Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Made in Wales]

Below I have posted an exchange of views on a UK football forum (Not JA606) about complying with the latest covid measures at football stadiums whereby supporters have to show a vaccine pass or a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. 

 

The last comment is by a Liverpool supporter and is a fine example of cognitive dissonance as they desperately try to close down any critical thinkers with a tired and weak reasoning that the whole world would have to be in on any orchestrated fraud and they would not be able to stop whistleblowers coming forward which according to this person there haven't been any so he finishes with, "You're an idiot" 

which clearly is a self projected description of himself. 

 

Just wondering what you would recommend in way of a reply to this individual. 

 

how did vaccines come to get so disrespected.
i wonder if there was so much opposition when polio was running rapid.
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When they said you only needed 2, now it's a contination of a mask, passport and a booster loyalty card.

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.....for the rest of our lives, our children's lives, their childrens etc etc lives for a disease so deadly that the elite have ignored it from Day 1.
Go figure.

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Would love to know what these genius politicians are getting out of this complete and utter cluster feck?
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Control. Data is the new oil, it's as simple as that.
Control over your finances, your property, what you spend, where you go, who you meet, what you buy, what you say, what you post etc etc etc.

You're sleep-walking into a clusterf-ck of control.

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Yep. And every government from China to the UK, New Zealand to Russia are all on the same page and there isn't a single whistle blower in sight despite the thousands who would need to be across this in order for it to be played out as you're insinuating.

You're an idiot.
 

[Looney tune]

1 hour ago, owen said:

Well today my cousin and best friend breaks to me that hes now double jabbed thru family coercion. His Mam was diagnosed with cancer (since passed) last month. His sister (nurse ) told him he wouldnt be allow to see his Mam in her final weeks unless he got the jab. Unreal the stupidity of the woman. Hes a vulnerable guy anyway to be honest and now hes distraught over this. We already had a suicide in the family just months ago. If anyone can pass on any links that can help mitigate the effects of the jab, supplements etc that would be great. I told him theres probably a decent chance that he got the saline version, who knows

Why wasn't he complaining to you the first time round? If he is that disturbed the second time round why didn't he learn after the first. Fool me once shame on them, fool me twice shame on me. Tell him he is a sheep and pray for mercy. Next your be saying someone else died and he got a booster but is now at wits end. The cycle of people. I guarantee it will only be the people that have been awake against the rest. You will not convert those who have gone down the jabbed route as there pride will not allow it. They will only realise when there about to meet there maker. Every time there's a death there will be a excuse for it. Only when it's themselves will they realise. To be honest stuff them, we're in this scenario because people are getting jabbed and going along with the sharade, they will have us in camps so no sympathy if you open up your sleave. Get comfortable with deaths of relatives and being shunned by the family and so called friends, but don't make excuses for them.

[Anders]

20 minutes ago, Saved said:

I assumed that this was a cleverly dubbed piss take - went to YouTube, double checked the official lyrics and yes this is real. Looks like YouTube picked the right time to disable dislikes and I think we are going to see a LOT more shit like this now that they have.

 

Just a Bunch of wankers !

[bamboozooka]

bojo has another child. 

july 31 she announces pregnancy. thats normally 12 weeks.

27 weeks from july 31 = 5 feb 2022

 

the maths is not adding up.

[SoundOfSilence]

9 minutes ago, Made in Wales said:

Below I have posted an exchange of views on a UK football forum (Not JA606) about complying with the latest covid measures at football stadiums whereby supporters have to show a vaccine pass or a negative lateral flow test to gain entry. 

 

The last comment is by a Liverpool supporter and is a fine example of cognitive dissonance as they desperately try to close down any critical thinkers with a tired and weak reasoning that the whole world would have to be in on any orchestrated fraud and they would not be able to stop whistleblowers coming forward which according to this person there haven't been any so he finishes with, "You're an idiot" 

which clearly is a self projected description of himself. 

 

Just wondering what you would recommend in way of a reply to this individual. 

 

how did vaccines come to get so disrespected.
i wonder if there was so much opposition when polio was running rapid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

When they said you only needed 2, now it's a contination of a mask, passport and a booster loyalty card.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
.....for the rest of our lives, our children's lives, their childrens etc etc lives for a disease so deadly that the elite have ignored it from Day 1.
Go figure.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Would love to know what these genius politicians are getting out of this complete and utter cluster feck?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Control. Data is the new oil, it's as simple as that.
Control over your finances, your property, what you spend, where you go, who you meet, what you buy, what you say, what you post etc etc etc.

You're sleep-walking into a clusterf-ck of control.

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Yep. And every government from China to the UK, New Zealand to Russia are all on the same page and there isn't a single whistle blower in sight despite the thousands who would need to be across this in order for it to be played out as you're insinuating.

You're an idiot.
 

