SoundOfSilence Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Useyournous said: Just feel sorry for the vet who has to file down her teeth with a rasp. You'd need a bastard! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JJ73 said: Wow. Does that mean these stories are placed there purely to plant fear and have no veracity? Yep. A fiction created by a deep state algorithm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, SoundOfSilence said: Yep. A fiction created by a deep state algorithm. Wow! I was going to ask, why don't people in those places come forward and say these stories aren't real? Why would they risk it? Mainstream media wouldn't cover it. The police and local authorities would know who the person/people were. It wouldn't be worth their while. I have just seen this link. I don't know how true it is but the notes underneath the video seem plausible enough. https://rumble.com/vpot5p-dr.-david-martin-who-they-are-the-names-and-faces-of-the-people-who-are-kil.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Not downplaying the significance of 33. I just threw it into a search engine while writing this. Is AI writing news articles? It could be, I don't know, anything is possible these days. I love the '33' thread on here https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/15041-33/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 hours ago, skitzorat said: NZ has the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) and operates out of this spy base that's part of the 5-eyes. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-consider-fresh-charges-against-spy-base-attackers-photos/G5STWAKKXSSLG2MMLN3AFQ6M3E/ NZ doesn't have f-all actual hard military - like nothing.. Australia does- I don't think NZ has the resources to commit to a full on 77-brigade agency, wouldn't surprise me if Aussie did though. However in saying that, we have for some time now had the strictest internet regulations even before the covid era. For example about a decade ago they bought in laws to make it completely illegal to download anything from the internet, (think Kim Dotcom or when game of thrones first came out) and they somehow had the ability to know if you did and your internet provider would be cut off after three strikes. After the Christchurch mosque hoax, (which the patsy Trenton live streamed on FB, aparently,) before she did the gun grab she made it illegal for anyone to VIEW that footage online! - not just illegal to share it on social media etc, but actually VIEW it - somehow they knew that people did because several people were busted and raided and got hefty sentences! They data suck and observe everything here! EVERYTHING! I doubt we could go to the bathroom without them knowing, we've been the trial place for the tech for a long time - the first to go all in on eftpos etc. Kiwis are so docile and gullible they haven't needed to go-in and waste the resources on controlling the online narrative to the same extent as the UK, all the comments sections on the mainstream popular news sites are highly regulated by the gate keepers so unlike thedailymail, nothing "harmful" ever gets through to sheeples screens - Cindy did just fine with her everyday press conferences anyway. Things may change now that its gone so draconian and shes lost control of it.. But they must have in Australia because they're showing up at peoples doors in real time to arrest pregnant woman about a FB post or coming around asking questions about facebooks posts made 6 months ago! That takes some serious resource commitment! I never knew it was so bad mate you have my sympathies ,as you know the levels of censorship across the globe are at unprecedented levels however in the UK we can still say and post stuff online that is critical of governmental overreach....that said it doesn't mean you won't get put on a watch list and if yer really vocal you'll get surveillance by the 'security services' coff....Frightening to think of governments using resources to fight their own people,people who electedthem ,people who wanted to try and help initially ,,,but then again 1984 was a warning not a work of fiction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, JJ73 said: Wow! I was going to ask, why don't people in those places come forward and say these stories aren't real? Why would they risk it? Mainstream media wouldn't cover it. The police and local authorities would know who the person/people were. It wouldn't be worth their while. I have just seen this link. I don't know how true it is but the notes underneath the video seem plausible enough. https://rumble.com/vpot5p-dr.-david-martin-who-they-are-the-names-and-faces-of-the-people-who-are-kil.html I haven't watched it. But I am familiar with his work. These guys? 1. Al Gore, Vice-President of the United States (1993-2001), Chairman and Co-Founder, Generation Investment Management LLP 2. Andre Hoffmann, Vice- Chairman, Roche 3. Angel Gurria, QECD 4. Bill Gates, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation 5. Christine Lagarde, President European Central Bank 6. Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister & Minister of Finance, Office of the Deputy Prime minister of Canada 7. David M. Rubenstein, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Chairman, Carlyle Group 8. Dustin Moskovitz, Open Philanthropy 9. Fabiola Gianotti, Director-General, European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) 10. Feike Sybesma, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Royal Philips 11. H.M. Queen Rania Al Abdullah of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Queen of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Office of H.M Queen Rania Al Abdullah 12. Heizo Takenaka, Professor Emeritus, Keio University 13. Herman Gref, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board, Sberbank 14. Jim Hagemann Snabe,Chairman Siemens 15. Julie Sweet , Chief Executive Officer, Accenture 16. Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum 17. Kristalina Georgeva, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund (IMF) 18. L. Rafael Reif, President, Massachusetts Institute of Technology 19. Larry Page, Google 20. Laurence D Fink, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, BlackRock 21. Luis Alberto Moreno, Member of the Board of Trustees World Economic Forum 22. Marc Benioff, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, Salesforce 23. Mark Carney, United Nations Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, United Nations 24. Mark Schneider, Chief Executive Officer, Nestle 25. Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook 26. Mukesh D Ambani, Chairman and Managing Director of Reliance Industries 27. Orit Gadiesh, Chairman, Bain & Company 28. Patrice Motsepe, Founder and Executive Chairman, African Rainbow Minerals 29. Paula Ingabire, Minister of Information Technology and Innovation, Ministry of Information Communication Technology and Innovation of Rwanda 30. Peter Brabeck-Latmathe, Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees, World Economic Forum 31. Peter Maurer, President, International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 32. Robert Mercer, Renaissance Fund 33. Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Senior Minister, Government of Singapore 34. Thomas Buberi, Chief Executive Officer, AXA 35. Yo-Yo Ma, Cellist 36. Zhu Min, Chairman, National Institute of Financial Research 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: I haven't watched it. But I am familiar with his work. These guys? 1. Al Gore, Vice-President of the United States (1993-2001), Chairman and Co-Founder, Generation Investment Management LLP 2. Andre Hoffmann, Vice- Chairman, Roche 3. Angel Gurria, QECD 4. Bill Gates, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation 5. Christine Lagarde, President European Central Bank 6. Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister & Minister of Finance, Office of the Deputy Prime minister of Canada 7. David M. Rubenstein, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Chairman, Carlyle Group 8. Dustin Moskovitz, Open Philanthropy 9. Fabiola Gianotti, Director-General, European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) 10. Feike Sybesma, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Royal Philips 11. H.M. Queen Rania Al Abdullah of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Queen of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Office of H.M Queen Rania Al Abdullah 12. Heizo Takenaka, Professor Emeritus, Keio University 13. Herman Gref, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board, Sberbank 14. Jim Hagemann Snabe,Chairman Siemens 15. Julie Sweet , Chief Executive Officer, Accenture 16. Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum 17. Kristalina Georgeva, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund (IMF) 18. L. Rafael Reif, President, Massachusetts Institute of Technology 19. Larry Page, Google 20. Laurence D Fink, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, BlackRock 21. Luis Alberto Moreno, Member of the Board of Trustees World Economic Forum 22. Marc Benioff, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, Salesforce 23. Mark Carney, United Nations Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, United Nations 24. Mark Schneider, Chief Executive Officer, Nestle 25. Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook 26. Mukesh D Ambani, Chairman and Managing Director of Reliance Industries 27. Orit Gadiesh, Chairman, Bain & Company 28. Patrice Motsepe, Founder and Executive Chairman, African Rainbow Minerals 29. Paula Ingabire, Minister of Information Technology and Innovation, Ministry of Information Communication Technology and Innovation of Rwanda 30. Peter Brabeck-Latmathe, Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees, World Economic Forum 31. Peter Maurer, President, International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 32. Robert Mercer, Renaissance Fund 33. Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Senior Minister, Government of Singapore 34. Thomas Buberi, Chief Executive Officer, AXA 35. Yo-Yo Ma, Cellist 36. Zhu Min, Chairman, National Institute of Financial Research Wondr how many of those names have been through the wef's future leaders programme...disproportionatially high i would think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said: Wondr how many of those names have been through the wef's future leaders programme...disproportionatially high i would think? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: I haven't watched it. But I am familiar with his work. These guys? 1. Al Gore, Vice-President of the United States (1993-2001), Chairman and Co-Founder, Generation Investment Management LLP 2. Andre Hoffmann, Vice- Chairman, Roche 3. Angel Gurria, QECD 4. Bill Gates, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation 5. Christine Lagarde, President European Central Bank 6. Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister & Minister of Finance, Office of the Deputy Prime minister of Canada 7. David M. Rubenstein, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Chairman, Carlyle Group 8. Dustin Moskovitz, Open Philanthropy 9. Fabiola Gianotti, Director-General, European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) 10. Feike Sybesma, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Royal Philips 11. H.M. Queen Rania Al Abdullah of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Queen of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Office of H.M Queen Rania Al Abdullah 12. Heizo Takenaka, Professor Emeritus, Keio University 13. Herman Gref, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board, Sberbank 14. Jim Hagemann Snabe,Chairman Siemens 15. Julie Sweet , Chief Executive Officer, Accenture 16. Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum 17. Kristalina Georgeva, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund (IMF) 18. L. Rafael Reif, President, Massachusetts Institute of Technology 19. Larry Page, Google 20. Laurence D Fink, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, BlackRock 21. Luis Alberto Moreno, Member of the Board of Trustees World Economic Forum 22. Marc Benioff, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, Salesforce 23. Mark Carney, United Nations Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, United Nations 24. Mark Schneider, Chief Executive Officer, Nestle 25. Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook 26. Mukesh D Ambani, Chairman and Managing Director of Reliance Industries 27. Orit Gadiesh, Chairman, Bain & Company 28. Patrice Motsepe, Founder and Executive Chairman, African Rainbow Minerals 29. Paula Ingabire, Minister of Information Technology and Innovation, Ministry of Information Communication Technology and Innovation of Rwanda 30. Peter Brabeck-Latmathe, Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees, World Economic Forum 31. Peter Maurer, President, International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 32. Robert Mercer, Renaissance Fund 33. Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Senior Minister, Government of Singapore 34. Thomas Buberi, Chief Executive Officer, AXA 35. Yo-Yo Ma, Cellist 36. Zhu Min, Chairman, National Institute of Financial Research I wasn't aware of Yo-Yo Ma the Cellist but yes, a lot of those names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Yep. All pissing in the same pot we,the general public, are excluded from ...i hope to see the pot broken very soon...their names will be on watch lists not kept by governmental agencies or NGO's ....build the gallows now we have appointments to keep ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malbec Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: The parents need horsewhipping. This just goes to show that the story of how the govt were going against the alleged JCVI "advice" for over 12s was obviously bullshit. The stages are all incrementally planned, with the odd fake curveball thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 A truly inspiring talk between Rick Wiles & Doc Burkhart on TruNews last night. MARK OF THE BEAST: IMPLANTED MICROCHIP TO TRACK VACCINATION STATUS https://www.trunews.com/stream/mark-of-the-beast-implanted-microchip-to-track-vaccination-status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said: I never knew it was so bad mate you have my sympathies ,as you know the levels of censorship across the globe are at unprecedented levels however in the UK we can still say and post stuff online that is critical of governmental overreach....that said it doesn't mean you won't get put on a watch list and if yer really vocal you'll get surveillance by the 'security services' coff....Frightening to think of governments using resources to fight their own people,people who electedthem ,people who wanted to try and help initially ,,,but then again 1984 was a warning not a work of fiction Yeah it's nuts! It's been a slow creep so no one noticed. 2011 Where you stand under new copyright law What does the law aim to do? Stamp out internet piracy by making it easier to punish people who illegally download music, TV shows, films, books and games What is peer-to-peer file sharing? When internet users connect via an application or network to download or upload off each other without paying a cent Who is liable? The person named on the internet bill, not the person who physically clicks on the download icon. So mums, dads, holiday home owners, schools and universities are at risk of being pinged for their children's, guests' or students' illegal activities How does the copyright holder track you down? When you start downloading a file, your internet protocol (IP) address pops up, which is visible to all users on the site. Copyright owners can scan sites and detect when their work is being illegally shared. How does the three strikes system work? Once a copyright holder sees that your computer is downloading pirated material, it will contact your internet service provider, such as Telecom or TelstraClear. Your ISP will send a letter or email on behalf of the copyright owner. The first strike is called a detection notice, the second a warning notice, and the third an enforcement notice. You can challenge these notices within 14 days of receiving them. If three notifications are sent within nine months, the copyright owner can pay $200 to take you to the Copyright Tribunal, to seek damages from as little as $275 up to $15,000 Can I be barred from using the internet? Potentially. The provision allowing a district court to suspend your internet account for up to six months is not in force, but will be reviewed by the Government next year. https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/5558008/Where-you-stand-under-new-copyright-law 2019 - Trentons "Manifesto" is illegal to read too! lol Document written by alleged Christchurch gunman classified 'objectionable' A document written by the alleged Christchurch gunman has been labelled crude and promotive of murder and terrorism. Shanks said anyone who sees the document online should report it immediately. Shanks officially classified the full 17-minute video as "objectionable" on Monday, because of its "depiction and promotion of extreme violence and terrorism". Shanks said the video contained "exceedingly graphic real life images, which could cause significant harm to those who view it, especially for victims and their families". It is illegal for anyone in New Zealand to view, possess or distribute the video in any form, including through social media. