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The big problem facing the criminal scum was how to convince the vaxxed that the clot shots no longer work while at the same time convincing the unvaxxed that the clot shots work.

 

Of course a nice new dangerous monster Kung Flu mutation that has sprung up out of somewhere scary and remote fits the bill nicely. 

 

What a surprising coincidence that exactly that has occurred in Botswana.

 

And I do congratulate government on the speed with which its virologists were able to track down and identify the infection rate and lethality of this mega Kung Flu variant after only a handful of cases.

 

Remarkable work!

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1 hour ago, SoundOfSilence said:

When the named this new variant I think they more had in mind:

 

Oh My Cron!

 

AKA Cronus, the Greek equivalent of the Roman god Saturn. Often symbolized as the grim reaper.

Good call, AKA Satan, the failed Son/Sun, think electric universe.

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3 minutes ago, bobb said:

Good call, AKA Satan, the failed Son/Sun, think electric universe.

As most posters will know, it is the symbolism behind the old Soviet flag.

 

The sickle representing Saturn and the hammer representing reshaping the world in his image.

 

The same symbolism is seen behind the Fabian Society.

 

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29 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

Whitty now says the Botswana strain is less of a threat than Delta...

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/26/new-covid-variant-less-worrying-delta-says-prof-chris-whitty/

 

Is he making enemies here?

Whitty has just said 'he is worried how the public would react to new restrictions' Translation means the scumbags are going to pull simular stunts as last christmas.

Something interesting here, Icke and many others have stated that the 'virus' has not been isolated anywhere in the world

The claims of this 'latest varient in africa, the african doctors, state that they have 'seen' it by sequencing the geno pool.

I was quizing a consultant in my local hospital recently and he claimed this is how they spotted the 'virus' when i challenged him. So whats going on is there any truth in this. Or is it total bullshit?

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5 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I too am highly skeptical of the germ theory of viruses.

 

But what we are really debating is the delivery system.

 

As you know, a virus is genetic material in a protein coat. And yes, there is no evidence of infection from one person to another. For any virus.

 

It may well be that viruses are an exfection, rather than an infection. That is the genetic material in a protein is merely toxins expressed by the cells.

 

However, a bioweapon can also cause the body to expel genetic material in a protein shell. And a bioweapon can be delivered by drone. Say using nanoparticles to penetrate the skin and deliver the toxin. Or the same substance can be smeared onto a bannister in a public space - say a shopping mall.

 

So I don't doubt that in isolated places people are getting sick. Such as Italy and New York at the start of the Kung Flu hoax where a bioweapon may have been delivered.

 

Before all this began the ex royal navy microwaves expert barrier trower was saying that he had been warned by a whistleblower that microwaves can be used to trigger dormant viruses so when this whole covid thing kicked off i started to think ''ok here we go the 5G is coming online and they are using it to trigger viruses that have maybe already been pre-seeded for example through chemtrailing''

 

I'm still open to that as a possibility but the all cause mortality for 2020 was not disturbing. The all cause mortality for 2021 i think is going to be bad and i expect 2022 to be even worse because of all the people who have been jabbed

 

re germ theory v's terrain theory i think that if you live as if terrain theory is true then it will actually promote good health. There is that meme going around of two fish tanks representing the two schools of thought . The water in the tanks is dirty and the voice bubble for one tank says 'i should give the fish antibiotics to help it fight infection' and the speech bubble for the other tank says 'i should change the water in the tank so that that its clean'

 

So regardless of which school is scientifically correct i think that if you do live your life trying to minimise exposure to environmental toxins it will be good for you. Prevention is better than cure and all that. We want to keep the water clean, literally and metaphorically

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2 hours ago, Alf Hooker said:

This guy should be shot in the face

 

careful alf we don't want the forum to be accused of promoting violence do we?

 

perhaps what you mean to say is that he needs to be placed on trial for crimes against humanity?

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17 hours ago, Mr H said:

Excuse my language but fk me.

 

The docs wanna strike cos they have to do face to face appointments.....  Wtf..

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/25/gps-in-england-vote-in-favour-of-industrial-action

 

In response to that welcome news, the best quote ever:

 

When we were students, a professor of public health once told us that the death rate declined whenever or wherever doctors went on strike. This was an even stronger argument, he implied, than the purely ethical one against doctors resorting to such action, or inaction. No profession should lightly expose its uselessness to the public gaze.

 

from Second Opinion by Dr Theodore Dalrymple

 

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1 hour ago, Gurualvin said:

Whitty has just said 'he is worried how the public would react to new restrictions' Translation means the scumbags are going to pull simular stunts as last christmas.

