong person."

 

Anyway, it didn't affect our friendship at all.

 

I think he appreciated my honestly.

 

He also knows that I am not interested in political correctness.

 

Why was your friend playing the race card on you?

 

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Why was your friend playing the race card on you?

 

 

It was quite a few years ago now.

 

I wish I could remember the main topic of discussion.

 

I don't think he meant to. I think it was more a case of choosing a really bad example. But what he brought up was nothing to do with the topic of discussion

 

He is a very smart bloke and a very successful businessman. He recounted his experience when he was auditing a country club in the US. If I recall, there was a complaint and a request he not be on the audit team. Or something very similar.

 

But our conversation wasn't heated and he wasn't accusing me of anything. If that's what you wondering.

 

We live in different countries now but we still catch up on the phone regularly. Talk for a few hours.

 

He used to think that my views were quite mad. Avid CNN watcher. But the more that he is witnessing the more he is coming around. And he can certainly see it now.

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12 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

It was quite a few years ago now.

 

I wish I could remember the main topic of discussion.

 

I don't think he meant to. I think it was more a case of choosing a really bad example. But what he brought up was nothing to do with the topic of discussion

 

He is a very smart bloke and a very successful businessman. He recounted his experience when he was auditing a country club in the US. If I recall, there was a complaint and a request he not be on the audit team. Or something very similar.

 

But our conversation wasn't heated and he wasn't accusing me of anything. If that's what you wondering.

 

We live in different countries now but we still catch up on the phone regularly. Talk for a few hours.

 

He used to think that my views were quite mad. Avid CNN watcher. But the more that he is witnessing the more he is coming around. And he can certainly see it now.

 

It sounds like he was trying to make you feel a bit guilty for the way he was treated, but it seems like it was a trivial matter.

 

Some people here complain about discrimination against white people. IMO, all discrimination is bad, otherwise, how could one object to vaccine mandates, which are discriminating against healthy people?

 

 

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23 hours ago, JJ73 said:

 

I had an interesting thing happen earlier. One of the very few people who still speaks to us, arrived on our doorstep with Christmas cards and she was wearing a mask. She is fully jabbed and boostered. I came to the door unmasked.

 

She said "Aren't you worried about catching it?"

I replied "You're wearing a mask. How can I catch it?"

She said "I can still spread it and because you haven't been jabbed you could become ill."

I replied "The Omicron variant is very mild. I'd rather just catch it and then I will develop the antibodies to it."

"Well, I don't want it" she said.

I replied "Yeah, but you won't get the symptoms I would because you've been jabbed."

"Well, I think you're being selfish" came the response.

 

When I hear the word 'selfish' now I react pretty much as I do when I hear the words 'conspiracy theorist.' I know I am dealing with an imbecile. She then went on about her and husband and how they take lateral flow tests. I didn't say any more about it. I just looked pityingly at this person. Fully jabbed, masked and taking lateral flow tests when they hardly go out and aren't in a supposedly vulnerable group. It's pathetic behaviour.

 

I then showed her the various stories of people in the mainstream media who have died of blood clots and the like directly relating to the jabs themselves. She had told me much earlier in this that if it isn't being reported on MSM then she found that highly dubious. Coincidentally, my unpleasant neighbour feels that as well. As I showed her, I watched as she visibly turned her head away and stubbornly refused to view the stories. Now, I don't know what that indicates but I was aware that I was in the presence of a very stupid person. Shortly thereafter, she left and I watched her scuttle back to her car. I have known this person forever yet I don't recognise her anymore. 

 

I made a thread on this showing why people worship the tv, may be helpful to understand why they behave so and also ideas on how to counter it.

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24095-bj-and-msm-collaborate-to-brainwash-the-sheep-further-quiz-photo-emerges/

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

It sounds like he was trying to make you feel a bit guilty for the way he was treated, but it seems like it was a trivial matter.

 

Some people here complain about discrimination against white people. IMO, all discrimination is bad, otherwise, how could one object to vaccine mandates, which are discriminating against healthy people?

 

 

I suspect, that at the time, he was just lacking an understanding of logic to formulate a good argument.

 

If I recall (and even if I am wrong this is how I am going to recount it as he is not here to correct me 😉) I was making better points. He had probably seen this sort of stuff on CNN or other cable news networks and thought it was a good argument.

