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2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

yup and the funny thing is that the people they are against (ie us) aren't even nazis!

 

I'm sure as hell not a collectivist. I'm not a nazi or a communist

 

BUT they actually ARE satanists

 

If they were honest that sign would say 'satanists against freedom loving humans'

It is even more ironic when you realize that Antifa are the Nazis.

 

The Nazis never went away. It is the same agenda.

 

Karl Marx dedicated poems to Satan.

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3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

there is a psychological experiment where they have a row of people but the person at the end of the row doesn't know that they are the only true subject and that all the other people are actors

 

The row of people are asked one at a time about the length of lines on a board. Each person before the true subject will lie about the length of the lines for example by saying that two lines are the same length when in fact one is longer than the other. They found that many times the true subject would simply repeat what everyone else was saying even though it defied their own eyes

 

But the freaky thing about it is that the subject didn't just lie to 'fit in', they often came to actually PERCEIVE the lines to be what the others said they were

 

This means that people can be manipulated through social pressure to BEND their perception of reality. This is why the media is now ramping up the rhetoric against the unjabbed so that they will turn the jabbed masses against them who will actually being to PERCEIVE the unjabbed to be a threat even when logic and scientific evidence would contradict that

 

Scary shit.....we are literally going to be facing mind controlled hordes soon who are all under a form of HYPNOSIS

 

I think this is happening right in this forum.

The government has been able to bulldose everything they wanted regardless of how ridiculous the story may be and how illegal it may be. I keep on saying you lot need to wake up.

 

When is it going to stop? Oh when the masses wake up and join us. So it's up to them that our lives rely on.

mnn yeah.

 

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2 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

They're right. There is a spiritual battle underway.

 

It is being fought externally in the way we are interacting and internally by ourselves individually in our choices.

 

If we individually, internally fight and win then the external will follow. When you have resolved inner conflicts you will no longer desire external.

 

Agree. If you've already done it with your life e.g. problems etc then you know this is the way.

Outer changes magically by YOU shifting.

Take a victim, this victim decides that no more and switch position from victim to one of preditor......

It changes 180 degrees.

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

i hear a lot of people blaming 'capitalism' but do we actually have capitalism? If we had free markets then the banks would have not been bailed out by the corrupt governments using tax payers money and they would all have had to fail (as bad businesses should)

 

what we actually have is a COMMAND AND CONTROL economy run through central banks in all the different countries who in turn are all coordinated through the bank for international settlements in basel, switzerland

 

That command and control economy was termed 'corporate socialism' by professor sutton and its been called 'cartelism' by david icke

 

you could maybe call it 'state-capitalism' but i think the previous two terms are more correct because they capture the spirit in which it is being done which is the monopolisation of power with a view to centralising control globally into the hands of the cabal

One hundred percent!

 

The term capitalism was derived by Karl Marx to explain an economic system that he did not understand. He based the term on his utterly discredited 'Labor Theory of Value'.

 

The two competing brands of Socialism were Marx and Engel's Communism and Fascism. The only difference being that under Communism the government controls the factors of production and under Fascism government and corporations control the factors of production.

 

In Nazi Fascism the government controlled the corporations. In modern Fascism the corporations control the government.

 

We are in Fascism. But call it corporatism, cartelism or whatever you want.

 

It's not only bailouts but also all the barriers to entry stopping small businesses from competing.

 

During the idiotic lockdowns it was big businesses that were allowed to remain open while the family run businesses had to shut their doors.

 

That is Fascism.

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On 12/9/2021 at 6:27 PM, Macnamara said:

JABBED? or something else?

 

As the UKColumn has stated you only need to control about 7 key gatekeeper posts in scotland and you essentially have the judicial arm of government wrapped up so the recent death of the top crown prosecution officer Stephen o rourke should certainly raise some eyebrows. Normally the death of someone in such a high position at such a relatively young age would get me suspicious of foul play but these days you never know if they were jabbed...