Not suggesting this as a response, but a couple of observations.

 

First, not every person does need to be in on it. Take the Manhattan Project. There were hundreds of thousands of people all working on that. None of which had any idea of the end goal.

 

They managed to keep that quiet in an environment with a frenzy of spying and large inducements to get the information out.

 

We live in an environment of mass censorship and media manipulation.

 

Second, the reason he hasn't seen any whistleblowers is because they have been censored. Examples include doctors who have been censored, fired or worse. But there have been many.

[Sheepy]

So dear friends at the nudge unit kiss my backside, you don't have a leg to stand on. 

[Fluke]

37 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

I managed to watch 27 seconds.....anyone do better?

Auto-tune overload.

You did better than me i got 15 seconds. Starting to agree with the christians more and more these things are demonic entities. Its really creepy. Got some weird perverted fetish over vaccines. Wonder how much they are getting paid and who by. Big pharma? All in cahoots

[Anti Facts Sir]

37 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

bojo has another child. 

july 31 she announces pregnancy. thats normally 12 weeks.

27 weeks from july 31 = 5 feb 2022

 

the maths is not adding up.

 

It didn't add up the first time either. Total fake.

[Sheepy]

Mandatory Covid vaccines ‘unethical’ and ‘impractical’, says Sajid Javid (msn.com)

LOL don't even think we will be having you lot think that you can just remove the Nuremberg Code. On one of your whims, either or all hell will really be let loose, I kid you not.

[alexa]

1 hour ago, Saved said:

Was about to say the same thing as I play catch-up on the last four hours. Many will take the bait, though - whether that be great temporary rewards for doing as they command or the taking away of all that a person has for disobeying.

 

There are many who will loose their souls & give in especially when they are starving, but endure to the end & prepare for this as we are all mean't to be here for this time.

 We must stick together and look after one another.

 

 

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[SoundOfSilence]

12 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

Mandatory Covid vaccines ‘unethical’ and ‘impractical’, says Sajid Javid (msn.com)

LOL don't even think we will be having you lot think that you can just remove the Nuremberg Code. On one of your whims, either or all hell will really be let loose, I kid you not.

As far as I am aware, the Nuremberg Code does not apply in England. 

 

For a treaty to apply to a country it needs to be ratified and adopted into law.

 

The main rights in England and Wales are set out in the Human Rights Act.

 

Human Rights Act 1998 (legislation.gov.uk) 

 

The rights I would base a challenge on would be the right to life - quite a high bar as you would need to prove the government is trying to, and would likely, end your life.

 

Prohibition of torture. Again quite a high bar.

 

The other rights will have carve outs for the prevention of an infectious disease etc.

 

Of course it is for the government to prove that there is an infectious disease and that its response was proportional. As we know, there is no way that can be demonstrated.

 

Though the court cases I have seen to date the judges didn't care and were swooning over the Crown expert's opinions.

 

That is the problem with any of this. The judges are incredibly corrupt.

 

After all, it is very unlikely the tyrants would embark on such an ambitious plan without gaining control of the courts first.

[andy1033]

There is virtually no human rights in uk, especially for white people.

 

What the uk gov did to my life, shows they do not care about rights of people born in there country.

 

Those laws are just for show, and always have been.

[alexa]

1 hour ago, bamboozooka said:

bojo has another child. 

july 31 she announces pregnancy. thats normally 12 weeks.

27 weeks from july 31 = 5 feb 2022

 

the maths is not adding up.

 

Show me a photo of his first kid. do they honestly think we are going to fall for this again ?

[Sheepy]

Nuremberg tribunal: UK statement - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

The UK were one of the main signatories. 

14 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

As far as I am aware, the Nuremberg Code does not apply in England.

 

[SoundOfSilence]

Just now, Sheepy said:

Nuremberg tribunal: UK statement - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

The UK were one of the main signatories. 

 

That link does not appear to evidence what you claim.

 

A treaty needs to be ratified and enacted into law for it to apply.

 

Blackburn v Attorney-General [1971] 2 All ER 1380 Lord Denning stated that "we take no notice of treaties until they are embodied in laws enacted by Parliament, and then only to the extent that Parliament tells us".

[Sheepy]

Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

That link does not appear to evidence what you claim.

 

A treaty needs to be ratified and enacted into law for it to apply.

 

Blackburn v Attorney-General [1971] 2 All ER 1380 Lord Denning stated that "we take no notice of treaties until they are embodied in laws enacted by Parliament, and then only to the extent that Parliament tells us".

Well I do apologise I am sure, but it does apply in the UK as Great Britain, France, the US and at the time the USSR all signed.

[webtrekker]

1 hour ago, bamboozooka said:

bojo has another child. 

july 31 she announces pregnancy. thats normally 12 weeks.

27 weeks from july 31 = 5 feb 2022

 

the maths is not adding up.

