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5 minutes ago, Human10 said:

I'm sure many would subscribe¬†ūüėܬ†

 

You can imagine them discussing it 6 feet away from either side of their fence while wearing their masks yelling at each other that its *disinformation* (from the Russians) and that you cannot book 120 boosters in bulk! 

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18 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Yes, one these dipshits has been caught saying they only model based on policy, not policy based on modelling. So they set their models to say what they want and not what's reality. ūüĎć

Sounds about right. They baffle people with bullshit and because the prick spouting it has a Ph.D, people swallow it without thinking. We Brits used to have a healthy skepticism for government pronouncements, but that has all gone.

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7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

 

 

 

 

She can’t front a news conference anymore but will hop on Facebook and do her thing:

 

Approx 10 days ago.

 

21/12/2021

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For comparison, just 14 months ago, Oct 17th 2020; winning the election and giving her "6uild 6ack 6etter" victory speech. 

(timestamped)

 

 

She looks like she's in need of some adrenochrome these days! 

 

 

 

She reminds me of that creature that absconded from John Hurt's stomach.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, webtrekker said:

 

I've noticed for quite a while now that the vaxxed can't debate with anyone unvaxxed without raising their voices and shouting over the argument while the other person is speaking. Most of the unvaxxed stay quite calm and enen-tempered when putting their points across. It happens a lot on TV.

 

 

 

 

Empty vessels make the loudest sound.

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1 minute ago, Captainlove said:

Well who would of thought Austria with there history would go full Nazis again.

Yes, we truly live in strange times!

 

Who would have thought Austria and Germany of all places in Europe would be the ones to truly kick off authoritarianism  so bad that even old Jewish ladies get up at protests and speak, saying they're being treated worse than the 1930s! - and that was in 2020!! lol

 

Now we literally have people who took the blue pill and are showing their vax passports to get in to see the new Matrix 4 movie!

 

And this Boston "initiative" heralding the coming vax pass for little children called "Be Together!"

 

 

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16 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Now we literally have people who took the blue pill and are showing their vax passports to get in to see the new Matrix 4 movie!

 

thats just awesome

 

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And this Boston "initiative" heralding the coming vax pass for little children called "Be Together!"

all very NewSpeak

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1 hour ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Is there any truth to the story that the government only asks SAGE for its worst-case scenario, and ignores the other end of the spectrum?

 

 

 

From The Spectator ...

 

Source:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-twitter-conversation-with-the-chairman-of-the-sage-covid-modelling-committee?s=09

My Twitter conversation with the chairman of the Sage Covid modelling committee

 
18 December 2021, 8:03pm

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Professor Graham Medley (photo: BBC)

 

The latest Sage papers have been¬†published, envisaging anything from 200 to 6,000 deaths a day from Omicron depending on how many more restrictions we‚Äôll get ‚ÄĒ up to and very much including another lockdown. Earlier today I had an unexpected chance to ask questions of Graham Medley, the chair of the Sage modelling committee.¬†

He's a professor at¬†London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) which last weekend published a study on Omicron with very gloomy scenarios and¬†making the case for more restrictions. But JP Morgan had a close look at this study and spotted something big:¬†all the way through,¬†LSHTM assumes that the¬†Omicron variant is¬†just as deadly as Delta. ‚ÄėBut evidence from South Africa suggests that Omicron infections are milder,‚Äô JP Morgan pointed out in a note to clients. Adjust for this, it found, and the picture changes dramatically:

“Bed occupancy by Covid-19 patients at the end of January would be 33% of the peak seen in January 2021. This would be manageable without further restrictions.

So JP Morgan had shown that, if you¬†tweak one assumption (on severity)¬†then ‚ÄĒ suddenly ‚ÄĒ no need for lockdown.

Why was this scenario left out?¬†Why would this fairly important and fairly basic fact on Omicron modelling¬†not presented by Sage modellers like Professor Medley¬†to ministers ‚ÄĒ and to the general public? I was thrilled for the chance to speak to him on Twitter. It was kind of him to make the time (he‚Äôs still going, as far as I can make out). The Spectator data hub has a page devoted to past Sage modelling vs actual, and I wanted to make sure I was not being unfair to¬†Sage in my selection or presentation of those charts.

 

 

The latest¬†Sage paper-drop ‚ÄĒ the 6,000-deaths-a-day one ‚ÄĒ refers to ‚Äėscenarios,‚Äô not predictions. Professor Medley emphasises the distinction: saying something could happen is not saying that there's a realistic chance of it happening. But then why do Sage modellers¬†publish some scenarios and not others?

 

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Apologies for the language at the end, but it was the last tweet that he replied to on this thread.