Top Crown Office prosecutor Stephen O’Rourke found dead at Edinburgh home as cops probe sudden death

Stephen O’Rourke QC, 45, — who took on the role of principal crown counsel just three months ago — was discovered at his pad in Edinburgh yesterday. Police confirmed a probe was underway and a report will be sent to the procurator fiscal.

 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/8129943/stephen-orourke-dead-edinburgh-cops-probe/

 

Coincidences do occur, about 1% of the time. However, this is some timing, with everything going down as it is.

 

 

 

On 12/9/2021 at 6:55 PM, alexa said:

Better the Devil you know- hey? 👍

 

Something like that. Boris is a stooge, but I don't think he is a 100% stooge. However, even if he is a 100% stooge, then I still don't understand why would anyone support the masonic mass media's 'Get rid of BoJo' narrative. It would make no sense.

 

 

 

On 12/9/2021 at 6:56 PM, bobb said:

And this is to purely hide the fact that the injuries that the injected are suffering are from the injections, as those that are not injected have suffered FUK ALL from anything in the whole two years of rampaging scaryients, sort of hard to spin that into a cohesive argument that makes any sense at all!

 

This is their problem. Shamelessly telling convenient lie, after convenient lie, only ends up turning their narrative in to a giant shithouse that will eventually collapse.

 

 

 

On 12/9/2021 at 7:58 PM, wingwang said:

 

Old Smoggy was outed as a shill years ago!

 

 

 

On 12/9/2021 at 9:23 PM, Anders said:

Is there any precedent of it being a crime (for all intents and purposes) NOT to have something injected into one's body. I can't think of one.

 

In masonic circles, then quite possibly.

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3 hours ago, Saved said:

I thought it said Stalinists against Nazis, but no - it is Satanists.

 

 

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So how come they are protecting everything they say they are against, nothing strange in that whatsoever. More to the point who is putting them upto it. Nobody could be that dumb so it must be some cunning plan!

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14 hours ago, HAARPING_On said:

I'm seeing this too. We need to hold the line and hold our nerve. The desperation tactics are getting much easier to see now.

 

I really seriously am out of hope. I am not seeing this. I am not saying by the way that you are wrong, I might just be unlucky in terms of those I am surrounded by.

 

The zombies I know aren't waking up at all.  In fact, they seem to be getting more entrenched in their views.

 

There is a growing sense of impatience with me by those I know because I have not been jabbed.

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On 12/9/2021 at 11:17 PM, SoundOfSilence said:

Though the court cases I have seen to date the judges didn't care and were swooning over the Crown expert's opinions.

That is the problem with any of this. The judges are incredibly corrupt. After all, it is very unlikely the tyrants would embark on such an ambitious plan without gaining control of the courts first.

 

They start with the Supreme Court, in whatever country, then work down from there. They must have the court of last resort in their back pockets, but they don't want too many cases ending up there, as it would look bad. This is precisely why Blair replaced the House Of Lords with a Supreme Court.  Far easier to own 11 'God knows whats', than a hereditary chamber of 100's. On the face of it, it looked like a democratic move, as with U.K. devolution, but it was, in fact, exactly the opposite. 

 

 

 

23 hours ago, Made in Wales said:

This is another Liverpool football supporter who has a message for all of us not wanting to be jabbed. I'm sure we can think of an appropriate retort to put him back in his box. 

Anyway enjoy his rant... Here it is:

 

Mate you're just an egotistical maniac who thinks you're aware of things us normals aren't, a text book example of someone who falls for conspiracy. The thing is every conspiracy, no matter how insane it sounds has a shread of truth, the clever grifters at the top use this to reel in people like you who want to feel special and they reap the rewards, all you get is a sense of being more awake than other people and then you think you're in a position to talk down to them.

But pull the string just a little bit and it all falls apart, you found stuff online to confirm your bias, you start at the conclusion and work your way backwards. See you haven't the ability to do real research, proper peer reviewed unbiased research takes time, effort and a high level of understanding in the field, none of which you possess.