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111503450/document-written-by-alleged-christchurch-gunman-classified-objectionable 2021 Our new "hate speech" law is truly Orwellian, twisted and crafted and written in a way to "protect" the feelings of minority groups. Instead of outlawing certain communications about people based on colour, race, ethnicity or nationality alone, the law would protect the groups protected from discrimination under section 21 of the Human Rights Act. That could include discrimination on the basis of: • Sex or sexual orientation * • Marital status or family status • Religious belief or ethical belief • Colour, race, ethnicity, nationality or citizenship • Disability • Age • Political opinion • Employment status (including receiving a government benefit) It would be a crime to: 1. intentionally incite/stir up, maintain or normalise hatred 2. against any group protected from discrimination by section 21 of the Human Rights Act 3. through threatening, abusive or insulting communications, including inciting violence 4. made by any means The proposal also makes clear that this would apply to any kind of communication including digital, something the current criminal law is vague on. While the proposal document did not explicitly state what it means to "incite/stir up, maintain or normalise hatred", Ministry of Justice general manager of civil and constitutional policy Caroline Greaney explained that: • Hatred implies extreme dislike or disgust • Incite/stir up covers speech that causes other people to also feel hatred towards a group • Maintain or normalise covers speech towards a protected group which builds on or reinforces already held feelings of hatred in others As the discussion document notes, the current law uses four terms - hostility, ill will, contempt, and ridicule, which have broad meanings and could overlap - a problem this new law would aim to solve. Proposal 3: The punishment The new criminal provision in the Crimes Act would state that a person who commits the offence is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years' imprisonment or to a fine not exceeding $50,000. This one is pretty clean-cut, but could be in plainer language: you get up to three years in prison or a fine up to $50,000 for breaking this law. This is an increase from the current punishment of three months in prison or a fine up to $7000. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/proposed-hate-speech-laws-what-you-need-to-know/MVWR2D7MNZXJCD7FEUUUDQCH4A/ That was just the first article that came up. The above points were just "proposed" back then, but I'm sure they all went through. lol Since everyone hates Cindy now, no doubt they will be monitoring the platforms for "hate" directed towards her, like this poor tranny below: june 2021 ransgender woman Lexie Matheson says the proposed hate speech law is “immensely important PS> after the mosque shooting NO ONE would have been harassing those Muslims- they lie! The country was overwhelming in grief with them. (obviously I do not know NO ONE did, but we're not a country full of "white supremists" - no matter how hard they try and gaslight us into thinking so. Edited December 23, 2021 by skitzorat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, alexa said: It could be, I don't know, anything is possible these days. I love the '33' thread on here https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/15041-33/ I have responded to the above linked thread. I am endlessly fascinated by this subject. Seeing all the coded numbers coming up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, JJ73 said: I never wanted to post this however I'm going to. Is it already too late? I mean, is this going to end well for any of us? My health is failing. I am sleeping so much now. The neighbours are being turned against me. Family don't want to see me. I doubt I'm alone in this. In fact, I know I am absolutely not. This is global and the same measures are rolling out at the same time everywhere. Nowhere is safe. Now we have the archbishop (I won't capitalise his title - cnt!) of Canterbury who is coming out with the most evil things. It seems as if everyone everywhere in positions of powers have been bought off. I keep hearing "Hold the line" but really what good is that? We're nearly 2 years into this and those around me will just keep on getting jabbed. They're not questioning the narrative at all. If they were drones before, they are super drones now. I can feel an air of threat now. How long before the verbal aggression from those around me becomes physical? Who can I call? The police? What a joke. They have chosen their side. It feels very strongly like that thing we are not allowed to discuss which happened 80 years ago only now the people doing the oppressing were the ones who were being led away. Away from this forum and all of you, I have zero quality of life. Being not here is the better option. I go to bed every day hoping I don't wake up. Sorry to be on a downer but this is how I feel and you are the only people I know who get it. Have an internet detox from everything - 48 hrs - spend that time in nature buy yourself. Think of things you can be grateful for. Then come back to us refreshed and re-energized. We are here with you. We need you ship shape for the times ahead....you are not alone... we await.