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Just now, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Sorry to jump in here but Trump will likely run again in 2024. There is a good chance he will win. If he does, he will no doubt appoint people like Kushner to important positions. Trump is a liar and a frequent guest of Jeffrey Epstein. Trump and Biden and two cheeks on the same arse. They are compromised and corrupt as hell. The best America has to offer? It's a joke.

 

i don't disagree with any of that

 

if you go back to how this started it was me responding to a poster saying it was all down to trump and bill gates

 

I said trump isn't the president anymore and bill gates is just a front man for the rockefellers

 

I stand by that comment

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5 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I've already explained the seal's origins.

 

It wasn't designed to be put on the dollar bill at a later date.

 

but it WAS put on the dollar bill AFTER the cabal got their central bank with the passing of the federal reserve act 1913 and in the same year they created the IRS so that not only did they control the currency supply and therefore the purchasing power of peoples currency but they also controlled how much income tax people would pay and therefore their take home pay

 

Both of which were unconstitutional

 

and as i've shown you it is an ancient symbol that predates christianity

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

but it WAS put on the dollar bill AFTER the cabal go their central bank with the passing of the federal reserve act 1913 and in the same year they created the IRS so that not only did they control the currency supply and therefore the purchasing power of peoples currency but they also controlled how much income tax people would pay and therefore their take home pay

 

Both of which were unconstitutional

I don't disagree with those facts.

 

But it does not make the seal part of the conspiracy. 

 

The Nazis put the Swastika on their flag. That didn't change the original nature of the sun symbol.

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

if you aren't placing any blame on the current regime then you are lying by omission

You're attributing positions to me that I do not hold.

 

Unless you can point to a post where I have defended Joe Camel or absolved them of blame then you should really withdraw the liar accusation.

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4 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I don't disagree with those facts.

 

But it does not make the seal part of the conspiracy. 

 

The Nazis put the Swastika on their flag. That didn't change the original nature of the sun symbol.

 

we are talking about the INTENT of the people who put the seal on the dollar bill

 

their intent was to create a central bank and to control the fiat currency. What have they done with that power? They used their privileged position to enrich themselves whilst destroying the wealth of the US nation. They also orchestrated cyclical 'business cycles' through which they sheared the herd

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Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

You're attributing positions to me that I do not hold.

 

Unless you can point to a post where I have defended Joe Camel or absolved them of blame then you should really withdraw the liar accusation.

 

i didn't hear you mention joe biden at all. you OMITTED to mention him and that is the lack of perspective that i was referring to but i'd say that your post is less of an issue then the post of the person who started this line of argument

 

It was THEIR post i originally replied to and then you jumped in

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

we are talking about the INTENT of the people who put the seal on the dollar bill

 

their intent was to create a central bank and to control the fiat currency. What have they done with hat power? They used their privileged position to enrich themselves whilst destroying the wealth of the US nation. They also orchestrated cyclical 'business cycles' through which they sheared the herd

No.

 

I posted that the Eye of Providence was a Christian symbol.

 

Putting it on a fiat note doesn't change that.

 

Just be clear, so I don't get accused of it, I am not defending a group of banksters.

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Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

No.

 

I posted that the Eye of Providence was a Christian symbol.

 

i showed you an egyptian capstone with the eye of horus in a pyramid which predates christianity

 

Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

Putting it on a fiat note doesn't change that.

 

yes it does because the people who put that symbol in the note are not christians

 

Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

Just be clear, so I don't get accused of it, I am not defending a group of banksters.

 

no but you do seem to be trying to obfuscate their use of symbols

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i didn't hear you mention joe biden at all. you OMITTED to mention him and that is the lack of perspective that i was referring to but i'd say that your post is less of an issue then the post of the person who started this line of argument

 

It was THEIR post i originally replied to and then you jumped in

Why would I blame Biden for:

 

Operation Warp Speed;

Promoting vaccines at Trump's rallies;

Not pardoning Assange during Trump's Presidency;

Not standing up to internet censorship during Trump's Presidency;

Not arresting Hitlery during Trump's Presidency; and

Not standing up to the Deep State during Trump's Presidency?

 

That would be absurd.