Revealingly, he seemed to think my question odd: if it's quite plausible that Omicron is mild and doesn't threaten the NHS, what would be the point of including that as a 'scenario'? He seemed to suggest that he has been given a very limited brief, and asked to churn out worse-case scenarios without being asked to comment on how plausible they are.

“We generally model what we are asked to model. There is a dialogue in which policy teams discuss with the modellers what they need to inform their policy.

Might this remit mean leaving out just-as-plausible, quite-important scenarios that would not require lockdown?

“Decision-makers are generally on only interested in situations where decisions have to be made.

Note how careful he is to stay vague on whether any of the various scenarios in the Sage document are likely or even¬†plausible. What happened to the original system of presenting a ‚Äėreasonable worse-case scenario‚Äô together with a central scenario? And what's the point of modelling if it doesn't say how likely any these scenarios are?

From what Professor Medley says, it’s unclear that the most-likely scenario is even being presented to ministers this time around. So how are they supposed to make good decisions? I highly doubt that Sajid Javid is only asking to churn out models that make the case for lockdown. That instruction, if it is being issued, will have come from somewhere else.

Professor Robert Dingwall, until recently a JCVI expert, has said that Medley‚Äôs candour reveals ‚Äėa fundamental problem of scientific ethics in Sage‚Äô ‚ÄĒ ie, a hardwired negativity bias.¬† ‚ÄėThe unquestioning response to the brief is very like that of SPI-B's behavioural scientists,‚Äô he says and¬†suggests that the Covid inquiry looks into all this.

At a time when we have just been given a new set of ‚Äėscenarios‚Äô for a new year lockdown¬†it might be good if someone ‚ÄĒ if not Professor Medley ‚ÄĒ would clear up what assumptions lie behind the new 6,000-a-day-dead scenario, and if emerging information from South Africa¬†about Omicron and its virulence have been taken into account. And how probable it is that a double-jabbed and increasingly boosted nation (with 95 per cent antibody coverage) could see this worst-case scenario come to pass.

In my view, this raises serious questions not just about Sage but¬†about¬†the quality of the advice used to make UK lockdown decisions. And the lack of transparency and scrutiny of that advice. The lives of millions of people rests on the quality of decisions, so the calibre of information supplied matters rather a lot ‚ÄĒ to all of us.

I’ve asked Professor Medley to come on Spectator TV, to have a longer conversation outside Twitter. He has written for us before so I hope he accepts. For now, although I often curse the platform, I should thank Twitter for giving me the chance to ask some questions of someone so well-placed in such an important issue.

Every day, The Spectator sends out am email summary of the Covid-19 news, science and data.  Sign up for free here.

 

 

Written byFraser Nelson

Fraser Nelson is editor of The Spectator

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More madness, so that's everyone prioritised for testing...

 

Because about 33% of all COVID-19 cases are asymptomatic in the UK, the Department of Health and Social Care will prioritize testing people without symptoms as well

 

https://trialsitenews.com/33-of-covid-19-cases-in-uk-asymptomatic-so-testing-set-to-expand-to-those-with-no-symptoms/

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7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

What cvnt face has just recently annouced however, is that because of omicron, they've changed the rules and they're not opening the quarentine free return¬†travel between AU and NZ until some far off date in Feb or something so everyones summer travel plans to Au for a holiday have been all fcked up because they might now need quarantine hotel rooms to reurn now and theres no bookings [email protected]! LOLZ

 

(something like that, I dont keep up)  - but what a cvnt...people are furious! lol

 

PS..Im not sure but more than likely ALL these travllers would have to have been double jabbed tooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aHHAHAAHAHAHAH

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oh dear, its far far worse than I thought now I read into it!  And I know longer find it funny... 10s of thousands of small business' are going to collapse most likely bankrupting people and sending suicides through the roof.... 10s of thousands of people not being able to see loved ones in Australia who they probably havent seen for almost 2 years...

 

All going to NWO plan then!

Air NZ cancels 120 flights, 27,000 customers affected

Air New Zealand says it will cancel about 120 services through to the end of February because of the Government’s decision to delay the start of non-MIQ travel.

Covid-19 Minister Chris Hipkins announced on Tuesday that travellers from Australia would continue to need to go through managed isolation until the end of February, instead of mid-January as had been planned.

He said that was to give New Zealanders time to get a booster to provide more protect against the new omicron strain of Covid-19.

 

All existing quarantine-free flights from Australia to New Zealand between January 17 and February 28 will be cancelled and there will be a limited schedule of quarantine flights available to book.

Customers who still wish to travel to New Zealand will need to secure a MIQ allocation before booking on a quarantine flight.