So stop pretending you know what a spike protein is, or how a vaccine actually works, sitting on the toilet reading Facebook posts that confirm your bias isn't research, it's jacking off your own ego. Get over yourself and get vaccinated.

 

Sounds like Jurgen going off on one to me. On a more serious note, ALL football forums will have resident shills operating on them. I used to post on quite a small lower leagues forum and I spotted one myself. 100%. This was over 10 years ago now.

 

 

 

23 hours ago, Mazthehobo said:

But what could the government do if people rejected the camp? fine them? quarantine camp? prison?

 

If our numbers are sufficient, then absolutely nothing.

 

 

 

23 hours ago, soulalways said:

Democracy is/was in the hands of the people at the ballot box. if the system has been hijacked by these tyrants. there has to be change..as i said before ..history has shown that people have to fight for it...no one is going to give it to us.

 

Democracy is in the minds of the people at the ballot box. However, while it was still a viable option for folks to use it in the U.K., in December 2019, I am unsure whether we will get another opportunity. Not just as in will we get another general election, but, if we do, how compromised it might be. And if anti-system won fair and square, then they would no doubt still not go quietly, but at least their mask would have fully slipped off by then.

 

 

 

23 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Yeah, the law's a farce. When you go back through these human rights laws there is usually a carve out for public health. Almost as if, when they were written, they knew what was coming.

 

Yes, I have noticed that, with all sorts of things to do with government. For example, they won't kill you, unless you are deemed an 'economic threat'. It's always some loose term that they fall back on, which any old tyrant can get quite creative with. And again, with Patel now wanting more powers to do with revoking citizenship. She keeps on using the term 'harm'. I am already getting deja vu, from the social media bill, which hasn't even passed yet.

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Not to turn this into a personal blog, but just an update and closure regarding the wedding I went to last week, where my girlfriend told me to take a test before (which was not required) and before meeting her father - I refused and she said, forget it. Anyway, the wedding, no one had a mask on apart from the ceremony and after that no one give a shit and was like the world was normal again. I was chatting to a guy and bought him a shot - found out later he isn't jabbed. Everything happens for a reason right?

 

Anyway, enough on that stuff.  I ca an see things getting a lot more crazy soon but I also sense people are starting to wake up. Just how I see it, going about town and little conversations here and there.  In Scotland, it looks like another lockdown is on the cards but I don't see most people I know going along with it. My mother today, who is in her 70's and consumed 24/7 by TV and FB even said she isn't sure if he would do another booster.

 

The mandatory vaccine shit will be the fork in the road. I know my position and I am sure every else here does too,and think it will be a step too far here in the UK and maybe I am being too optimistic, but I feel zero fucking fear. We will win this!

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1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said:

One hundred percent!

 

The term capitalism was derived by Karl Marx to explain an economic system that he did not understand. He based the term on his utterly discredited 'Labor Theory of Value'.

 

The two competing brands of Socialism were Marx and Engel's Communism and Fascism. The only difference being that under Communism the government controls the factors of production and under Fascism government and corporations control the factors of production.

 

In Nazi Fascism the government controlled the corporations. In modern Fascism the corporations control the government.

 

We are in Fascism. But call it corporatism, cartelism or whatever you want.

 

It's not only bailouts but also all the barriers to entry stopping small businesses from competing.

 

During the idiotic lockdowns it was big businesses that were allowed to remain open while the family run businesses had to shut their doors.

 

That is Fascism.

 

i think sutton was more correct with his term 'corporate socialism':

Who funds the riotous American left & why? The globalist billionaire class, which uses it to build corporate socialism

Michael Rectenwald

is an author of 11 books, including the most recent, Thought Criminal. He was Professor of Liberal Arts at NYU from 2008 through 2019. Follow him on Twitter @TheAntiPCProf

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Why do giant corporations and billionaires fund Black Lives Matter and Antifa, both avowed socialist groups? And why do the leftists accept their aid? They both want a kind of socialism, but only one of them could get their way.

