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22 minutes ago, Made in Wales said:

This is another Liverpool football supporter who has a message for all of us not wanting to be jabbed. I'm sure we can think of an appropriate retort to put him back in his box. 

Anyway enjoy his rant... Here it is:

 

Mate you're just an egotistical maniac who thinks you're aware of things us normals aren't, a text book example of someone who falls for conspiracy. The thing is every conspiracy, no matter how insane it sounds has a shread of truth, the clever grifters at the top use this to reel in people like you who want to feel special and they reap the rewards, all you get is a sense of being more awake than other people and then you think you're in a position to talk down to them.

But pull the string just a little bit and it all falls apart, you found stuff online to confirm your bias, you start at the conclusion and work your way backwards. See you haven't the ability to do real research, proper peer reviewed unbiased research takes time, effort and a high level of understanding in the field, none of which you possess.

So stop pretending you know what a spike protein is, or how a vaccine actually works, sitting on the toilet reading Facebook posts that confirm your bias isn't research, it's jacking off your own ego. Get over yourself and get vaccinated.

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yeah so what ? What's you retort ? He's a cunt and his consciousness is full of darkness. We know these people are amongst us , what's the point of posting this shit ?Also , who cares if he's a Liverpool supporter ?  You should see the wankers on the West Ham forum I'm on. It makes no difference, they walk amongst us.

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23 minutes ago, Made in Wales said:

This is another Liverpool football supporter who has a message for all of us not wanting to be jabbed. I'm sure we can think of an appropriate retort to put him back in his box. 

Anyway enjoy his rant... Here it is:

 

Mate you're just an egotistical maniac who thinks you're aware of things us normals aren't, a text book example of someone who falls for conspiracy. The thing is every conspiracy, no matter how insane it sounds has a shread of truth, the clever grifters at the top use this to reel in people like you who want to feel special and they reap the rewards, all you get is a sense of being more awake than other people and then you think you're in a position to talk down to them.

But pull the string just a little bit and it all falls apart, you found stuff online to confirm your bias, you start at the conclusion and work your way backwards. See you haven't the ability to do real research, proper peer reviewed unbiased research takes time, effort and a high level of understanding in the field, none of which you possess.

So stop pretending you know what a spike protein is, or how a vaccine actually works, sitting on the toilet reading Facebook posts that confirm your bias isn't research, it's jacking off your own ego. Get over yourself and get vaccinated.

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All I say is, who is stopping you letting big pharma jab you up to the eyeballs by a government acting as a drug dealer, nobody, typical junkie, I take it and so should you. Just say no to drugs. 

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1 minute ago, Seeker said:

There must be law against forcing proven dangerous medical procedures on people? 

Not many.

 

The country with the strongest safeguards is the United States. There have been some successful pushbacks in the circuit courts.

 

My fear is when it gets up to the Supreme Court. Trump's picks were not great. Barrett is a genocidal lunatic. She will likely side with forced inoculations.

 

English common law jurisdictions have less safeguards.

 

For example, this decision rejecting such arguments was upheld by the New South Wales Court of Appeal.

 

Kassam v Hazzard; Henry v Hazzard - NSW Caselaw 

 

Personally, I think the judge got it absolutely wrong. But what does my opinion matter.

 

I am not saying don't run the arguments. But do it properly.

 

And don't be surprised to get a corrupt judge.

 

I don't believe there is a political or judicial solution to this.

 

We are going to have to take our power back.

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24 minutes ago, Made in Wales said:

This is another Liverpool football supporter who has a message for all of us not wanting to be jabbed. I'm sure we can think of an appropriate retort to put him back in his box. 

Anyway enjoy his rant... Here it is:

 

Mate you're just an egotistical maniac who thinks you're aware of things us normals aren't, a text book example of someone who falls for conspiracy. The thing is every conspiracy, no matter how insane it sounds has a shread of truth, the clever grifters at the top use this to reel in people like you who want to feel special and they reap the rewards, all you get is a sense of being more awake than other people and then you think you're in a position to talk down to them.

But pull the string just a little bit and it all falls apart, you found stuff online to confirm your bias, you start at the conclusion and work your way backwards. See you haven't the ability to do real research, proper peer reviewed unbiased research takes time, effort and a high level of understanding in the field, none of which you possess.

So stop pretending you know what a spike protein is, or how a vaccine actually works, sitting on the toilet reading Facebook posts that confirm your bias isn't research, it's jacking off your own ego. Get over yourself and get vaccinated.

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I am sure he is aware that the term conspiracy theorist was coined by the CIA to discredit people questioning the JFK assassination.

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1 minute ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Not many.

 

The country with the strongest safeguards is the United States. There have been some successful pushbacks in the circuit courts.

 

My fear is when it gets up to the Supreme Court. Trump's picks were not great. Barrett is a genocidal lunatic. She will likely side with forced inoculations.

 

English common law jurisdictions have less safeguards.