 

The Government was planning to allow fully vaccinated New Zealanders and residents to arrive in New Zealand from Australia without going through managed isolation from mid-January.

 

However, that has been pushed back until the end of February to give the country more time to roll out a booster shot programme given a surge in Covid-19 cases overseas fuelled by the Omicron variant.

 

 

Covid-19: Omicron border restrictions 'final nail in the coffin' for some tourism businesses, operator says

 

Mad Campers co-owner Andrew Haslett said tourism used to be New Zealand’s biggest export earner, but it felt as though it had been completely forgotten during the pandemic.

 

‚ÄúWe‚Äôve managed to hold on for two years, but it‚Äôs been tough, and we‚Äôve lost a hell of a lot of money.‚ÄĚ

He said he knew ‚Äúcountless‚ÄĚ other operators who were in a similar situation.

 

‚ÄúThe material impact has already been done. The tourism industry is literally on its knees already.‚ÄĚ

‚ÄúThat announcement, I‚Äôm picking, is going to be the final nail in the coffin for a huge number of companies,‚ÄĚ Haslett said.

 

‚ÄúThe hundreds of people who have booked to come home from Australia from mid-January are now faced with rolling the dice to try and get a MIQ room and then spending the first 10 days of a holiday locked down or seeing if they can reschedule their flight sometime in March,‚ÄĚ

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1 minute ago, campanar said:

More madness, so that's everyone prioritised for testing...

 

Because about 33% of all COVID-19 cases are asymptomatic in the UK, the Department of Health and Social Care will prioritize testing people without symptoms as well

 

https://trialsitenews.com/33-of-covid-19-cases-in-uk-asymptomatic-so-testing-set-to-expand-to-those-with-no-symptoms/

 

Only to be expected. This is how they escalate the figures to astronomic proportions. Test, test, test everyone, even all of those with no symptoms, with a test that is geared up to produce false positives.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, campanar said:

More madness, so that's everyone prioritised for testing...

 

Because about 33% of all COVID-19 cases are asymptomatic in the UK, the Department of Health and Social Care will prioritize testing people without symptoms as well

 

https://trialsitenews.com/33-of-covid-19-cases-in-uk-asymptomatic-so-testing-set-to-expand-to-those-with-no-symptoms/

33% you say? I wonder where I've seen that number before....... ūü§Ē

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7 hours ago, zArk said:

hes an astrophysicists, obviously cant tell a pulsar from a false positive

 

why doesnt he just STFU and strum his guitar, alone, quietly in the privacy of his own house

 

An 'intelligent' man, they say.  He's rather quite dense. He has gone along with the scam from the very beginning. 

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10 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

 

 

From The Spectator ...

 

Source:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-twitter-conversation-with-the-chairman-of-the-sage-covid-modelling-committee?s=09

My Twitter conversation with the chairman of the Sage Covid modelling committee

 
18 December 2021, 8:03pm

prof_graham_medley.jpeg.f7911ecbd1263c58d4227c3debecdc2b.jpeg
Professor Graham Medley (photo: BBC)

 

The latest Sage papers have been¬†published, envisaging anything from 200 to 6,000 deaths a day from Omicron depending on how many more restrictions we‚Äôll get ‚ÄĒ up to and very much including another lockdown. Earlier today I had an unexpected chance to ask questions of Graham Medley, the chair of the Sage modelling committee.¬†

He's a professor at¬†London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) which last weekend published a study on Omicron with very gloomy scenarios and¬†making the case for more restrictions. But JP Morgan had a close look at this study and spotted something big:¬†all the way through,¬†LSHTM assumes that the¬†Omicron variant is¬†just as deadly as Delta. ‚ÄėBut evidence from South Africa suggests that Omicron infections are milder,‚Äô JP Morgan pointed out in a note to clients. Adjust for this, it found, and the picture changes dramatically:

“Bed occupancy by Covid-19 patients at the end of January would be 33% of the peak seen in January 2021. This would be manageable without further restrictions.

So JP Morgan had shown that, if you¬†tweak one assumption (on severity)¬†then ‚ÄĒ suddenly ‚ÄĒ no need for lockdown.

Why was this scenario left out?¬†Why would this fairly important and fairly basic fact on Omicron modelling¬†not presented by Sage modellers like Professor Medley¬†to ministers ‚ÄĒ and to the general public? I was thrilled for the chance to speak to him on Twitter. It was kind of him to make the time (he‚Äôs still going, as far as I can make out). The Spectator data hub has a page devoted to past Sage modelling vs actual, and I wanted to make sure I was not being unfair to¬†Sage in my selection or presentation of those charts.