Something interesting here, Icke and many others have stated that the 'virus' has not been isolated anywhere in the world

The claims of this 'latest varient in africa, the african doctors, state that they have 'seen' it by sequencing the geno pool.

I was quizing a consultant in my local hospital recently and he claimed this is how they spotted the 'virus' when i challenged him. So whats going on is there any truth in this. Or is it total bullshit?

My understanding, and I am not in any way qualified, is that when they refer to sequencing they are talking about identifying the virus by matching genetic code.

 

The traditional method would be to apply Koch's postulates which is to essentially isolate and purify the pathogen and then prove it causes the illness and that it is seen to cause the same illness when transmitted to another subject.

 

This has never been done for the Kung Flu. Or any virus for that matter.

 

I think there are about 140 FOI requests around the world where governments have admitted that the Kung Flu virus has never been isolated.

 

Instead, the test looks a for a partial sequence of genetic code. The obvious question is where do you get the code from in the first place if you haven't isolated the virus?

 

You don't. It is just a computer algorithm. 

 

One of the stunts that has been pulled. I think it was with the Delta variant. The stunt was to start the sequence in a different place. So if my virus is CATTAGTAGCAT by starting the sequence in a different place I can claim it is a new variant.

 

For example, if I start my sequence three letters further in I get TAGTAGCATCAT. The sequences are identical but look different because the sequencing was started in a different place. So I now have my Delta variant. Even though the genomes are identical.

 

Of course we are talking about far longer genetic sequences and very specialized equipment to reveal the scam.

 

I think it was Dr David Martin who discovered this. But don't quote me.

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51 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

My understanding, and I am not in any way qualified, is that when they refer to sequencing they are talking about identifying the virus by matching genetic code.

 

The traditional method would be to apply Koch's postulates which is to essentially isolate and purify the pathogen and then prove it causes the illness and that it is seen to cause the same illness when transmitted to another subject.

 

This has never been done for the Kung Flu. Or any virus for that matter.

 

I think there are about 140 FOI requests around the world where governments have admitted that the Kung Flu virus has never been isolated.

 

Instead, the test looks a for a partial sequence of genetic code. The obvious question is where do you get the code from in the first place if you haven't isolated the virus?

 

You don't. It is just a computer algorithm. 

 

One of the stunts that has been pulled. I think it was with the Delta variant. The stunt was to start the sequence in a different place. So if my virus is CATTAGTAGCAT by starting the sequence in a different place I can claim it is a new variant.

 

For example, if I start my sequence three letters further in I get TAGTAGCATCAT. The sequences are identical but look different because the sequencing was started in a different place. So I now have my Delta variant. Even though the genomes are identical.

 

Of course we are talking about far longer genetic sequences and very specialized equipment to reveal the scam.

 

I think it was Dr David Martin who discovered this. But don't quote me.

 

I remember back when they first released the PCR test and a study on the genetic code of the sar-cov-2, only for the gene they were looking for with the PCR test not to be in the sar-cov-2 at all. Never heard an explanation for that one, even if you accept their computers generated codes as proof of anything the test wasn't even looking for the same thing.

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29 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

I remember back when they first released the PCR test and a study on the genetic code of the sar-cov-2, only for the gene they were looking for with the PCR test not to be in the sar-cov-2 at all. Never heard an explanation for that one, even if you accept their computers generated codes as proof of anything the test wasn't even looking for the same thing.

This is only my theory.

 

But your post fits in with some of my other comments. And it is what you would expect to see if you don't have a virus but need to scare people into taking your bioweapon. The clot shot. Perhaps drone delivery and surface delivery were used to spread it early on too. 

 

Dr Lee Merritt suspects that the release of an actual bioweapon was responsible for the isolated outbreaks in NY and Italy.

 

If viruses don't exist (at least in a contagious form) then you need to fake the test. At least early on. People have to believe there is a widespread virus. The nonsense about non-symptomatic spread also fed into that narrative. So the PCR test just looked for fragments of genetic material that most people have.

 

Cycle up the test to above 35 khz and people will test positive. Cycle it back down and people will test negative.

 

Scare the public.

 

But you would still need a code to give to researchers studying your virus. I think scientists and virologists (even of the competence of the current crop) would begin to get suspicious if there is nothing for them to analyze.

 

Mike Adams was saying that he needed to buy some test equipment for his supplements. Ensure that certain pathogens weren't there, or if present, only in allowable percentages etc. He inquired about live samples to calibrate the test equipment. He was told there aren't any and that it was downloaded computer code.

 

So we are talking about an industry that is accustomed to relying on computer code and not the real thing.