If you’re at all familiar with the corporate and billionaire funding sources behind Black Lives Matter and Antifa and the socialist commitments of these groups and their leaders, you’ve probably wondered why the ‘capitalist class’ would support a movement whose doctrine is apparently antithetical to their own interests. Aren’t these funders capitalists after all, and don’t capitalists naturally oppose socialism?

And why do American leftists dance like marionettes attached to strings pulled by globalist billionaires? Don’t they understand that they’re actually serving the masters they claim to oppose?

The answer is not so simple as the World Socialist Website suggests: “The aims of the Black Lives Matter movement are aligned with those of Wall Street and the US government.” Nor is the answer that BLM/Antifa have merely ‘sold out’ to capitalists. Nor is the donor class making a mistake, or merely interested in racial equality. The answer is that the corporate and billionaire elites prefer a kind of socialism – namely, ‘corporate socialism’.

Corporate socialism

And what is corporate socialism? Corporate socialism is not merely government bailouts for corporations. It is a two-tiered system of ‘actually-existing socialism’ on the ground, paralleled by a set of corporate monopolies on top. (‘Actually-existing socialism’ is a pejorative term used mostly by dissidents in socialist countries to refer to what life was really like under socialism, rather than in the perfidious books of Marx and his epigones.)

Wealth for the few, ‘economic equality’ under reduced conditions for the many – corporate socialism is a form of neo-feudalism.

In Wall Street and FDR, historian Anthony C Sutton described corporate socialism, as developed in the 19thth century, and distinguished it from state socialism, as follows: “[The] robber baron schema is also, under different labels, the socialist plan. The difference between a corporate state monopoly and a socialist state monopoly is essentially only the identity of the group controlling the power structure. The essence of socialism is monopoly control by the state using hired planners and academic sponges. On the other hand, Rockefeller, Morgan, and their corporate friends aimed to acquire and control their monopoly and to maximize its profits through influence in the state political apparatus; this, while it still needs hired planners and academic sponges, is a discreet and far more subtle process than outright state ownership under socialism…We call this phenomenon of corporate legal monopoly – market control acquired by using political influence – by the name of corporate socialism.”

What Sutton calls corporate socialism might otherwise be called ‘corporate-run socialism’ or ‘socialist capitalism’.

For both state socialists and corporate socialists, the free market is the enemy. They both seek to eliminate it. The free market threatens the system of state control in the case of state socialism. In the case of corporate socialism, the free market represents an impediment to the unhampered accumulation of wealth. The corporate socialists do not mean to eliminate profit. Quite to the contrary, they mean to increase it and keep it all to themselves.

To ensure and appreciate profits to the fullest, corporate socialists seek to eliminate competition and the free market. As Sutton wrote, for the 19th-century corporate socialists: “The only sure road to the acquisition of massive wealth was monopoly: drive out your competitors, reduce competition, eliminate laissez-faire, and above all get state protection for your industry through compliant politicians and government regulation.”

The difference between state socialism and corporate-run socialism, then, is merely that a different set of monopolists are in control. Under state socialism, the monopoly is held by the state. Under corporate socialism, the monopolists are giant corporations. But both political economies are characterized by monopoly.

And both systems use socialist-communist ideology – or the recent incarnations, ‘social justice’ or ‘woke’ ideology – to advance their agendas. For corporate socialists, corporate monopoly is the desired end and socialist ideology is among the means.

Socialist ideology works to the benefit of corporate socialists because it demonizes competition and the free market in an effort to eliminate them. This explains why capitalist corporations like Amazon and mega-wealthy capitalist donors like George Soros and Tom Steyer actually fund organizations with explicitly socialist agendas, like Black Lives Matter, and why Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and other internet giants apparently favor leftist and even socialist over ‘rightwing’ content and users.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/503267-american-left-corporate-socialism/

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Are they getting ready for the arrival of the Anti-Christ to take his seat in the UN, numbered 666.

 

This demonic figure you’re looking at right now is standing guard outside the United Nations Visitors Plaza .