 

 

The latest¬†Sage paper-drop ‚ÄĒ the 6,000-deaths-a-day one ‚ÄĒ refers to ‚Äėscenarios,‚Äô not predictions. Professor Medley emphasises the distinction: saying something could happen is not saying that there's a realistic chance of it happening. But then why do Sage modellers¬†publish some scenarios and not others?

 

twit1.jpeg.6b1bef3b45a1ef60acf3bbb5db97de32.jpeg

 

 

Apologies for the language at the end, but it was the last tweet that he replied to on this thread.

Revealingly, he seemed to think my question odd: if it's quite plausible that Omicron is mild and doesn't threaten the NHS, what would be the point of including that as a 'scenario'? He seemed to suggest that he has been given a very limited brief, and asked to churn out worse-case scenarios without being asked to comment on how plausible they are.

“We generally model what we are asked to model. There is a dialogue in which policy teams discuss with the modellers what they need to inform their policy.

Might this remit mean leaving out just-as-plausible, quite-important scenarios that would not require lockdown?

“Decision-makers are generally on only interested in situations where decisions have to be made.

Note how careful he is to stay vague on whether any of the various scenarios in the Sage document are likely or even¬†plausible. What happened to the original system of presenting a ‚Äėreasonable worse-case scenario‚Äô together with a central scenario? And what's the point of modelling if it doesn't say how likely any these scenarios are?

From what Professor Medley says, it’s unclear that the most-likely scenario is even being presented to ministers this time around. So how are they supposed to make good decisions? I highly doubt that Sajid Javid is only asking to churn out models that make the case for lockdown. That instruction, if it is being issued, will have come from somewhere else.

Professor Robert Dingwall, until recently a JCVI expert, has said that Medley‚Äôs candour reveals ‚Äėa fundamental problem of scientific ethics in Sage‚Äô ‚ÄĒ ie, a hardwired negativity bias.¬† ‚ÄėThe unquestioning response to the brief is very like that of SPI-B's behavioural scientists,‚Äô he says and¬†suggests that the Covid inquiry looks into all this.

At a time when we have just been given a new set of ‚Äėscenarios‚Äô for a new year lockdown¬†it might be good if someone ‚ÄĒ if not Professor Medley ‚ÄĒ would clear up what assumptions lie behind the new 6,000-a-day-dead scenario, and if emerging information from South Africa¬†about Omicron and its virulence have been taken into account. And how probable it is that a double-jabbed and increasingly boosted nation (with 95 per cent antibody coverage) could see this worst-case scenario come to pass.

In my view, this raises serious questions not just about Sage but¬†about¬†the quality of the advice used to make UK lockdown decisions. And the lack of transparency and scrutiny of that advice. The lives of millions of people rests on the quality of decisions, so the calibre of information supplied matters rather a lot ‚ÄĒ to all of us.

I’ve asked Professor Medley to come on Spectator TV, to have a longer conversation outside Twitter. He has written for us before so I hope he accepts. For now, although I often curse the platform, I should thank Twitter for giving me the chance to ask some questions of someone so well-placed in such an important issue.

Every day, The Spectator sends out am email summary of the Covid-19 news, science and data.  Sign up for free here.

 

 

Written byFraser Nelson

Fraser Nelson is editor of The Spectator

That's the tweets I saw. Hmmm, telling that's for sure. 

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15 minutes ago, zArk said:

all very NewSpeak

 

They're ripping of Dan Andrews Victoria's official slogan at the beginning of this nonesense in 2020....

 

Plastered ALL over the city and a backdrop to every press briefing!

 

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3 hours ago, Steve341 said:

Hello, I imagine this has already been answered but why do people who have bought into the virus nonsense have no questions or concerns about some of the more glaring problems with it all - such as if the 'virus' is so transmissible that they wear masks and social distance etc to avoid catching it, they will gladly accept having a cotton bud shoved up their noses and down their throats to test if they have it, and never ask why they can't just breathe onto it or do a simple cheek swab if it can be spread as easily as by brushing against someone in a shop or being in a room or on the bus with someone or touching a door handle and so on.

 

Always wonder why even if people believe that there is a deadly virus they never ask the simple questions.

 

Take a look at Double-Speak and Double-Think. It is little wonder that people can hold two contrary positions and not see the contradiction. As others have said it is brainwashing and that brainwashing (regarding the non existent epidemic) has been incessant since March 2020. It is as if a ruling council of cultists are speaking directly into people's homes 24/7.

 

Indeed if one has a television, they actually are.

 

To reinforce the brainwashing there are equally repetitive voices coming from radios and social media. Opposing voices on the internet (especially Google, Facebook, Twitter and Youtube) are largely cancelled and/or fact checked by other employees of the cult.

 

1984

 

 

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