 

I don't think he was trying to make me feel guilty.

 

At the time I remember making the point as to underline fallacious reasoning. I probably should have made that clearer in my original post.

 

Just to be completely pedantic I would say that not all discrimination is bad.

 

People discriminate all the time.

 

Most men prefer a hot looking slim girl over some NZ horse tyrant.

 

If you have a high IQ you're going to prefer the company of like minded thinkers.

 

Discrimination is bad when it is based on completely irrational or absurd foundations. Like the color of someone's skin.

 

Clot shot status is certainly an absurd foundation.

 

 

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7 hours ago, alexa said:

 

A greasy old spoon, that's my cup of tea :classic_biggrin:

 

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It's all the same food, you just pay more for the name, like gordon ramsey who made tv program after tv program attacking restaurants for using frozen foods, not puting enough effort in, warming supermarket products up in a microwave, then it came out all ramsey's food was outsourced from a catering establishment, same with jamie oliver.

Might as well go to the local place and chill out with the honest working class people

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5 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I suspect, that at the time, he was just lacking an understanding of logic to formulate a good argument.

 

If I recall (and even if I am wrong this is how I am going to recount it as he is not here to correct me 😉) I was making better points. He had probably seen this sort of stuff on CNN or other cable news networks and thought it was a good argument.

 

I don't think he was trying to make me feel guilty.

 

At the time I remember making the point as to underline fallacious reasoning. I probably should have made that clearer in my original post.

 

Just to be completely pedantic I would say that not all discrimination is bad.

 

People discriminate all the time.

 

Most men prefer a hot looking slim girl over some NZ horse tyrant.

 

If you have a high IQ you're going to prefer the company of like minded thinkers.

 

Discrimination is bad when it is based on completely irrational or absurd foundations. Like the color of someone's skin.

 

Clot shot status is certainly an absurd foundation.

 

 

 

Always found the coloured peeps are more reasonable change their minds easier, white people are so entrenched in their views i have to shake my head and walk away.

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3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

the trans atlantic slave trade is a small slice of history. For a large part of history people of all skin colours including white people were being traded as slaves

 

It was, in the end, white people who made the most effort to end the slave trade

This is true.

 

If I recall the first slave owner in the US was a black man.

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3 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Discrimination is bad when it is based on completely irrational or absurd foundations. Like the color of someone's skin.

 

Completely agree. It's such a waste of energy that could be used on self-improvement, but playing the race card and making people feel guilty is wrong. Both black and white people play the race card, but thankfully, they're a minority. They're the type of people that like manipulating others, and they often use all kinds of tactics, and will even manipulate their friends. If either a black or white person tries to make me feel guilty for something I don't do, they can think again if they expect me to be politically correct, too!

 

3 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

Clot shot status is certainly an absurd foundation.

 

 

Discrimination might be a huge issue in 2022. It already is in other countries.If the government introduces vaccine mandates in the UK, one will have to be mindful not to make vaccinated people feel guilty, if they aren't in favour of vaccine mandates.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Then how do you explain the high number of nurses having miscarriages after working around the clotted?

 

 How do you know thats even true, and not just more propaganda to spread fear? Do you personally know anyone this has happened too? Were they jabbed themselves?

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Completely agree. It's such a waste of energy that could be used on self-improvement, but playing the race card and making people feel guilty is wrong. Both black and white people play the race card, but thankfully, they're a minority. They're the type of people that like manipulating others, and they often use all kinds of tactics, and will even manipulate their friends. If either a black or white person tries to make me feel guilty for something I don't do, they can think again if they expect me to be politically correct, too!

 

You won't get any argument from me.

 

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

 

Discrimination might be a huge issue in 2022. It already is in other countries.If the government introduces vaccine mandates in the UK, one will have to be mindful not to make vaccinated people feel guilty, if they aren't in favour of vaccine mandates.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, I think that is just over the horizon.

 

I have been thinking about all the nonsense being spouted about the number of people taking the clot shots. It is a completely exaggerated figure.

 

I suspect that one of the reasons behind it is to create a wedge.

 

The narrative to the clotted will be that there are only a few unreasonable and irrational people standing between you returning to a normal life.

 

They are to blame for all your woes.

 

A bit like how the Nazis blamed the Jews for Germany's problems.

 

You gotta have a villain. Or it won't work.

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