 

For example, this decision rejecting such arguments was upheld by the New South Wales Court of Appeal.

 

Kassam v Hazzard; Henry v Hazzard - NSW Caselaw 

 

Personally, I think the judge got it absolutely wrong. But what does my opinion matter.

 

I am not saying don't run the arguments. But do it properly.

 

And don't be surprised to get a corrupt judge.

 

I don't believe there is a political or judicial solution to this.

 

We are going to have to take our power back.

The country with the strongest safeguards is the United States. ....God help us!  what a great track record they have!

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But what could the government do if people rejected the camp?

fine them?

quarantine camp?

prison?

 

iv said from day one I will take the jab once I have in writing that they can prove 100% to me that I will come of no harm because of it. If they can’t do that, then I won’t do it.

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2 minutes ago, soulalways said:

The country with the strongest safeguards is the United States. ....God help us!  what a great track record they have!

I don't believe there is a political or judicial solution to this.

 

We are going to have to take our power back.

 

i totally agree...the only solution in the end sadly will be organised resistance..what really is the alternative ?..forget the law it only exists to feed this current situation and enforce the tyrants in power..so again what is the alternative ?  i would love to know?

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1 minute ago, soulalways said:

I don't believe there is a political or judicial solution to this.

 

We are going to have to take our power back.

 

i totally agree...the only solution in the end sadly will be organised resistance..what really is the alternative ?..forget the law it only exists to feed this current situation and enforce the tyrants in power..so again what is the alternative ?  i would love to know?

I’m not sure. But if we are right, then soon, or not long after, the majority of people will either be dead or too weak to do much. 

In the movies or books you usually have a resistance group now fighting against the odds. That’s not happening right now. Protests and small pockets of unrest maybe....

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2 minutes ago, Mazthehobo said:

But what could the government do if people rejected the camp?

fine them?

quarantine camp?

prison?

 

iv said from day one I will take the jab once I have in writing that they can prove 100% to me that I will come of no harm because of it. If they can’t do that, then I won’t do it.

do you really believe ANYTHING this uk government tells you.???   SERIOUSLY ???

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12 minutes ago, soulalways said:

The country with the strongest safeguards is the United States. ....God help us!  what a great track record they have!

Oh here we go suicide mission, just don't give your consent. It is forcing them to become militant, it will be their own downfall in the end.

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1 minute ago, Mazthehobo said:

I’m not sure. But if we are right, then soon, or not long after, the majority of people will either be dead or too weak to do much. 

In the movies or books you usually have a resistance group now fighting against the odds. That’s not happening right now. Protests and small pockets of unrest maybe....

well if were going to survive this shit this to me is the only way forward INHo...this whole system now as it stands is rotten to the core so there has to be change...that never comes easy

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11 hours ago, ar55 said:

I never actually thought of it that way.

 

Maybe the elite see us as part of the grand plan for a new world population.


Get rid of all the thickos and leave the intelligent ones.

 

nah that's fantasy.

They only care about themselves.

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10 minutes ago, soulalways said:

I don't believe there is a political or judicial solution to this.

 

We are going to have to take our power back.

 

i totally agree...the only solution in the end sadly will be organised resistance..what really is the alternative ?..forget the law it only exists to feed this current situation and enforce the tyrants in power..so again what is the alternative ?  i would love to know?

Yeah, the law's a farce.

 

When you go back through these human rights laws there is usually a carve out for public health. Almost as if, when they were written, they knew what was coming.

 

Then you're left arguing that the government can't prove there is a pandemic (which they can't) and given the risk of death from the Kung Flu is less than a common cold the government's response is not proportional to the risk.

 

Of course the Crown will just engage an expert witness prepared to lie on the stand and claim how wonderful and safe all these poisonous clot shots are.

 

Either through corruption or stupidity, perhaps a combination of the two, the judge will side with the Crown's expert and say how compelling they are.

 

My suggestion for anyone embarking on the course would be to try and line up some of the doctors and experts who have come out against this. Say Francis Boyle, Carrie Medaj, Lee Merritt etc. and see if they would give their time to testify by video link. Try and get multiple parties to make it class action - or similar.

 

Try for a jury. Not always available.

 

Then try and get as much media attention as you can. Stir up a bit of controversy so the press is interested.

 

Then make the entire trial about the vaccines. Highlight they are experimental. Highlight all the deaths. Highlight the massive coverup in the industry when they ignored the huge number of industries.

 

Make a huge issue about a virus having never been isolated. Subpoena the Minister declaring a pandemic. 

 

"If a virus has never been isolated and shown to exist how do you know SARS-COV2 is responsible for the Kung Flu?"

 

"On what information did you base your decision to declare a pandemic?"

 

Make it all about them.

 

Embarrass them.

 

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1 minute ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Yeah, the law's a farce.

 

When you go back through these human rights laws there is usually a carve out for public health. Almost as if, when they were written, they knew what was coming.