 

Interesting, but I'd have to check the gestation period of lizards to be able to comment further. 

 

 

 

[soulalways]

45 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

As far as I am aware, the Nuremberg Code does not apply in England. 

 

For a treaty to apply to a country it needs to be ratified and adopted into law.

 

The main rights in England and Wales are set out in the Human Rights Act.

 

Human Rights Act 1998 (legislation.gov.uk) 

 

The rights I would base a challenge on would be the right to life - quite a high bar as you would need to prove the government is trying to, and would likely, end your life.

 

Prohibition of torture. Again quite a high bar.

 

The other rights will have carve outs for the prevention of an infectious disease etc.

 

Of course it is for the government to prove that there is an infectious disease and that its response was proportional. As we know, there is no way that can be demonstrated.

 

Though the court cases I have seen to date the judges didn't care and were swooning over the Crown expert's opinions.

 

That is the problem with any of this. The judges are incredibly corrupt.

 

After all, it is very unlikely the tyrants would embark on such an ambitious plan without gaining control of the courts first.

dont kid yourself..the mandatory jabs will happen in uk...the clue is in whatever these twats say look for the opposite meaning...they are all lying slaves of the cult

[SoundOfSilence]

If anyone is considering arguing the Nuremberg Code please be aware of the following:

 

"The Nuremberg Military Tribunal’s decision in the case of the United States v Karl Brandt et al. includes what is now called the Nuremberg Code, a ten point statement delimiting permissible medical experimentation on human subjects."

 

https://research.unc.edu/human-research-ethics/resources/ccm3_019064/ 

 

It is not a treaty and it is not the law of most countries in the world. At the time it was a code for medical ethics.

 

It applies in the United States because in 1914 the New York court of appeal established the right to informed consent to medical intervention in a case involving non-consensual surgery: Schloendorff v. Society of New York Hospital 105 N.E. 92, 93 N.Y. (1914).

 

The first US Supreme Court decision in which the Nuremberg Code was invoked was in 1987.  The plaintiff was a Sergeant in the US Army who sought compensation — having been a victim in a covert CIA-sponsored, LSD mind-control experiment. US v. Stanley, 483 YS 669 (1987).

 

The Nuremberg Code has been applied in subsequent cases in the United States. But it is through the development of legal principles under the United States' constitutional safeguards preceding the formulation of the Code.

 

In other jurisdictions it may be persuasive if that jurisdiction has enacted legislation where the Code may have interpretative weight.

 

For example, In Queensland, Australia under the Human Rights Act section 17(c) provides as follows:

 

"A person must not be subjected to medical or scientific experimentation or treatment without the person’s full, free and informed consent."

 

In such cases the Nuremberg Code would be a useful interpretative aid in determining what amounts to full, free and informed consent.

 

In most jurisdictions the only way one is going to argue this is to attach it to a current law and interpret that law in light of the code.

[SoundOfSilence]

4 minutes ago, soulalways said:

dont kid yourself..the mandatory jabs will happen in uk...the clue is in whatever these twats say look for the opposite meaning...they are all lying slaves of the cult

That is essentially what my post is saying.

 

There is very little in law to prevent it.

 

Even if there were it would be ignored.

[Seeker]

8 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

That is essentially what my post is saying.

 

There is very little in law to prevent it.

 

Even if there were it would be ignored.

There must be law against forcing proven dangerous medical procedures on people? 

[Sheepy]

But I don't care what you think we are not some beaten down people, we are populists and will let democracy do our talking and if that fails because they ignore the Nuremberg code, then we will use other methods to exercise our democratic rights. If they want to act as Nazis, simple we will treat them as such. We don't just sit around here going we are all doomed. But then you said the UK isn't signed upto the Nuremberg code, but it is.

[Made in Wales]

This is another Liverpool football supporter who has a message for all of us not wanting to be jabbed. I'm sure we can think of an appropriate retort to put him back in his box. 

Anyway enjoy his rant... Here it is:

 

Mate you're just an egotistical maniac who thinks you're aware of things us normals aren't, a text book example of someone who falls for conspiracy. The thing is every conspiracy, no matter how insane it sounds has a shread of truth, the clever grifters at the top use this to reel in people like you who want to feel special and they reap the rewards, all you get is a sense of being more awake than other people and then you think you're in a position to talk down to them.

But pull the string just a little bit and it all falls apart, you found stuff online to confirm your bias, you start at the conclusion and work your way backwards. See you haven't the ability to do real research, proper peer reviewed unbiased research takes time, effort and a high level of understanding in the field, none of which you possess.

So stop pretending you know what a spike protein is, or how a vaccine actually works, sitting on the toilet reading Facebook posts that confirm your bias isn't research, it's jacking off your own ego. Get over yourself and get vaccinated.

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