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr H said: Have an internet detox from everything - 48 hrs - spend that time in nature buy yourself. Think of things you can be grateful for. Then come back to us refreshed and re-energized. We are here with you. We need you ship shape for the times ahead....you are not alone... we await.... Yes, good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: You may recall, over a year ago, the arrest of Harvard scientist Charles Lieber. He was arrested for taking money from the Chicoms. You'll never get it from MSM, but he was convicted yesterday. On all six counts. It gets better. Apparently he was working on some very advanced technology. The tech has been developed now to the stage where it is possible to inject a self assembling computer into someone. This system will embed itself into cells and then link them into the internet of things. This is confirmed through patents and successful experiments. Lieber was a real pioneer in this field. The patents refer to carbon nanotubes. Which is the same as graphene oxide. Also the technology exists, and has been confirmed, whereby emotions and actions can be controlled through 5G. Mike Adams is breaking it down with Owen Shroyer. A bit under 40 minutes. Top Scientist Who Worked With Human Interfacing Tech Charged For Illegally Working In China (banned.video) Teslaphoresis... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 10:43 PM, Martin1234 said: Terrifying watching Boris on the telly tonight. The mandatory Vax question was so staged. I think it is a matter of time before we are at that point, I just dread to think about what'll happen to those that refuse. I've mentioned him quite a few times now but seeing my once friendly, chatty neighbour turn on me and become unpleasant and oddly combative doesn't bode well for the future. The PTB are actively getting the vaxxed to turn on the unvaxxed. They couldn't be clearer about that. Sajid Javid stated recently that if the homeless don't get jabbed they can remain in that condition. That was on Mayhar Tousi's YouTube channel very recently. I'm dreading the direction people are going in already. I think mandatory shots are coming and not just for certain sectors. For everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, dumbcritic said: In one study conducted here in the UK, data collected from Scottish hospitals by a group of researchers suggest that Omicron infections are linked to two-thirds of the reduction in the risk of hospitalisation compared to Delta https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12/22/world/omicron-covid-vaccine-tests#omicron-infections-do-not-seem-as-severe-leading-less-often-to-hospitalization-uk-researchers-report Fergusson said although Omicron is mild compared to Delta, there are more 'cases' so we are back to square one. In Scotland they are demanding testing and increased vaccination, ventilation and hygiene to return to schools. Being forced into self-isolation, whether you are ill or not, is causing real problems here among the workforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, JJ73 said: The PTB are actively getting the vaxxed to turn on the unvaxxed. Yep, and very quickly. 2 minutes ago, JJ73 said: Sajid Javid stated recently that if the homeless don't get jabbed they can remain in that condition. Like they're going to take that seriously. Yeah, government has a brilliant track record of housing the homeless. 2 minutes ago, JJ73 said: I'm dreading the direction people are going in already. I think mandatory shots are coming and not just for certain sectors. For everyone. There's no doubt about that. Best to show strength and numbers now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, skitzorat said: Yeah it's nuts! It's been a slow creep so no one noticed. 2011 Where you stand under new copyright law What does the law aim to do? Stamp out internet piracy by making it easier to punish people who illegally download music, TV shows, films, books and games What is peer-to-peer file sharing? When internet users connect via an application or network to download or upload off each other without paying a cent Who is liable? The person named on the internet bill, not the person who physically clicks on the download icon. So mums, dads, holiday home owners, schools and universities are at risk of being pinged for their children's, guests' or students' illegal activities How does the copyright holder track you down? When you start downloading a file, your internet protocol (IP) address pops up, which is visible to all users on the site. Copyright owners can scan sites and detect when their work is being illegally shared. How does the three strikes system work? Once a copyright holder sees that your computer is downloading pirated material, it will contact your internet service provider, such as Telecom or TelstraClear. Your ISP will send a letter or email on behalf of the copyright owner. The first strike is called a detection notice, the second a warning notice, and the third an enforcement notice. You can challenge these notices within 14 days of receiving them. If three notifications are sent within nine months, the copyright owner can pay $200 to take you to the Copyright Tribunal, to seek damages from as little as $275 up to $15,000 Can I be barred from using the internet? Potentially. The provision allowing a district court to suspend your internet account for up to six months is not in force, but will be reviewed by the Government next year. https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/5558008/Where-you-stand-under-new-copyright-law 2019 - Trentons "Manifesto" is illegal to read too! lol Document written by alleged Christchurch gunman classified 'objectionable' A document written by the alleged Christchurch gunman has been labelled crude and promotive of murder and terrorism. Shanks said anyone who sees the document online should report it immediately. Shanks officially classified the full 17-minute video as "objectionable" on Monday, because of its "depiction and promotion of extreme violence and terrorism". Shanks said the video contained "exceedingly graphic real life images, which could cause significant harm to those who view it, especially for victims and their families". It is illegal for anyone in New Zealand to view, possess or distribute the video in any form, including through social media. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111503450/document-written-by-alleged-christchurch-gunman-classified-objectionable 2021 Our new "hate speech" law is truly Orwellian, twisted and crafted and written in a way to "protect" the feelings of minority groups. Instead of outlawing certain communications about people based on colour, race, ethnicity or nationality alone, the law would protect the groups protected from discrimination under section 21 of the Human Rights Act. That could include discrimination on the basis of: • Sex or sexual orientation * • Marital status or family status • Religious belief or ethical belief • Colour, race, ethnicity, nationality or citizenship • Disability • Age • Political opinion • Employment status (including receiving a government benefit) It would be a crime to: 1. intentionally incite/stir up, maintain or normalise hatred 2. against any group protected from discrimination by section 21 of the Human Rights Act 3. through threatening, abusive or insulting communications, including inciting violence 4. made by any means The proposal also makes clear that this would apply to any kind of communication including digital, something the current criminal law is vague on. While the proposal document did not explicitly state what it means to "incite/stir up, maintain or normalise hatred", Ministry of Justice general manager of civil and constitutional policy Caroline Greaney explained that: • Hatred implies extreme dislike or disgust • Incite/stir up covers speech that causes other people to also feel hatred towards a group • Maintain or normalise covers speech towards a protected group which builds on or reinforces already held feelings of hatred in others As the discussion document notes, the current law uses four terms - hostility, ill will, contempt, and ridicule, which have broad meanings and could overlap - a problem this new law would aim to solve. Proposal 3: The punishment The new criminal provision in the Crimes Act would state that a person who commits the offence is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years' imprisonment or to a fine not exceeding $50,000. This one is pretty clean-cut, but could be in plainer language: you get up to three years in prison or a fine up to $50,000 for breaking this law. This is an increase from the current punishment of three months in prison or a fine up to $7000. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/proposed-hate-speech-laws-what-you-need-to-know/MVWR2D7MNZXJCD7FEUUUDQCH4A/ That was just the first article that came up. The above points were just "proposed" back then, but I'm sure they all went through. lol Since everyone hates Cindy now, no doubt they will be monitoring the platforms for "hate" directed towards her, like this poor tranny below: june 2021 ransgender woman Lexie Matheson says the proposed hate speech law is “immensely important PS> after the mosque shooting NO ONE would have been harassing those Muslims- they lie! The country was overwhelming in grief with them. (obviously I do not know NO ONE did, but we're not a country full of "white supremists" - no matter how hard they try and gaslight us into thinking so. I think this legislation is really aimed at protecting one specific "chosen" group from exposure or criticism, but that would be a thought crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Yeah, government has a brilliant track record of housing the homeless. Very true. Gesture politics at best. We know it can be done and quickly at that because we saw so at the beginning of all this. They don't do it outside of crises because they don't want to. 7 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Best to show strength and numbers now. I agree. Edited December 23, 2021 by JJ73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JJ73 said: Very true. Gesture politics at best. We know it can be done and quickly at that because we saw so at the beginning of all this. They don't do it outside of crises because they don't want to. Exactly. Why waste money on a group that doesn't vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsa Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, JJ73 said: I've mentioned him quite a few times now but seeing my once friendly, chatty neighbour turn on me and become unpleasant and oddly combative doesn't bode well for the future. The PTB are actively getting the vaxxed to turn on the unvaxxed. They couldn't be clearer about that. Sajid Javid stated recently that if the homeless don't get jabbed they can remain in that condition. That was on Mayhar Tousi's YouTube channel very recently. I'm dreading the direction people are going in already. I think mandatory shots are coming and not just for certain sectors. For everyone. I wouldn't waste anymore of your time and energy even thinking about these people mate. It's time and energy better spent on getting yourself feeling better. I know it's hard but developing an attitude of indifference towards these people can bring a lot of peace imo and people who we are developing negative feelings towards in general. Leave them to it. People are going to refuse this booster and they are going to refuse the inevitable omicron booster as well. We are going to have to put differences aside and support everyones right to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Exactly. Why waste money on a group that doesn't vote. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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