 

Further you need a genetic code to develop a vaccine. Even a bioweapon masquerading as your vaccine.

 

And once you have enough people that have taken the bioweapon then you can start testing for the actual genetic code. If that is what your plan is.

 

You may recall that some time ago (late last year?) there were discussions about ditching the PCR and bringing a new test in. I'm not sure what happened with that discussion.

 

But it makes sense to do that when the PCR has been soundly condemned and you have infected enough of the public with your bioweapon for them to have the code you want to test for.

 

I suspect the lack of enthusiasm for the clot shot may have derailed that ambition somewhat. Unless another test has been deployed of which I am not aware.

 

Anyway, that is just me putting things together.

 

I could be totally wrong.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Celticdevil said:

They need to cancel Christmas at all costs why ?

Christmas is a Christian based holiday.

Christmas drives the economy in the Western world.

Christmas brings families/people together in a spirit of love and joy.

But most importantly, with Christmas come the annual airing of A Charlie Brown Christmas which features Snoopy. Snoopy is a beagle. Dr. Fauci hates beagles.

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8 hours ago, webtrekker said:

Anagram of OMICRON = MORONIC! 🤣

 

 

 

 

Full marks webtrekker ✔️

We can also get the word 'Orion' from it.

Oh I do love a game of countdown 😅

 

add a 'D' and we get the name 'Nimrod'. 

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4 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

My understanding, and I am not in any way qualified, is that when they refer to sequencing they are talking about identifying the virus by matching genetic code.

 

The traditional method would be to apply Koch's postulates which is to essentially isolate and purify the pathogen and then prove it causes the illness and that it is seen to cause the same illness when transmitted to another subject.

 

This has never been done for the Kung Flu. Or any virus for that matter.

 

I think there are about 140 FOI requests around the world where governments have admitted that the Kung Flu virus has never been isolated.

 

Instead, the test looks a for a partial sequence of genetic code. The obvious question is where do you get the code from in the first place if you haven't isolated the virus?

 

You don't. It is just a computer algorithm. 

 

One of the stunts that has been pulled. I think it was with the Delta variant. The stunt was to start the sequence in a different place. So if my virus is CATTAGTAGCAT by starting the sequence in a different place I can claim it is a new variant.

 

For example, if I start my sequence three letters further in I get TAGTAGCATCAT. The sequences are identical but look different because the sequencing was started in a different place. So I now have my Delta variant. Even though the genomes are identical.

 

Of course we are talking about far longer genetic sequences and very specialized equipment to reveal the scam.

 

I think it was Dr David Martin who discovered this. But don't quote me.

 

 

One point on sequencing is that it isn't exactly a 100% accurate science, there is a lot of statistical randomness to accommodate. 

 

Genome assembly refers to the process of putting nucleotide sequence into the correct order. Assembly is required, because sequence read lengths – at least for now – are much shorter than most genomes or even most genes.

 

As a view of the whole process, they

 take some genetic material, break it up into shorter sequences via enzymes, they then synthesise copies like in PCR, before then testing using more DNA chemistry for particular sequences. Once they have the shorter sequences, it then is like the world's biggest jigsaw puzzle.

 

The sequencing machine contains many picoliter-volume wells each containing a single bead and sequencing enzymes. Pyrosequencing uses luciferase to generate light for detection of the individual nucleotides added to the nascent DNA, and the combined data are used to generate sequence reads.

 

There is thus a lot of computational pattern matching and bayesian maths needed to solve what is a massive jigsaw. 

 

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Illumina make machines to do this, but as I understand there is a lot of synthesis needed of the nucleotides

 

https://emea.illumina.com/science/technology/next-generation-sequencing.html

 

 

Illumina compare their Next Generation Sequencing to qPCR (basically PCR) here:

https://emea.illumina.com/science/technology/next-generation-sequencing/ngs-vs-qpcr.html

 

 

They also provide an interesting quote...

 

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“It became obvious how hit-and-miss gene association studies were in identifying variants. They were more like fishing expeditions. We realized that NGS would enable us to look at much larger portions of the genome simultaneously.”

Linda S. Pescatello, PhD
Distinguished Professor of Kinesiology, University of Connecticut

 

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Back in March 2017 Anthony Patch revealed what we are going through now & the future.

In this vid Patch talks about the Vaccines & Elon Musk, 5G, CERN, A1, DNA & who the Antichrist is going to be. It's an eye opener. 

The interviewers were a bit baffled by what Patch had to say back then, but they wouldn't be today.

 

You can watch it all but @ 58: 08 is when the juicy bits begin especially the bit about Nimrods Head being stored in a Jar in the Vatican.

 

 

 

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