 

Then you're left arguing that the government can't prove there is a pandemic (which they can't) and given the risk of death from the Kung Flu is less than a common cold the government's response is not proportional to the risk.

 

Of course the Crown will just engage an expert witness prepared to lie on the stand and claim how wonderful and safe all these poisonous clot shots are.

 

Either through corruption or stupidity, perhaps a combination of the two, the judge will side with the Crown's expert and say how compelling they are.

 

My suggestion for anyone embarking on the course would be to try and line up some of the doctors and experts who have come out against this. Say Francis Boyle, Carrie Medaj, Lee Merritt etc. and see if they would give their time to testify by video link. Try and get multiple parties to make it class action - or similar.

 

Try for a jury. Not always available.

 

Then try and get as much media attention as you can. Stir up a bit of controversy so the press is interested.

 

Then make the entire trial about the vaccines. Highlight they are experimental. Highlight all the deaths. Highlight the massive coverup in the industry when they ignored the huge number of industries.

 

Make a huge issue about a virus having never been isolated. Subpoena the Minister declaring a pandemic. 

 

"If a virus has never been isolated and shown to exist how do you know SARS-COV2 is responsible for the Kung Flu?"

 

"On what information did you base your decision to declare a pandemic?"

 

Make it all about them.

 

Embarrass them.

 

i get your point but you say this.....Then try and get as much media attention as you can. Stir up a bit of controversy so the press is interested......lol!   now thats never going to happen is it ?   THE MEDIA ARE DOING WHAT THEIR TOLD...no freedom of expression anymore...no decent journalist will EVER get an opposing view printed...freedom of speech in the press has been silenced.

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9 hours ago, pete675 said:

 

I guess they are suggesting this to encourage the waivers to get their first dose of Dr Bill's Miracle Serum.

 

But compulsion is illegal both under Common Law and the Nuremberg Code.

 

Remember the first rule of the army - never volunteer for anything - especially the vax!

 

Someone bright has printed a black n white simple message that read "CONSENT CANNOT BE MANDATED". Spot on!

No funny images etc....it might be from white rose but well done.

 

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22 minutes ago, Sidlittle said:

yeah so what ? What's you retort ? He's a cunt and his consciousness is full of darkness. We know these people are amongst us , what's the point of posting this shit ?Also , who cares if he's a Liverpool supporter ?  You should see the wankers on the West Ham forum I'm on. It makes no difference, they walk amongst us.

The fact he was another Liverpool fan probably isn't important but on this particular topic a couple of the most vocally resistant to people pointing out all the red flags about being jabbed were Liverpool fans that's all... it just amused me. 

 

So you also ask me what is my retort after yours which yes it is apt but I was really looking for a little bit more than just calling him a cunt and then I hoped that would help me come up with something myself and was the purpose of me posting what I did because it is my view that by using  intellect you can outwit these sheep and imbeciles and close down their arguments like they try to close down yours. 

 

So here is my reply:

 

Has everybody read Professor Norman Fenton of St. Mary's University of London's latest findings regarding the efficacy of the covid 19 vaccine? If not I recommend people do so as it is very important people understand how scientific data and subsequently the public can be so easily manipulated. 

 

There are obviously a lot of strong views being expressed on this topic and I suspect many trust the science and take their advice accordingly which seems perfectly logical and an intelligent way to gage what is the safest solution to preserving peoples health and mortality in what have been very difficult times the last couple of years. 


We are not all virologists epidemiologists doctors, specialists and so on and so we rely on these experts to guide us and expect them to know what they are talking about and we then trust their scientific findings and don't feel the urge to question their expertise.


That is the way it all makes sense and we can all get our head around it and deal with are own life and experiences. 


However when a fly is dropped into the ointment of our logic by way of a conspiracy or opposing view that dismantles everything we have ever believed in, many can not filter that or reconcile that information without it undermining their own intelligence or ego and so must bat this opposing view away as quickly as possible without actually considering for a second that the opposing view is what Science is all about and should be embraced and not dismissed so easily. 


However when all opposing views are dismissed discredited or censored by government instruction or media influence then Science has failed and a dictatorship has been created. 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, soulalways said:

i get your point but you say this.....Then try and get as much media attention as you can. Stir up a bit of controversy so the press is interested......lol!   now thats never going to happen is it ?   THE MEDIA ARE DOING WHAT THEIR TOLD...no freedom of expression anymore...no decent journalist will EVER get an opposing view printed...freedom of speech in the press has been silenced.

I completely agree.

 

That is why you have to be strategic.

 

Offer the media some bait. Come across as someone that they can easily discredit and mock. That is one thing Trump did very well.

 

He would put out a talking point and media would jump all over it to ridicule him. Once the public interest was up then he would come out with the facts proving his point.

 

By way of a very crude example, initially come across as a lunatic antivaxxer with a poor case.

 

Then when public interest is high enough switch to a compelling case supported by evidence.

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