 

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A guardian for international peace and security sits on the Visitor’s Plaza outside UN Headquarters.

 

Right out of the book of Revelation.

 

Rev 13-2

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: Rev 13-2

 

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/united-nations-unveils-guardian-of-international-peace-security-statue-that-looks-just-like-something-from-revelation/

 

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1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said:

It is even more ironic when you realize that Antifa are the Nazis.

 

The Nazis never went away. It is the same agenda.

 

Karl Marx dedicated poems to Satan.

 

the bolsheviks had their revolution in russia THEN the nazis came to power, in germany, shortly after

 

antifa were created as a counter to the nazis but the reality is, as prof sutton proved in his books, that the same cabal was behind both the bolsheviks AND the nazis.

 

That cabal is also behind antifa and by creating a conflict between the nazis and the communists they created a hegelian dialectic of thesis v's antithesis out of which they aimed to synthesis a new society which we are seeing in the form of a technocracy which is coming in through all this covid nonsense in the form of digital ID's, vaccine passports, digital currency, social credit scores, universal basic income etc

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23 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i think sutton was more correct with his term 'corporate socialism':

Fine.

 

But we are talking about exactly the same thing.

 

Interesting that the Ten Planks of Communism provides for a central bank.

 

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

 

As we have both pointed out, the only difference between the two systems is who controls the factors of production.

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29 minutes ago, alexa said:

Are they getting ready for the arrival of the Anti-Christ to take his seat in the UN, numbered 666.

 

This demonic figure you’re looking at right now is standing guard outside the United Nations Visitors Plaza .

 

480786360_abeast.jpg.d2ab79e38a03f9d3df32af51342f3e41.jpg

 

A guardian for international peace and security sits on the Visitor’s Plaza outside UN Headquarters.

 

Right out of the book of Revelation.

 

Rev 13-2

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: Rev 13-2

 

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/united-nations-unveils-guardian-of-international-peace-security-statue-that-looks-just-like-something-from-revelation/

 

 

 Alexa that is a great find.

Revelations spot on as usual.

Thanks for posting this.

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4 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Fine.

 

But we are talking about exactly the same thing.

 

Interesting that the Ten Planks of Communism provides for a central bank.

 

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

 

As we have both pointed out, the only difference between the two systems is who controls the factors of production.

 

antifa love to throw the term 'fascist' about except they are not using it to describe the corporate elites who fund antifa

 

they are using it to insult the working people (usually but not always white) that hilary clinton called 'the deplorables'. The kind of people who still believe in individual rights, gun ownership, the constitution and christian values

 

so the term 'fascist' is i think now largely useless

 

Its far better to use the term 'corporate socialist' because this skewers both the oligarchic class that own the corporations plus the grassroots brownshirts that they fund such as antifa and BLM

 

it exposes the irony of grassroots fake leftists blaming 'capitalism' whilst at the very same time being funded and steered by the capitalist fatcats

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29 minutes ago, alexa said:

Are they getting ready for the arrival of the Anti-Christ to take his seat in the UN, numbered 666.

 

This demonic figure you’re looking at right now is standing guard outside the United Nations Visitors Plaza .

 

480786360_abeast.jpg.d2ab79e38a03f9d3df32af51342f3e41.jpg

 

A guardian for international peace and security sits on the Visitor’s Plaza outside UN Headquarters.

 

Right out of the book of Revelation.

 

Rev 13-2

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: Rev 13-2

 

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/united-nations-unveils-guardian-of-international-peace-security-statue-that-looks-just-like-something-from-revelation/

 

I saw this. I think I saw it on Gateway Pundit.

 

I think the artists are Mexican (if I recall). My immediate thought was that it could be the god Tezcatlipoca. Which is a Jaguar - Eagle combination.

 

It is associated with human sacrifice.

 

Whatever the intention of the artists. It can't be good.

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30 minutes ago, alexa said:

Are they getting ready for the arrival of the Anti-Christ to take his seat in the UN, numbered 666.