 

True I did jump in. But what I posted was correct.

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3 hours ago, Nathan Oakley said:

 

Pretty sure it is Bill Gates and Trump behind the vaccine program. Leave Satan alone, no Satan ever gave me a jab.

 

no trump is not the president and trump does not control the UK or the australian or the new zealand or any of the other governments pushing this jab on their people

 

this is MUCH BIGGER THAN TRUMP.

 

and as for bill gates he is not some inspired entrepreneur who created a fortune through hardwork and his own genius. the guy is a cabal ASSET. His family were part of the conspiracy before he was even born. His father was the chief of planned parenthood and was a close associate of the rockefellers who are much higher up the chain then bill (the frontman) gates:

 

rockefeller-with-gatessr.jpg

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i showed you an egyptian capstone with the eye of horus in a pyramid which predates christianity

 

The capstone had the sun god Ra. But whatever.

 

Nothing to do with the Eye of Providence.

 

4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

yes it does because the people who put that symbol in the note are not christians

 

It doesn't change the nature of the symbol.

 

But we will just have to disagree.

 

I think we'll sorely test everyone's patience if we keep going back and forward on this point.

 

4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

no but you do seem to be trying to obfuscate their use of symbols

 

Not really.

 

I just understand them.

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Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

 

The capstone had the sun god Ra. But whatever.

 

Nothing to do with the Eye of Providence.

 

 

It doesn't change the nature of the symbol.

 

But we will just have to disagree.

 

I think we'll sorely test everyone's patience if we keep going back and forward on this point.

 

 

Not really.

 

I just understand them.

 

if you want to believe that christians run the federal reserve and the dollar fiat currency then you go right ahead and believe it but you are wrong

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

Trump is not independent of the agenda

 

Look at my post above and you can see the post i was originally responding to. I have replied to it AGAIN to bring some PERSPECTIVE back to the discussion

I acknowledged as much in my reply to Skitzorat.

 

But it is not your fault if you missed it.

 

I got what you were saying. I was just venting my frustrations at Trump's failures.

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

if you want to believe that christians run the federal reserve and the dollar fiat currency then you go right ahead and believe it but you are wrong

That really isn't what I'm claiming.

 

But come one.

 

It's a US dollar bill (well a Federal Reserve note pretending to be a US dollar bill). Surely there is nothing unusual about putting the US Seal on its currency?

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2 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

That really isn't what I'm claiming.

 

But come one.

 

It's a US dollar bill (well a Federal Reserve note pretending to be a US dollar bill). Surely there is nothing unusual about putting the US Seal on its currency?

 

All-Seeing Eye:

“An important symbol of the Supreme Being, borrowed by the Freemasons from the nations of antiquity. Both the Hebrews and the Egyptians appear to have derived its use from that natural inclination of figurative minds to select an organ as the symbol of the function which it is intended peculiarly to discharge. Thus, the foot was often adopted as the symbol of swiftness, the arm of strength, and the hand of fidelity.''

Albert Mackey, MD, in his Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and its Kindred Sciences

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Moderators.......if any of you are reading this can you do something about the fact that we are now getting page after page of non covid related stuff.

Two people are just totally taking over this thread right now.

This is derailment of the highest order.

I'm not saying for one moment that it's deliberate but it's very, very annoying.

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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

All-Seeing Eye:

“An important symbol of the Supreme Being, borrowed by the Freemasons from the nations of antiquity. Both the Hebrews and the Egyptians appear to have derived its use from that natural inclination of figurative minds to select an organ as the symbol of the function which it is intended peculiarly to discharge. Thus, the foot was often adopted as the symbol of swiftness, the arm of strength, and the hand of fidelity.''

Albert Mackey, MD, in his Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and its Kindred Sciences

But I am talking about the eye of providence.

 

Used by Christians before the all seeing eye.

 

And put on the great seal before the Masons started using the all seeing eye.

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32 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

hahaha I knew deBlasio was a liberal lunatic like his west coast colleagues, but get a load of this clip I just found of him! lol

 

you just know that when de blasio went in through that door and it closed behind him he will have ripped that mask off and then laughed it up with his marxist/satanic aides

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