 

well it's got to be AI hasn't it because only AI will have the power to utterly control everyone under the technocracy

 

30 minutes ago, alexa said:

This demonic figure you’re looking at right now is standing guard outside the United Nations Visitors Plaza .

480786360_abeast.jpg.d2ab79e38a03f9d3df32af51342f3e41.jpg

 

A guardian for international peace and security sits on the Visitor’s Plaza outside UN Headquarters.

 

The same UN building built on land donated by the rockefeller family who are also behind bill gates and this whole covid scamdemic and ID2020

 

30 minutes ago, alexa said:

Right out of the book of Revelation.

 

Rev 13-2

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: Rev 13-2

 

hmm viewed any other way you'd have to concede that it's highly inappropriate to have any kind of charged symbol outside a building that is supposed to represent the entire planet...

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

antifa love to throw the term 'fascist' about except they are not using it to describe the corporate elites who fund antifa

 

they are using it to insult the working people (usually but not always white) that hilary clinton called 'the deplorables'. The kind of people who still believe in individual rights, gun ownership, the constitution and christian values

 

so the term 'fascist' is i think now largely useless

 

Its far better to use the term 'corporate socialist' because this skewers both the oligarchic class that own the corporations plus the grassroots brownshirts that they fund such as antifa and BLM

 

it exposes the irony of grassroots fake leftists blaming 'capitalism' whilst at the very same time being funded and steered by the capitalist fatcats

The Left have a habit of doing that. Taking a good symbol or term and inverting it.

 

To take a Fascist example, the Nazis took the Swastika, painted it black, and instead of being a sun symbol it represented the black sun - Saturn.

 

I take your point regarding language. And I largely agree with it. 

 

Though there is a danger that, by abandoning our terminology we risk losing sight of the historical and philosophical underpinnings of these concepts.

 

A loose example. As you will know, the term Fascism is derived from the Roman fasci. A wrapped bundle of sticks with an axe head. And what do we see in Congress.

 

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They really love rubbing it in our faces don't they?

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20 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

antifa love to throw the term 'fascist' about except they are not using it to describe the corporate elites who fund antifa

 

they are using it to insult the working people (usually but not always white) that hilary clinton called 'the deplorables'. The kind of people who still believe in individual rights, gun ownership, the constitution and christian values

 

so the term 'fascist' is i think now largely useless

 

Its far better to use the term 'corporate socialist' because this skewers both the oligarchic class that own the corporations plus the grassroots brownshirts that they fund such as antifa and BLM

Feck I am good, how the US as a base has spread its politics around the globe, where the far right are the bible punching middle classes and the far left are the downtrodden anti-fascist satanists socialists. All run by the corporate and political elites.

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1 minute ago, SoundOfSilence said:

A loose example. As you will know, the term Fascism is derived from the Roman fasci. A wrapped bundle of sticks with an axe head. And what do we see in Congress.

 

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They really love rubbing it in our faces don't they?

 

you can shout 'fascist' at them all day long but it won't irk them and their followers half as much as calling them 'corporate socialists'. I guarantee you

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

you can shout 'fascist' at them all day long but it won't irk them and their followers half as much as calling them 'corporate socialists'. I guarantee you

Oh, I am not interesting in having dialogue with those idiots.

 

I was thinking more in terms of having an intellectual discussion.

 

Antifa morons are either SJWs with rainbow colored hair or hardened thugs shipped in by George Soros. You can't reason with either.

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

you can shout 'fascist' at them all day long but it won't irk them and their followers half as much as calling them 'corporate socialists'. I guarantee you

 

But why is that Mac?

 

Well it's very simple: if you understand that the richest and most powerful people in the world who control all the corporations and banks are also behind what is termed these days 'the left' then the left loses all its moral high ground

 

All their abusive language falls away because by understanding that they stand on the same side of the divide as the oligarchs it means that they are also standing on the side of the bloodline families that were behind all the great crimes of history such as the world wars, the slave trade, the gulags, the concentration camps etc

 

It exposes them for what they are: the real tyrants

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